Porsche 992 GTS Lightweight Pack: Stealth GT3? First drive!

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

First drive was a race to the airport through those tight roads, Jamie in the passenger seat, and Porsche waiting for us to arrive! GTS got us there, and what fun it was!! 😈 Can’t wait to drive it for an extended stint in the U.K. reckon a lightweight/manual car is an 80% GT3 touring…

[@drstevej2527]

It’s a turbo meaning it’s numbers are easily that of a RWD GT3.

[@asmirserifovic9851]

Does the 4 GTS have a much better sound than the 4S ?

[@adamgoodman5887]

Yeah BUT The engine is in the wrong place.

[@drstevej2527]

@@brianhimmelman420 On what planet is a Tesla fast around an actual track? There is a reason why the best 911 model is introduced last!

[@drstevej2527]

@@brianhimmelman420 Since only a tiny % of 911 drivers ever track their cars it’s very important. A GT3 is absurd as a daily driver unlike a GTS. I’ve owned three 911 models and in the modern world you own a GTS as your daily driver and you rent any number of other cars including a GT3 RS at tracks all over the county. I don’t know if this has become as popular in Europe as it is in America but here you can have it all. In a straight line a GTS is faster especially in AWD model. This is as close to racing as most owners get. Again there is a reason why the best 911 introduced in the line up is always the last. It’s widely considered to be the most balanced 991 of them all. Lastly he is ONE reviewer not the auto publication industry.

[@HawkMillFarm]

You do tech, design and detail better than anyone else. Great review.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Thank you!

[@JonTP007]

I watch a lot of automotive content on KZbin and your reviews are always head and shoulders above the rest. The production value is unparalleled. Your knowledge and passion are without question. Thank you for continuing to share your work with us. 👏🏁

[@anatolivashkevich3845]

This is probably the best 911 option. Great comfort and a lot of motorsport raw soul. More so than the turbo!

[@aviator-kn8zq]

They always say it's the sweet spot and this gen's GTS has tried to be more unique compared to a S. But I still find it a dressed up sportier variant. Gotta take your word for it Raz :)

[@feliper493]

Always the best videos, edits and info! You kill it Raz!

[@meetkendall]

So I've been thinking about several different versions of the new 992, and when you said, "I loved the Turbo S so much, I bought one", then I didn't need to watch any of your other videos...you drove them all, and settled on the Turbo S. Easy peasy lemon squeezie!

[@jonasirw1]

I agree 100%.. after driving all of them I’ve also come to the conclusion that the base carerra with a few options is the best car and best overall value.

[@williamayers4295]

Which options do you get?!

[@jonasirw1]

@@williamayers4295 20/21 S rims in platinum(darkened, not black), gt silver, premium package.. sports chrono (a must), black leather - heat/cooling.., Black Porsche +model numbers, exhaust tips. Heated steering wheel, My only regret is not upgrading the base seats to the 14-ways..Base seats are not comfortable at all..in fact they start to dig into my back on longer drives

[@williamayers4295]

@@jonasirw1 super thorough/great insight. I may get one eventually and it’s good to know from real owners. Thank you my friend.

[@drdoomgoat38]

Lotus Emira & Corvette C8 Stingray with z51 package are much better value

[@SylentONE]

@@drdoomgoat38 LoL

[@joshblackmun]

This was the review I’ve been waiting for 💪 I have a GTS allocation and will placing my order before year end (depending on supply chain issues). I’m on the fence for lightweight pack for theater and the 18-way in truffle for more daily comfort. I guess if I want something more comfortable I should just buy a base! This will be my first 911. Thanks for all the great content RBR 👏

[@adrianrivera8425]

You’ll enjoy the curves properly. Same for me ,just wait 3 years to get the 50% discount like at my server job lmfao

[@hankhoh]

Thanks so much for this review! Superb production value with terrific camera angles and knowledgeable insights - without a doubt the slickest video car reviews on KZbin with your incorporation of “special effects” from the digital department! Much appreciated 👍🏼

[@Coronerlex]

I had a Cayman GTS and I absolutely loved it. The GTS seems to be the perfect trim for the road.

[@Billywoo12]

928GTS was an all time great too! Great video!

[@WFO.]

Hello from the USA. I’ve chosen my spec for a ‘24 a 911 GTS Coupe. Still have time to change it. After watching your brilliant review, I’m thinking I need to scrap my choices and go all in on the light weight package and carbon ceramics. Crazy? I’ve selected: premium pkg, 18 way seats, rear steer and manual, upgraded lights and large fuel tanker. Appreciate people’s opinions. I’ll drive the car on weekends and occasionally to the office. Thank you

[@efthymiou]

Excellent review, I have 911 GTS Carrera in Agate Grey with Aerokit on order with Porsche East London, however lightweight package not available in the U.K at present they may update this before I lockdown my spec, hopefully I'll get my allocation in November with a March/April delivery. Thanks again for a fantastic review.

[@jstoli996c4s]

Agate Grey is gorgeous. My favorite is Carmine Red 😍

[@Fry_Plantain]

Your videos are so detailed and technical, yet still so easy to understand. Well done

[@MichaelCrum65]

Fantastic review. One of the best car reviews I've seen. Well done.

[@romanvice7232]

Appreciate the over-the-shoulder driving POV camera.

[@enyownz]

This dudes channel is way better than everyone else's. HOWW?????

[@themartins5771]

Great video again! As an owner of a 991.1 GTS RWD, I was disappointed you missed my car. I had a 997 GTS and the 991.1 was a big step on. I my opinion after driving the 991.2 (turbo car) it lost some of the appeal my NA car has. Still feels quick against modern turbo cars but with all that sound. Just thought I’d share this without being negative about your great content. Keep the great videos coming.

[@chriswilkinson8396]

What’s your opinion of the 997 GTS compared to the 991.1? My dad was very lucky to be in a position to get a GTS recently, a white 991.1 manual. We looked at 997s but like yourself, my Dad reckons the 991 is a step up in every way

[@themartins5771]

The 997 GTS was a great car. Classic looks. The 991.1 PDK in white with the aero kit is a family mans GT3 (I need the back seats for the kids on occasions). The biggest thing over the 997 is the noise. So much more noise from the 991 and personally I prefer the looks. I would say the 991.1 has some old school but some new as well. Perfect. 128k as my spec for a 992 is so much money as well. One day maybe as I do think is a move on from the 991.2. 👍

[@chriswilkinson8396]

@@themartins5771 ah interesting. I haven’t driven any of them, however I kinda think that in the future the 997 and 991.1 will be loved more. The turbo models obviously won’t date as badly as current hybrid cars, but I feel the the NA 911s have this purity that will keep them in our hearts forever.

[@tonykono5225]

Center lock bottle opener! That’s dope!

[@richardclegg5853]

That python green... WOW!!!

[@davidkn]

Finally a decent GTS review, the others have been pathetic, you at least know the car! I have a GTS convertible RWD on order to replace my 991.2, amazing car, and cant wait for the replacement

[@theprepperrevelator]

Congrats!

[@mashsyed9808]

I have a 991.2 GTS RWD...had a 991.1 S before this, world of a difference. The 991.2 GTS is the best car I have ever owned. Not sure if its necessary to get a GT3 or Turbo? I struggle with that.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Thanks buddy! It’s going to be great

[@edmasoud2826]

I live in California here in the US. I want to order one as well a couple of questions if you don't mind. 1. Will dealership take orders based on your specs? Meaning I went to Porsche's website and the only other thing I want to add to the base model is the premium package. 2. Are dealerships charging MSRP? 3. How long is the delivery/wait time? Thanks for your help.

[@davidkn]

@@edmasoud2826 I am based in the UK, so not easy to answer really. You can create a spec on the configuration and it gives you a code you can then give to your dealer. We don’t have the concept of a dealer being able to charge over what the manufacturers recommended price is, that whole concept in the US sounds awful. I think if you order one now you are looking at may/June time next year? Will depend on what allocations the dealer has, they all get varying amounts, and will depend on whether you want coupe, convertible or targa too. Worth the wait though!

[@drewmorg.]

It's gotta be the Python Green with the black GTS badging for me!!! MY WORD!

[@bittertruth0000]

If I have to buy one I will be buying the GTS Targa with Manual 👌.

[@msha1khy]

targa is only 4wd mate

[@aghowrath]

Great review..humble, focused, passionate and a cut above

[@m_gatsby]

These 992 numbers are supercar territory !

[@mohammedseedat4453]

Best review so far!!! You a legend!!

[@Nilamrainudeen1957]

I am very attracted to your reviews.Keep it up

[@cd1168]

What a car. What a review

[@timecrook1003]

Passion can never be a job. Cant wait for the GT4RS

[@tonistoned8565]

So many models, can't see differences anymore.

[@tool8337]

I have always loved the gts. I might be looking into one in the next 3 or so years. Might even go back to the 997 or 991 gen, havent decided yet. I think I would miss the sound of the naturally aspirated engines, but the interiors and look have come a long way in the 992. The other car that I am torn between is the AMG gt

[@romanvice7232]

The AMG GT rides rougher than many expect. Make sure you drive it before making the decision. It's also more like riding a wild beast versus the "extension of your body" sensation of the Porsches.

[@amiller2121]

Great review. Personally, I think that black stone guard behind the door looks ghastly and wouldn't spec it no matter how effective it is. I'd install a clear one if it came down to it.

[@jak493]

I actually prefer the black version. The original turbos had the black shark fin effect stone guards which really added to its appearance. For me it breaks up the car and works with the black mirrors. Each to their own I suppose.

[@X50505]

@@jak493 I agree, it's an iconic and historic 911 look.

[@7.3gss]

I think a clear stone guard would look weird, kinda like how clear mouth retainers look weird in somebody mouth

[@amiller2121]

@@7.3gss You can barely notice it honestly. It's like paint protection film.

[@7.3gss]

@@amiller2121 True

[@davida2653]

you are producing very good films.

[@Stonefactor]

What about the tire road noise due to the stripped sound dampening and thinner glass?

[@Superdada]

007 SM Pro looking 🔥

[@kidomark3819]

Hey nice watch 😍

[@richardwatts6653]

I’,m waiting for my 2wd Gts lightweight to arrive 🇬🇧, I went for manual instead of Pdk to be more connected 👌😍

[@JC-qf1jd]

Loving the look of that crayon gts as well

[@acenonda4021]

That change-down @ 17:36 👌

[@enigmatwist6548]

Don’t get the lightweight pack, GTS is best as an allrounder you can use as a daily, touring and for fun. This is especially true with the 992 as the sport suspension is way too firm for general usage. Could be wrong but previous generations had softer suspension even with the sport pack fitted.

[@daviddiniz3058]

Sensacional o carro e as impressões ao dirigir do piloto. Parabéns ! Sou David, em Sao Paulo -Brazil

[@AlainSTO]

I really wish the lightweight package had the fixed wing.

[@salahdehina9733]

Can you get the light weight package not as a package but as individual options? I mean I'd like to have everything in the light weight package but I still wanna keep the back seats.

[@mrspaceman4889]

Love the Porsche GTS range although I think I would prefer a 992 C4S with the power kit. Same performance but better ride quality. Ps. I love your 007 Omega Seamaster! Beautiful watch.

[@davidkn]

you can spec the GTS with the standard 10mm higher PASM suspension as a non-cost option, no need to resort to going back to the S

[@dreich09]

Did you test yet without lightweight package?

[@amiller2121]

I am a bit confused about the lightweight package. On the Porsche site, you have an the individual option for "Lightweight and Noise Insulated Glass". Then when you look at the "Lightweight Package", which includes the "Lightweight and Noise Insulated Glass", it also includes "Reduced insulation/sound deadening". It seems those two features are at least partially canceling each other out (from a sound perspective)? Even though this review seems to indicate that the Reduced insulation/deadening makes the exhaust seem louder in the cabin.

[@rhysw3500]

Python green is an awesome color

[@maxthemaltesedog3597]

What a car 🔥🔥. Awesome review!!

[@OctaneAndAmmo]

Well done! You actually made me excited about this, more so than any other review.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

Pleasure!

[@ItsMe-ky1km]

loved it!! also very nice watch. the titanium vintage seamaster I reckon?

[@Rob02138]

Superb summary

[@guidonvanonder]

not sure what struck me the most.. quality of the editing or the 992 GTS 😄

[@beachboy0505]

Amazing graphics Great video 📹

[@RaGoCars]

Awesome 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@65waylone]

Great review also nice Omega Seamaster 007 watch I love that one

[@AmirKhan-xn3tg]

I was waiting for this quite a while

[@derrickyap4629]

Great review Raz. Wonderful car but not too keen on the standard central locking wheels and would have liked the option of standard wheels in jet black but that’s not in their configuration system. Will you be doing a comparison of an S vs GTS exhausts?

[@knick11695]

The configurator shows 2 non-center lock options for $0 extra if you prefer that

[@ghokhulan]

@@knick11695 correct with the spyder available in Matt black

[@knick11695]

@@ghokhulan those Spyder design will be my choice!

[@derrickyap4629]

@@knick11695 Thanks Nick, I saw that too. If I go for a 2S car, I will need to pay extra $ to upgrade to the RS (or other wheels) plus a further $ (almost the same) to colour it jet black. If I go for a GTS and ‘downgrade’ to a cheaper 2S wheel option, the cost of the car is not adjusted down. I think it’s fairer to a GTS buyer if Porsche then allows for the 2S to be coloured jet black at no additional cost to the buyer.

[@aidancoggins534]

In my dream 3 cars for sure.

[@yannick3822]

Magnifique Porsche 911

[@sapnupuas7271]

Hey Raz. My father wants to buy his first 911. Do you think the carrera 4 gts is worth the extra cash over the carrera 4s? Btw love your videos. Keep upt the great content!

[@307skylake7]

In my opinion, Yeah! Not only do they hold their value better, they’ll be better to drive since some of the special kit, and also (for me) looks absolutely amazing. However, both C4S and C4GTS are FANTASTIC vehicles. Also, the GTS will sound better because of standard sport exhaust, and all the performance goodies. No matter which 911 your dad gets, you’ll be happy! Awesome vehicles.

[@RemoveBeforeRace]

It’s a more emotional car, I think it’ll hold its value better too.

[@sapnupuas7271]

@@307skylake7 thanks for your advice 😄

[@307skylake7]

@@sapnupuas7271 anytime!

[@sirz258]

Need some advice, thinking of getting my first 911. I don’t think I can financially stretch to a gts. What would you opt for? I really do want the 992 model

[@ZurriyetBlogs]

i love N/A engine ! And sound

[@mohamedk519]

Would love to hear this with an after market exhaust.

[@7.3gss]

Yeah but not completely after market

[@magnustan841]

Don’t even need an aftermarket exhaust, just a back box job and you’re sorted. Look at what Shmee did with his 718 Cayman GT4

[@mohamedk519]

@@magnustan841 very true mate

[@briansingh1635]

wicked vid brother. Love the color.

[@andydufresne8034]

I watched this with auto-generated subtitles and for the exhaust sound it said "MUSIC."

[@seoulive8894]

great review~! having driven various models, what would you get between 992.1 S and 992.1 gts? currently own 992.1 2S but it is bit too comfy..... and afraid 911 might get 718 4.0 na treatment....

[@bimmeracing]

Good car. If u dont have a gt3 allocation

[@Speedking2022UK]

Great review as always love the 992 👍

[@Valetudochicago]

What do you think about this car versus the Carrera T which is also a Lightweight?

[@chanhyung88]

I wish they still let manual trans for the base car... That's the one I want. Base model with sports chrono and PSE and manual.

[@917knight]

Ignoring cost what is the best driving experience GTS light weight package or Turbo S The daily one car garage and no allocation?

[@normanwatson9056]

that's a sweet colour... ooooooooooo!

[@scurfawatches]

Great info, been waiting for this car for a while but now I’m not so sure, love the Omega by the way.

[@gregs8685]

When did you drive the 992 GT3 Touring?

[@PointShiftDrive]

if the 992 GT3 is a 10 in stiffness... how does the GTS 2WD coupe rate against the GT3?

[@retordwa9280]

How cool would it be if that folding part of the roof on a targa would be made out of carbon fibre? ...incl. insulation etc...

[@RobinSingh-lf3iq]

Great review, would you spec the 992 gts coupe with the front axle lift? Is there decent enough clearance otherwise?

[@SamAustin]

Mega car the GTS 👍

[@johnnyboy1586]

One thing they say about the GTS is the more usable torque in the mid range over the gt3

[@2010Bla]

Obvioulsy, because GTS has the 3.0 turbo while the GT3 has the high rev NA 4.0 litre. That is no surprise in any regard, just basic knowledge of the differences between naturally aspirated engines and turbocharged engines.

[@drzar8275]

RBR, Would you please let us know, GTS or AMG GTR/GTC? Which one is more exciting, more fun and better for daily driving with an occasional track day? I drove the 992 S and didn’t find it that exciting unless I was throwing it into a turn hard. The chassis was very balanced, but The engine was kind of underwhelming even though it was fairly fast. Is the GTS that much better than the S or Would the AMG GTR/GTC be more exciting? I have a lot of money riding on this as V8 AMG prices are rising in the US. Thank you

[@jeffhamler2609]

YEAH!!!

[@warpspeed9877]

It NEEDS orange calipers and an orange stripe on the mirror caps.

[@lucianomicale1099]

hi, i have a 991.2 gts, use it everyday and for a gt championship, definitively happy with it. I think is also still better than the actual 992 gts for lots of reasons but don't understand the point here...why get a 992 gts with light package, get a 992 gt3 touring instead, better value for money and is a gt3

[@gabrieldicesare1]

Depending on where you are, the gt3 touring isn’t available or has an insane premium. Downtown LA Porsche has one w/ a 125k premium over msrp. Even if you get an allocation they’ll still add 80k in premium

[@richardbower8707]

Does the light weight gts leave any room for a 992 T ?

[@highgrade18]

I'm new here,well after a long time until now got a question "did this guy always use variant in his vids b4 Covid? 😆 🤣 Info

[@stefanvlasceanu6261]

Hello! Do you think that in the future cars with gasoline and diesel engines will disappear from their production? I sincerely hope not! 😖😭

[@joshkitson7926]

Do these have no lift shift like the gt3?

[@rudik5496]

Good to see a blogger/tester with a genuine smile on their face! :-)

[@acenonda4021]

Great review Mate. They've really done a number on the exhaust note, hopefully the non-light weight pack will sound as great. From your initial impressions, this or the 718 GT4?

[@aviator-kn8zq]

both have the sound insulation, the rear seats dont make a difference in sound.

[@magnustan841]

That’s a tough choice. Most would say GT4, even though both that N/A engine and this turbo flat-6 sound very similar. I guess as good as the 911 is, it still can’t beat a mid-engined car.

[@brianhimmelman420]

One’s a daily driver … other is a track and weekend toy

[@saltlake6577]

I‘ll stay with my 991.2 4 GTS Cabriolet and 992 GT3. How about on handling the steering wheel the right way? The way how you drive the 982 is mire like a hipster. Thx

[@SRG7796]

Hi RBR, what you think about pdk on GTS, did you drive 7spd? Thanks

[@asmirserifovic9851]

Does the 4 GTS have a much better sound than the 4S ?

[@geoffrey8063]

Ordered my Targa gts but still have to pick the color, any suggestions? I always liked black...

[@drzar8275]

Green.

[@nigelk780]

I went 997 GTS manual and now current 991.2 GTS PDK. I dont get lightweight pack idea as it loses the GTS middle ground knocking on the door to closely of a GT3 and probably as quick in a straight line but with all the GT3 useability compromises. So I would have a old mans kitted GTS 2wd or just move to a GT3. Unlike the leap from 997 to 991 Im not feeling the 992 at the moment but maybe that will change. I will stick.

[@joekarnes3943]

So, I have a question for everyone here. Do we all feel that Porsches are getting too expensive? I've owned 4 of them in my time and I've only purchased 1 brand new. I was considering a 992 model this year, but can't believe the base price on the S and GTS models. Also, are these supercars? Optioned up with normal equipment, they're in supercar price territory.

[@drzar8275]

Yes they are definitely starting to become too expensive especially when you consider all the options you have to get because not much comes standard compared to other cars.

[@pedrowhite911]

Although prices are in super car territory, at least for the GT3 and GT3RS, I would take one over a comparable Lamborghini or Ferrari. Drive them back to back against a F8 or Huracan Evo RWD, and I think you will come away with the same opinion-GT3 or RS all day, everyday!

[@themartins5771]

My 997 GTS was 65k, 991.1 was 95k and if I order a 992 GTS, 129k 😬😳. The official dealer will only offer me 50k for my 991.1. Is mine over a 992 worth near 80k???

[@drzar8275]

@@themartins5771 here in the states a used. 991.1 GTS is worth about $130-150k. You should get another quote for your car. I don’t think the 992 is worth 80k more than yours.

[@themartins5771]

@@drzar8275 thanks for your reply. Agree totally and they will put it on the forecourt for 80k. Not sure if anyone else with a car that is above ‘book’ like say a GT3 has the same issue. Trade in value v price on the windscreen.

[@wass006]

Still waiting for the M5 CS video captain

[@TheCryptoSniper]

PP2 GTS or GT3 touring?

[@diplomacy2000]

I think the standard front spoiler on the S and Turbo looks better.

[@gregs8685]

I love the base Carrera too but it needs a manual transmission option!