Polestar 4 LR DM Performance | 615km (385 miles) LONG TRIP TEST

[@trinitonv8]

No issues with my Dualmotor with Plus pack only.ACC is better,no phantom breaking for traffic close to me.

[@TheTommieLeo]

I drive a P4 LRDM, 4.500 km so far.Yours is an honest review, and I can appreciate the intellectual honesty. ON the other hand I think you were too harsh. In my experience Auto pilot is not good enough, but not as bad as you are describing it, definitely not to the level of getting so frustrated about the whole car. And the car is still... a car, and there is so much more that can be told. How it feels, how it drives and handles, and that is fantastic, or how it brakes (and this is less fantastic, for instance). I'm trying to be as honest as you are, I watched all your videos on the P4 and I have the impression you are testing it as it was a piece of software instead of a real car. reading some of the comments here, someone is mentioning the Fisker Ocean, such a comparison is totally unfair showing an underlying misunderstanding that is not giving the P4 justice.

[@KrisRifa]

I appreciate your comment. I like how you are able to express what you feel and think without attacking me, but you are still very clear in that you disagree with me on many things. If all comments critiquing me were this constructive the world(and the internet) would be a far better place. So again, I really appreciate your comment. Thanks! With that being said, I feel like I have made enough videos highlighting the positives about this car. And I feel like I am very clear about that I actually really like this car, despite its flaws. Yes I do agree, I looks great, drives great, has a great interior, is spacious, well made, has a great infotainment system. But the problem I have with this car, it that it gets the basics of ADAS so wrong. I mean, Polestar is inherently a spin off of Volvo, with most of the engineers coming from Volvo. Their HQ is literally on the grounds of Volvo HQ in Troslanda. I with that background, this isn't good enough. Or to be more precise. This car isn't finished yet. I started this channel almost 9 years ago with my first Volvo XC90. The spring of 2017 that car got updated to Pilot Assist 2.0, that is more than 7 years ago. And as a result the ADAS in my 2016 XC90 in 2017 worked better than the ADAS in this 2024 Polestar 4. So there really is no excuse. And I do disagree. This cars ADAS is worst than most, and is a bad as I show it to be. My 2016 Volvo XC90 was better. Fact. So for me it really doesn't matter how good the rest of the car is, when the fundamentals aren't finished yet.

[@snorriglmmi4166]

The HUD problems that you experience are strange. On my LRSM plus pilot there are no bugs with the HUD except for the chinese traffic signals.(The driver display shows the proper EU signal, but the hud chinese.) The consumtion is actually quite good compared to my previous LRDM PS2. Average 21 kw/h per 100km, 5-10 kw/h lower than the PS2 in the current cold weather conditions. The most annoying thing I have with the 4 are the headlights. They obviously blind incoming traffic when set in auto. The matrix is much coarser than on the 2 and do especially confuse drivers ahead of you as they think you are signalling them. I've not done any log range driving yet with the route planner, but the dynamic range seems accurate. Unfortunately the driver profile resets the range settings every time I exit the car. Suddenly the range is displayed according to WLTP, wich is of course way off. One other annoying thing is the charge port. Why would anybody want a electric cover, which is a standard feature on so many EV's? It is so unnecessary and stupid. It serves no practical purpose. Also the lack of the cable disconnect button that the PS2 had. I do not regret buying the car as it was just marginally more expensive than buying a new PS2. It drives wonderfully, is super quiet and comfortable. The back seats are in a tier above any in the price range. The major problems are SW related. I'm sure they will be sorted soon. It took about 6 months with the PS2 which was a early production car and it incuded a lot of hardware work. It resulted in a wonderful car that I enjoyed for 4 years, I'm confident that the PS4 will be just as good.

[@AntonioPereira-xn2qt]

Since you started reviewing the P4 it seems that you always have a bugged car. I have a P4 PPP and knowing that it’s not a perfect car and that there are some software bugs, they are not nearly as bad as you say, specially with the latest software update. HUD works ok and Pilot Assist and ACC never failed to come on, at least with the latest update, once you know how to switch each of them on. If you switch on ACC thinking you have switch on Pilot Assist, then the car ping-pongs between the lanes, because what is steering the car is the keeping lane aid. ADAS might not be the best, and I always ask myself what is the purpose of having so many cameras and in the end, apart from the automatic lane change, ADAS has no big different from the P2. Regarding navigation range predictor, mine is always on the pessimistic side, I always get to the destination with more state of charge than predicted, not exceeding speed limits of course, in my case 120km/h and it’s always a plus factor pointed out from other reviewers. So your findings seem very odd. Please excuse me if I’m going to be unfair, but lately you seem to be very VAG Group bias, always comparing with one of their cars, like Porsches, Audis and ID7s. For what I have read, Porsche Macan is also full of software bugs and error messages, some of them preventing the car to be driven, with a price range of another planet. Not to mention the serious battery problems with Taycans that can catch fire. For me it’s better to have youth software problems that can be addressed OTA, as opposite to hardware problems that can only be fixed with time consuming recalls. Even if you were absolutely correct in all the downsides you have mentioned in the review, the plus more than compensate and make me a proud owner of a P4.

[@GTI_CHHA]

Brutally honest review and respect for leaning so far out of the window so-to-speak. Fully agree, the hardware is really slick but the software a disaster. This P4 was also on my shopping list, next to the Zeekr 001. When I test drove the 001, the car (screens) didn't want to start-up, eventually the Tech managed to re-boot it into life, but at that moment I had already made my decision not to buy this car. So basically the test drive was over before it started.. Same comments from Zeekr as you received from Polestar: 'the software will be updated, do not worry'. I was worried... Note that both companies are part of the Geely family, so the hardware is fully Chinese (and good) but the sofware isn't. And that's exactly the problem. So in the end I purchased a NIO EL6, and I can confirm the sofware is great and any user feedback is very swiftly taken onboard. To me, software is KEY to an EV. Cheers buddy, and keep rolling the way you do, it sets you apart from other YT-rs.

[@jedi-mt3]

Opposite to you I find it very loud in terms of road noise with the 22". Unless one find a newly made road, then its definitely quiet. But on Swedish rough roads due to all the spike tires, often patched, the car is amplifying the different surfaces, rather then filter them. Its like turning the volume switch on max/min back and forth when it drives over different gravel, smooth or a bit rougher.

[@Innaui]

I have no issues after system update. It holds the lane much better as it was before. It might be thirsty, but i consider make an extra stops for charge on the long trips. Still 🤍it.

[@T.H.O.R-77]

I love your reviews, even I think some of them are a little too critical (but cannot complain about that as you do a very good job of why you are coming to said conclusion). I love the looks of this car, but do you think is the big difference between the 3 and the 4 with regards to the SW issues you mentioned here?

[@thomassoderqvist4666]

Very valueble test. Been thinking about ordering a P4 but I will for sure wait and probably look at alternativet.

[@guppi7634]

Everyone is bashing the German carmakers for having software issues. Looks, the Chinese are doing worse. After the end of my Tesla leasing I would nevertheless check on a PS 3. I just really like the looks and the specs of the car

[@Jeroenneman]

What specs? I looked at one because Polestar offered huge discounts on the 2 and 4 for the company I work with. Looked up, and both don't get the range, charging or performance I'd expect.

[@BillB33525]

The car looks like it has a lot of promise. Good job pointing out the short falls of the car at this time. Try to get another sample when the SW has been improved.

[@KrisRifa]

For sure! I will closely follow the improvements of this car. And I am hoping they'll address these issues fast!

[@robert_l1989]

But why would you leave with less than 70% if your consumption on the way out was around 25kwh/100km? For 259km with that consumption you would at least need 68.8% (2.59*25/94) and that is the best case szenario. I know the SW predicted a 10% arrival, but it also said to charge to 89%...so maybe it knew what was comming... I am more disappointed that you can't run this down to 0%. Bsically 3-5% is the absosulte minimum, everything below I would consider a buffer. Had the same issue with my Volvo C40

[@tobias5360]

I totally understand the frustration about the ADAS-system, however I think it’s possible to compensate for it when you learned the issues. I’ve test drove the PS4 three times and I’m not at all that frustrated as you’ve been 😁 But of course we all want it to be better! Hopefully Polestar can update the system. About the estimated battery arrival I actually think google doesn’t have enough data about the car yet. This is only based on machine-learning, and it has to learn how much lower temperature and larger rims affect the consumption.

[@Mrc0llmY]

Hi, nice review ! Would you also test Smart#3 ? Geely platform with different ADAS supplier

[@T.H.O.R-77]

I love your reviews, even I think some of them are a little too critical (but cannot complain about that). I love the looks of this car, but do you think is the big difference between the 3 and the 4 with regards to the SW issues you mentioned here?

[@simonpetersen8896]

Is it possible to see the full excel spreadsheet?

[@gery4870]

It's not about the bugs of the ADAS... is how they are going to fix that thirsty consumption !! Horrible.... Otherwise, superb video and review Kris !!

[@teddysdadcory]

2.6 mi/kWh, in winter, is not that horrible. It’s not amazing, but not horrible. Also a winter range of 240 miles is decent. For a car this aerodynamic, though, I would like to see slightly better numbers, but they’re nowhere near dealbreakers. If that was the SUMMER range, though, it would give me some pause, especially in that $70-80k range

[@johntadley4323]

There are 2 different types of range displays the other is dynamic and shows a more realistic range . It’s in the settings. I’ve done about 1000miles so far and love it . I don’t have the autopilot though . It has some minor issues I hope will be fixed with an update

[@KrisRifa]

Range in the driver display was set to dynamic, but was not used as basis for range in this test. Only the navigation system was used for routeplanning.

[@leluyaa]

It's a shame because the car looks great! Saw one in real life the other day and man.. Back in the day we would've thought it was a Lambo or something 😁 But I'm not going back to bugs, I'm sticking to reliable German cars for now 👍🏼

[@alistermc6363]

Hi Kris, thank you for your content i enjoy it very much every time i watch it. As an owner of an Polestar 4 i don't think that you are to harsh. I drove in two months roughly 5500 km and the issues you mention i also experienced. I drive in germany rougly between 120 and 140 km/h. In october my consumption was 22 till 24 kwh now in novemeber i'm usualy by 28 kwh. I have an issue with the steering weel, so i'm not able to activate ACC or Pilot assist in over 90% of my drive time. I did an long trip of over 2000km and for the first 1000 km i had to drive it without the assistance. Regarding the HUD: yes sir, same with my car. Sometimes it deactivates and i cannot activate it. Usually it fixes during the next start. After installing the new software i'm really annoyed about the "feature" that deactivating line assist need a confirmation. Sometimes i need to do it quickly when i'm driving on within a lane that has both white an yellow markings. The car ist continuously fighting with me to adjust the lane and i cannot deactivating it quick, because some genius thought it is a wise idea to confirm the deactivation of line assist on an touch screen when the car is shaking due to the fight... I have the same opinion as you: I love the car, but i cannot recomend it in the current state. To many issues and a low efficiency.

[@somadama8425]

dual motor or single motor? wich tires? i tested both and the single motor seems to be much more efficient.

[@alistermc6363]

@@somadama8425 Single Motor 20 inch

[@alistermc6363]

@@somadama8425Single Motor, 20 inch Wheels. I‘ve looked on the Odometer and the average consumption on 5700 km is 22,5 kw/h On my last 80 km (mainly highway with 130 km/h - 140 km/h) is 28,1 kWh. That’s to much in my opinion in 2024.

[@alistermc6363]

@@somadama8425 A small update I drove right now 25,8 km non highway roads with an average speed of 45,7 km/h and my consumption was 19,8 kWh. I did the same way with the Model Y and my consumption was 16,3 kWh during the same weather conditions…

[@youtubebirdie]

driving a P4 with Performance Pack for a good 2 months now and can agree to most of the issues. Living in Switzerland, not a lot of high speeds, the average consumption over 5000km is 21.6Wh/100km. Regarding Pilot Assist, it‘s indeed a fight between man and machine 😅 I got used to it by just letting the P4 drive, without me correcting, then it‘s fine.

[@beanoyip06]

Just wait 2 yrs, this car will get better, just like the PS2.

[@poulpedersen5363]

Don't have anu bugs on my HUD w. P4.1.10 at all. the ADAS is a littel catious yes, but no other problems..

[@KrisRifa]

@@poulpedersen5363 great to hear! So your HUD works?

[@poulpedersen5363]

@@KrisRifa Yes, ever since the update to 1.10 it's been spot on. For the Nav as well, alway on target e. +/-3%, and my consumption is around 22-24 w. 0-5 degrees even w. performance pack, so tbh. I think it might be that specific model you have.

[@godofdun]

Oh man, talk about a rolling beta test. Hopefully those updates come sooner rather than later for owners sake.

[@eldalymorningstar]

I have a Polestar 2 LRSM 1st edition and never trusted the kms left on the PS screen. That's why I use ABR in the polestar which is, imho, more accurate and giving me a lot better predictions and where to recharge. A pity the PS4 is doing so bad at the moment because I was considering to switch to a PS4 the end of the year.

[@KrisRifa]

I have had more Polestar 2s on loan than I can count on two hands. I've also had three separate PS2 on long term loan and never had any issues trusting them. I can't remember other Polestar 4s being unreliable either when I comes to the route-planner. BUT, I have has problems with another SEA car, the Volvo EX30 though.... coincidence?

[@noleti]

do you use ABRP in the android automotive as native app? I found it to be barely usable. I used to use ABRP with my kia soul via android auto all the time and it worked well enough, but I've given up on it in my polestar. The km prediction on the PS2, on the other hand, is pretty good imho (depending on my speed on the Autobahn). Do you use the "default" km prediction, or the "adaptive" one?

[@eldalymorningstar]

@@noleti I use it on the console in the car. I have the subscription one. I plan my trip on the abrp mobile and it syncs to the abrp on the console. The console itself is very slow. In general I drive with Waze and use ABRP for where best to recharge and for how much. My presets are 25% minimal and 90% max with fastest a to b inclusive recharging. Presets of tank-cards are in it too and it also predicts how busy it is at a recharging station as well as actual availability. I use the adaptive one of the PS2 but ABRP is more accurate than the PS2 one. But maybe it's just my PS2 LRSM because mine is from the 1st batch and I have had several software issues after updates due to it being different than the batches afterwards, which they then often have to fix in a next update or even 2 times at the dealers garage for a special update.

[@noleti]

@@eldalymorningstar thanks for the reply. Yes, slowness was my main issue with ABRP (also w/ subscription) on the console for me.

[@mikaelskoglund373]

Could it be that it is set for smaller wheels and therefore shows completely wrong? Was interesting with the same test without performance

[@KrisRifa]

But this car isn't set for smaller wheels? These are what the car comes with from factory it being the LR DM Performance.

[@brandy223344]

@@KrisRifa I don´t think that is a correct answer, i think that the range problems is in fact to do with the 22 inch tires and also that Google has something to do with this to

[@KrisRifa]

@@brandy223344 so you think Polestar spent years developing a car and didn’t calibrate the route planner in their Performance version that comes standard with 22” wheels? 😅🙈

[@brandy223344]

@@KrisRifa I think that the car can´t tell the difference yes!!! EVERY body who changes to bigger tires knows it will affect the range except you maybe and i think that the sw in polestar 4 definitely doesn´t know the difference. And they have nothing to do with google map except using it in their cars

[@KrisRifa]

@ sorry mate but you are completely wrong. First of the difference in bigger wheels is only 6% in rolling distance, that could easily be corrected for giving the Performance version this information from factory. The difference in departure and arrival % was 13%, twice what the wheels alone should count for. So that doesn’t even come close to explaine the discrepancy. Considering the Performance version comes with these wheels from factory I think it is highly unlikely they wouldn’t correct for this. Cars like the Taycan you have manually enter the wheel sizes after changing them so the car knows. So this is very common. The route planner bases its calculations on the info the car gives about it along side weather and traffic data. The issues here is the calibration, but that the car doesn’t get all the information. It’s the prediction that is off.

[@Danpet88]

Well, all of the issues you address is SW related and will most likely be solved with one or more SW updates, i would be more worried if you had complained about the HW not being good. It was the same with the P2 in the beginning, alot of SW problems but it ended up as a good car, so will this.

[@KrisRifa]

I am hoping you are right sooner than later, because I do love this car....

[@Danpet88]

@@KrisRifa You have to remember that Polestar is a very small brand, it is even smaller than Zeekr, even though they are part of Geely , that is not an excuse to send out shit , but to think that they can fix all the SW issues as quickly as for example the VW group is not realistic. I agree that they should provide a SW that is more ready then they did during the release of the car , but i have no doubt that the majority of the issues will be fixed.

[@janedman]

I ordered the polestar 4 but thanks to you i cancelled it in time thanks, its looks to bad as the Fisker ocean

[@timessix8434]

Even though it seems Polestar/Geely has done a bad job with this SW, I’m starting to think - maybe, just maybe, we should start DRIVING our cars again… Not just sitting passively in the seat, letting the SW drive…? Why not put the human back into action? Just a thought 😊

[@thecliff4838]

Kinda hard to drive when you're out of battery.

[@patrick7228]

Holy cow. To cost that amount of money and get such an awful review, really bad for Polestar.

[@bmomosaik]

when you drive like a .... you get these kind of results. when you know your further away then the car says it can go and you still want to push your luck... this is all user error. the car battery and software will take time for the car to have real data for how far it can go.

[@KrisRifa]

Sorry dude, none of what you wrote made any sense. Do you want to try that again? Either way, the car said we were gonna arrive at our destination with 10% battery left, but we had to abort the trip when we were 17km away only having 1% and 4km remaining energy. At the end the car said we'd arrive with -3%, so a whopping 13% less than what the car predicted 258km from its destination. How is what user error? I mean, how? Futhermore, I have done this trip more than 100 times on camera in close to 100 different electric cars. It's not like this test is unique, special or different. All cars go trough this same test, and this failed in many things. Including not be able to predict anywhere close to accurate how much energy the car would use. "the car battery and software will take time for the car to have real data for how far it can go" Take time? So I should have stopped somewhere along the trip so the car could gather its thoughts and get its shit together? hahaha!

[@youtubebirdie]

@@KrisRifa driving the p4 performance for over 5k km now, battery prediction was always +/- 3% off, most of the time I arrive with more capacity left than predicted. Something seems to be off here… even today in a full snow storm (was fun 🎉) I arrived with 1% more than predicted 💪🏼

[@KrisRifa]

@@youtubebirdie that great, and that is my experience with the other Polestar 4 I had back two ago. I drove that car 3K km and it was a dream. This car though, not so...

[@youtubebirdie]

seems to be hit and miss…

[@johnminshall242]

Great, honest video. PS4’s obviously been rushed through and isn’t quite ready, software wise! They’re repeating the early ID mistakes. Personally, I don’t get PS4. PS3 yes… a 5-seat, cheaper version of EX90. For me, PS2 is still hard to better; if I was in charge, I would have developed that range with a lwb estate, and maybe a 2-door coupé. The 2 range could be really expanded and Polestar sales increased without the massive new model development costs of the new 4.

[@wesleywitteveen]

It behaves the same as the Zeekr001 also horrible

[@RandomYoutuber234]

So in summary, great mechanical machine, unfinished and buggy software all around.

[@KrisRifa]

@@RandomKZbinr234 spot on!

[@Lorwildrose]

This video makes me happy, my Mach e is great compared to some of the recent other companies cars. Most of the features work great and seem to be getting better.

[@KrisRifa]

Yeah, you make a very good point! Mach-E was one of my favourite EVs of 2021. A very underrated car IMO!

[@darville7521]

* Too many problems… Please edit! .

[@Innaui]

Edited to a Disaster 😂

[@KrisRifa]

@@Innaui yes hahaha!

[@gianlucaparodi]

@kris how can you Love this car? Come on!!

[@markus6635]

By a car for disabel people, if you can't drive with the hands on the steering. This autopilot stuff what ever, its not safe. Some need all kinds of shit, Im surprise that they even can open a door.

[@leluyaa]

I'm here for the comments, thanks Kris 😂

[@KrisRifa]

Hahaha! Me too! 🤣🤣

[@siegson]

Total disaster? You don't even know what that is.

[@KrisRifa]

@@siegson yes I do…

[@sampsalol]

You know Polestar is gonna blacklist you because you're telling the truth about their shitty software.

[@bradg7373]

Polestar software is the worst. I have a P2. Never trusted the software for lane centering because it always pulled to the center line. Backup camera constantly fails. I can’t imagine it not failing in the 4 which would be a disaster. HIRE PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO DEVELOP SOFTWARE FOR CARS.

[@KrisRifa]

I totally disagree, because Polestar 2 and 4 are on different platforms and run on different hardware and software. I have driven more Polestar 2s that I can count on two hands, and have had three cars on long term loan over one and a half year. I a have no issues with the Polestar 2 when it comes to tech or SW at all.

[@TimStruijs]

BS, I'm driving the P2 for over 4 years and it works very well on Pilot Assist in terms of lane keeping.

[@brandy223344]

Polestar have now outsourced their software development to Mumbai India so hopefully the software will improve in the near future