Porsche Design Ultimate Guide

[@paachi]

Great video. The bracelet on the vintage ones is what really makes it for me. The newer ones have the more modern traditional 3 link ones while the vintage ones have that slightly tinny folded style

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thanks for stopping by to say so and glad you enjoyed the video. Agreed, the old bracelet is great. I imagine they could not get titanium into that shape for the 10k release.

[@Brian-oq1rj]

Awesome vid , The way the powder coat wears off is so cool

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hey Brian! Thanks for stopping by to say hello and the kind words. Agreed...a little bit of fade on these is really beautiful. If you're in the market for one, I recommend the 7750 more and more as I get on with the pieces as it just seems to fit better. Certainly on me at 6.5" wrist. Have a great week! Cheers, D

[@charlesjohnson178]

Great lesson - thank you. The silver models remind me of the Seiko 7a28-701a I once had, and still miss; Also a handsome watch but the PD is really on another level! Just bought the Dan Henry to fulfill my chronograph needs :D

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello Charles! Thank you for stopping by and the feedback. Glad you enjoyed it. It's hard to beat the value of the DH1972. I can't come up with a chronograph I'd enjoy more for the money. Hope your week is going well!! Best, D

[@DarthVaedus]

Great video dude! Very interesting! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thank you for stopping by to say hello and the kind words. Much appreciated. Have a great week!! Best, D

[@Dan-Commando]

The ULTIMATE 1Mile source of information

[@HobbyOfHours]

Kind of you! Best resource on all things PD is the Facebook group. Check them out: facebook.com/groups/1418835595029225

[@jakobt598]

Great video and information, thank you!

[@HobbyOfHours]

So glad to hear you enjoyed it. Thank you for taking the time to say so. You may also like my next one, the PD buyers guide! Happy hunting, D kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKPSfWN_f69lnac

[@tockingwatches2377]

That beginning was hilarious.

[@HobbyOfHours]

LOL. Thanks for stopping by to say so! Hope you enjoyed the rest as well! Cheers, D

[@theneptune3299]

Hey great video! I love these watches, I really want one they’re just so much money!!!😭😭😭

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thank you for taking the time to stop by and let me know. They are amazing...can can still be had for less than what the stale listings post at. The typical "best buy" these days seems to be around 2.5k USD for a Valjoux 7750. The Dan Henry 1972 makes a nice stand in. Just sayin! All the best, D

[@theneptune3299]

@@HobbyOfHoursHey just to let you know I got the new Dan Henry 1972 a couple months ago and I love it! I come back and watch this video often aswell as your other Chronograph 1 videos (they’re probably my most viewed videos on KZbin) Just would like to say keep up the good work and thank you 👍

[@HobbyOfHours]

So glad you are loving the new 72. And thank you so much for taking the time to share the kind words. It means the world to me. I've made a PD shirt and artwork if you're interested. Over at www.hobbyofhours.com. LMK your thoughts on them. Best, D@@theneptune3299

[@theneptune3299]

@@HobbyOfHours Yes, I saw the artwork in your Dan Henry 1972 reveiw and it looks awesome! I checked it out in your website too. Great job 😁

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thank you kindly!@@theneptune3299

[@luisfelipegonzalez6457]

Hi and hello from Mexcio City, surfing through Facebook i found one Mario Andretti's version, they are asking for $1250, the strap coating is all gone but looks very well in general. Would you go for it? any advise you would give me?

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thanks for stopping by to say hello! Is the day wheel in German or English? The German day wheel is the true Andretti, tho the English day wheel is more common. They make a Spanish one too! If you DM me the link on instragram I'll have a look for you. Buttt....I'm inclined to recommend passing. If you want to restore it fully you're looking at the full 1,850 (ish) on top of the 1,250 and you can find a better one likely for 2.2k. But you have to hunt every day. Let me know! Best, D

[@luisfelipegonzalez6457]

@@HobbyOfHours Thanks man, the day wheel is in English. I ll send the link right now. Thanks I’m new to your content but I loved this guide.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@luisfelipegonzalez6457 Just replied to your IG message. :)

[@JoostHermes]

Great video, I am looking for a Black bracelet for my 1980 PD watch. Any idea where I can find one?

[@HobbyOfHours]

Thanks for stopping by to say hello! They pop on ebay all the time. Mostly NOS looking ones. The challenge for you is to find one that matches the patina of your particular watchcase. Send me a pic of it on IG and I'll take a look. Cheers, D

[@alanfronshtein8230]

How did you determine you have a 3704 instead of a 3700? Was the caseback stamped 3704 inside? The "All-Sigs" or "Full-Sigs" dial which you have was offered between 1982-1985(ish) as a 3700 model. The other giveaway is the bracelet design is (one of) the first version(s) of the geometry of the bracelet system which was revised to "2nd Geometry" with the 3702 (and then again with 3704 later still). I know you noticed I said "(one of) the first version", the distinction is that the earliest examples of the 3700's had 2 separate links comprising the lug links, while later units would integrate those first 2 sections into a single piece. On the VERY first version of the bracelet (that it appears you have), the link immediately under the TITAN had "PORSCHE DESIGN" engraved and black filled, on it and a Dial that only listed IWC and International Watch Co. Notably these 2 IWC logos were of the 1970's version of their logos (a sans-serif font for "IWC" and a different script font for the "International Watch Co."), which transitioned into the IWC logos we know today in 1982... that version of the watch with PORSCHE DESIGN link under the TITAN and just IWC logos, was retailed thru Tourneau to the earliest customers who ordered in 1981, 500 exist. But your bracelet is THAT same original version of the bracelet. Someone changed your clasp though because you have a later clasp.

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello Alan! Such a pleasure to have encountered you here. I haven't met anyone who likes this watch let alone someone who knows so much about it. I likely mispoke referencing 3704 vs. 3700. I wasn't aware of the variance in the clasps though, learning something new here. I do love the bracelet architecture. I have the same bracelet on my Certina Audi chronograph. So unusual and so beautiful. While the other models have less branding and may be appealing to some, I love this 6 line version so much. Thank you so much for taking the time to stop by and say hello. All the best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

After 3 days i found one marked 1 mile / Valjoux 7750 setup , 90% perfect condition for 2K I think i have made a good move ;)

[@HobbyOfHours]

well done, that's a great price for a Top Gun! I don't think the watch public knows the distinction between them. i still see sellers calling the lemania variant as a TG.

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours would loved to get the Lemania , I was two offered to me in astonishing condition for 2K but the movement service issue (getting more and more costy and complex) made me make my choice with the 7750 for 2K (shipping from germany/custom fees included!) + I bought a spare complete genuine vintage 70's 25 jewels 7550 mov for $150 from Italy. Im actually wearing it right now and man im so lucky it keep time so good ! (probably my best automatic movement ever / vintage orfina 7750 verified) im so happy since now the price is NO GOOD on ebay and other Horology website right now , everyone go crazy for them.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 That is a good catch. And ultimately, the 7750 variant is also the one for me. Paid almost 1k to service my Tutima Lemania. I was priced in on the piece so it was worth it. One of the PD's I flipped with a buddy (project for us back in the day) was had for 650.00. No bracelet and scratched crystal but it was the 1 mile version! And I didn't know back then. Crazy. All the best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours I have a question for you : I know the Lemania have a cool screw down crown but did it actually have a moving external bezel ?? I have seen a video of someone having the inner bezel rotated ?! this video from Patrick Quade : Porsche Design Orfina 7176 | TOP GUN WATCH kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaCZi2yleM-la5I

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours at least you found back the 1 mile version ;) im pretty sure you will never let it go again....

[@SG-Photography]

Thank you for the information. What do you think of the Eterna 6500.12 Porsche Design. I didn't see any KZbin reviews on this watch. Any information to share with me ? Thanks

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello! I haven't heard of it....just Google'd and I must now have it. That thing is great looking plus rotating bezel. Yep, I'm hunting again. THANK YOU!!!

[@SG-Photography]

​@@HobbyOfHours hahaha...ok. please also check out the 6500.10 eterna. I think it has a slightly better look. I'll likely get one too

[@SG-Photography]

There are at least 10 other Porsche design watches that I know of other than what is on your video. Lookup Porsche design on Chrono24. There are even different iterations of each one . There is one with a red dial that is a killer.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@SG-Photography I'm generally aware of most of their offerings, didn't catch the one you sent but excited to see it and see if I can nab one! big thanks for sharing it.

[@SG-Photography]

@@HobbyOfHours I will likley get one too , I like the P6500.10 on the light colored titanium

[@travelbuddy3132]

What is the difference between Porsche 3743 and Porsche 3732? Do you know more? Thx

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello! Both of those models are quartz pieces. Near as I can tell, logo placement. Check these links as a starting point for your research and happy hunting! www.finetimepieces.com/iwc/porsche_design_chronograph_3743-001_2785_luxusuhren.htm www.finetimepieces.com/iwc/porsche_design_chronograph_titanium_3732_1716_luxusuhren.htm

[@mbernadel]

If I have one of the 1972 PD Orfina 7176s Valjoux 7750 originals, before the Lamania 5100, how would I go about getting it appraised or selling?

[@HobbyOfHours]

hello! send me a picture on instagram and I'm happy to assist you with an appraisal at no charge. you're selling options are ebay, chrono24 and forums. if the movement is running solid, and the powder coating is good, depending on what rehaut you have, those are the factors to consider. best way to determine your watch's value is to find one in comparable condition from a recent sale and use that as your yardstick. always list your watches higher than you want so that you can control the interaction with your buyer. all the best, D

[@mbernadel]

Thank you for the advice and offering to take a look!! I’ll send a DM on Instagram

[@michaelmatera2853]

Hi I enjoyed your video nice amount of entertainment with valuable knowledge:-) I was wondering if you could help me identify a Porsche design chrono I have. It has elements of a military model and has small lume indices similar to iwc. At first I thought it was a redial aftermarket but I’ve seen about three or four other watches with this same dial. Utopia if you could help me out at all ? Thanks

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hey Michael! Thanks for stopping by to say hello and for the kind words. Happy to help. Hit me up on Instagram and send me the pics. We'll have a look together. Cheers, D

[@930bert]

great video, really enjoyed listening! Just sent you a DM as well since I have one question about these..

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hey Robert! Thanks for stopping by and the kind words. Connect with you on IG. Best, D

[@AVMD83]

Hi very nice video, I have a 7750 orfina and I am looking to complete my set because I don’t have the original pd round black box in which they came in, by any chance do you know where can I buy one from ? Thank you !

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello and thank you for stopping by to say hello and the kind words! I haven't seen them for sale by themselves. I say hunting everyday is the way to go. Key word "orfina" is usually how I hunt. If I see one pop I'll come back to this chat and let you know. Cheers, D

[@AVMD83]

@@HobbyOfHours hi thank you for your reply ! Just out of curiosity, I have a very early model orfina ref 7750 with the orfina letters Mario Andretti one in very good original state nothing refurbished just serviced, I am pilot myself and I’ve been looking for the actual top gun American model pd 7750, by any chance do you know someone that would like to do a trade or sale the timepiece ?

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@AVMD83 Heya. I don't. Though I do know people out there don't know what they have from what they don't have. Meaning....the one you have (1 km on the tachymeter) is the original and first one. It will always be valuable. Keep it, bank it. Then do what I do....hunt daily for other ones. They pop. And often for under 2.5k, if not under 2k. Everyone is still chasing the Lemania 5100 models and those are claiming the big tickets. Once more people see my video LOL the true Top Gun's (1 Mile) will be the ones worth the big bucks. The new frontier here is beat up ones that are cheap enough such that a service on top of the buy cost is still less than the going rate of one in great condition. Leverage a seller down to 1.3k ish, then factor in a 650.00 service or under and you are all set brother. LMK how you do out there and we'll see you at the finish line on those open auctions!! Best, D

[@AVMD83]

@@HobbyOfHours absolutely right ! Will keep it for a while, if by any chance you know someone’s who wants to sell or trade please let me know ! Hey man the top gun intro was just spot on !👌🏻 brilliant !

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@AVMD83Will do. And thanks. My buddy didn't recognize the music at first. LOL. Have a great Saturday!! I'm off to get some coffee.

[@frankbaumann5923]

simply kraudam the beginning of the video!

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hi Frank, thank you for stopping by to say hello! I tried to look up the word "kraudam" but couldn't find it. I hope it means you enjoyed the video and had some laughs. Have a great week! All the best, D

[@raym7642]

Great video...many thanks. Do you have any other recommendations for repairing them. I have tried to contact SJR but with no luck. Joe said......"Hi Ray, I'm not very familiar with the Porche Design brand but we will give you an estimate for free if you want to send us the watch to take a look at it."

[@HobbyOfHours]

hello! do you have a Valjoux 7750 or Lemania 5100 movement version? If Valjoux 7750, tell Joe you saw SJR on my channel and that I've sent you. If Lemania 5100, contact Leo at SecondTimeAroundWatchCo.com and ask him. Those are my two "contacts" in servicing. Let me know how it goes.

[@HobbyOfHours]

And thank you for the kind words!!

[@raym7642]

​@@HobbyOfHours Many thanks! I believe it is a 7176. 1km. French Day Wheel. pd logo over the window Not sure about the movement.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@raym7642 7176 is the general reference number for all of the original models. Does it have a 24 hr scale at the 12 o'clock subdial (Lemania 5100), OR does it have a 30 minute totalizer there (10, 20, 30) (Valjoux 7750) ?

[@raym7642]

@@HobbyOfHours The latter..so its a Valjoux 7750....cool...thanks mate!

[@unclejack168]

I own a P6540 chronograph which is I'm always proud of even though most of my watch collector friends known nothing about it

[@HobbyOfHours]

Glad to hear you are enjoying it even tho your watch buds don't know about it. I can't put my finger on why I'm so obsessed with this watch/brand. Yeah, I'm a Top Gun fan, but it's crazy. Even the first one I hunted I obsessively scoured the internet until I got it. All the best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours Now search for Genuine Special Force Chronosport UDT type 1 that Stallone wear in First Blood Part II & Rambo III. Good luck...

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 Never heard of that one, thanks. As I look it up, seems to be a contemporary of the Seiko Arnold and Breitling Pluton from Point Break.

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours actually the UDT type 1 is the world first ana-digi watch ever made (Eta Swiss movement) a true piece of history , omega rare

[@markhamilton3215]

one P6510 sold for $2k couples days ago.

[@petermller9857]

Not French date wheel but Italian GIO = Giovedì = Thursday

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hi Peter, thank you for stopping by to offer the correction. I must have misspoken. Have a great weekend!! All the best, D

[@unclejack168]

Oh and your collection in radical bro

[@HobbyOfHours]

thanks for stopping by to say so! These can still be had affordably and I advocate for grabbing them as investments as able. Have a great weekend btw!!

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours since the new movie is DEFINITELY not the hit of the 80's...im pretty sure the price will start to drop on theses vintages in the next 2-3 years. so buying them over $1,500 is radicaly crazy in my opinion.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 Hmm, everything I've heard about TG2 is that it's crushing it at the box office. Be that as it may, it's not really going to make or break the watches in retrospect. There's enough brand history etc, that i will always feel these should be in the 4-6k range when found in great shape. Time will certainly tell. All the best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

@HobbyOfHours please make another video about the 1 mile valjoux 7750 model with a lots of top gun content I can provide bunch of HD movie screen showing the watch in all scenes if you need. Im TOTALLY Shocked to discover the accuracy of the 7750 (my first ever) ...a 1973 build movement that never got any service from the previous owner that is MORE ACCURATE than all my ETA 2824-2 bought NEW 10 years ago ! (why ???) Also can you learn us more specs about the valjoux 7750 versus the Lemania 5100 and if its really dangerous for the movement to let the chrono running on the 7750 , the amount of limit time we should not go over letting the chrono running etc etc , it would be extremely appreciated since i guess any Orfina Porsche Design Valjoux 7750 will became highly regarded on youtube in 2022 and after

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hey Mark! It's so nice to meet another collector who loves these as much as I do. I was surprised for years that no one was covering them and why they could be had for 1,200 for so long. Not anymore of course. It is my favorite chrono so will likely come back for more coverage. Probably when Top Gun 2 comes out on blu ray i imagine. I wasn't able to watch spot properly in the theater. Not sure how much footage I can include in a video before getting a strike tho. We'll have to see then. Thank you for taking the time to write me! All the best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours we only see the orfina (new one i presume) for 1 sec during the entire movie... its ridiculous the think where tom cruise mention he had to got the watch back from the producer of the 1986 version for this one when its clearly a brand new case/bracelet and they didnt care of shooting the watch dial for a single second !

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 agreed. i remember the promos and could tell the watch in TG2 had no wear to the bracelet whereas in TG1 it was clearly worn. Crazy.

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours Please dee , your ultimate Orfina "1 miles" top gun theme long detailled video using both movie clips/stills/music ..... that will be a HUGE hit on your channel !

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 Hey Mark, Hope you've been well! Thanks for the feedback. Another short PD video is coming soon. The big TG2 video is in development, though I've got a lot more to work on before then. The bluray releases in December. Looking forward to doing it. All the best, D

[@NikonFM2n]

We've got a (pd) store here in Miami. I always stop by to ogle their different designs and configuration.

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hello! Thanks for stopping by. I went to the PD store in LA back in Sept. Cool stuff. I'm in love with their older watches it seems. :) All the best, D

[@NikonFM2n]

@@HobbyOfHours I'm going to send you the link to a the IDGUY channel reviewing a (pd) watch that I really like. Enjoy.

[@NikonFM2n]

@@HobbyOfHours kzbin.info/www/bejne/fl7adqybg7GNecU&feature=share

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@NikonFM2n i love iD GUY. I didn't catch his PD episode, send it on over! best, D

[@markhamilton3215]

Funny when you realize Tom Cruise was wearing a Rolex Sea-Dweller before the meeting with the commander on the carrier ...and have the orfina while standing in front of him...lol

[@HobbyOfHours]

spoilers....i haven't seen it yet! LOL

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours you can clearly see the plan when he is landing on the carrier and decide to full throttle to go search the other...exactly when he push the trottle handle : You have to pause the image of course.

[@magickawaiiminuts8948]

Tcm mangusta vs iwc porsche design uguali

[@HobbyOfHours]

ciao! grazie per avermi visitato. non ho mai sentito parlare di quell'orologio da polso prima. Bellissimo!

[@zillsburyy1]

i have their new book PORSCHE DESIGN 50 YEARS

[@HobbyOfHours]

Sweet, me too! Saving it for a book review to tie in to my visit to their store. Got to see and hold the titanium watch! Thanks for stopping by to say hello. Have a great weekend! D

[@magickawaiiminuts8948]

L unico cronografo che ha un gemello è iwc porsche design titanio vs tcm mangusta titanio....

[@HobbyOfHours]

ciao! grazie per avermi visitato. non ho mai sentito parlare di quell'orologio da polso prima. Bellissimo!

[@markhamilton3215]

at 11min12sec of the video : "having the tom cruise moto on the back...cool" actually on the Dan Henry Toys Watch its a Ducati 750 Imola Desmo medal (70's) and definitely NOT the Tom Cruise's Kawasaki GPz900R.

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hey Mark, thanks for stopping by to say hello. My buddy pointed out the same thing. I appreciate the correction. Surprising why Dan Henry put that bike on the caseback as it doesn't seem related at all. Cheers, D

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours yep , doesn't related at all to top gun ...a shame

[@markhamilton3215]

@@HobbyOfHours it is true that the bracelet are not made of stainless steel ? (Dan Henry 1972) a lots of people complain that under the PVD coating they are seeing like nickel-copper color thing on the material ..... ?!

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 it's odd if you think about it. So much detail paid to a specific watch within a period and then to have a random bike instead of the one that was in the film. Need to ask him about it LOL.

[@HobbyOfHours]

@@markhamilton3215 first i'm hearing of it, that is a bit odd for sure. any pictures?

[@magickawaiiminuts8948]

Terra cielo mare modello mangusta titanium uguale al iwc porsche design....tcm sono gli ex importatori per l italia di iwc

[@HobbyOfHours]

ciao! grazie per avermi visitato. non ho mai sentito parlare di quell'orologio da polso prima. Bellissimo!

[@keithwest7480]

Hey chap - great videos. I have messaged you on Instagram, wanting to pick your knowledgeable brains if possible. Many thanks

[@HobbyOfHours]

Hi Keith! Thanks for stopping by and the kind words. I just checked IG, i don't see any messages? Can you give me your handle so I can look up that way? Happy to help. Best, D

[@HobbyOfHours]

please disregard....I found it. Replying now. :)