Porsche 997.1 Turbo Review - The Last Old School 911 Turbo?

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I'm a 911 fan, through and though - but my last experience of a turbo-powered Porsche was very disappointing. I drove the brand new 992, and it left me thoroughly cold. Today I'm driving a decade old 911 "Turbo" - from the first generation of 997. The old 996 turbo I couldn't fall in love with, but is this any better?
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@garyb2392
@garyb2392 3 жыл бұрын
Dude is a less expensive version of Jeremy Clarkson! His comfortable talking, vocal rhythm while driving is impressive! I don’t know if he’s doing this as hobby or is his profession…either way I’m impressed
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
James' 992 review is the best I've seen - someone actually criticising a new Porsche. Unheard of.
@tomevans5934
@tomevans5934 5 жыл бұрын
Yes too right
@Vonstroke
@Vonstroke 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely.
@ellaniostheos
@ellaniostheos 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't criticize, he just mentioned that the 997 has an oldschool feeling? that the 991 and maybe the 992 has not
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
@@ellaniostheos See his review on the 992: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmfPap-IebWsba8
@stefanfreestylez
@stefanfreestylez 5 жыл бұрын
Now hes probably band from buying thier special cars!!!!! :^(
@sammyh9542
@sammyh9542 5 жыл бұрын
Sit back and relax everyone... and watch those go up in value.
@StreetDrivenDaily
@StreetDrivenDaily 3 жыл бұрын
agree, I wanna wait another year or two before I jump into one, but I have a felling they are going to get more expensive! Had 996 Turbo 6spd, not sure why I did not move up! when i had a chance !
@machohogan
@machohogan 3 ай бұрын
lol. Still waiting! Hopefully in a couple more years.
@lukespector5550
@lukespector5550 Жыл бұрын
What a down-to-earth no bullshit likeable fellow this man is! He doesn't kiss ass to certain manufacturers. I want to see him achieve all goals in life 👍 👍 👍
@darthnatas953
@darthnatas953 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent car, and make no mistake, it is viciously fast. More than likely substantially faster than anything else you have driven, unless you have a more modern turbo. I have a 455hp Camaro SS 1LE, and the 997.1 turbo will blow that thing into the weeds in a straight line.
@демкен
@демкен 4 жыл бұрын
997 turbo i think it's the last 911 with “911 appeal“ and it's so beautiful it keeps the simple traditional lines and at the same times the shadow to future innovation, one of the top cars ever...
@andyran
@andyran 5 жыл бұрын
The 997.1 Turbo Manual is such a peach of a car. I loved mine, its one i miss a lot. Nicely tune-able too
@kingy23king17
@kingy23king17 2 жыл бұрын
Gday mate. Im looking at buying one when i get to the UK. Were the servicings decently priced and was the car reliable?
@andyran
@andyran 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingy23king17 very reasonable services, a minor was about £300!! Porsche do a good modern classic deal or plenty of independents about Again mine was dead reliable
@kingy23king17
@kingy23king17 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyran yeah okay. Well thanks. Very keen.
@JonJon-dk3nh
@JonJon-dk3nh 5 жыл бұрын
Ah the 997 turbo - my favourite! Some cat had one with TechArt wheels on it where I worked. Wunderbar!
@fidelcastro9579
@fidelcastro9579 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, although, a 997.2 Turbo with PDK is a work of art.
@darrylle26
@darrylle26 4 жыл бұрын
That is a great sports car.
@francomercurio1729
@francomercurio1729 3 жыл бұрын
@@957cayennes quite stupid comment
@zaheerkader7426
@zaheerkader7426 5 жыл бұрын
This is a future classic 💥
@TheMentalblockrock
@TheMentalblockrock 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the last "Old School 911" was the 993 because it was the last air cooled, then the 964 because it has much of the "classic" body shell, then the 3.2 carrerra because it was the last 911 with a genuine link to the 1960's cars.
@graemew7001
@graemew7001 5 жыл бұрын
The 997 has and likely always will be my favourite of the 911's, a Carrera 4/S Coupe would do me just fine.
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 5 жыл бұрын
997, mega. 997.2 gt3 PDK, the wet dream. A gt3 we centre locks. Wow
@s20ttv
@s20ttv 5 жыл бұрын
Depends if you want N/A or Turbo. The Turbo is a totally different beast to a 2/4S. I love mine, it’s so bloody quick.
@graemew7001
@graemew7001 5 жыл бұрын
@@s20ttv N/A would do me because I would never reach the potential of that so a turbo would be wasted on me, far better off in your hands lol
@bensontan6571
@bensontan6571 4 жыл бұрын
as being a 997.1 c4s owner, I think a turbo is much better, I felt the need for another 150HP after installing the Cup 4 tires.
@graemew7001
@graemew7001 4 жыл бұрын
@@bensontan6571 Never having actually driven one I'm only guessing what would be suitable but its based on the fact that a standard car is quick enough for my skills.
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
Always disliked the wheels on these. I am a big fan of the 'lobster claws', though (had no idea they were called that). Oh, and the exhaust tips - never liked those (keep 'em round I say - this new fad is just yeeeuch). But those really are the most minor criticisms of what is such a desirable car.
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
Julian Evans I know what you mean about the wheels. When they found themselves on other 911’s... 😩
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that man.
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
@t c Yes, I'm sure I'd struggle through somehow.
@visionist7
@visionist7 5 жыл бұрын
At least the exhausts are real. Integrating the tips into the bumper instead of hanging them underneath is actually technically difficult and the reason why so many cars these days have fake tips with the real exhaust inside. Not so here
@johnd296
@johnd296 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way he talks up the 996 all the time. Bodes well for when/if ever I go to sell mine. 100k km on the clock and still a great drive
@beefwellington7791
@beefwellington7791 5 жыл бұрын
Shhhh, those of us who want one don't want the word getting out ;)
@andrewwatt4348
@andrewwatt4348 5 жыл бұрын
John Duggan, Oh yes. I’m with you all the way. My daily 996.1 is just the business. Does it all.
@jomaha9227
@jomaha9227 5 жыл бұрын
You'd imagine he's sitting on a stockpile of low mileage examples waiting for the market to finally turn up on them, so he's trying to talk them up and inflate the price lol.
@computerhelpcc
@computerhelpcc 5 жыл бұрын
I have spent liberally on my 996.1 manual and no regrets as it is still exciting to drive. Sure, interior is a bit cheap but my Jaguar XJ6 scratches that itch so going between the two provides satisfying variety
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of old school, I got to drive the original 3.3 Turbo 4-speed manual in the 80s in my late teens as a friend of mine's father had one and he used to let me drive it (crazy, I know). That really was the notorious one, lol. Crazy levels of lag, very much all or nothing, but really exciting when everything lit up. I have always though the 911 Turbo is the ultimate 'stealth' supercar. As you said, will give equal or better performance compared with any main manufacturer of supercars, yet is much more subtle and practical. I would be delighted to have one such as the one you're driving here.
@rns2222
@rns2222 5 жыл бұрын
Great insights and way of reviewing these cars. Pulling out the harder to find details and experiences between the models. Accurate.
@Number27
@Number27 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review as I've come to expect. Font of knowledge!
@lloydgriffiths1847
@lloydgriffiths1847 4 жыл бұрын
“I am a tart” - JayEmm, I love this channel
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Lloyd
@ollieh11
@ollieh11 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t see it coming 😂
@NR-vw2rd
@NR-vw2rd 2 жыл бұрын
What is a tart?
@pj9375
@pj9375 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a tart too 😂👍
@Porsche_911_Experience
@Porsche_911_Experience 11 ай бұрын
After 3 years of owning one … I can say this is a great car
@th3chrisstott
@th3chrisstott 5 жыл бұрын
Jay I’m so happy you’ve done this! Hoping to get in one of these by the time I’m 35.
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
Chris Stott why 35 man? You’ve made me feel ancient’ 😂❤️
@th3chrisstott
@th3chrisstott 5 жыл бұрын
Renn Eleven unfortunately need to get a few other things out of the way first! It’s a 5 year goal!
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I was the exact same. Funny how once you do it, how easy it is to let go! What is your list? I’m curious!
@th3chrisstott
@th3chrisstott 5 жыл бұрын
@@renneleven Honestly it's ridiculously long, but I want to sample loads, absolute top of my bucket list is an F12 highly unlikely but the pursuit of it will be worth it I'm sure. In the meantime if I can experience an E92 M3, Land Rover Vogue, a super class merc and an old defender and of course a turbo/turbo S I'd be pretty happy. How about you?
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
It’s quite funny, I’ve always sought attainable cars as the yardstick. I just bought my forever 911, and want to explore aircooled additionally. Also would love my old DC2 back. Miss that.
@gabebercz6651
@gabebercz6651 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! It actually changed my mind about trading my 09 997 TT Cabrio with 60K miles for a low milage 991.2. I’ve had the car for near 10 years and love it but have been considering a newer car but I think stay with this Mezger powered beast. Thanks!
@1970boggy
@1970boggy 5 жыл бұрын
Actually like the 911 Turbo 👍🤪 Especially the 997 ☝️
@dezinetech1000
@dezinetech1000 4 жыл бұрын
997.1 or .2 (prefer the 997.1 for looks) will be a classic soon. Get one if while it’s still attainable. It’s the last analog classic look and feel.
@MrGB1999
@MrGB1999 5 жыл бұрын
To me, the 911 Turbo is the perfect example of why you would sacrifice a bit of pace for more overall thrills. If a sports car just isn't kicking out a nice sound, half the battle is lost before you've even gone anywhere
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743
@dr.brianjudedelimaphd743 5 жыл бұрын
I have 997.1 C4s and my brother has a 997.1 turbo Both cars are insane but the turbo takes it up a notch .... nonetheless, I still think my C4s is a beast
@cjsnylons
@cjsnylons 5 жыл бұрын
Currently, 650+ likes from Turbo owners and 24 dislikes from GT3 owners. ;) In the USA they only made 226 (+/-) 2009 997.1 Turbo 911s that are coupe and 6-spd. I'll hold onto mine.
@ThomasMichaelTX
@ThomasMichaelTX 5 жыл бұрын
I've become a fan of yours, and subscribed, since seeing your 992 review, and accompanying explanation on Rennlist. #Truth I loved my 2003 996.2 which I drove to 96,610 miles before selling to my best friend, and will never, ever sell my 997.2 GTS. Sadly, the 991 and beyond hold no appeal for me whatsoever. I also harbor a real appreciation for Lotus cars, but could not live with the reliability and build quality issues. Keep real.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Thomas
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx 4 жыл бұрын
996 prices are already raising? Damn, you just cant win with porsche, lol
@drewmorg.
@drewmorg. 5 жыл бұрын
These are still so beautiful and desirable. We have a 2006 Boxster S (6 spd) and it's fantastic. I want a same generation 911 S so badly!
@chuckystang
@chuckystang 5 жыл бұрын
You did not note that the 996 turbo is not plagued by the IMS issues of the other 996 911s. But I still long for a regular non turbo 996. Its just $2,500 shy of perfection which is about what the repair costs. Obviously I am not counting any of the air cooled 911s because those prices are for the rich and famous at this point. I don't care for the appearance of the 997.1 turbo in this video, not sure why but I don't even like the interior compared to the 996...I just find the headlights boring on the 997 unless its a gt version of the car with the longer front end
@modernworldiscrap
@modernworldiscrap 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, 996 turbo...
@zrzzezolo7134
@zrzzezolo7134 5 жыл бұрын
Last old school is 996, 997 have too much electronic bulshit.........
@girl0fender
@girl0fender 5 жыл бұрын
A great , well-balanced review thank you. All that you said mirrors all of the reasons that the 997.1 Turbo is my choice of vehicle, it does everything with real aplomb.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Thankyou
@VTheGuerrilla
@VTheGuerrilla 5 жыл бұрын
Last of the Mezger engined turbos.
@MrRoyck10
@MrRoyck10 5 жыл бұрын
The 997. 1 the last analogue Porsche, all these mappable digital car coming out of Germany all sound synthetic and with loads of bhp. Speed is not important rather engine characteristics, drive and distinctive engine sound all take priority over bhp / speed. I love to drive a car and all these digital cars all computer aided that helps the driver. This 997 is the golden nugget of the Porsche mainly the naturally aspirated engines, reminds me of the beauty of the mechanical watch over a Quartz watch.
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 4 жыл бұрын
One notable upgrade on the 997 is the electronic AWD. 996s had a mechanical diff.
@ahemgee9542
@ahemgee9542 Жыл бұрын
Technically the 996s is a viscous ( fluid) coupling, with no mechanical connection between driveshaft and front diff.
@cabby0120
@cabby0120 2 жыл бұрын
All the Porsche 911s are great. All of them. But, it’s interesting reading all the different views on which is the last great one for whatever reason. If you’ve owned anyone one of them, you’re truly fortunate. Porsches are the best driving cars. Thanks for another excellent video.
@martinstensby7377
@martinstensby7377 4 жыл бұрын
When I pushed the like-button it went from 996 to 997. Coincidence? :-)
@ianmitchell9102
@ianmitchell9102 4 жыл бұрын
Favourite 911 is the 996 and doesn’t like the 992. Sounds a little controversial to me, but apart from that a good little review, I think a 997 ( non S ) with a Manual box will be bargain of the century in the next couple of years and worth a fortune in 15 years plus times 👍🏻 I’ll take any 911 please !!
@danielmarshall4587
@danielmarshall4587 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you JayEmm, FOUR HUNDRED & EIGHTY horse power. I remember "Performance Car of the year 95 when they went to the Isle of Man and the then new 993- 911Turbo won the test that had 405hp I think... and everyone was laughing their arse off when they drove that car. Great video.
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 5 жыл бұрын
The 997.1 manual turbo is in my top 3 favourite 911's. Whats not to love?, except the price. They hold their value so well. Love the front bumper design.
@s20ttv
@s20ttv 5 жыл бұрын
R Tap get one. They really as as good as they look 👍🏻
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 5 жыл бұрын
I live in Ireland, never seen a 997.1 manual turbo. All delivered with that rubbish auto. All the 997.x turbo go for €75k + here. Outta my league.
@s20ttv
@s20ttv 5 жыл бұрын
R Tap I’d disagree with ‘rubbish auto’. Mines tiptronic and I wanted one with it. One it’s faster shift than manual, two it’s great to drive with. Usually in any other 911 is say a manual box is better. With a turbo the auto box or PDK is definitely the one to have. I suggest you drive one.
@jomaha9227
@jomaha9227 5 жыл бұрын
@@s20ttv Whatever you have to say to sleep better at night, mate ;)
@phildrouet3921
@phildrouet3921 5 жыл бұрын
@@s20ttv the Tiptronic auto is strong and more than up to the power. I had a 996 Turbo with the Tiptronic but it wasn't fun, just crazy fast.
@rayvalk1433
@rayvalk1433 3 жыл бұрын
Not only one of the best looking 911 but also serious fast and with the solid Mezger engine. These will go up in value for sure...
@neilsizen7774
@neilsizen7774 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope so as I bought a 997 turbo gen 1.5 last week & I pick it up in a couple of weeks. Had to sell a kidney to buy it ☺️
@christianblack5260
@christianblack5260 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Jay!! I would love to see a comparison video of the 997.1 C4s vs 997.2 C4s also a 997.2 C4s vs 997.1 Turbo. Can’t seem to find anything on KZbin comparing those models directly..
@panagiotispanagoutsos1275
@panagiotispanagoutsos1275 3 жыл бұрын
The best 997 TT review out there. I have the same spec manual, 2007 coupe black on black. Can relate with every word. Car is perfect especially after tuning
@Rennthusiast
@Rennthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 997.1 turbo 6MT in guards red. I pretty much agree with all that is said in this video...except (no offense) your affinity for lobster claw wheels 😂
@chriscarbaugh3936
@chriscarbaugh3936 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, need a 997.1 Turbo. Convinced me; I sold my lovely, modded 930 a year ago. This can replace it; kept the vintage Longhood 👍
@marcnobel3938
@marcnobel3938 5 жыл бұрын
VTG Turbos have been used before on a lot of Diesel Applications. It was new back then for petrol engines. That why it was kind of standing out technology when the car was new. Today most of the manufacturers go with the cheaper solution of the twin-scroll turbo. It`s also a good technology.
@rudik5496
@rudik5496 5 жыл бұрын
Agree on the GT3 comment: always wanted a GT3. Eventually drove one (997.1 GT3) and compared to my 997 2S the reluctant gearbox, light steering and pedal weighting was underwhelming...
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus 5 жыл бұрын
That is my favourite 911 turbo model.
@doca8792
@doca8792 4 жыл бұрын
Best all around car, ever, the 997tt.
@tadficuscactus
@tadficuscactus 2 жыл бұрын
997.1 turbo manual might be my favorite ever 911.
@js002003
@js002003 3 жыл бұрын
great review. And definitely a good point, in the real world the turbo is faster and more fun than the gt3 until you get to the track of course.
@FbtGl
@FbtGl 6 ай бұрын
8:52 it does torque to you 😂
@omarlondon
@omarlondon Жыл бұрын
not a great gearbox? its probably the only stock manual gearbox in the world that can take over 1300 bhp without doing anything to it haha.
@kristianspencer1978
@kristianspencer1978 5 жыл бұрын
993 turbo is my favourite, 997 second best. 964 flat nose is quite nice.
@acchaladka
@acchaladka 5 жыл бұрын
Was just watching your other video on Patreon about dealers politely screwing around on customers, and the over-valuation of Porschae in general. As an owner ("the pricks are on the inside!"), I think there's no one I'd like to hear more from on this topic of Porsche and what's really on. I'd like to see you get your hands on the e-hybrid twin turbo performance variant Panamera as well as the Taycan but I tend to agree the 997 are the last I really see myself in.
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
Porsche's sales strategy is baffling. Annoy potential customers and continually sell to flippers.
@jb7052
@jb7052 3 жыл бұрын
997 Turbo is my ultimate dream car. Hoping to upgrade from my 996 one day
@daveblock1688
@daveblock1688 5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel especially as I am one of the lucky (and smart) US car guys to own a Lotus 111R. My previous car was a 1979 Porsche 930 Turbo which I had for 32 years and Porsche was my brand. Now I doubt you could give me one. The last true Porsche was the 993.
@moneyparhar
@moneyparhar 5 жыл бұрын
Dude you drive tin cane with Toyota camary engine.
@daveblock1688
@daveblock1688 5 жыл бұрын
@@moneyparhar Dude, The EVORA has a Camry (learn to spell and capitalize) engine. The Elise has a Celica GTS base motor, a Yamaha racing head and Lotus ECU. Bulletproof. If you doubt its lineage then you know not about engines or World Rally. Weighs less than 2000 lbs.And that would be an aluminium monocoque. Advice to you: Stick with Uber.
@ian_987
@ian_987 5 жыл бұрын
"The last true Porsche was the 993" Everything was better in my day, young'un...
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, that's an aluminium chassis with composite panels - no monocoque
@daveblock1688
@daveblock1688 5 жыл бұрын
@@ian_987 I may be older than you.
@lloydlawrence2009
@lloydlawrence2009 5 жыл бұрын
My heart is torn between one of these and an F-Type V8 R..... Every time I think I've come to a conclusion, I see another video that makes me change my mind..... Back to looking at 911's again
@s20ttv
@s20ttv 5 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Lawrence - UK I’ve drove both and own the Turbo. The R sounds fantastic and interior is nice but the Porsche looks better. It also gives you a better feeling when driving. I suggest you drive both and decide. Either N/A v8 or twin Turbo Flat 6.
@lloydlawrence2009
@lloydlawrence2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@s20ttv - I had a 996 3.8l and it never really ticked the box for me. I need to get myself into a 997 turbo so I can get a proper feel for it. The Jag did feel really good to me.....
@s20ttv
@s20ttv 5 жыл бұрын
Lloyd Lawrence - UK The R Jag is quick and the 7 speed box is super good. You’d need a PDK turbo to be close to that, the first PDK are a bit crappy. Go with your heart. My wife works for Jag so I just don’t really have much passion for it as I see it every day... the Porsche on the other hand makes me feel good when I open the garage and see it, then right foot down and... woooowwww.
@lloydlawrence2009
@lloydlawrence2009 5 жыл бұрын
@@s20ttv - if I go for the 911, it would have to be a PDK not a manual. The F-Type might be out of the equation if it can't fit in the garage - the Jag is wide with a capital W!
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a HUGE 997 fan, HUGE. However it's hard to see past a V8 and that particular V8 just sounds rude. Buy the Jag now, sell in a year, get a 997 Turbo or a 991.1 Turbo (S) as the prices should have softened a little as used 992's hit the market. Tough choice. 🤔
@craigpesch
@craigpesch 5 жыл бұрын
Been tempted by one of these for a few yrs now. Have to be a manual - nice bit of mid corner breaking made the edit 😳
@isiahwashington2999
@isiahwashington2999 14 күн бұрын
One of the best cars ever made. 2007 turbo is a new perfect vehicle.
@yuriykravchyshyn7019
@yuriykravchyshyn7019 4 жыл бұрын
Trivia question - so which one is better 997 turbo or GT-R?
@nlcke3265
@nlcke3265 3 ай бұрын
Complaining these dont cost 25-30k… yeah.. 👍🏻
@RSTI191
@RSTI191 2 жыл бұрын
I drove a 996 twin turbo for 13 years. You have driven a car until you've driven a Porsche Twin Turbo. Like flying an F-18 Hornet on wheels I used to say.
@chrisanderson2204
@chrisanderson2204 5 жыл бұрын
The last classic Porsche 911 was the 993 Turbo
@paulfixdivcars5614
@paulfixdivcars5614 5 жыл бұрын
Good and honest review! This 997.1 Turbo Manual....with the last Mezger engine is a peach, you just have to live with the ugly 996 rear lights!!
@r8edr648
@r8edr648 5 жыл бұрын
Or you swap them with the 997.2 version and also change the rear bumper in the process ;)
@matpatte
@matpatte 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, 996.2 Turbo and 997.1 Turbo are the best 911s in existence.
@r1flyguy
@r1flyguy 5 жыл бұрын
Driving a 997 turbo at normal road speeds is hardly a good way to find out its true abilities and the fact 1st gear on these is way too short ;)
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Regrettably all I have access to is normal roads
@r1flyguy
@r1flyguy 5 жыл бұрын
Thats fair enough, had the 997.1TT for nearly 5 years and found it wanting for better gear ratios. Have the 991.1TTS now and its better in every way, in my opinion anyway.
@roundm
@roundm 5 жыл бұрын
@@r1flyguy if you boot it in 1st it's really hard to avoid bouncing it off the limiter - and 2nd is good for the motorway speed limit ! however 1st does mean you can pootle in traffic without a problem :)
@lionzoo71
@lionzoo71 5 жыл бұрын
I owned a 997 Turbo for two years and never quite got into it. The driving experience, while better than modern 911s, was still too sterile and uninvolving. Then again, being a Lotus owner who is high on the driving experience, maybe the Porsche stood no chance.
@alexpapathomas6814
@alexpapathomas6814 10 ай бұрын
Friend of mine has a turbo. 997.1. Gorgeous car gorgeous spec and gorgeous sound. I’d love to own one and use it as a daily. There’s a 996 turbo with over 600k mi. Nuts the reliability of these cars
@occultustactical6138
@occultustactical6138 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a 2008 997.1 Turbo and I love the car. It's the last in the line of the Hans Mezger incredible 3.6L engines. In 2009 they went to a completely new design in a 3.8L engine... I recently had the opportunity to drive the 991 Turbo at a local dealer. While it's a spectacular car with a massive leap in technology, design, and comfort it felt way to big to be a 911. I didn't fully realize the size difference until I got back into my own car for the drive home. Of course I'd take a 991 if given to me, but I will gladly stick with my 997 with the hope that it appreciates in value over the next 10 years as many are predicting.
@gabillionaire
@gabillionaire 2 жыл бұрын
Is the 997.1 better than 997.2 in your opinion? I'm looking to buy either one. Thank you.
@occultustactical6138
@occultustactical6138 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabillionaireMany people consider the 997.2 as the sweet spot of the modern 911. Given the choice and the budget I’d go for a later model 997.2. The did a rear facia change starting in 2009 which much needed as the previous version went all the way back to around 2000 and the 996. Plus the 997.2 got PDK which is light years better than the Tiptronic of which I owned several. The 997.2 was also only around for two model years as the 991.1 came out in 2011. If you can find a 2010 997.2 in any model (Turbo always preferred by me) you will be very happy. They’re small, nimble, very fast, and very dependable. Good hunting!
@gabillionaire
@gabillionaire 2 жыл бұрын
@@occultustactical6138 thank you for your tips and advice! Much appreciated
@thomasprince7487
@thomasprince7487 3 ай бұрын
997 with 6 speed 100k plus todays market
@Ursicles
@Ursicles 5 жыл бұрын
Had a 911 turbo and though it was blistering fast, as an experience it was totally souless. Now have a V8 Vantage, much slower, but far more of an experience to drive. The 911 is a very usable everyday car, and I think that's what counts against it a little and takes away from it being truly special.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely cars the Vantage
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 5 жыл бұрын
I love my Turbo. I don't need to stand out and engine noise is not bad for my 991.2. I like to drive and I love the performance. But everyone has their thing.
@ninefourteensix
@ninefourteensix 5 жыл бұрын
One of the great things re. the Turbo is a few mods can change the character to more of a scary/exciting weekend toy. Overall I agree with you about the passion factor though - 997 Turbo is more of a sleeper street GT for sure vs a raw edgy sportscar. Astons are a lifelong fave of mine as well and I wish I had budget & space...
@silasvicus5182
@silasvicus5182 2 жыл бұрын
I watched this video because I always loved the 997 turbo S, currently considering buying one or the 991 but still looking at the prices, taxes, enjoyment factor. Thanks for the video, you made me laugh when you described yourself as a Tar...
@tomhegedosh5487
@tomhegedosh5487 5 жыл бұрын
A future classic with unlimited power potential
@velcingilles3756
@velcingilles3756 Жыл бұрын
The 997 turbo gen 1.5 is absolutely nuts👀. My best friend has one and it's amazing. If I had the money, I would buy one... But I have a 997 c2s and it's plenty already so... 🥳
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 3 жыл бұрын
Upgraded clutch, e88 package or 997.2 ic, a tasty big diameter exhaust and a esmotor tune et voilá, reliable monster. Pin the coolant lines, put some extra torque on the cam bolts and expensive problems should be none.
@mariogonzalez5107
@mariogonzalez5107 4 жыл бұрын
Saving to buy one of these, can’t wait!!
@dancooper4020
@dancooper4020 4 жыл бұрын
I think the exhaust on this car is not stock, it´s a smooth modification and not straight into the face, it´s sound a bit like "luftgekühlt" in the mid and lower rev´s. Can you please tell me who made this exhaust?
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
I can't understand why anyone would want coloured seat belts. Why do you want your seat belts to stand out? It's like having coloured sun visors.
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
Julian Evans I like that. 😂
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
@@renneleven Can I ask why?
@renneleven
@renneleven 5 жыл бұрын
Course brother! I like minor colour coordinated elements. Like Belts, the center line on a steering wheel, a cage and so on. As long as it’s a nice contrasting colour. Also... coloured sun visors?! Really? 🤭 clearly I have a line. 😂
@SenszR
@SenszR 5 жыл бұрын
Adds a bit of life to the interior
@julianevans9548
@julianevans9548 5 жыл бұрын
@@renneleven Thanks for the reply. I like a bit of colour too - body-coloured door or centre console parts, the bits you mention, multi-coloured seats. But not the belts for me - that's not a part I want to stand out - I'd just as soon colour the bits you plug the buckles into (the word escapes me).
@DigitalvideotoolsOrg
@DigitalvideotoolsOrg 4 жыл бұрын
Because I am a tart
@petyrkowalski9887
@petyrkowalski9887 2 жыл бұрын
480bhp is a massive amount of power in the real world. Its more than enough on any public road.
@craigt5906
@craigt5906 5 жыл бұрын
Best looking and still my fave 911 is the Porsche 964 preferably a 5-speed Turbo in Black or Red BAD BOYS FOR LIFE
@ashman0071
@ashman0071 3 жыл бұрын
Lobster Fork not claw but people have been mistaken for so long that claw is now the new norm........
@duotonguitars
@duotonguitars 4 жыл бұрын
it's just that the GT1 was not a 911. /boring mode off/
@timelesskeeper
@timelesskeeper 3 жыл бұрын
As always, very honest and thorough review. You recommend the short shifter, GT3 version, on this 997, correct?
@allanlai_
@allanlai_ 5 жыл бұрын
Great car. I had a tip one, sold it to get a manual 996. Would have kept it if it was manual. Auto is a bit boring to drive, even with all that power.
@theprivatecollectors
@theprivatecollectors 5 ай бұрын
You lost me with the numbers… 😂😂
@margincall7
@margincall7 3 жыл бұрын
British country roads give me such high anxiety haha.. great review!
@christophercatto7184
@christophercatto7184 4 жыл бұрын
you're very right Jay, the 997 GT3 gearbox can be reluctant, it almost makes the driver wonder if rushing a gear through is going to damage the synchros. It won't but I think it's a gearbox that probably takes serveral thousands of miles to fully bed in. The 997T is a great car, for looks I would just lower it a 10-15mm and put a duck-tail. The std liftable wing is just a bit lukewarm. And the side vents (also with the GT2) look a bit ugly IMO. Other than that it's an ace car and anyone should pick one up while they can.
@Midlife_Crisis_
@Midlife_Crisis_ Жыл бұрын
Numeric cables and short shifter cure all 997 gearbox issues save for a stiff 1st gear in the cold.
@kingy23king17
@kingy23king17 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Am looking at buying one myself.
@eggbod
@eggbod 5 жыл бұрын
What a load of waffle.
@peterbannister3013
@peterbannister3013 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 992 C4S and must say I agree with your comments, i am a little underwhelmed by it as does not give me the driving thrill I had hoped for. Thinking of changing for a 2016 Boxster Spyder or grovelling to try to get a 718 Boxster Spyder allocation but highly unlikely. Interested in your opinion on the best Porsche model as a enjoyable replacement excluding GT3s.
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 5 жыл бұрын
991.2 GTS, but not if you drive bad roads a lot
@mariodiniz21
@mariodiniz21 2 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars 991.2 GTS or 997.1 Turbo manual?
@KTLaz
@KTLaz 4 жыл бұрын
996 fave generation, go on my son!..
@HARLEYBOY33
@HARLEYBOY33 4 жыл бұрын
Great to see your comments while out in my favourite Porsche
@mms8393
@mms8393 3 жыл бұрын
Great review JayEmm. This may be my next Porsche - in the spring.
@Blackridge.
@Blackridge. 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest i see the 964, 993, 997 as the real 911s. 996,991,992 those are GTs not sports cars. they even look alike with pumped up bodykits
@JayEmmOnCars
@JayEmmOnCars 3 жыл бұрын
I am curious why you think the 996 is more GT less sports car? It is far sharper than the 997
@Blackridge.
@Blackridge. 3 жыл бұрын
@@JayEmmOnCars well, in my humble opinion, the 996 maybe drives sharper than the 997, but as a full package and the feeling i get from the car, along with how it looks, makes me want to cruise in it rather than test its limits. Unlike the 964 or 997 which i feel Most resemble the original 911. Even more than the 993.
@IsraelSocial
@IsraelSocial Жыл бұрын
Imaging complaining for 480bhp
@JohnnyLudlow
@JohnnyLudlow Жыл бұрын
I've got a Porsche!
@charlesmcguffy
@charlesmcguffy 5 жыл бұрын
Good point about the wheels. I've got 997 Turbo wheels on my 987!
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