Pokemon changed FOREVER when I learned about this...

[@notNajimi]

As a shiny hunter I have huge respect for RNGers. It’s a totally different skill set, whereas my hobby consists of bashing my head at a wall until it gives way :D

[@PapaJefeYT]

It actually means a lot when I get comments like this. Thank you. 🥲

[@TheRealfrkproductions]

This is the best way anyone had ever described shiny hunting 😂😂

[@Weggle]

I respect your grind a hell of a lot more😅 us RNG abusers are just the shiny lovers who lost patience

[@imablisy]

Amazing video! If anyone is willing to take up Jefes idea of trying out RNG, I always suggest starting from your favorite game in the series! Replay it with a new twist and discover something new about it to love.

[@RaphaelBobillot42]

I wanna thank both of you guys ! Your Yt channels got me into this ! Starting this journey in April, moving slowly at first, I now feel confident with it, and my gen4 dex is almost complete ! Wishing you the best :)

[@TheShinyDot]

^^ you guys thought me how to rng when I was over soft resetting I know have multiple gen 3 competitive teams but now I need someone to battle against 😂

[@pineco74]

That is what I did after watching your videos. Got addicted to it

[@TheShinyDot]

@@pineco74 legit just fun to do all round

[@Triattack007]

You are the one who introduced me to this concept!

[@alexd7589]

Honestly, RNG manipulation is just more fun in my opinion. I've been a huge shiny hunter for a long time and when I learned about RNG manipulation while desperate hunting a turtwig in platinum (months with no luck), it became a new way to approach these hunts and introduce new challenges. Hell, I even pulled out my old gameboy micro and did some repairs so that I could finally get a shiny mew in emerald (not gonna lie, I was a but teary-eyed when I got it). Thanks to RNG manipulation, I've been playing old games that hadn't seen the light of day in years.

[@POGEYMANZFTW]

RNG gave new life to how I play Pokemon, I started a few years ago and still do it to this day. I'm currently in the process of RNGing a team of competitive baby Pokemon in HGSS for use in Battle Revolution's Little Cup mode (Battle Revolution in general is a lot more fun when you can actually build and use optimal teams).

[@ayu1470]

Seeing people work on teams for the outside games is awesome, competitive baby Pokémon team just sounds so fun

[@et6408]

🔥

[@PikachuuNinja]

Omg I got chills up my spine when the battery message happened and those lights and sound effects you added because that encapsulated exactly how I felt the first time I ever saw that!! Haha, great job! Amazing video, too~

[@wesleymcdowellwm]

I really love how what was supposed to be just a simple child's game ended up having huge meta theory and can be played in so many incredibly unique ways. Thay is the true heart of pokemon. Choice.

[@92larsko]

Lol that's so corny

[@JJ_cooks]

@@92larsko who r u

[@barkumo]

Beautiful explanation. I have my shiny Arceus because of your tutorials and efforts. RNG manipulation truly is science and anyone calling it hacking is ignorant of the effort and passion that the community has put into getting legitimate shiny pokémon. Thank you for making such high quality videos on the topic.

[@grydon6422]

2 questions 1. Does this work exactly the same in every next generation game 2. Is there a way to find current save’s whole trainer ID for the manipulation or is it require a new save where a specific trainer ID is targeted?

[@hunterhawkins3032]

@@grydon6422 For the second question, there can be ways to find the whole trainer ID but it usually requires you to find a legitimate shiny and then check your game's seed or RNG status. "im a blisy" has a video detailing how to do this in Sword and Shield.

[@Ayyem93]

I literally stopped genning after learning rng manipulation in Sword. It certainly takes longer, but it's more satisfying knowing me holding my turbo button for 62 minutes is what got my square shiny rare mark Magmortar, etc

[@Ayyem93]

@@grydon6422 It really depends on the game, but sword and shield are REALLY easy depending on your target.

[@razrv3lc]

@@Ayyem93 the only time I Gen anymore is if it’s for a breeding project where I need an ability on something that is super hard/rare to get… but now that ability capsules (and whatever the HA version of the item is) exist, I don’t even need it for that haha

[@Threads_Of_Fate]

I was pretty confused when I heard a large part of the community considered RNG abuse on par with hacking. RNG is basically just using a look up table to get a Pokémon you want. It's barely any different from using an encounter table for an area, aside from being way more powerful and more difficult.

[@wapit3346]

It’s completely different from an areas encounter rates. You’re using outside programs and calculators to guarantee the rng, something you’d never be able to do without those tools. This is very similar to editing the codes by using the ar max. An unnatural manipulation to game brought on with the assistance of outside tools.

[@PapaJefeYT]

How do you think we get the encounter tables for an area? I'll give you a hint, its not by going off official guide books or in-game testing.

[@wapit3346]

@@PapaJefeYT yeah but knowing the encounter rate doesn’t guarantee you’ll find it. Btw some guide books did have the encounter rates on them.

[@Threads_Of_Fate]

@@wapit3346 And knowing what frame to hit doesn't guarantee you will hit it.

[@PapaJefeYT]

@@wapit3346 The guide books had loose encounter rates, but thanks to dataminers looking at hidden info we actually know the exact encounter slots and odds. But taken one step farther, what about IVs? There's no way in game to see your exact IVs, only Judges which give you ranges. Thankfully dataminers looked at how the Stat formula worked mathematically, and made calculators that let you plug in Pokemon stats, which is plainly visible. RNG manipulation tools are the exact same. They are calculators. You plug-in easily visible info like Pokemon stats, and the tools use the same math as the game to calculate what Pokemon come next.

[@FistingGuru]

My favourite thing about RNG manipulation is the interactive nature of it, instead of mindlessly resetting the game over and over for hours.

[@PapaJefeYT]

its like a fun minigame!

[@Ripdooder221]

Cool, now you do math before resetting for hours mindlessly 😂

[@FistingGuru]

True 😅

[@iz.FullSend]

Little did we know, this journey would last our lifetimes! I was 10 when I first started back in 2007, I'm 26 now!

[@chillinglikeavillful]

Right, I started with Pokémon yellow probably at the same age, im almost 31 and RNGing right fucking now lol

[@imthelapis]

Incredible video, I decided to try RNG manipulation a few years ago and could never come back, it was the same feeling as when I first discovered competitive pokemon, it's like another game inside the game :D The pokemon RNG community is amazing, thanks to people like you and blisy I can enjoy the games I already love even more.

[@Airo_]

Wonderful video, rng manipulation revived my love for pokemon 4 years ago. As you mentioned there are so many new things to do that you wouldn't normally do.

[@evelynrose7490]

This found me at a perfect time. I played gen 3-6 ish growing up and Pokémon slowly lost charm over that time. As an adult, I started learning about IVs, EVs, natures, etc. That made the games a lot more interesting and deep for me, as I thought they were super simple baby games. I just started a fresh save of Platinum for the nostalgia, and within a day or two found yours & blisy’s videos about RNG manipulation and I haven’t been more interested in diving headfirst into Pokémon like this since I was little. Can’t wait to learn more and try it out!!

[@rawtrout007]

Did you get a shiny?

[@connorhough4660]

You've sold me, man. I'm gonna give it a shot this weekend. Best of luck (haha) on your own RNG hunts!

[@pg13snipez]

Did you do it?

[@mayesplays]

Quality video Papa and definitely rings true for me. My ‘second finding’ of Pokemon was when I played through Soul Silver, RNG manipping at every possible chance - starter, the gift pokemon you can receive at the second? Pokémon centre, all legends, any other gifts etc Also just wanted to say you’re one of a couple of creators who have inspired me to start my own content!

[@IsuKen]

+spends hundreds of hours learning to manipulate frame perfect inputs+ “Wow u lazy cheater” Honestly, I have nothing but respect for people who put in the time to figure out this sort of stuff. I personally would never use it because I like the satisfaction of the reward after not knowing how many attempts it will take, but I don’t blame people who find it rewarding to learn the inner mechanics and work them to their advantage, either.

[@mhchx3]

Not lazy, just cheater. It's not even a criticism, just a fact. Cheating is fine, it's a solo game.

[@razrv3lc]

@@mhchx3 it’s not cheating though. It’s literally no different than breeding for exact IVs, abilities, egg moves, and shininess. Using the game’s own code to figure out how to get something you want isn’t cheating. Also, knowing how to get something and actually getting it are two *very* different things because of how difficult some of the RNG manips are (the Shaymin or Crescelia hunts in BDSP are painful).

[@joeb6750]

@@razrv3lc Exactly - this method doesn't manipulate the game in any way nor does it take advantage of bugs like glitzer popping does.

[@ssr8555]

@@mhchx3 using the game’s code to your advantage isn’t cheating. They aren’t altering the game in any way.

[@mr_hands_]

@@razrv3lc using glitches is definitely cheating lol

[@CaptainFalcon333]

5:03 I bought a Pokémon Gold cartridge about 10 years ago and the battery is still alive, but some parts of the audio don't sound off anymore.

[@juuzzee.]

absolutely brilliant video! I'm a bigtime shiny hunter and I couldn't agree more that RNG is just another method to obtain them. while it's true that if someone who manipulated RNG was trying to pass off a shiny as full odds luck is kinda shady, at the end of the day a shiny is only as important as you make it. that's why I spend weeks and months on end hunting, because the strife is what makes the shiny worth it to me. a couple months back I finally got a shiny Cranidos after 104hrs in BDSP, and it's special to me because I know what went into it, not just purely because of its rarity. Great video dude and I'm definitely gonna hit up the stream from now on!

[@catfood1788]

Calling it cheating makes no sense, you are doing everything you can with what the game gives you to not cheat. Huge respect

[@TheDeathmail]

The thing is, you are working with glitches and guides that work with those glitches... But it's not the kinda cheating that matters because it doesn't mess with an outside source like you mentioned...

[@catfood1788]

@@TheDeathmail no glitches just working with broken hardware and a calculator

[@WingedEspeon]

@@TheDeathmail Glitch/bug exploitation is exploiting the game not behaving as the programmers intended. RNG manipulation is exploiting the game working EXACTLY as the programmers intended.

[@AsimovsMedia]

Succeeded in my First RNG Arceus hunt yesterday, thanks to your video on it! Thank you! Keep producing amazing content! See you in Scarlet and Violet!

[@typemasters2871]

I love how RNG manipulate is exchanging luck for skill, even if manipulation is the unintended way unlike luck

[@Ryan-sr5sy]

Absolutely love the thumbnail haha! Fantastic video, a really detailed explainer into rng manipulation. You and Blisy have been doing wonders with your videos over the last year by teaching newbies how to rng manip. Looking forward to more uploads!

[@scraps7624]

Loved this video. It was a joy rediscovering gen 3 with tutorials from you & Blisy

[@hanswurst9120]

Viewing the understanding, uncovering and application of deeply complex and well hidden mathematics, instead of dismissing it as "random", as cheating, just leaves me at a loss for words.

[@jeremeynorris9246]

Thanks!Need More Content like THIS!! Love the work.

[@PapaJefeYT]

Wow my first Super Thanks ever!

[@TheTalmon18]

Fantastic video! When I first heard about rng, I soft-resetted for Lugia in SS until I got it shiny so I can find its ivs to determine my sid. From there, it's been RNG central! (Sapphire, HG/SS, Platinum, B/W & B/W 2) :D I personally enjoyed it because (without tid/sid manip), I feel like resetting for that Lugia earned and granted me the ability to rng haha And of course I always tid/sid manip now! :P

[@PapaJefeYT]

Shiny Hunting 🤝RNG

[@Flamyll]

Gameshark/ActionReplay/PKhex ect are essentially breaking into your Game with tools RNG is within the Games base programming and does take some skill to tap into in order to use properly, like Speedrunners mastering In-game Glitches to help them beat games faster. I have my reservations about abusing it for everything, but as long as it only utilizes the Game's interior functionality. It's fair Game. May not be the intended way, but I'm not going to call it out like I would Genning.

[@Goldencat44]

I agree to a certain extent. If it’s simple but requires some effort to improve your odds not guarantee the out come you want I am great with that but if it requires things like naming your character a certain name it feels less authentic

[@Flamyll]

@@Goldencat44 I never needed to whenever I dabbled with it, as long as You time the final press properly for the ID you want you can use whatever names you want

[@Zero-xl2ef]

I’ll stick with the action replay

[@Flamyll]

@@Zero-xl2ef You do you, doesn't mean I have to agree. :) as long as you're having fun.

[@Zero-xl2ef]

@@Flamyll 👍

[@kelleren4840]

Honestly, as someone who's never tried RNG manipulation, I feel like people saying it's illegitimate or illegal are wildly salty, for no reason. "My way of spending weeks of time hunting for a shiny Pokemon can beat up *your* way of doing weeks of research to get a shiny Pokemon!" Like, come on guys. Give me a break. Simply knowing how the game works isn't cheating. That's like saying people who battle and understand type weaknesses are cheating. Just objectively wrong on all fronts. Stop being salty. Whether to you're doing the research/timing practice to grind for a shiny or soft resetting a bajillion times, both methods are simply understanding game mechanics, and committing to different strategies to get the same result.

[@Kalaphant]

YES "knowing how the game works is cheating" like come on!

[@cosmicsvids]

Yes but its sorta hard to draw the line theres also ace which can be done with out an eternal tools or devices but its basically like hacking the game from inside the game itself using a glitch to exploit it and run your own code.

[@FlautistAcacia]

I used Blisy's video about the Cute Charm glitch and have been loving picking up Soul Silver again, and pickex up Pokemon Channel to try out the RNG for shiny Jirachi! Its been really fun going back and trying new stuff with old games aha

[@CyrusZerbe]

These videos are so entertaining dude. Killing it.

[@Arzeena1990]

RNG manupulation is SO technical and hard, if you get it to work you DESERVE that shiny.

[@imablisy]

I just watched this again and it's so good lol

[@leifalley7167]

such a great intro to the rng community! your guides are perfect!

[@BetaNights]

A little late to catching this video in particular, but I'm in the middle of doing a Nuzlocke + Living Dex quest through the entire series. I've been playing since Pokemon Yellow when I was 6 years old, and finally decided I wanted to work on a Living Form Dex, with the added personal caveat that I want to catch every single Pokemon (when and where possible) from their original games (so Gen 1 from RBY, Gen 2 from GSC, etc.), and not just all from later generations. To keep it interesting, I'm doing Hardcore Nuzlockes along the way, since I've always wanted to do challenge runs like that too (wanna do a Monotype Bug run at some point). That said, once I finish my Nuzlockes, I start working on my Living Dex, as well as do any Shiny Hunting I feel like doing along the way, and while I've gotten some really cool stuff, like every single Odd Egg Shiny, and even a couple Shiny Pokemon transferred up from YELLOW, it really exploded for me with RNG manipulation in Gen 3. Your videos, as well as imablisy's, have been instrumental to me. I was familiar with RNG manipulation already, to some extent, having practiced it a bit back in Pokemon Black ages ago. But Gen 3 manipulation is another beast, especially with A.C.E. added in, and it's SO FUN!! I got myself a legit Shiny Deoxys and Shiny WISHMKR Jirachi as well, plus my own little Yard Rat! Anyway, thanks for all the cool stuff, dude! I love your videos!

[@SirMexicanYCP]

God, this takes me back. I remember learning the ropes of RNG manipulation with Gen 7 as my start, and that has been my preferable game to do RNG in. But, the learning curve, as quite nuts, and I am not exactly a person with quite a lot of rhythm, if shiny 0 speed IV Stakataka taking me a month is anything to go by. And I must say, you have done quite a phenomenal job explaining the inner machinations of how RNG manipulation works, and why it is legal within the competitive scene. It always baffles me to this day that people still see this as cheating, and lazy, regardless that mastering this craft can take many, many days. Specially if you do this sort of stuff across different generations, as not all games are created exactly equal in how you can approach it. And even then, there’s always something new hiding in the corner, for many years all we could RNG manipulate in Sword and Shield were raids, until the community figured out how to RNG wild Pokémon, and learn your secret ID from it as well; and in Gen 3, I think the painting stuff was a rather recent discovery as well. I hope this community keeps on thriving, and evolving, across all generations.

[@ActualKuma]

As someone who has done both rng manipulation and shiny hunting and has enjoyed both i think they both have their merits. Rng manipulation requires a lot more skill and knowledge about the games and I love learning about how people reverse engineered the games to understand how the rng works. Ive only done it once to get the cute charm glitch on platinum and it took just over 3 hours of attempts for me to hit the seed I needed so I really respect people who put their time and effort into rng manipulation. Shiny hunting on the other hand is about the journey and its all gambling. And personally i really enjoy that, it can be really thrilling when you finally find a shiny that you've spent weeks to months looking for in the older games and that is what has me hooked.

[@PapaJefeYT]

Love to see people who can appreciate both methods. I've also done both over the years, but nothing beats the feeling I get when I conquer a super difficult RNG for a competitive shiny that takes me days of attempts. It feels like magic and science at the same time.

[@Shine69yt]

So I've been shiny hunting for over 10 years now and I'm trying to do it as "legitimate" as possible. I wouldn't even change my system's date or time to hunt specific shinies, let alone use third party hardware/software. That being said, I completely understand that those are the rules I subject myself to and that it's completely fine if others wanna play the games differently. After all radar shiny hunting often felt the most rewarding as you actually need to pay attention and use more than the two braincells you usually use for other shiny hunts, in that regard it's kinda like rng manipulation. But to me the very most important part of shiny hunting is the randomness, which rng manip takes away. I also think that most of the people that do rng manipulation aren't the ones that try to figure it out themselves like you do, but rather follow along youtube videos to get a shiny faster or just have a bit of fun getting a shiny. Even tho shiny hunting isn't really competitive like speedrunning is, I think that there are categories to it as well and if everyones upfront about their rng manips there really shouldn't be a problem. All in all I think that some people should just be more open minded to rng manipulation and just see it as a separate category that doesn't make their own shinies less of an achievement.

[@tjalfebnding8787]

EXACTLY. This is the sort of thinking that I so rarely see Usually people can be very one sided on this kind of subject after seeing way too many takes from twitter and what not it is refreshing to see someone able to evaluate from many perspectives thank you :) made my day just a tiny bit better

[@tway.r]

god the WISHMKR Jirachi was one of the most exciting shinies i've gotten in my whole life. Watching your Quick and Dirty guide on it was what made me want to pick up RNG Manipulation.

[@MrMarkitos96]

Damn, hooked me with the title and it was worth the watch. Great video my dude!

[@ILazzarus666]

Hope this video blows you up even more. You and blissy be like my step dads that taught me RNG. Thanks dads. Have a good day jefe.

[@Haydunn]

Great vid man, got me interested in trying this myself

[@imablisy]

Can't recommend it enough!! Always recommend starting with your fav game. I know you're a big gen 4 guy, and that's one of the easier gens to give it a whirl in.

[@PapaJefeYT]

Wow! Never expected to see you here. We battled on your YT stream the other day, and I mentioned RNG in chat. Algo must have done me a favor. 😅 Really glad you liked to video!

[@Haydunn]

@@PapaJefeYT Ayyyy thats sick! I subbed, keep it up my dude

[@RebeccaBrunner]

Even if you prefer SRing for shinies, still a good idea to know how this stuff works so you can at least know that if you are SRing on Emerald or dead battery RS for a shiny your odds are in all intents and purposes 0 since your shiny frame is set and probably not in the first 1000 frames.

[@en5490]

I think there's a very fascinating dichotomy within the pokemon games. On one hand, the IV system has driven me nuts for years. For christ's sake, why is it that the stats have to be 0-31, ON TOP OF getting the right nature.. it's ridiculous and for many years has prevented people from getting certain mons with competitive stats because the sheer math just isn't on your side. It's like, why does it have to be this way? Why does it have to be so difficult to get a "perfect" pokemon sometimes? But somehow, I've grown to love it. And outsmarting the odds with the RNG tools just feels so good. If it were so easy to get a perfect pokemon, there wouldn't be the satisfaction and pride when you boot up your game and open your party or box to find your latest successful RNG "project" sitting there waiting for you. Against all odds, you have in your hands something you once only wished of having. That's what makes it so cool. Approaching each pokemon RNG differently... which tools, techniques, games, egg moves, etc. It all adds up to something almost more fun than the game itself.

[@PapaJefeYT]

You are one of RNGesus' chosen people. Bless your soul 🙏

[@luiscd21]

Dang this video is great. Between you and blissy, I have found new joy in my old gen 3 gba carts. Started a new save for emerald a few weeks ago with a shiny mudkip and now I got a shiny latias, shiny groudon, and shiny rayquaza. Followed your tutorial vid for ACE and unlocked old sea map, eon ticket, etc. all successfully. Rn waiting on frame 1mil+ to get a modest shiny kyogre. Needless to say that thank you and the community for getting me excited to play pokemon again

[@PapaJefeYT]

You're in Emerald waiting for Frame 1 million? Have you considered using a Battle Video or the Painting Seed?

[@luiscd21]

@@PapaJefeYT Yes! I’m doing the battle vid method to save the frame and then try for the kyogre and shiny modest latios too. Painting seed seems a little too complicated for me

[@PapaJefeYT]

Okay thats good! I was just making sure you weren't doing a 1 million frame wait every time LMAO Good luck!

[@luiscd21]

Lol thanks for the help!

[@azurebluegames]

I have just discovered this aspect to the Pokémon games and it's very interesting. As a casual, I'm still trying to understand Natures, IVs and EVs lol 😂 However, I believe RNG is not cheating. Rather, it's understanding how the game was coded and exploiting it to get the desired result. Some are just salty that all the time & efforts they've spent could be done in a faster, effective, and calculated manner.

[@planetariansaturn8593]

Actually, I had discovered this while playing on MyBoy in my phone. I noticed with the save and load function, that emerald pokemon encounter was random with every step, but Firered had a set amount of grass you had to walk in order to encounter pokemon. If I performed the same action in the exact same time, I would even encounter the same pokemon. This functioned so in catching, moves hitting and other rng related events like battle tower teams. pretty coool

[@mirp01-q9j]

I have resently found blisys tutorials and videos, soon afterwards io got yours reccomended and I really wanted to give rng manip a try. i now have put over 40 hours of gameplay into emerlad in the last week, just me, playing though the game and trying to hit a shiny frame with decent stats (also from battle videos) from time to time. I even bought emerald only for getting a shiny rayquaza and now, trough your and blisys videos i now have so much more and most importantly, i had so much fun doing all of these things. I'm now aiming to start rnging in gen5 as well (i already have done a bit in gen4) and i'm looking forward to trying out some of the manipulations i have seen on BDSP from your channel. Keep up the great work and see you in the next video!

[@glazed6981]

recently bought emerald too, do you have any video recommendations for emerald rng manip? i’ve seen a few but keep getting confused

[@mirp01-q9j]

@@glazed6981 I used the guide from Blisy titled "GUARANTEED SHINY STARTER IN POKEMON EMERALD!(How to RNG a Shiny Starter and SID in Emerald)" If you follow it step by step you should be able to pull of the starter maipulation.

[@robinfinch314]

Honestly, I feel like it's super fascinating how much information and research goes into something like this. Luck is boring. Knowledge is exciting. Keep on going!

[@SalamiMilk]

I wanted to RNG manipulate on Ultra Sun, but I started to play before I knew about it. Then I realized to find my Secret Trainer ID number, I couldn't have reseted before the first encounter with your starter OR change your trainer name. I've named my player Louie, but I forgot the "I" so I went back and changed it. So, there goes my hope of RNG manipulating my Ultra Sun game. A similar thing happened with my Sapphire game where I learned about RNG manipulation after I started my game, so I had no real way of checking my Secret Trainer ID without reseting my game. Maybe when I beat my Ultra Sun game, I'll reset my game and try to RNG manipulate. It takes as much work and setup as regular shiny hunting or perfecting stats. It's it own work and is still very difficult to do. I admire the RNG community for figuring this out, it's hard work.

[@imaSeraphRBX]

I can use PKHex to find you SID and TSV for you if you'd like.

[@RebeccaBrunner]

Late but you can still RNG for stats, just not shiny

[@bigshaxx2446]

Whether or not you consider RNG manipulation cheating comes down to your definition of cheating. I'm perfectly fine with exploiting features that are already in the game. To me that's not cheating, it's inventive and smart. However, I am not ok if you need to use an external device running non-nintendo licensed software to manipulate the game's code and acquire something that would otherwise be unobtainable. If you don't want to use RNG manipulation then don't but then don't complain about the legitimacy of RNG manipulated pokemon because you spent hundreds of hours hunting a single shiny pokemon. If that frustrates you then you clearly regret your decision and wasted your time - that's on you. If you're content with the time it took then the method through which someone else achieved the same goal shouldn't bother you.

[@ralph8589]

This is the best comment I've seen so far

[@Triattack007]

Awesome video!!! Subbed and excited to see what you do next!

[@matthewschmitt4421]

You convinced me! RNG Manips should get more respect, its as cool as any other part of competitive Pokemon!

[@mhchx3]

Cool and respectable way of cheating

[@holobucket7626]

never heard of any of this before. It's super cool, but I'll never treat shines as anything more than that random wtf moment that happens every 70th time you replay a pokemon game. I know Wormadam's not the most loved pokemon, but the shiny burmy I randomly got has become one of my favorite team members in brilliant diamond lol

[@unproxified9184]

This video was so awesome 👏🏽 good content as always Jefe 💙

[@hollofly]

My first shiny was a sentret that was lost to a dead Silver cartridge. It would be so cool to use rng and get my pink buddy back

[@Ash1Størm]

Love your point of view. I don't think it's necessarily cheating because all you really do is make getting your shiny a lot sooner and your not making or cloning to bring to the game. I do think it's unfair to those of us who don't know how to do it but that gets made up by the way everyone who is able to do this shares it with the rest of us. I really appreciate the people who take the time to help people like me understand how to do this. Newly subscribed 💐

[@FreakyNationLife]

I’m on the fence with save editing. All of the shinies I got are legit but the ability to save edit mystery gifts that change the game somewhat is a life saver. Getting the Eon ticket in ORAS in 2022 is baffling to me.

[@Hashikawaa]

whats up man I just want to let you know ive been watching your videos for a while now and theyve helped me out a lot. I just watched your most recent sc/vi video and i decided to watch this one at the end im glad i did. keep up the awesome content man thank you

[@talhatariq3994]

Didn’t realize how involved and interesting RNG manips were, thought perfect frame timing was borderline wizardry thanks for helping convince me otherwise

[@Whiteythereaper]

Having any sense of musical rhythm really helps

[@3Y3ECE]

Im old school. Started with blue on the brick gameboy. Now on legends arceus post completion alpha shiny hunting. I have never used or sanctioned use of rng, hacks, or any other chieating in my game because i lost an important save file mew cloning in silver. That said, thats my game, and how i play. I have masuda method bred 25 shinies, one of which is a flygon with all 6 stats perfect, this, shes my gem. I enjoy the grind, i enjoy rhe chase, and i treasure my rewards. I will keep playing this way. All rng peeps, keep playing your way too, because eventually pokemon as a company will be okay with it. Nothing wrong with wanting to battle at the highest tiers of the game, thats where epic stories live!! Great vid, and i love the lack of animosity. Very objective and clear. Well done!!

[@darkglass3011]

RNG Manipulation = Advanced Shiny Hunting Method RNG Haters: Those guys are HACKING! Also RNG Haters: *uses Shiny hunting methods*

[@Kalaphant]

EXACTLY Like they're probably using Catch Bonus in the Let's Go games, how are you supposed to find out that that gives shinies on your own? XD

[@cyndaquil8331]

Great video! I am truly amazed by your skills. As a shiny hunter, I would have probably switched to RNG a long time ago if only I had the patience to set it up and a natural rhythm. xD Instead, I'm almost half-done with my living national dex with three RNGed mythicals (Mew, Jirachi, Manaphy) and the Hoenn starters, on which I learned to use the tools. Still, I needed the assistance of Lego Mindstorms - because I could never hit the perfect frame. The fact that you can do it repeatedly and on different systems is mind-blowing!

[@PapaJefeYT]

The fact that you're praising me, and I'm sitting here looking at Lego Mindstorms right now and shitting my pants at the idea of using it for frame perfect inputs...

[@cyndaquil8331]

@@PapaJefeYT Ha ha, I guess everyone has their own set of praiseworthy skills ;)

[@BlackLevant]

glad that you're back! :)

[@iamandyFEARME]

this is absolutely fascinating because on my first ever save file of Ruby at age 6, i rolled a shiny mudkip. the odds of it happening make me wonder if i just happened to press A at the right time.

[@PapaJefeYT]

Same thing happened to me in Fire Red when I was a kid with Charmander. Unfortunately lost that shiny to the classic younger sibling shenanigans... but then I learned RNG to reclaim him, and look where that got me!

[@yharim180]

W video. I came here after the BDSP RNG guide. People vastly underestimate how much skill RNGing takes. It took me days to get one shiny, but I knew that I was using my time in a worthwhile manner to be more efficient. It’s great.

[@Rafael_Oiticica]

I always hacked Pokémon simply because I (and certainly no one) have the time it takes to create teams and teams of perfect Pokémons. I used many tools, since DPP. I stopped playing in Gen 6. Some years later, I discovered RNG because I wanted to buy some hack device and I wasn't able to do so. Frustrated, I searched "perfect Poké without hacks" and found the rabbit hole of RNG manipulation. After years, YEARS of wanting a shiny Treecko on my SoulSIlver, today I have boxes of others Shinies alongside him with them. I don't compete anymore, only play competitively Gen 1 on Showdown, but my cartridges (specially SoulSIlver, my personal gem) is full of RNG Pokés. There is simply no reason to spend so much time creating just one team. In competitive you use a lot more than one team. Most teams use legendaries (Thundurus, Raikou and alike), and to get them perfect is terribly long. With RNG you can shorten this ridiculously big time. When we are kids, it is fine to breed and all that... I think that the only games that you can REALLY breed competitively is Gen 6 onwards. Before that, just use RNG. Specially if like me and 90% of the Pokémon fanbase you're already an adult, and probably with a kid. Not only it seems stupid spend so much time to create Pokés to battle, it seems nonsense. Just get it and play. If you want to hunt Shinies, do it with your time. No problem. But play competitively and breeding manually isn't a show of strenght, is a show of stupidity. Amazing video, dude! I didn't know you, and now I already love! :D

[@HamkkeTogether]

What you do is amazing, pure gold and math science. I don't even play Pokemon at all, but I'm stunning about all you did here. You got a new subscriber.

[@mastersword3688]

This is why you keep my love for RNGing shinies. Thanks Jefe. You are the man.

[@-Knave]

Shiny Hunting is pulling a slot machine lever, RNG manip is researching the slot machine internals to guarantee big payouts.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

"might as well have hacked it in and saved yourself the trouble" I mean yeah, you could say that about every single shiny hunting method.

[@FrenkTheJoy]

The game doesn't know any better, and neither do your opponents.

[@TheCrashbandicoot36]

Epic video, already do a lot of RNGs thanks to Blissy, and now this motivates me even more, truly inspiring video Papa Jefe. And i also agree hacking takes out all the new puzzle fun away.

[@therockyhelmetferrothorn3613]

If anyone ever tells you that RNG Manip us just cheating with extra steps use this allegory: "If I have an end of year test and ask the professor what topics are they going to cover on it so I can study by myself, making sure I know every detail, and entering the test with the security I would get a good score, is that cheating with extra steps? Am I as big of a cheater as the guy who didn't study at all and just took out his phone during the test to get the answers?"

[@codymeacham5193]

Just this past month or two I discovered RNG Manip through you and blisy and through much confusion and tedious efforts honing my skills (and acquiring the necessary knowledge like zigzagoon is generated 142 frames after starter in Hoenn, shoutout my 20 some uncatchable shinies ahhh) I FINALLY GOT MY SHINY MUDKIP in my all time favorite Pokémon , Emerald. As blisy's comment says, try it out on an old favorite and find something new to love and look forward to with every static encounter possibly ;) Love my shiny swampert play through I will be trying for the legendaries soon and to try and understand sweet scenting with an unknown SID or figure out my SID next. Safari shiny hunting REs as a new angle to play and try for too!

[@codymeacham5193]

To add; I haven't completed the RNG seed to shiny starter route that is Manip. I was SRing a second cartridge and had a perfect early shiny frame and then used EonTime to focus in on the frame. Yeah, hence 20+ shiny zigzagoons until someone told me wait exactly 142 frames or so later lol

[@hershmysson]

The way I see it is that "games have unintended mechanics", it's like telling a runescape player that tick manipulation is cheating, until you realize the depth contained within those methods and how much it really brings to the game.

[@PapaJefeYT]

I agree. Sometimes "unintended mechanics" wind up transforming how you experience a game entirely. One need only look at Mario 64, as a shining example of how the "intended experience" is really just the starting point.

[@hershmysson]

@@PapaJefeYT exaaactly, sm64 starts up with a really solid base for mechanics that compliment each other (marvelously I might add) and then it's left to players to figure out "how far can I go with this"

[@FunnyFun3000]

Really cool video. I started to look into rng manipulation with your video on shiny arceus. Since then i wanted to try more and more because it was really fun and made things reachable out of a sudden. Thanks to you, blisy and countless other cool guides online i managed to rng a lot of cool pokemon like shiny mew, deoxys, jirachi, manaphy and many more. I can not thank you enough for showing me the door to the rng world. It really is something else. Keep up the good work!

[@ToiletPunisher38]

Here from blissys channel. Subbed. Good job sandwich man

[@raiyanrazni]

It's like auto shiny trading in LGPE, as a legendary poketuber said in that video. "You won't believe how much effort it took to get this lazy." Meaning even if from the outsiders perspective you're "cheating" from the "cheaters" perspective they did almost as much if not more than the patient hunters.

[@fazzitron]

Just got into RNG Manipulation a few weeks ago because of your mew video. Now, I have 3 shinies of each Hoenn starter and just got my first shiny starter in BD yesterday! 😁

[@williambolls1819]

You rock man! I used your guide to RNG the Colosseum Bonus Disk Jirachi!

[@drspody]

20 years i know this game and I've never heard of this before! Thanks for this video!

[@tiagomatias6667]

Great video! Im still gona shiny hunt the good old way but Im def getting perfect IV pokemon for my team! You can't even imagine how I felt after discovering that Its basicly impossible to get perfect pokemon by soft reseting so having this neat way to get them that still envolves patience and skill is just perfect!!

[@mhchx3]

Or just breed them you know. Might not involve patience or skill but it's faster and also not cheating. Who in their right mind would even try to soft reset for perfect IV lol ?

[@Kody1_Kenobi]

I remember as a kid I encountered a shiny after starting up the game in emerald. I ended up killing it. Shut the game off and retraced my steps exactly and encountered it again!! So wild I was like 10.

[@Whitehorse_crimefighter]

Hatching eggs for stats and shiny is super relaxing to for me. Great to help you fall asleep early if that's what you're trying to do 🤣🤣 I've been trying to hatch a shiny snom and I can feel it's going to be in the next box.. it can get addictive. Sometimes it feels like gambling or like scratching a scratch card hoping to win

[@daydreaming5365]

I have played through every pokemon game 2-3 times and I have only ever found 3 shinies (2 of which were back to back lol). Finding them legitimately and without manipulation feels so good but I feel the rate is incredibly low. Manipulation would remove that feeling of finding one completely but there's nothing wrong in people doing it for one.

[@Bartre_God]

1:10 : this is me, my first Pokémon game (Atleast not illegally obtained) was Pokémon sapphire, I played in on my GameCube and well I had a hard time choosing my starter, I eventually went for Mudkip after about 30 minutes… and it was purple ??? I was confused but thought hey cool . Unfortunately the save file has corrupted. BUT i reclaimed muddy later in less than 10 srs, shiny Mudkip loves me in gen 3

[@Checkstarr]

Always love your videos Big Papa! Glad to see you back ✨

[@Whitetysnowny]

Thank u so much! I learn so much from your video about community and new approach to play pokemon❤

[@MetalSam25]

I use RNG manipulation, glitches, action replays, etc. I have no time for the game to decide whenever it wants to give me what I need.

[@MagnanimousWaffle]

AMAZING video, I honestly haven't played a Pokémon game in a long time but am seriously considering it now!

[@Pownchao]

I’ve known about RNG manipulation in these games, but this video is really making it less intimidating for me to try it! And yeah, I’ve never seen this as cheating! Kinda crazy how people will see it that way. It’s kinda just like finding an easy money-making exploit in an RPG. We’re all just trying to save some time!

[@johnnystephens259]

I never saw RNG manipulation as cheating. You’re using functions within the game to your advantage to get what you want. I would be interested in trying it sometime, but every time I watch a video from you or Blissy it feels like y’all are doing rocket science!

[@philipkandinski5233]

Just finished XD Gale Of Darkness and started X.. I guess I will be checking X rng's manipulation right away.. thanks for the advice! Great video man..

[@PapaJefeYT]

Blisy is still working on updated Guides for Gen 6, so there aren't any great resources for learning it yet. Most people use custom firmware with a plugin called PCalc which reads the RNG data and overlays it on the screen. If you're fine with this, then thankfully hacking your 3ds is very easy and accessible for anyone. Only recently are advancements being made to pull it off without using unmodified hardware. If you'd prefer this method, then I'd recommend waiting just a bit longer. But you can do TID\SID and learn the basics now. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWXFeKmCeq6om5o) In the meantime, why not try PokeSpot RNG on XD Gale of Darkness! You can actually get perfect 5-6IV Competitive Shiny Pokemon with this method, but the only targets are: Sandshrew, Gligar, Trapinch, Hoppip, Phanpy, Surskit, Zubat, Aron, and Wooper. Crobat, Gliscor, Flygon, Donphan, Aggron, and Quagsire are all good in competitive, so personally I think its worth it. I have two guides, one for shiny and one for IVs (since they are decided separately): kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5zWiourbL-jprc kzbin.info/www/bejne/hofLimWogc9jZ9k And Blisy does as well, among many other XD RNGs: kzbin.info/aero/PL4o9bTT3px_iXpGqyn9FsmlhRZ2eDacXQ

[@philipkandinski5233]

@@PapaJefeYT I'm flattered by the amount of personal attention you are showing here.. I finished XD but I started XG Next Gen fanmade rom hack so I will definitely check your suggestions here for the old generation.. As for the 6th one I am watching how Blissey recreated Wolfeys 2016 Worlds Team at this very moment.. you guys are truly facinating.. I'm very excited for this whole new world you are opening my eyes for and you really proof this is one of the most coziest parts of the whole pokemon community

[@Obligarth]

Man good job on uploading this video it shows your passion about something you love and this is what matters keep up the good work you just earned yourself a subscriber

[@monkeymike18]

I have nothing but respect for the individuals who took the time to learn what makes our beloved games tick. After successfully getting shinys through RNG exploitation, I quickly learned it was not for me. My feeling of "holy cow! A shiny!" turned into "oh a shiny, its about time..". However more than anything, I love how RNG exploitation has allowed so many more fans to share in the joy that shinys bring us.

[@Decoy_Shark]

Completed the entire Gen 3 Dex without finding a shiny Pokemon, so I don't see an issue in manipulating RNG. It's inside the game. Just like I don't see a problem with the Mew glitch in R/B.

[@dreamareakoso3791]

for several weeks, i took turns shiny hunting Eevee, Abra, Mudkip, and Poochyena (for reference i hacked in pokéballs in the event of a shiny poochyena while shiny hunting the starters), after weeks and weeks and a couple thousands soft resets in, i got a shiny Eevee, not long after i got a shiny Abra, and shortly after that i got a shiny Mudkip, and the next morning when shiny hunting for Torchic i got a shiny Poochyena, mind you, i was not RNG manipulating as i simply find it too hard, literally the best shiny luck i’ve ever had

[@nicholasrivera2950]

Shiney and Pokemon iv is what brought me back to pokemon go since 2016.

[@EnzoDraws]

A dead battery is a time machine back to Y2K, mother of all shinies.

[@OshieMan]

This was a brilliant watch, I may have to give RNG manip a try! Does Emerald's weird RNG affect this method at all?

[@imablisy]

Emerald effectively works the same way as dead battery RS, but with a different initial seed. The trainer ID stuff works different, but everything else works the same as described, but with the initial seed as "0" instead of "5A0". Emerald is also cooler because it has a very big variety of ways to do RNG Manips. Battle Videos, Paintings, TIDSEED, the rabbit hole is big on that game.

[@OshieMan]

@@imablisy Thanks for the reply, I've given it a whirl and managed to get two shinies just today. This is CRAZY! Thanks for the info, man!

[@ObeliskDemon]

I just finished rng manip. all shiny shadow pokemon in colosseum over 4 months (very casual playing it). going for ribbon master on a couple of them but definitely would have taken years to get just half as much with stock rng