PLEASE Do Not Build Your Fence This Way! - Fence Pro Reacts

We're back with part 3 of our series on Home RenoVision DIY's recent fence build and boy oh boy is this one good! I can't wait to wrap up this series and see what happens next! Let's dig into it.
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[@theone3337]

This put a smile on my face. I used to be subscribed to that Jeff guy till one day he was doing duct (ventilation) work and a pro told him he was doing something wrong and it made a lot of sense. The guy was saying to put the male vent pipe towards air flow and the female against the air flow like that you get less potential for air leak. Instead of accepting his mistake and thanking the guy for info, this Jeff guy told him off, I unsuscribed on the spot. Haven’t watched any of his videos since lol. Keep up the great work.

[@neverontime]

I started to question some of the stuff his channel recommend and decided to see if anyone had a critique video on him. That's how I found your channel previously. Thank you for what you do.

[@JoeEverest]

Very welcome, appreciate you watching!

[@danielobryan8855]

So it’s funny watching this bc I did some of these exact same things, except I used a tape measure and concrete where my post don’t move when they are sneezed on. I did 500ft of privacy around my yard two years ago and only wish I had found your channel along with SWI and Mr. Fence prior to doing it. I almost hate looking at mine but I’m stuck with it….love all the info you give us!!

[@naiboz]

You need a roasting Jeff playlist 😂

[@alisonburgess345]

Hi Joe - love your videos! i've got to make a block with two holes for the gate pins to drop into at the bottom! Any advice? Have you done a video about making one of these?

[@dsulli7383]

As a home owner, on 40 acres. I make sure to do everything as good or better than the pros. The thing I can’t understand is why do people make “how to” videos about any subject if they have no clue what they are doing.

[@Chris-717]

Wow! Just him marking the post (7:30) showed how well it was in the ground. See that thing wobble? Living in Florida, no way would that hold up to even a Tropical Storm.

[@30cal760]

What would you recommend for setting post in sandy soil and high winds

[@isackhernandez3691]

Have you review 4x4 fence post anchor spike that is hammered into the dirt.

[@thomasshannon2876]

I attended a 2 year residential remodeling program where you graduate with an associate's degree. Our first year carpentry instructor (who was very talented... and demanding) described what he called a "quality triangle", where one edge was "good", another was "fast/easy", and another was "cheap". He drilled into us that you can only achieve two of those edges, not all three.

[@grpAfactory]

This applies to so many things, like building cars!

[@bigoxforexx3054]

Nothing wrong with stepping. I prefer the step look in most cases as long as they are not big steps. I like the level lines look.

[@kamac1980]

Agreed. As long as you have a few panels at the same level and step sections of 2-4 panels at a time. I prefer that look. But hey, all personal preference there. I do agree with the other commentary! Measure twice cut once.

[@kevinorr6880]

He has a fairly substantial following! I always look at people doing things better…if I can prove they are better. Suggestions for correction and improvement as you go are best.

[@txreal2]

I watched some of Jeff’s videos on various home improvement projects and I had doubts about his methods & quit watching him.

[@dj_deewayne10]

How do you feel about using OZ-Post spike to install fence post?

[@JoeEverest]

We’ve only used them once and it was a very great experience

[@JCLawn51]

I used it for a rotted off mailbox post. Was a quick and easy solution. My biggest concern is that if you don't seal off around the post, water will drip down into the end of the post and rot it from the bottom up.

[@dj_deewayne10]

I installed them and so far they have sustained a few days of wind gusts of up to 35 mph so far so good.. I used waterproofing stain before setting the post and then caulked around the base to help prevent water from running down into the post

[@frontrockfences]

Did you see how much the post moved when he marked the placement for the 2x4 😂

[@woodworkerroyer8497]

The funny thing is that he's talking about how much he's saving by using the bracing to build the fence later. He used $25 of foam per post and still claims he's saving money by using the 2x4s

[@WhiskeyPapa42]

Been looking forward to this 🤣🤣

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@CashTheRealest]

I’ve been in trades all my life. I’ve seen a handful of guys that don’t need a tape measure. Even they still use hand or forearm for reference measurements

[@j.richardrush408]

In Australia, where I've built several fences, our approach is to construct things to last for 50-80 years. That's why we have the saying: "Prepare well, do it right the first time, so you can relax with a drink that night." As a tradesman and as a person, I don't tolerate halfway craftsmanship. Taking pride in one's work is crucial. That's why we rely on string lines and measuring aids to ensure the job is done properly.

[@nigelmartin3339]

Australia has some of the worst tradies ever. Their work is shocking.

[@peterman8058]

LMAO, love the video! Perfect title for his videos by the way.

[@JoeEverest]

Thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@davekushman2363]

I’m from the same area as him, code for depth is 4 feet deep which is where our frost line is. I’ve removed and replaced multiple fences that were only 5-7 years old and already falling over because whoever built it decided 2 feet or something a handyman I came across said, as deep as your arm can reach in the hole was more than enough

[@davekushman2363]

Where we’re from it is most common to inset rails and fence boards, it looks cleaner in my opinion and has been what I’ve always seen growing up, on the face we would call a hack job

[@embracethesuck1041]

"It moved a good bit" I mean, a 4x4 does have a fair bit of deflection over a 6' span even if the base is solid.

[@JoeEverest]

Sure, they can absolutely flex. His posts moved rather than flexed.

[@eliasl4308]

Where I work virtually all fences have wood 4x4, I rarely can talk people into metal posts. The rails are in brackets between the posts. People complain when the fence follows the grade because it “isn’t straight” what they mean is level. They virtually all demand stair steps while also not wanting any gap at the bottom. To the point I have to argue that the pickets can’t touch the ground. The more I see from other states the more I think I should move.

[@chumdogmillionaire2643]

My man Joe called his belt a landmark 😂😂😂😂

[@trope5105]

the fence on my parents lot that they bought next door to their house, has got to be close to 100 years old! the house was built in 1908 that we demolished, and ide be very surprised if the fence wasnt original. its only a 4 foot fence, but its def old AF. i donno if its cedar off hand, but ya, its old, looks old, but is still sturdy and doing well.

[@headcas620]

why would you demolish a 1908 house? 😡

[@trope5105]

@@headcas620 cause no one has lived in it for 40 years and it was totally ran down, not to Mentone old homes like that are shit, there was newspapers for insulation, it wasn't worth saving

[@robturner7853]

Joe Dont stress much , take it as Comedy!!🤣

[@JoeEverest]

At this point I’m starting to question whether he actually believes this stuff or if he’s just trolling us!

[@robturner7853]

you should see him paint🤣@@JoeEverest

[@probot6]

I feel like this guy says "work smarter, not harder" a lot. Not measuring isn't smarter, it's just lazier. If you're spending the hours (or days) it takes to build a fence, why are you trying so hard to save 10 minutes. Realistically, it would probably take me less than 10 seconds per post to measure 6 inches down and make a mark. It would take me 10 seconds to measure 8 feet BEFORE I spend 10 minutes digging a post hole. Yes, it would take me a little longer to cut a mitered end on a stretcher, but i would probably make that time back with how much easier it would be to hang my pickets. And i wouldn't have to worry as much about my dogs getting out under the fence or, similarly, unwanted visitors getting in. Plus if I sold my house, i wouldn't have the buyers putting "a new fence" as a contingency after they saw the hobbled together mess i made after watching that video.

[@JoeEverest]

All great points, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@user-ce8lr3ff6v]

6 inch reveal, make a jig. no string, no tape. In some of Jeff's other videos, I've seen him do things that aren't to code here in the US. Maybe to code in hist part of Canada.

[@charliepermenter2729]

Joe I love that you tear this stuff apart. Bet this fence has already failed.

[@JoeEverest]

I can’t imagine what that fence will look like after a couple seasons!

[@HerVibesDivine]

I'm tickled bc I've come across his videos like AINT NO WAY😂😂😂

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂

[@JohnTheRevelat0r]

You know, I set my posts with gravel at the bottom and then concrete around. Then I used square rocks to level everything underneath the fence, so the lowest part of the terrain has a bit of rock showing, but at least the whole fence is one level and the bottom of the sides does not touch the ground, ever.

[@Cody_Long]

Jeff should watch some SWI Fence videos so he learn how professionals do it

[@wojtek-33]

There are a lot of things Jeff should do, like stop making videos.

[@chandracox6814]

Jeff is definitely the type of person that won't listen to reason and always thinks he's right. I feel for his wife. Yikes.

[@user-oi3su7sw5n]

​@@chandracox6814he's son hate working with him

[@celestegrey9309]

No Way do the posts last 40 or 50 years!! 😂 I can speak from experience because we have a fence in Houston tx area that has rotten posts after 7 years. We’re now using Post Master posts now and in the future.

[@NoahDevine91]

Absolutely agree Joe if it’s a DIY or newbie installing fence they should definitely use a stringline and tape measure and take out the guess work and the, looks good enough 😀and racking with the grade instead of stair stepping when you can 👍

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@jadem187111]

Professionals still use string ling to mark the rail lines not just diyers.

[@bigcws4522]

I'm glad you called him out because he was going to cost a lot of people a lot of money I didn't want to say anything I hate bashing people I know you're not you are actually being pretty cordial.

[@That74Maro]

“Makes the engine run like a top… for a couple of miles..”

[@therealpsychotrader]

I couldn't imagine ever taking advice from that hack. I put up a fence in my yard for the first time this week and with a 250' section, digging manually with a a posthole digger and rock-bar it wasnt bad. Just made sure my corner posts were done first and square to everything, ran lines and everything else was a breeze. The hell was that guy even talking about.

[@MyFenceLifePodcast]

This is GREAT 😂 Jeff, just stop building fence bro

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@theamaturepro]

How many inchmeters is in a kilomile though? Maybe in his units the specs are perfect! I think 6 inches is about a milifoot which is like a decamile in kansas or something around 12 inches for the rest of us. I took math in college so I'm pretty good with this stuff

[@JoeEverest]

😂😂😂

[@robertp4716]

Great job keeping a straight face! A person could get seasick looking at that wavy install, up and down, in and out.

[@LloydTackwell]

we all love to see you pick on jeff i meant how is this guy and expert on everything?

[@valenzuela7298]

Just did my fence today and I use the foam because I didn’t wanna wait. I wanted to have my fence up and it worked perfect level them out worked perfect as a connected. Everything else everything was solid the only thing only got about a foot and a half maybe almost 2 a 1/5foam exposure other than that it worked perfect like a professional seems like you’re hating on the guy lol 🎉🎉🎉

[@JoeEverest]

We’ve done a couple tests here on the channel, with the same brand he’s using, and neither one held up. But, in those video’s comments there were several people who had decent experience so 🤷‍♂️

[@dazzanw5067]

Thank you! I’m so sick of these YT content kuck’n dumbbmasses! Joe, you’re a good dude! I subbed! Team no BS! Cheers!

[@chunkymonkey55555]

I dont really get using foam when you could just use postcrete, Couldn't you just run a line along all the posts and mark off the positions of all the horizontals?

[@ShawwwHa]

The wind always blows against the strongest parts of a fence in canada.

[@Scott_Atlanta]

Joe and Jeff just need to get a room.

[@JoeEverest]

😂 pass

[@AntEloftheHouseofEl]

I really like some of Jeff's videos, they can be really useful. But I have to be honest, he's miles wide of the mark on so many things in this video. I'm completely self taught and even I would be going "f**k no" if I saw someone doing pretty much everything in this video! For a start, wind sheer IS real! You NEED bloody strength. I've seen the wind rip a fence to pieces and punch a picket through a car windscreen. Can you imagine what that'll do to a child's body? Secondly, that foam fix is just absolutely sh**. Might aswell set them in horse turd! That second post moved when he was marking it WITH HIS PENCIL! Come on Jeff! Don't let sponsorship compromise your own standards. I've SEEN you build far better than this!

[@mikec7373]

So glad someone is calling out Jeff for what he is - a hack. He markets himself like he's highly qualified professional but anyone who knows a thing or two about construction can see he's faking til he makes it. It's as if he watches a few youtube videos and tackles a project for first time. He's really no better than any total beginner. It pains me that he has made a career of giving bad information while truly competent people are actually out there with their hands dirty. Thanks again Joe, wish you got the views he does, you actually deserve it

[@TheMadJester159]

“Do your best and caulk the rest” is this guy in a nutshell.

[@robturner7853]

He leaves the end tags on the 2x4,s🤨

[@dyl7828]

The only fences I’ve seen last 40-50 years came from sears back in the day and those mfks are solid as a rock

[@BluePatch-pc7sx]

DONUT!!!

[@NicholasRachuna]

When the DIY guy failed to watch some DYI videos on KZbin before building his fence🤣😂

[@IndependentlyAssorted]

Why not take the time to make it perfect if it’s your own fence? A fence is a big investment either way, so just do it right the first time. I don’t shortcut any home projects.

[@huejanus5505]

A story stick would do a much more consistent job than’s his belt and eye measurement system.

[@JoeEverest]

Agreed, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@thelog86]

That post moved just by him marking it

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@JeremyB8419]

why in the world would he think a cedar post in the ground would not rot for 40-50 years?

[@nmatthew7469]

Dude, those posts rot out in five, depending on water. That foam is garbage, quick set cement if you want to build the same day.

[@finallyfriday.]

In fairness.... he's trying to make it easy for a homeowner. Not making like a pro would do it. If a homeowner can do it easy and perfect like us pros we'd be out of work.

[@finallyfriday.]

@@Feed_Bleed_Read my my how easily you get all mad and rude at complete strangers. It must be hard to be you. I bet you flip the bird to others drivers from the safety of you car.

[@stevenkushinski6674]

I don’t see how pointing out poor quality work. Is being rude or being angry. You are rude and angry and have no clue.

[@finallyfriday.]

@@stevenkushinski6674 Wow, this exchange went right over your head. Read it 10x over and contemplate what was really said. Then get back with us.

[@stevenkushinski6674]

It did not go over my head people watch diy videos to do a better job have a better out come Jeff’s channel should be removed not joes channel

[@finallyfriday.]

@@stevenkushinski6674 Uhhh.... yeah. It did. Take a nap. You're tired.

[@justinbey3426]

I guess crowning your 2x4’s up wasn’t even a consideration. Because, you know, no rhinos walking across the top of the fence..

[@sumtingwong45]

that’s what’s wrong with the our society instead of striving for perfection, we strive for mediocrity

[@blameitonben]

I don't see how you wouldn't be wasting a ton of materials if you aren't actually measuring what you're doing.

[@ericdavis1660]

So glad this guy is getting the review he deserves. The whole channel is full of bad advice.

[@JoeEverest]

Absolutely, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@mak4374]

I am a pro painter and I started watching his channel until...he started doing painting. Yeah, I thought painting was one of the things he...was not right, but it seems that wasn't the only thing...

[@dustinclary736]

This guy definitely shouldn't be telling people how to do stuff

[@billhamilton7524]

That Jeff dude is a dope ,,thats an embarrassing fence ,,and an {un} even worse tutorial

[@JoeEverest]

Thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@Angela-bl5id]

May i please send you a photo of the area ( under 4o feet ) where im wanting to build a privacy fence but the ground is unlevel. 3 slopes. Please please advise. Doing this alone.

[@akoznasovajusername]

I remember of a video where Jeff says to viewers not to use a mask while working with asbestos as your lungs will always heal.

[@texasfencing414]

This DIY is the exact reason why we , the professionals stay always busy...

[@machineofrage]

At this point I'm certain Jeff is just a master troll and doing this on purpose.

[@se1501]

Like your videos but disagree about trying to set your posts perfectly on 8 ft centers. I dont know about lumber in your area, but 8 footers here are always a touch longer and need to be cut anyway. Don't beat your brains out trying to get a perfect 8 ft. Just measure and cut your rails.

[@GhostlyDoors]

The word " Should " Is dangerous and should not be trusted haha.

[@JoeEverest]

Excellent point, thanks for watching!

[@Countryboylife228]

lol so finny

[@livelovelearn360]

That's a lot of movement on the post for only scribbling with a pencil 🤦

[@DerekTJ]

What I don't like about Jeff is his questionable H&S habits.

[@JoeEverest]

Agreed, thanks for watching and weighing in!

[@jimk5307]

Concur, in every video, his methods are about shortcuts and not quality. Just say “NO”. If he was hunting wabbits, Elmer Fudd would be better. And, remember, passing inspection doesn’t mean it looks good.

[@jaredtandle2596]

Just Canadian expectations

[@jackskelly6473]

That guy is a joke. He is always out of breath and acting like everything is so easy, yet it’s exhausting only to make a bunch of mistakes and have to fix them.

[@mr202fan121]

LOL look at that post move hahahah ya silly if your pushing at the far end of 8ft post there will be flex setting in concrete would do the same. Come on man at least be honest.

[@JoeEverest]

There certainly is a little flex when installed with concrete, but not nearly this much

[@g-man5809]

Do a pro job, or don't do it. Unless they pay for a Gustavo special.

[@jakepadgett5569]

Yea buddy we get it. You’re a professional fence builder and he’s probably a school teacher who is doing his fence on the weekend.

[@JoeEverest]

He’s a general contractor whose channel’s mission is to teach people how to self-perform home improvement projects…

[@jakepadgett5569]

@@JoeEverestmy bad. I’m new to your channel. It just randomly popped up on my KZbin feed. He’s not a good carpenter obviously but I don’t see the gain in letting everyone know he’s not any good.

[@hutch0025]

he’s not here to show you how he teaches homeowners . you have very legit points but i think your missing jeff’s message

[@MrRaptorman1975]

Pickets here have to be on the outside of the fence. Jeff is just a hack and always has been. Every single remodeling or handyman job he has done he has hacked it up at every step.

[@rynhanson]

This guy is a joke. He does fences, tile, drywall... All wrong

[@buellboy24]

I CANNOT stand this renovision guy

[@JoeEverest]

💯

[@kencovert7065]

Ive seen a few of Jeff's video's and you could dedicate an entire channel correcting the dumb stuff he does.

[@JoeEverest]

😂 you’re not kidding!

[@karyl372]

Holy cow …. by far the worst DIY and I’ve seen many of his renovation videos yikes

[@J0hnny0]

I've seen this guys videos before and agree he is a complete hack!

[@roberthoy9922]

Yeh. No!! Do not do what he does. He is a professional at shoddy. If you hire him, later you will cry. Much sooner than later.