[Basics] Introduction to Tanking 1/5

[@TheSmartin102]

Im glad i found this. I suffer from crippling anxiety when trying to tank. I sit hovering over the join group button and not pushing it and just logging off instead because i cannot get myself to push that button. I like the tanking classes though and this anxiety is stopping me from enjoying the game. I know it will take me some time to get over this, but im glad i found this video.

[@stev5293]

7 years later... how's it going?

[@TheSmartin102]

@stev5293 haha. Actually pretty good. Tanking anxiety is all but gone!

[@xsvmalice8541]

I had a friend check out your channel and it got him back into legion. preach saving the community one vid at a time

[@pnksmigge5324]

Same thing happened to me when I found him 2 weeks ago :)

[@dimigust3753]

"Get out there and start making mistakes, otherwise you will not get good" is a good advice for most thing you wanna do but is afraid of

[@StefanGriffinMusic]

As a tank, I have to say that this is Such an amazing video. I need to share this with a few people for sure. Thanks preach!

[@benp9793]

np

[@baldmidget2139]

You are a TANK bruv.

[@Greymerk]

One useful trick is to focus target your healer. You see a bold marker on your mini-map showing where the healer is, but also shows the frame and mana bar on your screen, as well as healer's target (usually). I move my focus frame closer to the middle of my screen so it's easier to see with peripheral vision.

[@hibiscus779]

what is focus?

[@Nobleshield]

Just found this and while it's from a few years ago it's still all good advice. I used to tank for years from Wrath when I started until around Siege of Orgrimmar in MOP. After that, I just got tremendous anxiety and even fear thinking of tanking because I only recently came back to the game at the very end of legion/start of BFA. Everything seems more go go go heavy now and people seem to be even less patient than ever before so it really makes me reluctant to give tanking a go again because I hate "failing" or feeling like I messed up, and people tend to be rude or unforgiving even if you say you haven't done the dungeon or you're new to tanking or haven't tanked in years, etc.

[@PasOdMater]

When I first started playing MMORPGs I played as a DPS for the first few months cause I didn't really know what I was doing at the time. After joining one too many group with a tank that couldn't hold aggro, or just made stupid mistakes, I decided to study tanking for myself and try it out, cause I was convinced I could do it better. Since then I've been tanking for 10+ years and haven't looked back. I enjoy setting the pace of the group and leading in dungeons/raids. If you think you'd enjoy that too, give tanking a chance.

[@irhynotastygaming9535]

This is exactly why I made the switch in Cata from my Rogue to DK. I could either spend my time bitching about tanks like the other players of control the situation and tank for myself. I've never regretted the decision.

[@raeesgaba9270]

I don't even need an introduction to tanking, I just wanted something to watch whilst I eat my frosties.

[@liammurphy7140]

Got to love the time saving routes through the instance. Fast and smooth. Love it.

[@Atromnis]

Another thing if you're pugging as a new tank: let the group know you're new. It sounds scary, but most people will accept that you stood up to the plate to tank, and they will offer advice. Especially tell them to let you know if you need to pick up the pace/slow it down. 9/10 times the healer will get your back and walk you through it. Healers and Tanks watch out for each other.

[@Drakedrage]

As an experienced warrior tank, I can approve of this stuff. Being overgeared in compare to Heroics, I can pull several groups of enemies by using revenge's cleave to multi-bleed groups of enemies. The bleed on it's own can hold aggro for a long time.

[@chrisburfoot5603]

This is great, Preach! Tutorial videos like this are really encouraging for players a little anxious to do certain content and branch from their comfort zones. Keep it up!

[@iceblaze93]

2 things that triggers me as a tank: - When the dps pulls for me and i ask him not to but he keeps doing it. - When the dps DECIDES how many adds i am tanking by pulling additional ones. Usually this is the point where I let him die.

[@Martyn_92]

iceblaze93 God I never felt someone harder than u. Those 2 things trigger me into a new world.

[@LukeCantWin]

depends on what you're doing if its just an ez pz random heroic pull the entire dungeon its pointless to sit around between pulls and pull one mob at a time

[@AstolfoGayming]

If I'm on my main and someone pulls (Unless it's something that's hard to skip), they can get fucked. I'm already doing fast, big pulls, and if they're not satisfied with that, they can fuck right off. If however I'm on my alt and leveling/gearing/learning how to play it, I'l be going a lot slower and as a result I'm generally fine with people pulling, as long as it's not silly mobs that we don't need to pull

[@Chopstorm.]

I'll be honest, if I'm on my healer and I see a tank doing pulls that are a snooze fest for me, I'll pull more. While it's ok to be cautious, in many cases all you're doing is slowing down the run.

[@iceblaze93]

Well then tell the tank to pull more instead of doing it yourself.

[@Sameji]

I used to tank in MMOs all the time, but nowadays I'm too nervous. Mostly I'm worried I won't set a proper pace, 'specially if I focus on Mythic+.

[@NvaderGaming]

yesterday i tanked Trials of Valor with my guild, was shaking the whole raid xD i was so nervous, didnt want to mess things up

[@mechwarrior5]

You gotta just go for it. Eventually you'll get over the fear and it'll be easy.

[@teilo1339]

almost nobody will stick up for the pace they want to move at, if you get someone like that just set them as focus or in general keep an eye on them and aggro anything they pull, changing pull size to accommodate them in the future, its easy to work out if you over or under pulled through the first few groups and those groups usually provide little to no risk of a wipe anyway.

[@nathanmoon5891]

A proper pace is simply moving to the next group after you kill the group before. You get all kinds in dungeon queues so you will get people who like to move fast and stragglers who are always playing catch up. The stragglers don't matter to much if they are dps as long as you are only pulling trash but if it's a healer it can be problematic. At the end of the day, they have to follow your pace or they will die.

[@maximumaut712]

try it with your friends or guild members, people you trust. I can tank mythic + like nothing with my friends. just give it a shot.

[@chriswoodward7609]

Can't say enough to regularly check your healers mana. Don't run off pulling new mobs when tour healer is out. Oh and line of sight!

[@Johndoe-gd4tb]

Chris Woodward I have to vent. My best friend is a tank . In every other aspects he’s a good tank, but this drives me crazy. He never checks healers mana or if everyone is ready, he just pulls (so I guess not that good of a tank lol). I tell him all the time and he just laughs but god damn it’s so irritating. Hell joke like “haha gotta hurry up bro”. I’m like dude just fucking take a second to check. Sorry that shirt is so triggering lol

[@20TheGame09]

john doe dude you couldn’t speak the truth any better. My gf and I both play and were doing a time walking instance last weekend and the tank kept doing that exact shit, got to one and we kept wiping because he would constantly pull mobs without checking to see if anyone in the group was ready as well as not checking my gf toon’s mana. I (a dps destro lock) ended up having to pull mobs off of him and run my tank pet as well as my infernal since he would die within the first few seconds of a boss. Tanks need to make sure that everyone in the party is ready.

[@theJollyPaleGiant]

Not sure if you get notifications for older videos BUT just wanted to thank you and let you know that this series helped me a lot! I've also been listening to your Healer guide while playing on my Tank. Understanding every role has improved my gameplay all around. Even though I've been a Free Trial account(veteran technically-I think) for quite some time, I thoroughly enjoy farming dungeons on LFG just for fun. Hope you're well and enjoying the little things in life! Much love from Indiana, USA!

[@theamazingerr8237]

dude thank you. i have been nervous to tank for the obvious reasons. But i watched all your videos and I tanked Auchindoun on my Monk alt and it was a success. i even had one of the DPS message me after (he was level 99 I was 94) and we became friends. I just wanted to let you know thank you! You guides on tanking have already helped me a lot! I've only done one...on a monk that is my alt lol but I can apply the same tactics to my ret pally I'm about to switch to a port pally for life, .so thank you preacher! you make this easy for even a noob like me that has been playingg on and off since the start of BC

[@jasonthoreen3188]

I was a little nervous about getting into tanking as my druid at first but this video series helped me alot. And after my friend watched the healing series we are a druid duo in the dungeons. Thanks Preach 😀

[@scaflok]

Good to see you back to teaching, Preach. Right on! And more please.

[@TheHatedMan81]

Goddamn good video preach. Was waiting for this one.

[@misawa8629]

The best advice i've ever seen for being nervous as a new tank or healer, is to start on low level vanilla dungeons. The mechanics aren't complicated at all, but enough still exist for you to learn how to dodge and pull aggro. The dungeons are also typically small and straight forward enough where wiping isn't a big deal at all. Also starting as a dps so you can see how other tanks and healers operate in the field can help.

[@banfoxsinofgreed8]

I just started to tank for my first time ever in WoW. Mainly DPS and healer for me, but i got to say im liking tanking. Thank you for making this series Preach. Its because of this series that I decided to give tanking a try. :)

[@tcorninptown]

great vid preach, i really agree about just jumping in and start tanking, messing up is the best way to get better. Only i would add for all of the dps out there thinking about tanking or healing, is that you need to be able to handle pressure well, and you need to have pretty good reaction time.

[@sebastiansonne2397]

a BIG POINT when starting to tank mythic+ is knowing the dungeon, being confident that after that last boss you're going to be at 100% enemy forces. A tank can single handedly destory a keystone run, which may make tanking seem even scarier - but it's really not. Look up tanking POV's on youtube for the dungeon, read a few guides on the different dungeons/skips/%% so you can step in there comfortably, and know that you know your shit. This is also great for confidence, as you can step in a group and be "that guy" who will get you through this shit no problem, and ain't no puny dps gonna tell you otherwise. If you know the correct routes all you have to do is decide which pace is right for the group, and you'll be doing 3 chest runs in no time. Happy tanking!

[@urcle3704]

Tip for tanks. Don't chain pull unless your healer is okay with it. Your healer might need mana and if you keep pulling with out any chance to drop out of combat he can't.

[@kubba007]

shadowmeld, also if the healer runs out of mana each pack, you can just go on without him.

[@urcle3704]

Leaffierino Kripperino Rofl. Because everyone plays night elf? "go on witih out him". You only do heroics dont you? Try "going on with out them" in mythic 10 mate.

[@kubba007]

Most healers roll druid nightelf and it's not like you're going to take pala or disci on 10+. If a healer I pick on 10 runs out of mana each pack it's a deplete, since he won't heal out a boss on tyrannical and even on forti packs aren't that strong, also did a lot without a healer on 10 kiting and doing 300k+ healing helps

[@urcle3704]

***** I wasn't assuming anything. Even in heroics you shouldnt run off with out your healer. Give the guy a few secs to get mana if hes asked for it.

[@kubba007]

***** you are right, my bad

[@Eyearenub]

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[@CerberusMalt]

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[@syrasto]

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[@Carionoso7416]

HOLLA BALLERRRRRRRRRS!

[@relimiting]

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[@Retkikaappi]

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[@j800r]

Different roles, different perspectives. I recently got into healing and i find i got one of two groups. Either: Smooth run, tank knows what they're doing. Moves at a decent pace but doesn't pull more than they can handle, deeps know their shit and i mostly only have to concentrate on the tank and even then can occasionally throw in some attacks. Or: Tank massively overpulls and outpaces and loses aggro or misses a mob, deeps don't know which way is up. I'm sweating bullets trying to keep up with the MASSIVE amounts of health being lost group-wide while struggling to even keep myself alive due to aggro or missing mechanics because i'm so focused on trying to keep people alive. Unfortunately the latter type is far more common. Tanks after a "smooth run" wind up hindering the run due to taking on far more than the group can handle. This assessing the group thing is great advice that I wish more tanks did. Also, getting kicked shouldn't be the end of the world but there seems to occasionally be this bug where you'll get the deserter debuff even from being kicked meaning a 30 minute wait. In that scenario, ragequitting is practically the only choice. (Except last time with healer I made good use of the time by running trials. Passed up to silver but not quite nailed gold.) What's always terrified me from getting into tanking is people expecting you to rush. When you're new to tanking you may not be confident enough to move at a fast pace and as such you'll wanna take your time and pull smaller groups of mobs.

[@Tuupoification]

Thanks for the video Preach. I have never played as a tank but solely as a healer. I understand the basic mechanics of tanking for sure, but it would be nice to see videos like "What to know about tanking from healers point of view" with some in-depth tips. Especially class-specific advice what comes to different tank classes and how they work.

[@Rattja]

"Your tanking has to adapt based on your group environment"

[@motox20]

I find the best thing to do in a PUG if your new to tanking or don’t know the route is just say so, say “don’t know route, just let me know which way” and almost every time someone will say “no prob”. I just came back to WoW after quitting during Cata and when I tell a group “Hey, just returned to the game and I don’t know the dungeons yet” they are usually cool about it, they’ll mark and let me know any special mechanics or specific mobs to Target first, etc. A lot of times pugs will expect the tank to take the lead, so if your not comfortable with that just tell them and it’ll be rare that’s it’s a problem.

[@Redwud3381]

I love that you did this video as your brewmaster. I've seen one brewmaster in my dungeons so far.

[@1Souleater11]

Been playing wow for three years now and only a few days ago decided to try out tanking, this video was very helpful, thank you.

[@namrepmek]

Thanks Preach, really loved my Guardian Druid but was very reluctant to go back in; however, these videos giving me some good feels to try again!

[@xspireddreams]

I've definitely been kicked a lot in LFG / Mythic (no keystone) as a DPS whom is trying to help aid the pace of the dungeon by pulling in a controlled / sensible manner - some people really don't like this happening when they are tanking. In terms of learning curve I appreciate that this 'ninja pulling' is personal preference. I've generally stopped doing this and resorted to asking for an increase in pace or to provide some tips which hopefully will speed up the flow of the action. As a tank main, my advice for improving play would be to time yourself in instances and always try to beat your time for the next run. The key is to not just try and speed through with bad play but to play well and be efficient with your abilities in order to make the run smoother, and usually faster. I also do this whilst leveling, it makes LFG leveling way more enjoyable as you can get some of the later expansion instances down to 8/9 minute times which is super fun to speed through these huge instances.

[@murphydaveelte]

Cheers for the guide - just trying to get into tanking and the big thing for me is getting over the "what if I mess up factor" - good advice, thanks!

[@saltymuffin2472]

Now lets get a guide to get into a raiding guild as a tank!

[@AstolfoGayming]

"Too late, they already have their tanks" or "Make your own" Getting into an established guild as a tank is really fucking hard, and the only way you can really reliably replace one of them, is if they're needing replacement anyway (They're shit, they're not there, etc.) Though you can try having a word with the GM/RL about wanting to tank and if there's a chance you can get the spot for something like farm where it doesn't really matter.

[@richardmathes4383]

SaltyMuffin yeah getting into an established guild as a tank is almost impossible. I managed to do it but only because the main tank was wanting to go DPS for Legion so I just replaced him as main tank. Most generally established guilds have tanks already and you're not gonna get their spot unless something comes up.

[@nioxic77]

SaltyMuffin this is my issue as well.. i find dps boring. and healers cant really do much alone tbh if i wanna focus on one spec.. ive been unguilded for a while

[@domiflex1568]

try the hardest way :) keep your eyes open for recruitment from guilds who's looking for members to make a raid squad. every week there are new born guilds who mostly will fail faster than they build it up... but who knows, maybe you picked a good one out. imo i think that the tanks are the hardest spots to keep for a raid squad or not.

[@mikekelly1957]

It may be hard, but if you get into a guild that is sizable there may be many opportunities for you to tank for groups. That way you can establish yourself as a consistent, reliable & competent tank. Then you could be invited to off-tank and finally MT raids. Patience it the key to nearly all success with all things.

[@CoachNezzy]

As someone who interested in tanking, I did some bear tanking back in cata in a shit guild, But now as I decide on rerolling tanking on my warrior is something I'm seriously considering. I definitely plan on using this series to ease me back into it.

[@Huemongous]

Thank you for this series preach really helped me get into tanking

[@Xsetsu]

Great video. Just started tanking so this is perfect. I have been a dps for ages and it feels good to try something else for a change.

[@KhalainBear]

Thank's Preach this is awesome, Since legion started I've had a real pig of a time sticking to a class, but one I've really enjoyed pve wise is (and i know to some people it's not great) is my prot pally, i dont know why i just like it, I've tanked in the past either pally or druid and mostly it's been good but occasionally you do get those experiences that make you think "why should I bother" Legion still feel's fresh to me at the moment so I'd love to jump into tanking again, vid's like this help so thank you :)

[@NitricGames]

crazy you put this out yesterday. it was my first time trying tank yesterday ever in game. I was actually nervous but if you tell the group ahead of time they are pretty understanding. now I'm loving tank spec on my pally. please release a more advanced tanking video preach so I can get some more info

[@ZeriocTheTank]

Glad to see a tank video on the channel again. Hopefully we'll see more in the future.

[@grmasdfII]

My brother fairly recently started playing WoW for the first time ever and got me back into it after a long, long pause, naturally for them Q times I rolled a tank - looking forward to this series, particularly concerning Mythic+. Just getting in there certainly helped (with only 1 real cretin along the way), even tanked a few EN heroic bosses already, but Mythic+ above 6 just seems really daunting to me. (particularly the just now freshly unlocked Arcway/Court of Stars, which suddenly are on Keystones...but I can't even find the bosses in, yet ;) )

[@ianhorne9594]

Reminds me when I started doing raids as a dps back in wotlk, I was nervous AF because ive only done raids as a healer since TBC and I was nervous as hell my first naxx raid as a dps xD

[@Terrados1337]

He is preaching the truth again! Nice baseline guide :) And for all of you masochist tanks out there: Please don't be offended when a DPS pulls something in a heroic dungeon. They probably just wants to get the artifact power at the end. They won't pull too much, since they just want to speed through. While most players won't write in chat, they will still react to what others write. So if the deeps-train is getting out of hand a simple: "Stop!" might just do it. Most people are actually not dickish but just annoyed that they have to derp through a dungeon that drops poop loot just to get artifact power

[@peekatyou7315]

The only think thats been holding me back from tanking is the fact that my guild already has more than enough. Id never be able to get a raid spot, but this video made it look pretty fun so i might start leveling a tank again anyway, thanks preach!

[@hairgel5]

Great video preach, was only just considering getting back into the tanking game this video game at the perfect time

[@clickgaming2606]

Just got back into tanking since wotlk, thanks for the tips, cant wait for more on the series

[@Wheel_of_Kain]

The only time I'm not taking aggro off the dps is when it's a hunter with a taunting pet. Sure first time it happens I'll ask them to turn it off, and usually it happens, but if it doesn't, 3 strikes and I'll let the mob kill his pet and him potentially. That shit is just triggering me.

[@VIDEOxGAMER18]

edgy pic and name m8

[@jolt187]

Well, the more damage going onto the pet means the less damage going onto you, I suppose.

[@iceee420]

Kain Bloodshower I don't care if people pull, pets pulls with taunt, it means little. Bloodboil, heart strike and move on. if the pet is tanking just less damage I'm taking. I'm going to be second threat after the taunt anyway if the pet dies so it's going to be my mob again anyway

[@General12th]

don't cut yourself on that edge there, bud

[@meyaenyo2593]

A pet's taunt can never over take a tank's taunt. pet's growl just does not matter if the tank is hitting the monster.

[@rhodey4759]

absolutely love tanking,since wrath I have rotated 3 tanks,warrior pally and druid,for me in every expansion 1 of those 3 have been the top tank. I love the responsibility and pressure of tanking and I don't think I will ever change. My first ever toon was a hunter through BC ( which I still have just for the nostalgia 😂) but when I started tanking I knew that was the only role I was going to do from then on

[@arthastas]

¡Tottaly Agree! Learning what the tank is doing is the core of M+(higher lvls at least), like you said it will increase the healing output and dps. I think the fear to tank has intensified this xpac, becouse every one notice a bad tank inmidiatly. From my personal experience if you can tank M+8 you can (capability wise, you might still need good gear)tank everthing that's currently live. Enjoying M+ myself specially when i can run them with 2 or 3 friends at least. :)

[@magnusmansson7279]

After watchin this serie i decided to level my druid.After hitting level 110 i decided to spec for tank,havent tanked in a major way for several years,so its a nice switch. My goal with this guardian druid is to do some 5-man content and see how far i can get (+7-10 maybe). At this point i am doing +3 and +4 and the other day i got my first legendary (neck) wich is BiS (i think atleast). So,thank you Preach for making this serie,you made me start tanking again and im really enjoying the game!!

[@acecondor289]

Thank you for pointing out to keep track on your healer. As some one who main heals there is nothing more aggravating than those tanks zip ahead with movement abilities (looking at you Monks and DH) and then get angry with you because they died after being way of healing range.

[@bencollier1540]

YES! Please, please, please bring on the really advanced videos!

[@Valaron748]

I was looking for a guide like this back in MoP. Hopefully this helps a few people get over the initial hurdle.

[@nickswf]

After 6 + years I came back to wow and this anxiety is real. I just had the DPS pull mobs ahead of me and wasn’t offended. I’m getting better with 3 dungeons under my belt lol. I’m so used to the vanilla days where things were slower and more tactical

[@Fenzha]

I have a 858 prot warrior through WQs etc and i havent tanked any group content. I know i can probably do it but i just cant bring myself to queue for a dungeon as a tank.

[@mrsinbad6048]

At that ilvl you could do normal and heroics in a breeze. The best advice i can give is to just yolo it like preach said in the vid the worse that can happen is you get kicked. best thing to do once you get into a dung is pull the first pack and see how quickly it goes down if its quick then you should know to pull 1-2 groups with little to no problem. Holding threat is alot easier then people think just charge in and use thunder clap with some cleave and you'll never lose aggro. if want some help or would like a healer to help carry hit me up im a 863 mw monk if you want my btag just reply.

[@ianamores]

I just recently picked up tanking as well. The best recommendation is just to try at it. You won't get kicked trust me. If anything they will blame the healer:) I recommend talenting 'Crackling Thunder' as well, so you help to increase the radius of your thunder clap. It really helps in grabbing aggro. Make sure you use revenge once in awhile. Also if you're using ElvUI be sure to turn on your tank plates so you know when the enemies health turn green you have dropped aggro.

[@nathanmoon5891]

You won't have any issues in normal or heroics. As long as you are rolling Shield Block, a decent amount of groups will have a hard time eating through a full Ignore Pain. Use Shockwave to help give you some time to generate rage and don't be afraid to use Demo Shout for big trash pulls.

[@salimosman8188]

Glen go for it..I prot myself...when it's good..it's brilliant..

[@tbuksuperfly]

don't know why people are talking about normals/heroics.. at 858 you're good for starting mythic+. I guess it's possibly more not wanting to do it in pugs? I'm the same, I hate queuing with randoms. If they're not talking garbage and being abusive, then it's utter silence. Thankfully I have a small guild of friends that we do mythic+ in (and the odd raid if we get 10 people online which is rare) I'd recommend finding a casual mythic+ guild and get to know the people there.. once you're confident in the people you're with, you'll find grouping and tanking far less stressful.

[@XxNaccoxX]

Thank you preach! believe it or not this inspired me to make a tank today! it really feels like I've been missing a 1/3rd of the game. plus I only started healing in mop so after 11 years I am just no experiencing fully what this game has to offer!!

[@eXileLies]

You can also increase the speed in a dungeon if you, as a tank, move for your DPS. If a DPS can just stand and press buttons without moving etc., the dungeon will be over faster & a good DPS will notice that. It is basically the first step towards a Raid / Mythic+ Guild - Preach said that before; If you stand out with your play-style - whether you have gear or not - some people will notice that.

[@mad-eel]

I really like tanking in Legion, especially with my group on Mythics+ although some of the affixes seem a bit overwhelming to handle them properly. This is really good video on basics, would like to see more on advanced methods.

[@michaelryan1767]

Thanks for the vid Preach, I've been wanting to get into tanking for a while - first time I ever tanked was on mythic+2 Serpentrix cos as a DK, I wasn't a mobile enough DPSer for the adds (or that's what they told me, anyway). Was nervous as hell but actually had fun, so after watching this I might try to queue tank for an entire heroic :)

[@shoobror8291]

are you gonna make a healing one aswell? :D

[@catherineberger5541]

Preach, thanks for these videos! I'm a healer, but I'm going to be a better healer because I understand what my tank is doing and why!

[@wowantonlavey]

Instead of guide for each spec, i think role specific guides are more in line now. Like this. A melee dps ranged dps tank heal guide etc.

[@shoddyaerodrome7586]

Great stuff Preach, looking forward to more like this

[@amyhuntingwolf387]

Wonderful vid very helpful wish I had something like this when I first started tanking many moons ago :) keep up the great work

[@OlaInTheClouds]

Oh yea, this 100% healer just got loads of blanks filled in. Now I'm getting serious gearing my paladin for tanking when necessary. Also, I understand tanks better. Very useful thanks!

[@MediaDevil505]

I would like a guide on default raid UI for tanks. Like how to split groups. Tank swapping. Off tanking All that. Five mans I understand. Get aggro. Burn down trash. Move boss out of stuff. But setting up 25 people in a raid seems daunting. Any advice would be great. Thank you sir. Always love your videos.

[@Gulvfisk]

Was in Halls of Valor Mythic pug today. In the dungeon was a Warr dps that ninjapulled and since i was far ahead, the around ilvl 820 pala healer died. Warr did not care and just continued pulling everything, regardless if they were skipable or not (they obviously were considering i was in front) and in the end i had to let him die, just to give the healer a chanse to catch up before he pulled Fenryr. He then started to yell at me and my tanking (not gonna say what he said here) for letting him die, and claimed he was only helping me pull so it would be faster. When i informed him that his pulling killed the healer and a mage, and going without healer and a dps is not faster, he shouted some more, said that he had reported me, and heartstoned without leaving group. "Pugs are the best place to learn about tanking -- because people do crazy fu**** sh** in Pugs"

[@73mpn]

As a Melee main, I have to say while I agree with the "threat cap" comments, its a pain in the ass in a mostly melee group when the tank decides to fuck off to the next group and drags all the mobs with them. You are correct that we can't pull the mobs off them, but its partly because the mobs are such a pain in the ass to actually dps down if the tank is Bee-lining it to the next boss.

[@TheDbend]

What a coincidence, I create my first warrior and this video pops up. Neato

[@MartijnHvA]

I needed this video. Thank you so much!

[@Sarranuva]

As someone who has 850+ tanking gear just through offspec loot and a fear of dipping my toes into tanking heroics, this video is top notch! BRB - Gonna queue for my first dungeon and get kicked for not handling the first trash pack :D

[@MutjinNinja]

This is actually really helpful. I came from a shit mmo where a good enough dps could pull threat off the tank, so I never even knew about this threat cap. Additionally, I've been wanting to go prot on my warrior, for the exp and for the faster queue pops (lord knows lfg takes forever to find a willing tank). So I'm hoping it's not as hard in wow as it was in my other mmo

[@stefanlippeck6230]

Nice to get my own experiences confirmed XD I do still have one problem sometimes: especially with heal druids. Some of them basicly keep their Hot going on me all the time - Which is nice. But can present a problem for me when a new group is added and my AoE aggro skills are on CD or the group is well spread so i can't reach all mobs with one skill (and the other one is on CD). - My best solution so far is to try to walk with them as they march towards the healer which usually works except if it doesn't... like when the healer is already quite close or something like that. - I'm trying to save my skills for the next group but i mess up too often.

[@ChaosxSpacexMarine]

Thank you preach! I'm embarking on Paladin tanking :) This is definitely a courage booster. :)

[@johnniejackson2375]

I tank off and on, and will occasionally come across something I don't know. Honestly, I just ask my group, or at least let them know from the get go that I am somewhat unexperienced. these days its really dungeon specific. When I first started trying to tank, I would ask my group for feedback/advice at the end. Most all the responses I got were positive, and helpful advice

[@uchihayui]

lol just today I had to stop playing my mage because our tank had pc problems and went to my monk tank. And now this video. Just perfect. Thanks preach!

[@QFrozenAceQ]

Perfect timing @Preach Gaming just rolled Blood DK as sick to death of never finding tanks for groups

[@AngelCPUDD]

What I really don't like about tanking is that you need to know the whole dungeons inside out and it doesn't happen organically, you really need to read guides, watch pros and stuff for ideas. It's like you can't start on normal, heroic, mythic and then mythic+ and learn all the stuff.

[@Strrroke]

Brewmaster tanks are the harderst to heal according to my experience.

[@animehbkscm]

But that's because you try to keep them topped off. Brewmasters thrive with lower health and the damage they take is much smoother than most tanks.

[@mbarko606]

Needed this, looking at getting into Brewmaster tanking, thanks preach

[@DavidToast]

Huh interesting that after Preach mentioning this in his latest video I got it on my frontpage.

[@Thebiglloydtree]

Preach, been watching a while, mostly Drama Friday. Not gonna lie about myself. I'm 30, bad anxiety. Been playing wow for a good 7 years now - you know how it is, moving through different guilds and groups, etc. Well, i've been a ret the WHOLE time. Well, bar part of SoO. I played Ele to bring BL to the table. For the first time i've been actually playing around with Prot and... to a lesser extent, Holy as I have Ashbringer at 35 and figure ''Hey, why not get the others up too?'' To my surprise, i'm actually enjoying prot, almost as much as i've always loved ret. So now i'm starting on your tanking series. One thing I will say is to alleviate anxiety I WILL be bringing pocket heals and DPS from within the guild i'm in... however to make it a little more difficult it WILL be people playing low geared alts. Would you think this kind of offsets that I know the people easing me into it? Or worse, since they know I can be aggressive on Ret, would it make those early runs that bit worse? In any case, if you see this and you read it, thanks man. Love Drama Time, some of those stories are fantastic to listen to while running around with my world quests and stuff. A brofist to you, and to ghost too. :)

[@Kredroth]

First time tanking today, thanks for confidence boost!

[@davidmarks509]

Awesome Percher just what I need as a newbie tank just starting out

[@TheZifrit]

Enjoyable vid as always. Im definitly leveling my Monk tonight tho,looks like so much fun.

[@Artemisthemp]

I try to understand all roles in the game so, I won't have issue with doing the Artifact quest and possibly heal, tank or dps later on, on that character

[@Merlininsider]

You sort of included this in the "check what happens with first pull" but I'd still like to add that you should get a basic check what kind of gear the other members of the group has before you run off. You don't have to inspect them, but at least check their HP to get a basic idea - is this healer able to handle me pulling big or not? If you go into a random heroic, and people are at 1.6M hp (despite the 15% increased hp) you should be a bit more careful, as people will be in blues. If everyone is at 2.5M+, you know things will go much faster. Item level isn't everything, ofc, but it gives you a rough idea. If you use the addon "Simple iLevel", you'll get the avarage iLvL by just hovering over group members (who are close enough) or by clicking a nameplate on a non-group member then hover over it. It's not always 100% accurate, but works most of the time.

[@benedictifye]

making mistakes gives you practice with dealing with things that go wrong :)

[@fullmetalpoitato5190]

My biggest problem in learning to Tank (109 Prot Warrior almost there!) is that I keep ending up in dungeons with 110's that don't like waiting around while I teach myself the dungeons from a Tank's perspective. Like her da der it's a lvling dungeon (for me at least) and I'm in lvling gear and they expect me to mass pull. I know I'll get through it but I don't blame anyone for getting turned off by sourpuss DPS.

[@TheAxisOfPerdition]

mate if you wanna fix those debuff icons on the enemy nameplates go into the elvui settings and increase number of debuffs shown to 8. it'll stop them stretching out of proportion like that.

[@Kiwicrack]

I know it was not the intended outcome of the vid, but this encouraged me to get my Brwm out there and stop being scared. Considering I got the orange chest piece, it would be criminal to bench him.

[@dhelo9583]

this video was rly helpful but in regards to reading certain behaviors, in my experience the people don't rly think too much about there actions, especially in rnd heroics/mythics. for example that ret paly in the video just thought "gogogogo" and not "ok, i can pull this because i can off heal the tank, have serveral offensive and defensive cooldowns, so even if the healer isn't catching up I can controll the situation"

[@TacticalSBR]

I tanked on my Brewmaster all through WoD and had a blast, and now main a Fury Warrior since the release of Legion. I’ve realized there as some terrible tanks out there now.

[@kevinrex7414]

My first toon was a belf prot pally in cata and I had no idea what I was doing. It took me about 3 months to figure out to gem n gear hit n expertise.

[@stalkholm5227]

A VERY basic question for your next tanking vid: How does one perfect range and positioning? I'm used to playing ranged, so when I switch to melee I find myself facing the wrong direction, or being attacked from a different angle, or standing just a little too far away. Is melee range universal? How wide is the cleave arc? Are there more or less effective ways to position or get behind a target? How does one account for adds when positioning? Like I said: VERY basic stuff.

[@red1169]

Learning to tank in PUGs is like learning to drive a car in mid-winter with all the snow and ice in the world. ;)

[@Idividezero]

Chuggernuts...I giggle like a little girl every time I see that name Preach.

[@DustyTheKitty]

Keep an eye on your healer's mana bar, if your going to dive into a large trash pack or pull a boss when your healer is down to like 5%, bit of a dick move on your end. If your not sure just type ''Mana?'', they'll usually let you know.