Porsche Cayman GT4 vs Honda Civic Type R Limited Edition: Which is FASTER?

[@billymartin4715]

I have 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 AND 2018 Type R. The type R was 1/4 the price and best car for the $ I have ever owned (out of 22 Porsches). Great fun and so versatile.

[@Mikele-ez2jw]

What is really impressive is that the CTR is 0.8 seconds slower than the M3 Competition

[@paulstack2431]

Great comparison I'd love a Gt4 but at 4x the price I paid for a new Type r in Australia im happy with my choice

[@jameswillard1]

I actually have both (well had both, traded my 718 GT4 for a 718 Spyder) and without having watched this video yet I can tell you that the Type R LE feels as focused and serious when you really push it hard. I’ve heard several reviewers say the Type R is the hatchback that Porsches GT/Motorsports division would have built if they had done a hot hatchback and I couldn’t agree more, it really has a similar type of motorsport feel to it

[@christmasisawesome9348]

What's your thought and experience with 718 GT4 and Spyder? Also, why did you trade the gt4 for the spyder?

[@JP-gt8qr]

@@christmasisawesome9348 curious to know as well

[@harutkostikyan219]

Which ones shifter feel did you like best?

[@jameswillard1]

@@harutkostikyan219 they’re really close in my opinion, but I’d say Type R shifter was perhaps slightly better in my opinion.

[@jameswillard1]

@@christmasisawesome9348 Apologies I never saw this question, I got rid of the GT4 for a Spyder because I like the open topped experience and back in 2020 718 GT4’s were quite a bit easier to come by than 718 Spyder’s (I’ve heard that is no longer the case anymore and 718 GT4’s are more desirable and worth more than Spyder version). I wasn’t able to get a Spyder allocation at the time. Between the 2 cars though, I much prefer the Spyder as it has all the performance and handling of the GT4 with the ability to put the top down.

[@williambellisIII]

Would love to see a base Cayman vs. the standard Type R. Think it’d be very evenly matched, and MAYBE in the Type R’s favor.

[@pauldavies7251]

It wouldn't be even at all the type r would smash it

[@edombre4637]

agree that would be an awesome match

[@shckrr]

Nice to see the Rockingham circuit being used again!

[@jonchapman8344]

Type R still is the gt3 rs of the hot hatchbacks

[@Milorre]

Great presentation! With such quality, the likes and subscribers are gonna go up in no time! Both awesome cars! On a side note, I’m not sure the condition of both car tyres on the timed lap, but I have a feeling with fresh tyres on both cars, the timing from the civic might be closer than we imagined given that front wheel drive cars typically depend more on tyre condition for a fast lap.

[@cinch]

Thanks Errol! We did our best to ensure both cars had equal running before their timed laps - it was a pretty warm day so you’re right, tyre conservation was key. Don’t forget to subscribe to our channel :)

[@EvanMcC240]

Epic film! As a Type R owner it’s nice to see how the FK8 fares alongside some higher level competition but from feel/experience as well as timing

[@mikerodz543]

If we’re gonna be honest Porsche is on another ball game honda can’t mess with them when it comes to speed

[@svenmoubis6118]

Really nice video with good photo and personal comments. Today I drive a GT4 of first generation and absolutly love it, track it a'lot and it's so fun and exiting to drive on the edge. The Limited Honda Type-R looks amazing and is a car I would like to try and maybe also bye if i find one, sounds like a bargain compared to the more expensive German. Seeing forward to more videos from you. Keep it up!

[@cinch]

Thanks, Sven! Please do subscribe if you haven't already, we have lots in the pipeline :)

[@test987665]

Well hey, this video got randomly recommended to me by youtube! A good sign for you guys :D.

[@cinch]

We hope you liked it, Cabesi! Don’t forget to subscribe :)

[@doctor_who1]

interesting colour grading. all the best with the channel! what's your racing background?

[@fuelheadsuk9108]

All I wanna know is, how tf did you get access to use Rockingham, would be amazing if they re opened it for track days/race days again

[@shakeybeatz]

I prefer the type r. That other thing just looks like a vw beetle.

[@edombre4637]

i own a 2017 type r and i am very impressed with it. However, watching this video, I am surprised how bouncy this one is, and how smooth the porsche is. I think you should have compared the base 718 2.0 litre turbo with the standard type r 2.0 litre turbo - that would be very interesting - the type r has a little more power but is front wheel drive/front engined - the base 718 is about $25,000 more expensive in Canada, but mid-engined and rwd. I think their weights are about the same.

[@americanjoe9767]

Honda really made a great car. People hate front wheel drive but it’s racing and compared against 3 times as much more priced car. 👍🏻. But I am Miata owner, once Miata, always Miata 👍🏻

[@broadkamikaze]

I used to love watching racing at Rockingham 👍

[@philcliffe6909]

Honda have a history of giving their customers 'small' incremental gains.... bless them.

[@rehenaakter8907]

Great video

[@jljrspsu1]

I love the type r. Subscribed

[@lachlanpoole9016]

This channel is so much better than carwow. I hope one day it becomes just as popular

[@cinch]

Thank you, Lachlan. Very kind words! :)

[@lachlanpoole9016]

@@cinch I'm looking forward to more car comparisons at this awesome track

[@RobHTech]

The type R is way bouncier and takes more to drive it. But, at less than 1/2 the price, it's a no-brainer.

[@wecrewsade]

We were watching you guys film this from our office lol

[@boyofbears]

Good video, does this mean Rockingham is back for racing?

[@constantinrenoir8273]

Great job man, very good video! For next driving videos with manual cars, it could be possible to fix a camera on the pedalbox to film your footwork please? :)

[@cinch]

Thank you! We really wanted to do this, but fell short of time. Perhaps we'll be able to do it when there's just one car to shoot next time :)

[@constantinrenoir8273]

@@cinch You're welcome! Okay, thank you very much! ;)

[@robbocod8445]

Bit random, but who what where can I find the music that played briefly at the start?

[@malyu6374]

I wonder how much the CTR LE is quick than normal CTR with same tire, perhaps 1/2 second?

[@tinyman392]

The suspension with the LE is much stiffer than the stock. So much so that it can actually negatively impact in some scenarios. So it’s not quite super cut and clean that the LE is quicker than the regular.

[@christianservin7635]

Yes! Great video!!

[@cinch]

Thanks, Christian! Don’t forget to subscribe :)

[@CTattack]

Type R all day everyday. FL5 rocks too.

[@roger3958]

One car costs 2x the other. At least. Probably should’ve been a base cayman no?

[@princemunna8835]

nice video

[@zcmdzpp127]

Which is faster my mom’s minivan or Ferrari 296? Nice comparison..lol

[@loko776]

How is it possible?!? I'm living in Corby... This track is closed.

[@EricBeau2011]

Rapport qualité, prix et performance 🤔 Honda!!! 👍🏼🧠💪💝

[@eddiegray793]

Why did type R bounce so much ?

[@你是國王]

R mode stiffens the suspension for track but I think that sport mode is the sweet spot as the suspension is more compliant and it has the same throttle response it makes +R mode a bit redundant because of how uncomfortable and firm it is

[@EvanMcC240]

Agree with the earlier comment about Sport mode being a nice sweet spot - issue with Sport though is stability control is only fully defeatable in +R mode after a 10 sec push on the button

[@mrlotusmic]

Or just go for a GTS 4.0 and save about £20k (18 month waiting list) more than enough for the road and great for touring,

[@cinch]

We do adore the GTS 4.0 - but if you can get a GT4, wow!

[@AshleyBurch]

Bring back Rockingham

[@mikeross488]

No contest.... ones a teengers wet dream.. ones a proper car lol

[@stormking1973]

2023 Type R is game changer though

[@TheFK8Life]

Given the same power the Type R is faster - I embarass Porsches daily in my Type R lol. Compare a 2L Cayman to a 2L Type R and you'll see just how slow Porsches really are lol

[@moneyparhar]

Cayman GT4 is beautiful Honda is lawnmower with wing

[@whateverrrrrr123]

The Megane pls

[@saimul3567]

Wow

[@fifthof1795]

I have no interest in cars yet i watched this . Odd.

[@jimiverson3085]

This just makes me sad that Honda isn't making a RWD sport car any more. They have the engine and suspension tuning chops, but just won't take the next step.

[@TheFK8Life]

The fwd Type R laps faster than any 300hp rwd car on sale - period. When released it lapped faster than the 2016 GT4 Cayman at the Ring. It absolutely demolishes the 2L Cayman for far less money as well. Pp

[@gumerdominguez4091]

Y’all do you best cuz gr Corolla will eat y’all 😂😂😂can’t wait to see that

[@TheFK8Life]

Results are in - the GR Corolla is slow lol

[@person2186]

Bmw must be ashamed now, the ultimate driving machine? so expensive yet a plasticy hatchback is as quick. Well done, bmw !

[@cinch]

Have you seen our video featuring the new Honda Civic Type R? It's even faster! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3rRqKWhmbOdmK8si=5MCQzVGMCXkaUx0f

[@mdsorif8116]

Hi

[@club.alfagt]

To me it’s glaringly obvious the Porsche is a much better and more suited track machine The CTR was fighting the track as much as the driver was fighting the car. Not impressed Porsche all day

[@thinkforyourself5672]

One car is $95,000 to $125,000. The other is $45,000 to $55,000. I would hope the Porsche would win the test. Regardless, for the price the Type R is leaps and bounds the best track ready car you can buy for the price point. A Type R is attainable for a lot of people. A $110,000 Porsche is not.

[@TheFK8Life]

The Type R will pull a GT4 once it has basic bolt-ons/tune - with fuel and a drop in turbo upgrade - stomp a GT4 acceleration wise GT4 is great - RS is an instant classic tho

[@cinch]

We'd love to throw a tuned CTR around our track to show how fast it can be!

[@TheFK8Life]

@@cinch Most of the fast ones are here in Southern California - 600 to 700hp anyway I think you guys will have to find a local which shouldnt be too hard - they should have a few bolt on 450hp cars around your area - maybe even a few with p600 drop in setups

[@TheFK8Life]

@@cinch For reference my car will 60 to 130mph in about 10 seconds - waiting on a larger MAF to bump the power as the stock sensor cant read past 530-550whp ....should make 570-580whp once the ecu can read more boost the turbo is capable of. Running 31lbs at the moment

[@williambellisIII]

@@TheFK8Life There aren’t many FK8s with “600 to 700hp.” Besides, that’s overkill for the front axle. A basic 400hp Type R with lighter wheels and proper 255 or 265 tires is just about right on track.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@williambellisIII lmfao how many times have you driven a 600hp on track? my guess is zero - I drive my car daily on 265s and it gaps alot of local P cars - im switching to a 305 for more grip on boost mid corner but its totally manageable. In my personal circle alone I know of 10 600hp Type Rs running similar setups to mine which is literally bolt-on parts - nothing custom.

[@benbradbury3665]

Common cinch you can do better. This guy is so dull.

[@hridoybiswas2261]

Rjrkrk

[@WahWahWehWah]

Look at the state of that Civic, all I see are chavs driving round in them and with that huge ironing board on the back it looks real ugly, it wouldn't get close to getting into my garage.

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

OK Honda makes an excellent car! But I find it rather sad and pathetic! Of course maybe we are in a sad and pathetic era. We live in era where Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche all make SUV’s. Why, Bucks!!! So realistically the type R is a gussied up four door sedan. You know the kind of vehicle Dad would drive the family around. And this is what modern guys are driving around in and thinking they have a “sporty” car? Everything seems to have gotten watered down, decreased expectations. Here I am a young guy showing off in my family sedan.

[@TheFK8Life]

Only a sad and pathetic person would not find the Type R incredible dynamically

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

@@TheFK8Life And only a clueless individual would not acknowledge it is not a true sport car. Rather a very well executed compromise of a sedan, something your dad drove the family around, into a extremely well handing sedan !

[@TheFK8Life]

@@dr.stephenflorezdc6358 lmfao thats the point goofball My sedan makes 547whp/436wtq and has world class handling with 4 doors and a hatch to load whatever I want. Its a 620hp 3100lb supercar I can easily use for real life.

[@dr.stephenflorezdc6358]

@@TheFK8Life but who cares you live in an era of decreased expectations! Instead of a proper sports car you settle for dads car with performance parts! That’s passion!!!!! It’s emblematic of the current era. When I look back and wax sentimentality you thinks it’s going to be dad’s car I think about? Yup I can see your Honda as a fantasy poster on my wall.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@dr.stephenflorezdc6358 lmfao I embarass sports car driving yuppies daily The point is performance. Plain and simple Acheiving that performance, reliability and practicality is harder in a sedan but more rewarding. Your weekemd track toy is slower than my 4cyl daily driver lol Comedy