The 2021 Honda Civic Type R Limited Edition is the Porsche GT3 of Front Wheel Drive Cars - Two Take

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The Civic Type R was already pretty much the best front wheel drive car ever sold in the US, and with this new limited edition, it only gets better. The 'LE' sheds both sprung and unsprung weight, has retuned steering and suspension, and a Pilot Sport Cup 2 tire for maximum grip. After spending a day driving one hard, it's easy to understand why people pay so much over sticker for these things, even though they shouldn't.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
03:30 Crazy markup
03:45 Driving impressions
06:15 What is it good at?
09:45 Driver change
16:00 Conclusion
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[@TheSmokingTire]

What would you buy for $70,000?

[@LuisMed]

Another fiesta st

[@MountainSalsa]

Chevy SS and a Rolex Submariner

[@datsie14]

air cooled porsche

[@MasterResolve]

Six 135i's with pure stage 2 turbo's and XTA coilovers.

[@dyaaong6030]

A truck

[@TheTopher]

Thumbs up for the New Balance cam!

[@crashyyy4116]

Matt and Zack doubled cheeked up with the NBs

[@ARCNA442]

There needs to be more good car content with pedal cams - it really helps when you're learning manual.

[@TylerAngelier]

CTR incoming @TheTopher?

[@adamb3129]

@@TylerAngelier he’s done a lot of vids on the type r already

[@TylerAngelier]

@@adamb3129 oh yeah I know, I watch him all the time. He persuaded me to get my Veloster N. I meant he might get one personally, he sold his BRZ a few months ago and in his CTR review he talked as if he wanted to buy one.

[@EatSleepDrive]

That's one fast banana..

[@apocalypse487]

It's a good yellow. Looks like the S2000 yellow.

[@bbq8282]

@@apocalypse487 I have both S2k CR and CTR LE. Not the same yellow color code.

[@marlo916]

@@bbq8282 must be nice

[@bushikciwa]

@@bbq8282 ok

[@MusicalFanatik]

Our little banana car will humiliate a lot of rice burners out there...especially in the corners 😝

[@marcusmcneal7453]

“Shredder Helmet Styling”. Damn, that’s actually a perfect summary of the the CTR looks.

[@tyler9703]

This is a fantastic car, at 35-45K. The markups that dealers are charging for this are absolutely insane. I'd much rather have a ZL1 1LE or a GT350R for 70K

[@henlolneh]

The value that civic type-r's have held (limited edition or not) has been a lot better than even I had imagined. it's hard to buy one used for under ~$33-35k.

[@VeriStrawberi]

Greedy dealers

[@guenthersteiner8163]

@@henlolneh most of them sold for well over $40,000

[@chiefbeef2059]

At least you’ll be able to sell this car for like 30-40k in the future, ZL1s and GT350s will go down the drain in value

[@reginaldbowls7180]

@@chiefbeef2059 That's not true at all hahahahaha

[@undergroundoutlaw411]

Dealers killed this cars real potential smh

[@Halfgnomen]

This keeps happening tbh, New hotness comes out, dealers marks it up 15-30%, no one buys it, manufacturer stops making it because it doesn't sell.

[@TrashHeapCustodian]

Abolish dealer sales tbh Keep em around for maintenance but destroy the dealership sales model

[@MaddNomad1015]

@@Halfgnomen it’s a combination of things when a car goes out of production, not just dealership markup. When something new comes out, some people wait to buy the car used even if it’s at msrp. Lmao.

[@OggaDugga]

Same thing with the Focus RS even though that had its own problems. I recently bought a 2021 Tacoma trd sport and they slapped a $5k markup because they said the factory has been slowed down due to Covid. I told the dealership, “I’m not paying $5k over. You can sell a truck for MSRP right this second or you can have another vehicle sitting on your lot” they ended up removing the markup right away.

[@ruskeee]

How does a dealer markup kill the potential of the car? The only reason they're able to charge that much is because there are people dumb enough to pay it.

[@christheguy5554]

I bought one two days ago, I am in love with this drivers car! Thank you so much, you guys rock at car reviews as in the way I like to drive. Based of your reviews I picked the type-r over a 392 charger. I believe I made the best decision of my life……

[@legion1630]

of course you did

[@christheguy5554]

@@legion1630 still loving it especially after 4 days at the track this year, wish I had more money for track days but like how cheap it is to run. New pads sticky tires and dot 4 fluid is all I did and of course an oil change after the event.

[@karlkronic]

Civics used to be a high school kids introduction into drag racing, with a fast food job budget. Now they’re more than a C8 corvette from the dealership:/

[@ARCNA442]

Civics also didn't use to come from the factory with over 300 hp and active dampers. Even the Civic Hatch Sport with its manual transmission and easily-tuned 180 hp engine is miles better than many legitimate sports cars that were available 20 years ago and it only costs $23k MSRP.

[@christophermorales1509]

And just a reminder that 300 hp is nothing in today’s world. This car should cost $35K.

[@ARCNA442]

@@christophermorales1509 300 hp Camry will run you $32k and doesn't have any of the other high-performance features built into the Type R

[@abes3925]

The Acura integra type r was like $25K brand new so nothing has changed

[@autumnleaf2976]

Well it's a special edition model, so 5k-10k premium sounds about right. Base model still costs around 35k - 40k. (Remember it's the dealers who are charging extra, not Honda's fault)

[@doug186]

“Honda dealer needs a boat!” 😅

[@RS_Jones88]

I love the videos with both you guys doing the review! It's almost like watching a new channel and a good refresh on the channel.

[@rereg543]

I've never seen someone look more at home in a puffy Patagonia jacket.

[@smeegain3657]

you are not watching enough savagegeese videos

[@hotdogy12345]

@@smeegain3657 LOL

[@S3v3n13tt3r5]

Dealers need to go extinct

[@corbingreiner9879]

How should the factory distribute and sell millions of cars? Where will you go to get warranty work?

[@jebediahspringfield9496]

Less middlemen!

[@S3v3n13tt3r5]

@@corbingreiner9879 Online, and in warehouses staffed by manufacturer employees, certified mechanics?

[@kylew728]

There’s a 2020 gt350 at a local dealer and they want 92k for it.

[@corbingreiner9879]

@@S3v3n13tt3r5 No dealerships is different then no dealer's license. Are we comparing apples to apples?

[@JonY-ub2ho]

Your boy be riding the clutch.

[@shamil808]

Another Two Takes? We're getting spoiled.

[@yuhengwang2185]

Zack is full time now.

[@nigelmcphearsonletsgobrand9247]

Matt... I love the foot cam. It would be awesome if you put a small "tach cam" on screen right above or next to the footwell.... avoiding the speedo of course! 👍🏼

[@the-boring-car-guy]

Man this thing halls. For some reason I feel the sense of speed in this vid a lot more than your other ones. Seems like this car really gives you the confidence to wring it out

[@dongonzulman6478]

The title of this has to be a reference to Misha's cross shopping lol

[@firekrave1]

i too had that thought lol

[@MishaMansoor]

Maybe I planted some seeds. I stand by it haha!

[@dongonzulman6478]

@@MishaMansoor Lord Misha replied to me omg

[@Wirenfeldt1990]

@@MishaMansoor the man, the myth, the Leg end!

[@bobbyaustralia8509]

2wd civic > 1wd thot hatch

[@jagmohanbasran4879]

Having owned the Integra Type R in this color and also the 2018 Civic Type R, I'd say the removal of sound deadening is a huge factor in enjoyment of an ''R'' branded car.

[@Hiukuss]

Up to 75k.. literally as much as a ZLE. What the fuck 😂

[@firekrave1]

and then there's the used market. All sorts of toys for that money.

[@IntegraDIY]

You can buy a 2020 for a little less than half that price. Still new. Good bang for buck

[@mcspikesky]

Not a special edition..

[@governmentcalamari9785]

@@mcspikesky well the 6.5 gen is the final Camaro body style as of 2023. So a zl1 1le will be extremely limited since the consumer market and myself including hate the front end update.

[@charliep9986]

And in the used market you can get a 997 GT3, a 981 GT4, a R8, AMG GT, a C8, F type R... JDM fans are insane. And not in a good way.

[@derekcram1698]

I absolutely love when Zach takes the wheel and Matt follows it up realtively quickly with "Zach is absolutely mobbing" and looks slightly nervous... It's like that same expression that every guest that brings a car for Matt to drive has when he takes the wheel :P

[@Jushwa]

Loving this new format with the new upgrades. Looking forward to more of these. Keep it up guys.

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

It’s crazy how that other guy was resting his foot on the clutch... yikes 😬

[@msilvoli]

These guys need to relax their left foot 🤔

[@NaijaBull]

I was thinking the same thing. Bad habit thats probably hard to break at this point

[@bobbyrios2k223]

Yeah thats a bad habit

[@Itssconnorr]

He’s driving on canyon roads it’s not like he’s cruising. He’s an automotive journalist, he knows wtf he’s doing.

[@msilvoli]

@@Itssconnorr it doens't matter, foot off clutch pedal - this is why people need to learn foot work otherwise you'll going to fry your clutch disk.

[@stevethomas760]

Own a '91 NSX , 22nd one in the US. The original owner paid 83K, 20K over list. A lot of money now, crazy money back then. It's insane that these cars are still selling over list in some areas four years after introduction.

[@curtissullivan5441]

thank you Zack and Matt for taking time out of your days for these two takes

[@zeitgeist57]

13:16 "Shredder Helmet-styling"...THANK YOU. It may have been mentioned somewhere but I hadn't heard it before. Perfect description for us '90s kids.

[@earl1394]

I love this format. It's like a rolling podcast for car enthusiasts.

[@FK2VtecTurbo]

Zach stop riding the clutch 😂😂😂

[@JesusRodriguez-tm8go]

It was driving me nuts too

[@usopenwheel5348]

He rides the clutch and he lets the engine rev up before the clutch is fully engaged on his up shifts. Like cmon man lol

[@malcolmar]

At MSRP the kind of performance Honda was able to achieve with this car is simply AMAZING not to mention you have usable back seats and a very large and usable trunk. In the face of the electric future and the 6-speed manual transmission being rarer, the "regular" Type R is already a modern classic so this Limited Edition will be a future Holy Grail car. I also love the way this car looks. I love it so much I bought a 2019 Type R. I was very fortunate to get it at MSRP and the car drives like a dream. It is our family car and has made car enthusiasts out of everyone in our family. Well done Honda! I don't know what the future holds but I am glad I was able to get a car like this when I could.

[@brianmessemer2973]

I chuckled out loud at "....Zack is mobbing! 😳" Great review guys 👍

[@jtaheri223]

I love it when you guys fan hard over Honda’s 😍

[@charlesespinoza9961]

Truth. $25k car all day... and I still wouldn't even want it.

[@Whomecouldntb3]

Dealers are absolutely nuts for the mark up on this. I bought the regular Type R last week for a little more than 33k with 3k miles on it. Love it, but don’t be a sucker.

[@TORQToolbox]

That's not too bad of a price given the MSRP new is about $38k. When I was looking to buy a Type R there was a used one with 5k miles for $37k. I ended up finding a new one at MSRP

[@StandingUpForBetter]

This car is a modern day classic! I have a 2019 CTR and LOVE it! It is not only one of the best cars I have ever owned, it is one of the best cars I have ever driven. Thank you Honda for making this car!

[@banboosy]

Nice, Matt, congrats on your new company, Heel and Toe!

[@stevescarsfish2175]

Honda needs to put their dealer’s in check on that MSRP markup.

[@andrewmacartney76]

In Canada they are selling $100,000. 1020 units worldwide U want a better deal? Get a Jaguar xfrs . They made 500 worldwide over 3 years, and it would destroy the civic type r ltd. For less than $60,000. Most car reviewers agree it will be a future classic

[@gw4886]

@@andrewmacartney76 It's not the dealer that's the problem, it's the knuckle heads with money willing to pay the mark up. They set the mark up based what the people are willing to pay, no demand, no sale.

[@stevethomas760]

@@gw4886 Yep, supply and demand

[@g.dubyou6263]

Last year a 1998 integra type r went for $82,000 on bring a trailer. That was number 3,XXX. They’re making 600 of these, in the US. They know what they’re doing. And it’s all about making money.

[@gw4886]

@@g.dubyou6263 For a long investment, I get it. But for car to be driven ocassionally, a garage queen, no way. Defeats the point of owning a Honda.

[@simonrichards5430]

Zack getting on it!!! Poor Matt gets scared ... :). Great review guys!

[@norgtube]

Dual pinion EPS is real neat because it shifts the EPS motor to its own pinion on the rack instead of the steering column. So you get assist, but with (ideally) manual steering quality.

[@EvendimataE]

THIS EPISODE IS BROUGHT TO YOU BY NEW BALANCE....LOL

[@MikeJones-on9vm]

Lol🤣

[@venom5809]

LMAO "Don't buy him a new boat" 😂

[@BarbWaltersMusic]

In Cali they're still overcharging for Type R, here in Mass I got a 2021 for MSRP

[@NewfieOn2Wheels]

That's probably the best way to get one of these, find a flyover state dealer that's not gonna sell one anyways and then just ship it in from there.

[@machtschnell7452]

@@NewfieOn2Wheels MA is a real flyover state. SMH

[@TORQToolbox]

Yeah my buddy flew from Cali to the east coast to buy a Type R and drove it back

[@RCXDerp]

@@machtschnell7452 Cali people be wiling out thinking homelessness is impressive

[@rns9265]

@@TORQToolbox Cameron Hill?

[@tyvekhomewrap9164]

These two takes are great, keep 'em coming

[@tractioncontroldelete]

Love the PEDAL CAM!! More of this please 🤟

[@jasonchoy535]

I love how Farah interrupts the other guy every time he tries to speak

[@supernewf3722]

It's his son lol.

[@STLproject]

He is a talker not a listener. Two different types of people in this world

[@NissanSkyline901]

I see you with the homage to Best Motoring videos in the thumbnail design!

[@MoeVeliz]

I have a 2021 Type R in championship white being delivered to me tomorrow and I could not be more excited!

[@gpiludu]

Thanks for validating my recent CTR purchase 🤘

[@AaronHendu]

Would look great with some bronze wheels on that beautiful yellow paint.

[@delta-tuning]

Agreed. Similar to the S202 STi. Yellow paint with bronze Rays, looked real good.

[@ConLLee]

Man this car has been around for a good couple of years now and i still think it looks fantastic. Its never gotten old and they look so goddam nice in real life. i get where people are coming from when they complain about the styling but i disagree lol. Also i think the black and yellow on this car looks awesome

[@turbochoochoo]

11:50 this is a really great point regarding manual cars. I've noticed that transitionary point in Ford ST cars and Hondas but it's missing from Volkswagens and some GM vehicles. It really does make all the difference.

[@dalemenna5653]

For sure. As the owner of a Focus ST, I see this as one of its strong points (along with its aggressive turn-in and torque, its main weakness being the lack of a limited slip dif)

[@jackreacher6758]

Test drove a manual challenger and the clutch felt like an on off switch.

[@TheCldmstrsn]

Honestly I really loved the rev matching in this. It felt about as good as the GT4

[@apolloandratti7922]

A moment silence to those who paid dealer mark-up.

[@Chocobohunter]

Even the regular type r is marked up anyway

[@toddstevens8506]

Honda should cut their dealers who engage in price gouging.

[@irish0625]

You can only gouge if you have a sucker on the other end

[@Bob_Smith19]

It’s called a free market. Lots of people crying about GPU prices. And it’s for the same reason, they can’t buy one for the price they think they should pay. Thankfully no one else gets to determine how someone spends their money.....at least for now.

[@toddstevens8506]

@@Bob_Smith19 Well Bob you're clearly not related to Adam Smith, that's for sure. Firstly, there's no such thing as "free markets" or this kind of price gouging abuse would be commonplace and the materials necessary for modern life would all go the highest bidder so people would be starving on the streets, and I don't mean a few tent cities. This same kind of "market fundamentalism" is the same logic that allowed Clinton to remove Glass-Stegall which led to the 2008 financial crisis. I could go on but I think it's safe to say that markets need regulation or they will destroy themselves, the only real question is how much.

[@dleetr]

@@toddstevens8506 Well said. The dealers are gatekeeping a product and their shortsighted greed many times actually depresses sales, reduces the velocity of money and makes us all poorer.

[@babieca-buildingthedream]

Great ride guys, I love it !!

[@Verichai]

The "Shredder Helmet" styling...nailed it.

[@DarthChewie]

It looks like Pikachu

[@PolyFPV]

Been waiting for this one since you guys talked about it on the podcast

[@sleepeatdrive7619]

I just saw one in my local Honda dealership Sunday when I took my S2000 for service. I had no idea what it was and now wish I paid more attention to it lol

[@budgetedbrady]

Watching this in my 2020 civic sport to see what I’m missing out on!

[@augustortiz]

Anything above 60k for a (albeit the most brilliant) FWD car is just outrageous.. car manufacturers and dealerships have lost all respect for money at this point.

[@johntechwriter]

For me it’s a non-starter. Instead I bought an ND2 Mx-5, and would have zero problem staying with these guys on this road. But more important, my MX-5’s RWD drivability and full-time driver engagement makes a trip to the local Safeway an experience.

[@augustortiz]

@@johntechwriter I completely agree, you can never go wrong with an ND2, its just as fun as any modern higher performance car especially when you don’t end up in a jail cell after flooring it for 5 seconds. For me this Type R is a brilliant compromise between daily and track toy, but I remember it wasn’t long ago you could get cars like these (starter enthusiast fwd/awd class) for around the same as the (then) new miata...Almost all dealerships are now giving MSRP hikes on enthusiast cars now.. And Honda asking what E9X M3’s, B7 RS4’s, Z06’s, R35’s and other higher end performance cars used to cost should be heavily shamed upon by the car community.

[@The_Stanman]

It's the consumer buying it that's lost their mind. A dealers not gonna say no to someone offering that much.

[@autumnleaf2976]

@@augustortiz 35k-40k for the base model Type R isn't asking much, just saying. (Dealers are the culprits for demanding high money, not the manufacturer)

[@augustortiz]

@@autumnleaf2976 yes 35-40k is totally reasonable for this car. Dealerships are a cancer to the car community

[@EvendimataE]

now that there is a legit yellow type R, i wonder what is the value of honda pro jason's yellow repainted type R

[@dlombana161]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks nah. It's worth exactly 0 dollars more than any other Type R. Some would say even less because AS IS it was taken completely apart by a body shop and it's got some bolt ons. Neither ever adds value to any car. Seems like a proper paint job of course, but if I already have doubts about Swindon's assembly skills sometimes...I'm not betting money the shop did a better job.

[@guenthersteiner8163]

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks a resprayed car will never be more valuable than a stock car (unless the stock car has paint damage)

[@lexusrcflover9175]

I'm not a huge honda guy but this car seems almost perfect from the factory.Tint the windows and drive it.Love the yellow!..yellow and black are the best color for these cars in my opinion

[@gravityhammer25]

You don't need a limited edition Type R to get the Type R 'GT3' experience... get a regular one. All the stuff the limited edition has is very minimal and you can do better aftermarket suspension upgrades on a base Type R... you don't need coilovers by default on this car either. The adjustable suspension is incredible.

[@Thomas-cityd5_gixitxs]

Awesome car. Questionable price tag. But certainly a Honda collectible love the color choice. If you ever push more power , keep the stock exhaust and find a set of high flow headers and catalytic converters.

[@EliteGi]

Absolutely love my Type R, and would love this edition even more especially with the reduced sound dampening. But it still blows my mind that some dealers in the US would try to sell these for $70k!

[@MishaMansoor]

Haha so sick!! And maybe now my GT3/Civic Type R cross shop makes a little more sense. This car provides a genuinely awesome and engaging manual experience!

[@RelaxAndSmokeMeth]

CTR is a phenomenal car.

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

FYI, the 2017+ NSX also has the dual pinion EPS. Like you said, the steering wheel is attached to one pinion gear, and the electric motor is attached to the second pinion on the other side of the rack. This way the torque and loading is distributed by two gear meshes instead of one. Better!

[@ericdawson845]

About what my 2017 GT350 was new! Yikes, love this car but that dealer-added obscene...

[@Ven100]

Even the most JDM Yo! would be hard pressed to pick this over even 1st gen NSX..

[@billyelliotx]

I still feel gutted this thing doesn't have a 8-9k redline that you would expect from older Type R models. But man this car is just nuts with the tech and how fast it is.

[@PDCruzer]

First video I watched was the HFP 2010 Civic Si, now realizing I’ve been watching for over 10 years with with 2021 Type R. OG’s will know Matt and his Si touch points

[@TORQToolbox]

Haha same here man, that video inspired me to buy the 8th Gen Si in 2010

[@Dany-hi5hu]

Same here dude, got a 8th gen si !

[@PDCruzer]

Bought my first car, an 8th gen Si also!!

[@Bittertokken]

Hold the line boys!!!! Don’t buy the dealer a boat! 🚣‍♂️

[@davidrandall9964]

I’ve been a WRX enthusiast since my first MY00 in 1999. Last year ready to upgrade I Test drove a WRX, WRX STI and FK8 Type R. I purchased the Type R. It is everything the WRX’s were but are no longer. Reminds me of my favourite cars (I owned two) back in the 90’s - Prelude’s with the 4WS.

[@ShyerCole]

This car is truly impressive having to drive over a dozen of them. Honda did a phenomenal job with this vehicle IMO

[@JoeMeats]

It just blows my mind when people say, "it's a Honda" "it's a civic" people who care about the badge are showing you how ignorant they are

[@damienlee1165]

People don't buy manuals because they're too lazy or scared to learn. I was kind of the same way until I got off my ass and watched some vids and taught myself on my dads old accord.

[@abes3925]

Or maybe they don’t want to sit in bumper to bumper traffic everyday having to shift cuz it’s gets annoying real fast

[@sterlingsilver320]

@@abes3925 You get used to it. Especially with these modern cars that can do half the work for you.

[@koopatroopa187]

@@abes3925 It's really not that big of a deal. Like I used to run marathons and then hop in my Integra Type R with an ATS carbon clutch that had a 1200kg pressure plate and drive my ass home in Japanese stop and go traffic.

[@ivanlowjones]

My prosthetic left leg due to combat wounds suffered in Iraq, makes an automatic transmission much easier to drive. Does that mean I'm too lazy and stupid to drive a 6 spd manual?

[@koopatroopa187]

@@ivanlowjones You literally just said you're taking the road that easiest travelled, so yeah. You are too lazy to drive a manual.

[@TheBaldMiddleAgedMetalHead]

I had the FK2 the generation before that wasn't available in the USA and it was mega, the FK8 looks like its better again. I may have to revisit these cars one day.

[@BuildNMotion]

Love that color! GM needs a similar yellow in their C8 lineup

[@Jo1844]

60K 🙄, BMW M2C money

[@kgthegreatone943]

They're only making 600 of these it's definitely going to go for at least 65 to 75 Grand dealerships

[@noahp6886]

ugh so gross

[@Bob_Smith19]

It’s called a free market. Let people spend their money how they want.

[@noahp6886]

@@Bob_Smith19 one way of looking at it.

[@mmmmm4815]

@@Bob_Smith19 And its a free country to where I can say people who spend this money on this car are moronic nimrods

[@savageguysi8456]

Let them rot at the dealerships

[@eyezblazing3798]

My second car as a teen was 00 civic si that I turbo charged. It had a great shifter.

[@xpengfangirl7942]

just came here from a podcast where Matt says love for the S16 Nissan Silvia, Nissan 4000Z, and R36 GTR all coming out with the olympic games, they might even give us that 1400hp Nissan Vision 2020, and a car is totally an Xpression, that is why Xpeng

[@SheerHippo]

It's really unfortunate that the dealers are marking these things up. I was at my local Honda dealer and they had two new Type Rs on the showroom -- a normal one and a Limited Edition. The normal had a $10k market adjustment, and the LE had a $20k markup. What fool would pay $20k markup for a Civic? Even worse, is that it defeats the very purpose of these hot hatches...affordable performance. The appeal of a hot hatch is really lost when they are in the company price wise of some very serious used performance cars.

[@hovnojede010101]

Good thing ADMs are only a US phenomenon. Over here, the dealer would be rude not to take some % off the MSRP

[@ninjeff]

Can you imagine if this looked like the new Mazda 3 hatch? They'd be sold out everywhere.

[@ARCNA442]

I love Mazda's styling, but the Type R looks much better as it is - it's not supposed to be a sedate semi-luxury car.

[@malcolmar]

They actually are so out everywhere which is why "if" you do find one, the markup is so high. Saw a 2020 Type R and my local Honda dealer it was already sold for $12,000 over sticker. If you like the Mazada 3 enjoy it. To each their own. Too bad Mazada did not option the turbo 3 hatch with a manual seeing how the Miata shows they know how to make good manuals. I love everything about this Type R so I bought one. It is not only one of the best cars I have ever owned, it is one of the best cars I have ever driven. BTW I am an old-school Honda guy and used to own a gen 1 CRX in high school. Glad to be back in the Honda family.

[@adamb3129]

What? They are already sold out everwhere

[@malcolmar]

@@adamb3129 Yep. The Limited Edition sold out in seconds in Canada and the rest of the world soon after that. They did a pre-order which was actually pretty smart because I believe there was no markup. The few remaining that are released here in the States are quickly snatched up when they hit the dealer floor. Again that is brand new with a warranty. And people say manuals don't sell. When we found ours which was the Touring Edition, not Limited we had to drive almost 1 1/2 hours away to get it because they were all sold out everywhere else and that was right at the beginning of COVID. You can find them used but they hold their value INCREDIBLY well so we decided to spend the extra to get our new with a warranty. Our Honda dealer was amazing which I know is not true for everyone.

[@JonHop1]

My Shifter in my Type S is probably the best shifting Manual I have ever driven. And I have owned Porsche's and BMW's with awesome gearboxes.. All I have done to mine is the Fully Acuity shift package and Hybrid Racing Performance Cables.. Acuity 4-way shifter, detents, shift selector springs, and cable bushings.

[@27WON]

We need to get one of those foot cams for our CTR shop car! Would be sweet

[@LUNCHMONEY4numbers]

Love the color, just don't like the car it's on. Really hope the next Civic's styling is less ridiculous

[@thecodynowak]

I love it. If I had the cash, I would totally put one in my garage. That color with the red accents is total teenage dreams.

[@jSyndeoMusic]

Isn’t it?? I would’ve picked one up if it wasn’t marked up so high. I settled for the normal Civic Hatchback, though, and still love the heck out of it. I plan on keeping it for many years, but I’ll always wonder “what if”. But I guess getting used to that feeling of not having the absolute best thing is part of growing up and being mature, you know? Appreciating what you have and stuff. It’s helped me learn that.

[@thecodynowak]

@@jSyndeoMusic For sure! Glad you like your civic - I have a Fiesta ST and I really love it as well. Whenever I spend too long online with cool car videos or on car configurators dreaming of the "what if" I find it best to go get in my car and remind myself that I am lucky enough to have that and I fall in love over and over again!

[@jSyndeoMusic]

@@thecodynowak Totally!! I went on a countryside drive across my state and back again a bit after typing that comment, and had a total blast. When I’m accelerating hard and feeling that rush, or banking around sweeping curves, I absolutely love my car, and it’s really nice being able to totally love what you already have, and like you said, counting our blessings. Besides, the Type R doesn’t come with a sunroof, and little things like that are parts of the joys of road trips for me-windows down, sunroof open, just cruising along and loving life. It’s awesome.

[@spidermangle]

Sweet video! Props for calling out the bs ADM that is still happening on the touring and will afflict this limited edition as well. No boat for you, dealer!

[@KevinMartin44128]

Wish you guys new about the pedal dance to deactivate traction control. Plus removing the wiper cowl greatly increases cooling

[@bigfins215]

That car looks like the styling committee was trying to burn some overtime 😢

[@collinmanning8334]

They need to make a 2 door version , just can't get behind the 4 door look/proportions.

[@stevenyoon3867]

I was so excited when the 2door rendering came out back in 2016ish near the 10th gen launch. I've since warmed up to the 4 door but I still wish a proper coupe exists :(

[@damnbadger8242]

Very important is to mention the great low seating position with your hand just planted on the shifter, like a sportscar should.. The previous one sat way to high, because of the fuel tank below the front seats, a Fiesta ST has that same not ideal position, don't know about the Focus RS, I suspect the same problem.

[@hornet224]

After years, I am beginning to warm up to the exterior Tonka Toy design style. But if they could get the price down without the markup I'm interested at 45K.

[@iantownsend500]

As I’ve always said. If you can’t get passed the looks of the Type R you really are missing out

[@GRH316]

Zack looking like a stylish Jewish Marty Mcfly 👌❤️

[@debsarker8005]

Most dealers only get 1/2 Type R a month. Demands are still very strong, thus the markups. It’s much more rare than it’s competition. And the Limited editions were only given to top 600 Honda dealers (1 each dealer). It sucks that you can’t get these even at sticker, but the enthusiasts are keeping the market strong.

[@ThtGuyIzRippin]

type r shifter is the best shifter ive felt in my life. i hate fwd cars but ever since i felt that shifter i want one

[@milli2385]

Too expensive. Another car that will be ruined by greedy car dealers smh

[@henlolneh]

Dealers are greedy for sure but shit, people are buying them at +30% MSRP soooo they're going to keep charging. The fact that it is 600 limited means even next year, they will still hold the same value on the lots.

[@milli2385]

@@henlolneh well duh because they’re being sold at +30% msrp..and who do you think are getting first dibs and also have the money to pay that much of a markup? Other dealers and flippers.

[@henlolneh]

@@milli2385 fact of the matter is, if you're into cars, especially limited edition versions of cars with JDM heritage, you're going to pay a premium. there is no value purchase when it comes to type r's used or new.

[@milli2385]

@@henlolneh but that’s not the case from the manufacturer. The type r is actually well priced. The car suffers when it’s the dealer that’s hiking the prices up. I remember a few years back seeing a hellcat in the showroom for $109k when the msrp was $71k. It taints the car

[@Bob_Smith19]

Are people buying them? If so then any mention of cost is moot. If they weren’t selling then the dealers would lower the price. It’s very basic economics. Not saying the car is worth it at the current price. But it’s a free market and people can spend their money how they see fit.

[@shawnseeley9561]

Maybe try out that dead pedal every once in a while, Zack.

[@Tejno]

Came to the comments for this. Deadpedal discipline is horrible.

[@JmanEspresso]

All this video did, is make me want it more. Ive been in love with the Civic Type R since the last one came out. Im pretty much a euro car guy, Audi, VW, Porsche.. thats what Im all about. Except the youth nostalgia in me grew up on JDM. When I was in highschool, it was pure JDM obsession. To this day I would love to build up a 00 Civic Si, or better yet, a last gen Prelude. Just pure JDM joy. Which leads me to the Type R. First time I saw it, I knew it was gonna be one of the cars Id lust over whenever I saw one. And right now, Im actually in the market, Im currently shopping for my next ride. The main contenders are the VW GTI, MK 6 or better, or better yet, the Golf R. And then the Type R comes in and its like.. ohhhhhh... damnnnn. And like, 2018 Civic Si? Certified used its around 20K. Ok, how much more could the Type R be.. really. And you're telling me, 60k?? Im hearing people are seeing them for even higher?? What in the fuck. Ill absolutely grab an Si certified used for 20. But 60 thousand? Sorry.. even someone who has heavy nostalgia for JDM like me, isnt paying that kind of money for that car. 60k??? 60k buys a hell of lot more car than a brand new Type R. No. Cmon. 60 thousand dollars??? Cmon.

[@whitespy9]

Zack was 😎 on that first few minutes after getting behind the wheel.