pokemon controversies from the 90's, 2000's, and 2010's...

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Over the decades there have been quite a few Pokemon controversies popped up, that range from actual real world issues to controversies within the games like Pokemon Go or the newer releases like Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.
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@cyanimation1605 8 ай бұрын

Porygon was a scapegoat. It was Pikachu's attack

@Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 ай бұрын

True

@SuperFlashDriver 7 ай бұрын

Yes, that is true. BUT, the one that I "Blame" the most, is Nurse Joy and her IT specialist. They were the ones who inserted the virus into cyberspace, thus not knowing they could have killed those who were in cyberspace, including pikachu and porygon. So if the IT specialist didn't install the anti-virus program, they would have been fine.

@ShiroiTengu 6 ай бұрын

The flashing lights happened before Pikachu attacked. It's all the anti-virus' fault.

@SuperFlashDriver 6 ай бұрын

@@ShiroiTengu Especially Nurse Joy and her IT guy are the two responsible for what could possibly be filed under "Murder" and "Neglect for safety for both humans and animals". So yeah, unless the IT knew and had a camera on his monitor who was in cyberspace in the first place, he could have programmed the virus bot to only attack those who are responsible for the actions compared to Ash and his group. But yeah, thank you, the only one, not just me, who knows what is REALLY up.

@IcicleThorn 3 ай бұрын

That’s why Pokemon once tweeted “Porygon did nothing wrong” but they had to delete the tweet due to hate lol

@Holly_seems_okay 8 ай бұрын

It’s horrible that so many children died, but surely some blame should somewhat be on the parents for giving children toys unsupervised and possibly at an age where they shouldn’t have them anyway?

@krystalfan135 8 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. The 4 month old shouldn't have had the plastic in the crib, and it feels like the 7 year old should have known better than to put toys in their mouth. Still tragic that they have passed from these toys, but I agree. The parents should have been watching them closer and taking the parts away that were choking hazards.

@limekiwi6290 8 ай бұрын

Went to Catholic school when I was a kid and when Pokemon came out I tried to get my best friend to play with me. Let her use my Gameboy and everything. Her parents found her playing Pokemon and we weren't allowed to be friends anymore because I was trying to convert their child to praising the devil. It was a whole thing growing up.

@UnknownUser-z7f3w 8 ай бұрын

What does Pokémon have to do with religion? I’m Christian and I play Pokémon all the time.

@thatonepossum5766 8 ай бұрын

@@UnknownUser-z7f3w probably the use of the word “evolution”. Could also have something to do with monsters? I went to a private Christian school for a few years (not a Catholic one though), and Pokémon was banned there. I was always allowed to play it at home though. (That school was weird in general though, they banned basically everything imaginary, and all graphic tees)

@limekiwi6290 8 ай бұрын

Back in ye old 90's people saw Pokémon as magic/dark magic creatures that went against a lot of religious beliefs. Nowadays not an issue, but when Pokémon first came out it was.

@getsouped 8 ай бұрын

@@UnknownUser-z7f3w i wasnt allowed to play pokemon as a kid for religious reasons, my mom reasoned it as a mix of the evolving process, the concept of pokemon battles (which she thought were just Fights instead of how theyre portrayed in the series), as well as a lot of pokemon looking incredibly weird/‘demonic’ to her. she doesnt believe that anymore and has gotten me a few pokemon goodies now that im a pokemon enjoyer, but it was a wild way to grow up! my mom was raised catholic btw, i was raised baptist/non-denominational (mix)

@cyanimation1605 8 ай бұрын

@@UnknownUser-z7f3wSaying something is Satanist is just what some christians do when they just don't like something. Everything's either Satanist, "woke," or communist to them.

@Ariento 8 ай бұрын

Ah yes, Meowth is based on a golem. Not the pokemon whose English name is literally Golem. No, no, the cat.

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

Very similar to that ex-Satanist speaker who railed on Poliwhirl for its original name being Hypno. No complaints about the spiral intestine marking thing being an occult symbol, no mention that there’s an ACTUAL Hypno in the game…it makes zero sense. 😂

@KathyHarrington 8 ай бұрын

It feels completely backwards and nonsensical.

@slimcognito383 8 ай бұрын

What's funny is as a kid I didn't know that the voice actors changed. I knew they sounded different but I had no idea why. Weird I couldn't figure that out considering I was 10 at the time.

@madelineconner9069 8 ай бұрын

My grandparents were (still are) VERY religious. They never questioned Pokémon, but they were very upset at me when I was talking about Minecraft to my little brother..

@pjizy3 8 ай бұрын

I went to a super Christian school when Pokemon first came out. My parents got me into Pokemon because they thoght it was cool. Once my PCA school found out about Pokemon, they went around and banned it and sent out these notes to our parents telling them that things like Pokemon, Ninja Turtles, Harry Potter and Power Rangers were banned from our school because it promotes the work of the devil. My parents just laughed at the nte and just told me to not take my Pokemon cards to school anymore.

@KKHell 8 ай бұрын

I'm surprised Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers got banned at that school honestly. Doesn't seem like they'd be a part of the second wave of satanic panic from that time.

@pjizy3 8 ай бұрын

@@KKHell it was a super, SUPER Christian school

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

Kadabra’s Japanese name is literally Yungeller, so I don’t think the inspiration is up for debate at all. 😂 I remember when he apologized and thanked his grandchildren and the Pokemon community for changing his mind a couple years ago, and I thought it was really sweet. Good on him for opening his mind a little, tbh!

@brookearnold3609 8 ай бұрын

There was that one controversy thats still fairly recent where they had a pikachu mascot costume dancing and stuff on tik tok but the song they used had the work "fuck" in it

@MKS12124 8 ай бұрын

Ah yes that clap your hands one. As tik tok is banned here it took some time for me to come to know that such thing had happened

@ToxShox. 8 ай бұрын

My parents didn't let me watch Pokemon but not because of evolution. Someone told them it's exactly like Dungeons and Dragons. A lot of people see dragons as "the beast" aka Satan. So they thought it was like a gateway or something. There was an episode where they referenced the bible (Noah's Ark) that I showed them and they changed their mind. I think the episode was ""Pokémon Shipwreck""

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

D&D was also printed by Wizards of the Coast, who also handled Magic: the Gathering, and both of those have MUCH easier content to target as Satanic or occultism. Literally any Christian speaker or article you see will mention that Pokemon cards (used to be) printed by WOTC as well, and try to draw a connection to Satan for that reason alone. MTG is devil stuff, so D&D and Pokemon are devil stuff simply by association, no mention of the dragons or monsters or anything else necessary. I’m not surprised at all.

@ToxShox. 8 ай бұрын

I actually didn't know that! I knew Magic the Gathering was. But my parents wouldn't have had a concept of that in the 90's. I don't even think they have a concept of that now 😆

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

⁠Fair! Depending on how old you are, it might not have mattered anyway, because WOTC was bought out by Hasbro in 1999. (Can you imagine if these people demonized *everything* Hasbro for being associated with Magic and Dragons, like they did WOTC? Mr. Potato Head and Simon have some explaining to do 💀)

@sanchisan6997 8 ай бұрын

My cousins werent allowed to do anything Pokémon related due to religion also. I remember the moment they said it was because they evolved as the final straw. Young me had realized something. Adults can be dumber than kids sometimes.😂

@rickbardalesproductions1202 8 ай бұрын

I thankfully dont remember any time where someone said pokemon was satanic

@vhfgamer 7 ай бұрын

My dad liked pokemon back in the day, and we are a catholic household.

@thatonepossum5766 8 ай бұрын

I really like Lenora’s original design. The apron looks cool. Didn’t even think about it when I played the games as a kid, but as I got older if I did acknowledge it I just assumed it had to do with her job. Keep the rock dust off her clothes.

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

I do think the original intent was for it to be archeology-related, but it's easy to see how it could be looked at as regressive.

@thatonepossum5766 8 ай бұрын

@@pokepress if the intent wasn’t racist, and in fact had nothing to do with anything racist, aren’t the only people at fault the ones who’re seeing that where it isn’t? Yes, it _could_ be seen as regressive, but that interpretation is clearly incorrect. The only way to see it as anything racist is to be actively looking for anything that could be forcefully shoved into that box. Shouldn’t she actually be considered a _positive_ black character? She has a strong personality, and is a successful businesswoman. The only thing that could _possibly_ be seen as “racist” about this character is that she wears an apron, and anyone not constantly looking for something to be offended by will understand that the apron is worn because of her job as an archeologist. (Sorry if this comes off as hostile, it’s _really_ not meant that way, I just have a hard time controlling the tone of my writing sometimes) Edit: upon rereading I’m not sure my point is clear. Basically what I’m saying is the “controversy” was silly, and I don’t think the design should’ve had to be changed to suit these people, who were probably a minority of a minority.

@NicecrownFromTheBeancrowns 8 ай бұрын

the whole "Pokemon is satanic" thing was still pretty popular back in the 2010's and its still pretty big in the Christian community

@NicecrownFromTheBeancrowns 8 ай бұрын

I got yelled at for arguing with a kid about whether pokemon cards were "of the devil"

@annemabrie2287 8 ай бұрын

My very Christian mom threw away all my pokemon cards (including a base set holo blastoise and charizard) because rumors went around in church that everything with pokemon was somehow the same as worshiping the devil because "God didn't create those creatures" and because of their "evil magical powers"... It backfired since I'm a Nintendo addict now lol

@kittycatzuka 8 ай бұрын

It's always the Tauros episode that gets talked about for the use of guns, but never the one where Ash got Squirtle. I vividly remember a scene in that episode where Ash went to a store to get a Super Potion because Pikachu was badly hurt, but because the store had just been robbed by Team Rocket before he got there, LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE STORE POINTED A GUN AT ASH THINKING HE WAS ANOTHER THIEF. There were even some machine guns if I remember right. Ash even said something like "No, I... don't need a new gun..." I guess only the Tauros episode got banned though because the gun thing happened multiple times, while it only happened once in the Squirtle Squad episode? That and I guess because Squirtle had become one of Ash's main team members while the 30 Tauros stayed at Oak's lab, it wouldn't have made sense to not show the origin of a main team member. I dunno.

@JESmith 8 ай бұрын

It also because Ash had guns pointed at him point blank in the face and editing the guns back then would have been tricky and costly and they would have had to redraw characters’ arms instead of simply erasing the guns

@SuperFlashDriver 8 ай бұрын

Well what if I told you that it was not just the gun pointed at both ash and the audience, but rather, the true reason behind it was that the episode featured Meowth (Nyarth) wearing A Nazi Uniform and has a moustache that made Meowth look EXACTLY like Adolf Hitler, minus the Nazi symbol on it. So personally, the episode was banned because it featured a pokemon that was wearing a NAZI Outfit and looking like Adolf Hitler talking to a safari zone owner, trying to persuade him to tell them where the dragonair/dratini was, similar to how Adolf Hitler would persuade other countries to let him take over certain european countries as to hopefully not start World War II (but that failed and Britain/France ended up going to war with Germany). Not to mention if the episode did air, it would have aired nearly 4 weeks before the Columbine Mass Shooting occurred, causing the episode to be banned for both being Anti-Semitic and racial discriminatory for poking fun at Jewish People and referencing Nazi content in a children's anime, but also references to threats of shooting/killing innocent people and creatures that did nothing wrong to those who actually harmed them in the first place (again, referenced to USA's Mass Shootings, both in high schools AND outside of high schools). So yeah, Episode 35 would have been banned for referencing Nazi Imagery (Germany and Australia would have banned the episode as well, not just US and Canada), but also; Britain, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, China, Korea, Southeast Asia countries, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Finland, Austria, France, Belgium, Czech Republic, and many other nations would have banned it for not only Nazi imagery, but also telling children it's okay to point weapons at others because you're upset with other people, as well as encouraging young children and teens that mass shootings are hip and trendy (like video games for example) and it's okay to attempt assassination on other people you don't like AT ALL or see them as enemies for high school (Virginia Tech Massacre Reference). So Episode 35 would have been very tricky to air in countries where Mass shootings occur, or where Guns have been banned in some nations/territories, as well as the Nazi Imagery in that episode. The other episode that you're mentioning didn't have the guns pointed at the audience (which is evidence considering that pointing a gun at the audience has been seen as outdated, shocking, disturbing, and as an insult to your viewers since 1920).

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

I had a chance to interview Michael Haigney who did the adaption for the first 4 or 5 seasons. One of the problems was that the Safari Zone episode would have required so many cuts/edits that it wouldn't have been long enough ("Beauty and the Beach" probably nearly fell into that category as well, but was eventually salvaged). Of course, real-world events have probably made the Safari Zone episode even less likely to get a western release now.

@SuperFlashDriver 8 ай бұрын

@@pokepress That's what I mentioned too. Because not only the episode had guns pointed at the audience AND many others threaten with guns (making it look like it's okay to threaten people with handguns that, in real life, would cause trauma and murder all over the US), but having nazi portrayals in a Pokemon episode pretty much would have banned the episode as well, considering how discriminatory it would be for those in the Jewish religion and such. And not to mention if this episode did air, it would have occurred nearly months prior to the columbine high school shooting, which would have caused some pokemon anime episodes to be outright banned in America and many countries worldwide except Japan and other territories.

@vhfgamer 7 ай бұрын

The safari zone episode was an example of unsafe firearm handling. I can understand why it got poofed. But the episode where they thought ash was a thief was perfectly reasonable. Except that you don't point a firearm at anything you don't tend to destroy. But it's a TV show, so that one can slide.

@madelineconner9069 8 ай бұрын

As a disabled person, I am a huge instigator of the remote raid pass argument. I have been constantly pestering Niantic (and will continue to do so.) because I am physically unable to drive a car, or go out on my own easily.. raidng is a huge part of the game, and if I’m not able to do it remote, it’s as if I only have half the game.

@thatonepossum5766 8 ай бұрын

I’m not physically disabled, but can’t drive yet because my autism makes it sketchier (having a meltdown while operating heavy machinery seems… suboptimal), making me hesitant to learn. So raids are now almost completely inaccessible for me, too. It’s very frustrating to get timed researches that require completing raids, since I know there’s no way to do them in time. :/ Not to mention that the only way to complete anything above level 2 is to use a remote raid pass, since it takes group sizes that just straight up don’t exist in my town.

@polocatfan 8 ай бұрын

oh is he defending Niantic? yikes. fuck this guy then.

@polocatfan 8 ай бұрын

and cool my comment was deleted. awesome, never watching this guy's channel again. ableists deserve the worst.

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

Same situation. I’m not allowed to have a license in my country as a disabled person and I barely have the ability to move around my own house. Between physical and psych disability I go out in public maybe(?) twice a month? More often none, or once with a horrible result. The app is worthless for people like me without remote options, but now that Switch pokemon games and ACNH both require a subscription I can’t afford in order to use basic social features at all on TOP of an extortionate pricetag, alternative games are my only option. I learned the type chart and some abilities with Showdown but I don’t just want aggressive battling 24/7… I’d like to actually have my own pokemon and engage in more predictable fights. It’s extremely frustrating!

@jasond.b-w 8 ай бұрын

*I can also accept that this game just isn’t made for me, plain and simple…but then I remember that Meltan and Melmetal are ONLY acquired in the main games through Go, and that’s completely unacceptable to me. If they want to make a game that requires activities not everyone is capable of, fine, but hingeing the availability of content in other games on that is inexcusable. Maybe a decorative item or a special effectless berry or something, but not the literal pokemon themselves. My opinion of Go was poor from the beginning but the longer it sticks around, the worse it seems to get. :/

@smol_fluffy_boi 8 ай бұрын

I thought the deal with Lenora’s design was that of an archeologist? The apron was a work one and she had her hair up because archeology is a messy job… not actually intended to be racist… like how Jynx might’ve been based in the gyaru style of fashion in Japan. So I guess not inherently racist but could come off that way, hence their designs were changed? Idk. Thought I watched that in some other KZbin video somewhere but can’t remember where. Maybe an obscure Pokemon facts video or something. Idk. Just tidbit of info I thought interesting and wanted to share.

@thatonepossum5766 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, Lenora is pretty clearly not racist. I’ve replayed those games quite a few times throughout my life, and at no point did I think “she has an apron because she’s black”. It’s always been “she has an apron because she’s an archeologist”. Some people just really try to find these things everywhere… it never should have been controversial. :/

@lunavolo49 8 ай бұрын

Been watching your channel for the past 2 months and honestly I love it so much just having your videos on in the background while I game or do work, and think ur personality is a great one so keep up the work and I love ur podcast sections at the end of the videos their always so fun too listen too!!!

@whimai412 8 ай бұрын

The Lavender town video you did was one of the first videos of yours I watched. :3 This one is pretty nifty, some of them I have heard of. But a lot of them I haven't.

@shadowrose1859 8 ай бұрын

Ah yes. Good ole satanic panic 😅

@hitkid2456 8 ай бұрын

That shit started in the 80s, it really knew how to linger eh? Although it's just conservatism, really. Always having to have an enemy!

@retsymadi 8 ай бұрын

I cant believe Pokémon was involved in so many dumb controversies🤦‍♀️

@unofficialblues 8 ай бұрын

Like I know, some are reasonable like the 20's McDonald's pokeball

@Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 ай бұрын

True

@joliealbury6936 8 ай бұрын

Saudia Arabia when the Regis and Golurk line are actually based on the Golem: i do not see it Saudi Arabia when a cat has a coin on its forehead: *_NOW THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT_*

@bewearstar9462 8 ай бұрын

And their is litterily a pokemon called golem

@lucideirune1635 8 ай бұрын

I have to wonder if the gambling issue is the reason why they aren’t releasing the older Pokemon games on the Switch since Nintendo doesn’t have any M rated games on NSO and if they were rereleased, they would have the M rating. There is also the controversy with Pichu bc its anime voice actor did illegal 💊. Ever since her arrest in 2009, Pichu hasn’t had a card and the spiky ear Pichu ending got pulled shortly after with Doche No instead.

@Clone-Commander-Thire 8 ай бұрын

Porygon did nothing wrong.

@moonamoonz 8 ай бұрын

When will "I spend 100 days in Animal Crossing New Leaf" come?

@darkstarmoonshadow 8 ай бұрын

Conspiracies are BS and people should STFU and not watch or play the game/anime, let the fans hv their fun and leave it be.

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

The release of Pokémon Go in 2016 also caused some significant "victim of success" problems as it sapped the manpower of the company. TCG league supplies were over a month delayed at one point, and the 2016 Worlds had to be closed to the general public with relatively short notice (some folks didn't find out until they got there).

@colliehmars902 8 ай бұрын

Man yeah my sister at first was like that and got mad as fuck I bought cards around her kid one summer...but her boys all watched wwe and OHHH my god lol core memory unlocked. I knew at 10 that shit was stupid 😂

@KirbyJason210 7 ай бұрын

I thought the "did nothing wrong" meme originated from Berserk. You know, with the whole Griffith stuff.....

@illuminationspencer8673 6 ай бұрын

So I’m a Christian, and what I was told growing up about why we weren’t allowed to play Pokémon was because the direct translation of Pokémon is “pocket monster”. That coupled with the concept of evolution and also that you battle them (violence), was essentially the basis for the Pokémon is evil thing. As an adult, I don’t fully agree that it’s straight evil but there are some things that are weird about Pokémon. That being said, I did play Pokémon Go as a teenager and I don’t have strong feelings for or against the game.

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

Last year's worlds was somewhat controversial due to the fact that most of the events required you enter a random drawing, with some folks who had booked months in advance whiffing on most or all of them (I got to go to 3 events, which was relatively lucky). They also had to cancel the "Yokohama Open" event (presumably due to space or staffing constraints, though they never gave a precise reason). This might explain why they have yet to announce full details (exact dates) for this year's worlds in Honolulu-they may want to iron out some specifics before giving all the information.

@transhilbert 8 ай бұрын

Pokemon GO fest as much as a disaster as it was, it was hilarious and iconic for this reason.

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

I was there, but I had only driven a few hours (from Madison, WI). I felt really bad for the folks who came from out of the country. To be fair, their more recent events are much better-I went to an event in Vegas last year and it was very well run.

@radiatingsunray 8 ай бұрын

meowth wasnt dressed as hitler, he was supposed to be a noir film detective. people were just dumb and jumped to hitler like he owns that ugly stache

@hitkid2456 8 ай бұрын

However there was a Nazi-looking guy on the old Pokemon Sunday show with Shokotan, part of TiM duo! That show was such a hoot!

@awesomeocelot7475 8 ай бұрын

I can’t use the code it worked but I have to pay nearly $10 in shipping….

@unofficialblues 8 ай бұрын

How else are they going to make money

@christophernewhouse5832 Ай бұрын

i literally paused the video opened a new window went 2 utube started watching other videos & ended up at another video by this channel ill sub thanks 4 the information i started playing pokemon back in gen 3 & came back because of nostalgia

@Unknownplayer31305 8 ай бұрын

The porygon incident is so infamous that the sword art online light novels (at least the English translations) references it ( not in name of course)

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

Interesting that the Lenora episode was reanimated but the Sun & Moon episode wasn't. Guess the gym battle was more important. Also, kind of suggests that maybe the western branch should be involved/involved earlier in the production of the anime.

@pokepress 8 ай бұрын

To be honest, until Scarlet and Violet, the performance issues in the games came across to me more as "it'd be nice if they ran better". That said, while I agree with many of the findings of fault for S&V, I can't agree with the tone of much of the online criticism.

@KalinTheZola 4 ай бұрын

Pokemon taught me how to debate because I had to debate with my parents until they stopped caring about Pokemon and got over it. They would talk about how it was violent or had monsters in it and I told them how they had me in the same room as they watched one of the Alien movies and didn't seem to care. At first I genuinely think they never considered the things they were watching to be just as "evil" as Pokemon allegedly was. They were pretty stubborn parents growing up though and wouldn't want to admit they were wrong about things so they'd find different reasons to say it was evil. They eventually started saying how I couldn't watch the show because the MOVIE was satanic and caused a bunch of children to have seizures. Not only were they wrong about the circumstances (It was an episode of the show, not the movie), it's really bizarre looking back and them thinking seizures were satanic. I can't picture my parents ever thinking that these days. It took a bit longer to tell my parents they were wrong since the internet wasn't really available for me at that age. I eventually found out the truth and told them what happened and why, but that was waaay later and past the point of them caring about Pokemon. I'm not sure when or why but at some point I could tell they no longer cared. I could watch the show freely and play my games without hiding them. I think at that point they knew I knew they were wrong but didn't want to admit it verbally so they just kind of pretended to not see until it was just a nothing issue.

@ecchaoi 8 ай бұрын

porygon suffered injustice, bro deserved better

@Thepokenerdoriginal 5 ай бұрын

So true

@EricDrinksWater 8 ай бұрын

Respectfully - Kind of a very sloppily researched statement around. That isnt how the whole thing went down.

@amberwelch393 4 ай бұрын

I'm not entirely sure how exactly things would or could change to go from the more gambling-esk "gamecorner" to a more arcade-like gamecorner, but I hated voltorb flip, I could never win enough coins to buy all the tms and items I wanted... until I got an action replay and hacked in all those coins 😅😢