PoE Pulling a FFXIV on Diablo 4

[@Chigeru156]

The great thing about PoE being a free-to-play game is that they've nailed the free-to-play monitization. As a new player you get to play through the whole story and even the endgame untill you feel invested enough in the game that you can justify spending money on it

[@ArmageddonEvil]

Technicality, I feel like the people who are still playing Activision's Blizzard titles are always in for a bad time. They only push metrics and not the fun kind of metrics either.

[@xstreampunk7662]

not really, me and my friends are just having fun with D4, like we tried a nightmare 21 while doing original builds and just level 60, we just pushed through that we finished a dungeon in an hour, the fun part? we mock everything, how shitty some of the mechanic feels, our builds, how weak we feel doing those, how long it took for the dungeon, and the relief that we finished at least one that day.

[@weertangel7231]

I've been play PoE for a decade(its that old already) and still enjoy most of it couse its always expanding and inproving itself, PoE 2 was originally slated to be a massive upgrade with a new campaign but apperantly it became to big(not always a bad thing) so they decided to make it a separate game entirely, while at the same time get to keep your microtransaction skins for use in both games. I really respect u are careful when it comes to microtransaction games,couse these days u have to be, though unlike Diablo Immortal wich is like the worst of the worst PoE is the safest in that regard i have ever known since they always make sure it does not affect gameplay, aside from the stash tabs. I've even read a story years ago of a guy with a gambling addiction who was recovering from it and was playing PoE but did't wanted to be tempted by their Mystery boxes(loot boxes) to have a fallback so he e-mailed them if they could help and within a day they locked his microtransaction shop so he would't get tempted and could enjoy the game. What company would do that for a player? Not Blizzard thats for sure. Regardless, i hope u enjoy both games, i myself can't wait for the beta next year(u can play the entire game in it btw) couse its gonna be great!

[@HippocritterXD]

you can buy a really cool supporter pack its between 30 - 60 - 90 euro and more you dont need and you can say you bought the game sort of

[@deceiver444]

Blizzard is just a shadow of its former self. All the main devs that made the history of the company have gone.

[@MagicManICT]

I like your take on things. I'm going to interject and say it's been Blizz's game to lose, and they're just throwing it away. I've enjoyed all the WoW expansions, but I haven't wanted to stay subbed more than a few months since WotLK. (edit: actually, I will say this is the first time since then, only because I've been holding out for the official hardcore Classic servers. I was enjoying DF enough I didn't want to leave there to play the unofficial version when I first heard about it.) I've put a lot of hours in on D3, but in the same time period, I've spent at least 4-5x as much in PoE because there's always something new, something different. I want to come back every 3-4 months to check it out, whether I fall in love with the new mechanics and storyline or not. I'm not sure whether to put Grinding Gear Games on the level of AAA developers, but they're beyond indie these days. I don't recall them discussing their budgets anywhere, but given the number of players, their development budget per year has to be 10 million USD or more (my random guess... I have nothing to infer things from).

[@seniorderpface]

If Diablo 3 is anything to go by Diablo 4 is already on it's deathbed like at this stage sure their first expansion will be underway by virtue of releasing in the first place but the fate of it's 2nd expansion would be something that would be decided just around now will it be a full fledged expansion or just a one class dlc like what happened to D3 expansion 2. Here's to hoping it's not the case and blizzard changed since Diablo 3, we all want another good game on the market after all but temper expectations.

[@MrButchBouchard]

Best Quality of D4 , is that PoE2 will lauch only next year ! D4 is a good game overall !! too repetitive, but fun ! When the season come , its just destroy all the hope I had in that game . If it was a new brand , people will be surprise by the quality of the graphic and fluidity ! but its a billions compagny that suck since 10 year!

[@cheook7029]

Season 1 was developed parallel to the main game, so it could never have been the best experience ever. Doesn't matter, many people bought the game inncluding the seasons battle pass, so Blizzard got the money. People may be complaining, leaving, burning out, ... but as long as the come back end of October and pay for the next battle pass, everything is fine from the devs perspective. Good for PoE to get some attention now, and best of luck for their second entry, but it is more healthy competition than threat to D4,

[@ADADEL1]

I do agree that games don't have to be fun because horror games exist. I don't find them fun per say but some are compelling and I force myself to finish them just to see what happens next.

[@xythiera7255]

Horror games are fun on there own way its not fun to get perma stunlocked in D4

[@MagicManICT]

Horror, in general, is a genre a person loves or doesn't--movies, games, novels, whatever other art form you can think of. I love the shock factor and the jump scares. I have family members that absolutely hate it. You do you, beau. There's lots of tastes out there, and lots of flavors to be sampled! Don't feel compelled to do something you don't like just to finish it.

[@GobbyMade21]

Horror games can be really fun if you get into them right but its definitely not for everyone

[@benja9029]

Naaah this is just de javu on what happened during D3 🤣

[@Gharon]

Nowadays Blizzard is just doing free advertisement for other, better games. Huge player influx coming to FFXIV after Shadowlands, lots of people trying out PoE for the first time (me included) after a very underwhelming Diablo 4 experience. And let's not even talk about Overwatch 1.2 🤣

[@JustAFatherlyNerd]

Not looking at you with crazy eyes, I've gotten so bored with D4 I went back to Diablo Immoral and I've played with the new class and I love it I'm actually having fun.

[@xythiera7255]

😂 Diablo Immortal are you for real that mobile pay simulator is even worse

[@xstreampunk7662]

​@@xythiera7255 for mobile standards, it's actually pretty good. a lot of people only think it's bad cause they are PC players expecting PC quality on a mobile game, either that or that or the P2W aspect of it is the issue and the game is not really that bad without it. I'm not saying it does not have issues, but most people i know who complain about it is either PC player or people who don't like P2W

[@jorgecarvajal5385]

well i play both, and they are diff game. PoE u need to know what u are doing but have the best skill custome u can have on game, diablo almsot for me is like put the brain on auto and play XD, also is not bad for poe u need put time, thats mean is not for casual, diablo u can play casual l know couse im play casual on diablo and still lvl 100 XD

[@xythiera7255]

If you are already 100 then you arnt casual at all . I alos played POE but the commitment you need is just to much its a realy good game but its mostly copy and past a build guid for most peopl

[@SoloSenS]

ur Compare is wrong coz is not about a casual or not, in diablo 4 u have 0 content after lvl 100!! helltide become useless nmd pointless the only thing u can do is kill lilith that's it ,at least in d3 there was paragons grind and leaders push , i do like d4 i hope they do something to fix the lack of endgame contents

[@GobbyMade21]

If you have no clue what youre doing in poe and trying your builds first time its still longer and more fun than diablo

[@KarmaKahn]

I'd say PoE is more brain on auto once you got your spec up and running. Diablo combat is actually more engaging. It's one of the few things it does better than PoE. GGG seems to be changing that with PoE2 though.

[@Hogscraper]

PoE2 is more than a year away. I expect Blizzard to launch new DLC, have massive sales and do a new season a week or two before it PoE2 launches which is really only going to hurt PoE2 if they do that along with any changes they make over the next entire year being any good. I'll be playing PoE2 the day it launches just like I did when the original version launched but there are millions of people out there who can easily be "bought" with the right incentives.

[@joseonwalking8666]

I'm gonna be super honest I think p o e's monetization is horrible D4 is pretty good foundational and POE is flooded with mechanics that suck the fun out of it. POE2 will do same thing

[@jujulipz1365]

LOL better than having NOTHING in the game like D4 Jesus Christ

[@joseonwalking8666]

​@@jujulipz1365 "nOtHiNG iN tHe gAmE LIkE D4" lord you people are something else the game has hundreds of hours of content in base game first season is another solid 30 hours if you take your time. That is playing through with one or two classes. People are hopeless. D4 is released in 10x better state than POE was even 5 years ago. POE was horrid to play with lag and bad optimization didn't get better until the mega expansion they released. At that point they had so much bloat mechanically it was just tedious to play.

[@killertrex]

poe 2 is just poe just like how overwatch 2 is overwatch. pretty much a clone

[@Freedom-kl8rt]

you obviously haven't watched exilecon

[@hail_2_u321]

OW2 has PvE, endgame, new mechanics? the only thing OW2 has over OW is more MTX.