Porsche 911 GT2 RS vs Carrera video

[@jordanberry4824]

Worth half a Million now!!!!!!! And probably the best and fastest Porsche made to date! I know it's my favorite car on the planet!

[@FlashManinSpace]

All you GTR fanboys bow down to your lord and master. The Porsche GT2..... RS!

[@vivalaphill]

but the GTR is...well crap

[@ayrtonatif572]

And everyone plz puke on the gtr

[@FlashManinSpace]

Sniff.. I'm so happy. I thought I was the only one.. the only one that hated that piece of shit ugly ass GTR. You're all beautiful people.

[@HouseOfPetrol]

+Flash Man i think if you say something like that "ugly ass piece of shit gtr's..blabla" you're not really a car enthousiast..i like and appreciate all cars! Every car has its ups and downs! I dream of both the gt2rs and the gtr! But also every other sports/supercar...you have to appreciate all of they're technology and r&d and desigsn's..offcourse one can like one more than an other,but to say you hate it and its shit and all that? I dont know...

[@stillsearching1284]

Ten years ago when these cars were new, the Nissan GTR was less than half the price of the Porsche 911 GT2RS. A more apt comparison would be the GTR vs the 997 911 Turbo. Those two cars were roughly equal in performance. Even then, the 911 Turbo was more expensive, so an even more apt comparison would be the GTR Spec V vs the 911 Turbo S. I have never seen those two cars compared, probably because the Spec V was only sold in Japan. Today, the 992 911 clearly outshines the twelve year old R35 GTR. Nissan needs to come out with the R36 soon in order to be relevant in the supercar market again.

[@sjpampling]

I'm not particularly a Porsche fan, but the GT2 RS especially in black looks stunning and super aggressive

[@NeilMagill]

True, however the 0-60 gives some idea as to how a car can get its power down... Although it means a little less these days, as its easily tweaked to sell cars (to a point).

[@Manzancene]

Its obvious that Jamie is having a great time in that car!! =D Nice comparison! Nice job! Ans since I don't want a race car for an everyday use, I'll stay with the Carrera for myself, please! :)

[@orangeorphan]

amazing car! been waiting for autocar to get hold of one of these. you are my fav car show. could've gone into a bit more detail but that's just me.

[@th3dogkid]

at the beginning that drift was amazing

[@jcb8505]

That is by far the best 911 to date but i do love the new GT 3 RS too. With the grills in the front fenders....nasty!!

[@ilmelangolo]

The difference in the 0-150 mph drag race is just unbelievable!!!!!

[@militiamc]

@112namrepus Yes comparison with the GT3, GT3 RS, or Turbo S would make sense. Preferably on a dry track. I don't know how much it costs to lease the car, pay the insurance, and film these videos, but I think the guys at Autocar should do some more GT2 RS vs. comparisons

[@sutats]

GT2 RS cars appear to have appreciated in value quite nicely.

[@TheBehemod]

@benpowellfforddlas i think this is because the use LEDs in the rear lights and to save power consumption they power the LEDs around 100 times per second. With the naked eye you can't see it but trough a camera you see it flashing. Its just the same as you point a camera at a old computer monitor or tv screens.

[@subzerostorm]

@eeeen321 lol well said by you to. the awd drive turbo really is just an absolute bomb shell! It just seems to be able to destroy every car and never seems to try and look over the top like a lambo, quietely confident. They raced it against one of our australian touring V8 supercars, turbo was leading first half of the lap, then fell down on gear ratio difference. Do u think the turbo could really beat the gt2rs cause of the awd?

[@JunkieJay3000]

Might just be me, but Jamie Castorphine comes across as a really competent and likeable presenter, along with Steve Sutcliffe. If only they had Chris Harris back, they could rival that programme on the BBC as a serious - but entertaining alternative. Keep up the good work Autocar, and I'll keep renewing my subscription : )

[@tennisguy96]

I would do anything for this car, I swear one day I will own a GT2 RS

[@FizzyMotors]

you can tell from the the title of this video that it's from another time. but the car featured in the video is still very relevant today.

[@DumpValvesAndDnB]

@JunkieJay3000 i agree. this is possibly the best performance car review i have ever seen

[@walperstyle]

How does the 2014 Carerra stack up against the 2010 GT2 ??

[@BenPowellDrummer]

Why do the Carrera's rear brake lights flash as it drove away? I've seen this a lot on German cars.... can anyone fill me in?

[@alexandervanwyk7669]

simply the best, wet or dry. Requires a proper driver though.

[@hunghuge12]

From a physics point of view the engine in the 911 is actually in the best place. It's the hardest layout to harness as it lends itself to knife edge handling at the limit but technically the best.

[@Supcharged]

is the carrera with pdk or did it use launch control?

[@charlesholzy]

@saxaza97 and what you would have at the end of the day is still a Carrera that probably still isn't as quick as a GT2 RS. And even if it could match it in a straight line, which I doubt, it would still corner like a Carrera. Wouldn't you rather just save up for a bit longer until you get that 20k then buy a GT2 RS or something awesome

[@brocky]

@ZNOLMT That should be a fun comparison. Both are epicly fast and both have the same DNA but different purposes.

[@wokemorty727]

@edoloman24 umm because its made for the track with balance in mind, not just a science experiment to see how much power can be squeezed out of the motor....it doesn't have turbos so the power and torque distribution through the rev range is more linear...driving this car will definitely be harder to get all that power down and not lose control where as the gt3 rs 4.0 will be like a race car, i guarantee the gt3 will be like glue around the same corners where this car would spin out...

[@johndegiulio7319]

What is the name of this song @ 7seconds? Its amazing. I work for Porsche, and the GT cars are simply stunning.

[@DissidentCitizen]

@frank3c03 All 911's use a Flat 6, not a V6. Hence the boxer wail.

[@sidhucer00789]

hows the regular 2 or 2s in the rain?

[@ratmtbola]

@vvysoc 3 seconds are actually a huge number in racing, especially on such a short track like in this video.

[@TheCarLife]

I fail to see why this comparison is based on the price difference. The price difference between these cars is irrelevant. Why you might ask? Simple. The GT2RS is a car that will be purchased by someone who can afford it. Someone who is going to drop that much money really doesn't care about the price. You're paying for prestige and exclusivity in that price range. The 911 on the other hand is a car that is attainable to your average enthusiast. Both cars meet different segment needs. Period.

[@lordcoombs]

@TheBehemod I thought they flash under hard braking, so drivers behind are alerted and aware. I heard about Mercedes putting this in their cars a few years ago, where the brake light was meant to be a brighter or stronger red under hard braking.

[@KevinChoi]

Carrera to GT3 RS is made smart engineers in Germany, the GT2 and the GT2 RS is made by MADMAN... I JUST LOVE IT!!!

[@cardude1992]

911 GT2 RS vs 599 GTO vs LP670-4 SV vs ZR1 on a dry day with a proper racing driver and similar tires. I would wet myself for that one :D Thumbs up if you would too

[@paladain55]

@rxs10000 yeah. i definitely know what you mean. i live in America, you're about 10,000x more likely to see a corvette than a gt2rs. Ive only seen one in a gray color. it was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MrKrezz]

Youre right, the most important is from 50-150 i would say.

[@MathewBMW]

@flimper1 I agree. It's like to compare a E90 325i with a E92 M3 DCT.

[@DocHavoc0512]

the beginning drift was EPIC

[@hesh2]

Whats the song playing in the background during the comparison

[@kshahab6]

the ceramic brakes that porsche offeres really puzzle me. the base carrera has porsche's lowly black coloured brakes. while the carrera s has the better red brakes. the gt2 rs has the $9000 ceramic brake option and it only stops 3 meters shorter than the carrera. this can only mean three things. 1. the ceramic brakes are not worth the money 2. the base carrera's brakes are already above par 3. if you do actually pay for the yellow brakes you're most likely paying for the yellow calipers.

[@12389h]

@mkampinga Judging by laptimes the Spec-V hasn't really been put through it's paces.

[@subzerostorm]

@dailyforman Hmm thats raw engine sound. Porsche dont use noise changing exhaust. Its their signature

[@JETZcorp]

@Truemoderate $100,000 for a base Carrera? What have you been smoking? The Porsche website right now cites the base Carrera as having a starting MSRP of just over $77,000. The first car in the 911 line that goes six-digit is the Carrera S Cabriolet, and the first hard-top to cross the hundred-thousand mark is the Carrera GTS. A good half of the Porsche 911 range starts under $100,000 and while that may very well go up with their infamous options list, it'd be hard to get a $100k Carrera 2.

[@speedenforcer918]

It should be GT2 RS vs Carrera GT.Although the GT has a V10 and the GT2 a V6,they roughly have 612+ BHP.They're both made from light materials,both RWD and both can reach 200+ MPH,they are both neck and neck =)

[@MeisterYodarkus]

@AlexDeLarge90 Here you are right, too. When you buy a Porsche you also have to pay for the brand and its successes in motorsports. A bit like these expensive apples on some computers. ;)

[@theGoogol]

Nice test :) Thanks! (saving money for the 2013 Lotus Elise, though ... I can't afford a GT2)

[@AndrewTilston]

The line the two drivers are taking through the corners is completely different.... whoever was driving the regular 911 wasn't even trying (or has no skill)... not an even comparison ... still a great glimpse of the GT2 RS's amazing attributes though. What a car!!

[@bond1011]

@GR3B3N yeah and because of that the designers of the corvette are thinking of making it mid-engined...which will kill off the corvette in my opinion

[@sherman3211]

I dont think people in the UK are sure what system to use most of the time. I'm from Canada and it's the same way there, a mix of both systems.

[@Dooger111]

Other than the 993 turbo, this gt2 is the best looking Porsche I have ever seen

[@MeisterYodarkus]

What a great discussion about the GTR and the GT2 RS. Why don't you compare teh laptimes? Let's see how fast they are on the Nordschleife: GTR: 7:38 GT2 RS: 7:24 Looks like the Posche owned the japanese toycar.

[@mkampinga]

@12389h the GT-R has satnav, 11 stereospeakers with subwoofer etc dont forget to mention stuff like that :p also got the GT-R specv btw

[@KILLINGTIMEONUTUB3]

gt2 rs or gt3 rs ?

[@Andrei3646]

@justforwatchingcraps in fact, the GT3 and the GT2 are from the 997 series..

[@fadethetrade]

Porsche 2012 4.0 gt3 is the best car under $180,000.If I was worth a few mil,it would be the first thing I would order tomorrow!

[@Le.K]

@RamboLambo002 The problem is the aerodynamics. And also business contract with mercedes.

[@TangoR34]

@Towelman20 So right. No matter how much better the GTR is in numbers. Porsche Engineering is always the best!

[@y0057]

I love the GT2 a lot but I genuinely thought it will destroy the humble base car. But Twice as fast and cost more than 3 times the price. I’d take the Carrera and be happy if I took the GT2 based on this test at nearly 4 times the price of the Carrera, I’ll feel like I was robbed!

[@OneGuitarGuy]

I would wait a bit, and pick up a GT2 RS at a police impound auction for pennies on the dollar after the previous owner was imprisoned for a record breaking speeding ticket.

[@SwonzX]

@rxs10000 I saw one too, on my Birthday. I was in Downtown, Vancouver walking to a building then I saw this beautiful silver GT2 RS and couldn't keep my eyes off it. Too bad the GT2 RS is extremely limited -.-

[@vvysoc]

@ratmtbola yea if it is your carreer to race but not to just own even on track days once in a while...but yea it is a big diffrence in long run

[@sanjoriot]

gt2 rs vs gt3 rs?

[@PACKyourSHITfolks420]

I wonder why 0-60 is so important. I should think acceleration while you're already moving would mean more in the real world.

[@47ambrose42jpm]

Epic powerslide at the begining and end

[@TheGreatXanadu]

I liked the beginning!

[@michaelquigley9719]

true you pay for what you get but for 90% of the drivers and 98% of the time the base 911 is all that you need unless you just want to take it to the track and race it which even takes ore bucks as the wear and tear of tires among everything else.

[@vvysoc]

if the weight to power is almost double the carrera and the diffrence is 3 sec around track..i could use the extra 100 grand and use it that is more usefull in real life

[@jcb8505]

If i could have any car on earth it would be the GT 2 RS! I just don't know what color i would choose black, silver, red?? Maybe silver!

[@ZNOLMT]

I'd like to see a comparison of the GT2 RS vs. the Turbo S. According to the numbers, the Turbo S gets faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, with less power but how does that translate to the track? Is the GT2 quicker around a track. Is it worth giving up the plush interior for better track numbers? Or would it be better to get the Faster-in-a-straight-line 911 with full luxury??

[@matty2k001]

@rxs10000 I heard that in real life they really do sound very similar to a jet fighter, good observation. :D

[@vagrantr]

that drift was sick

[@TheCarVlogger]

Never in my life did I think a normal 911 would seem slow...

[@KingCotton-8]

incredible machines!

[@stasis211]

On a track you only do a launch maybe once (if your actually racing) in the real world you stop all over the place, and i find myself quite often in a street light started drag race.

[@gianluca66650]

Please the name of the song?when start the video.thak you

[@MagicAyrtonforever]

I'd have both Carrera PDK for weekdays and GT2RS for weekends :-)

[@Kheops63]

@kshahab6: First, you have to understand that Porsche brakes are one of the best (if not the best!) there is!! So, improving the braking distance by 50cm is already very difficult!! So, 3m is huge!!!! But, most of all, braking is more about feeling and durability than about braking distance! And for this purpose, the ceramic brakes are virtually undestructible!! (in the reality, you have to change them if you practise track very often and very hard) And last thing, they are much more lighter!

[@mattyoz0]

@speedenforcer918 What V6? it's a flat six.

[@Duron13]

So a more powerful and more sporty version of a 911 is faster than a standard 911. Now then it is quite the info you've got there.

[@AlexDeLarge90]

@MeisterYodarkus There's a simple explanation for that. It is called "the price of a brand". Levi's can charge more for their jeans despite them not being better qualiwise than many other brands. Harley Davidson were nowhere near the qualitylevels of japanese motorcycles in the 80's and 90's (and not now either), but since it was a Harley they could still charge a higher price. A Rolls Royce Silver Spirit wasn't three times better than a Mercedes S-class, but it was a Rolls Royce!! Get it??

[@6fandres]

5:08 very nice drift!!!!!

[@eeeen321]

@subzerostorm well said. It was a rather pointless review, I was confused why they did not grab a gt3?? the base Carrera is on the opposite end of the 911-spectrum, which I don't consider a comparable test at all. : \ I would have even been more please with the awd 911turbo; the awd turbo would have more than likely out lapped the gt2rs. Re-race with a gt3, or even a gt3rs VS. the gt2rs (with a dry track)

[@TangoR34]

There we go again and again! Every video with either Porsche, Corvette or GTR will just have other fanboys bashing and talk crap about each other. I'd love to debate about the GTR but because I love a Porsche alot I won't other wise people will get the wrong idea.

[@ChrisToddRed]

People love talking about how the engine is in the wrong place on 911's at one point in time that might have been a reasonable argument...one thing you cant argue with is a 7:18 around the Nurburgring. aka faster than any road ferrari, lamborghini, pagani, maserati, mercedes, bmw, audi, ford, and chevrolet. Sometimes wrong can be right i guess

[@JunkieJay3000]

@kaimelis lol.. That's because Top Gear's an entertainment show, broadcast by one of the largest television networks in the world! They don't do constructive, impartial reviews. When Top Gear's been going for over a hundred years, your point may have some substance. In the meantime, please don't bother replying to me with your petty, pointless argument. Thank you, take care & have a nice day :)

[@Le.K]

Yeah, from that point of view, you're right

[@eeeen321]

@tikrik78 lol, no, not on a "dry Nurburgring". I agree 100% with that; thats why I said "on a track where the gt2rs is just spinning", But I should have just said, "On a short, curve-tastic track".... The dry Ring', THAT is where the GT2rs would FLY!!!!!!!!

[@wokemorty727]

i would def have the 911 gt3 rs 4.0...best 911 so far

[@lejink]

You measure speed in miles/hour but distance in meters? What gives?

[@XXLVenom999]

Why to they blame that poor Carrera? It is very good, too!

[@marshknute]

I'd still take a Cayman S over these two. The GT2 RS is too extreme to use on the road and the Cayman has been proven to handle better than the 911's thanks to its mid-engine layout.

[@Tubleros]

You should have made a dogfight between the GT2 vs the GT2 RS.

[@Viking445]

Its a measure of torque and grip.

[@ratmtbola]

@militiamc I doubt that Autocar has to lease the car. They get free press cars from Porsche to do their reviews.

[@militiamc]

Why would anyone compare a GT2 RS to a simple BASE Carrera? Instead, compare it to the GT3 or maybe the GT3 RS?

[@lamborgboy]

@nakayama3d What about the ferrari 458 For the same money as the gt2 rs and you get all the luxuries

[@KevinChoi]

Carrera ~ GT3 RS is made by the smartest engineer, the GT2 RS is made by a 5 year old.... I LOVE IT!!!

[@MusicAnimeNSX]

I don't think so. With more than 200 HP shy and two and half times the weight, F1 cars will simply kill it. F1 will not allow it because Porsche is not participating in F1.

[@TheBrokenEclipse]

@ultimatefang007 I agree - but then you would sadly never ever get any presents for Christmas ever again. You would simply be to naughty the rest of the year!

[@RamboLambo002]

No, the GT2 RS couldn't be the F1 Safety car, because a lot of F1 team will protest against that, because the RS would be faster than their own F1 machines!

[@subzerostorm]

A bit of a stupid review, although i love these cars.The gt2 RS is definately worth the extra 100k. Your buying pretty much a fully fledge race car with blinkers and a number plate. Its got ceramic brakes, wider body, stiffer chasy, better tyres, better aerodynamics and thats not even including the engine. The engine is putting out 600 somthing bhp where are the carrera 300 something bhp, twice the P2Weight. They are both beautiful cars but not in the same league. better cayman vs carrera.