Predator 224 gets a Mod 2 cam and governor removal

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Black66

Black66

2 жыл бұрын

Predator 224 gets a Mod 2 cam and governor removal
Installed a Mod 2 cam in the Predator-powered Coleman CT200U minibike.
Did a zero to thirty and top speed run to see if the stock rod would hold up to the added RPM?
Coleman CT200U playlist - • Predator 224 versus Pr...
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Parts used -
Predator 224 - www.harborfreight.com/66-hp-2...
MOd 2 cam - www.ebay.com/itm/113721977146...
Header pipe - www.gopowersports.com/header-...
VM22 Mikuni carburetor - www.ebay.com/itm/175423555521
Clutch - www.ebay.com/itm/165372961411
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@rogerrose8220
@rogerrose8220 2 жыл бұрын
Fun watching the progression, Sir! Well done.
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 Жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy, I saw a video where you made a valve compressor tool from another tool BUT I CAN'T FIND IT IN YOUR VIDEOS HELP ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️❓❓❓❓❓❓❓❓
@toddellis3323
@toddellis3323 2 жыл бұрын
That's unbelievable boy have these engines come a long way since the old Tecumseh's of the 60's and 70's. Excellent thorough explanations we who are not very mechanically inclined certainly do appreciate it. Thank you.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !
@bradburton4426
@bradburton4426 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what you are doing. So glad I stumbled on your channel. Not only do you show results of each build, but you explain each step along the way perfectly. You explain the why of each step as well as tips and tricks to avoid major extra work (string in combustion chamber). Every other mod video I have ever seen skips steps, misses footage or can’t explain why they are making the changes they are sharing. You can clearly see the time you put into these videos and your familiarity and skill with what you are doing. Thank you for taking the time to help the rest of us out.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it. I'm happy the videos help . Its fun making them and learning along the way.
@ilm28403
@ilm28403 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your videos testing so many different engine and component configurations. They are fascinating and they have definitely saved me a lot of time and money and have been very influential in my mini bike modification decisions. I'm a newbie with mini bikes, I just bought my first bike 3 days after Christmas from walmart. Its a Realtree/Coleman RT200, it was on clearance for $597 and was a 110% impulse buy. The stock engine was a 196cc manufactured by Tao Motor Company according to the emissions sticker. I was modifying the engine and when I took the side cover off to remove the governor I was shocked when I saw that it had a plastic cam gear. I proceeded with removing the governor and was planning on replacing the cam and a laundry list of other things but ultimately decided not to put any additional time or money in that engine after noticing some pretty significant flaws in the block and head casting. Some areas were paper thin and had what appears to be holes that were filled with those aluminum brazing rods and the flywheel has what look like hairline cracks in it. I ended up buying a Ducar 212 with a PVL flywheel that is rated at 17,000 RPM"s for 1 hour although it does come with an adjustable governor that is factory set at 5500 RPM's. The block and head are thicker and seem to be much more reinforced that any Predator or other 212 engine that I've ever seen. I bought the engine $20 from Dynocams for $202.50 which I feel like was a good buy especially when factoring in the cost that I would have spent just upgrading the cam and flywheel on my original engine. I have noticed that you typically buy a lot of Predators and some Tillotsons. Have you ever had a Ducar 212? I have heard the 224 is made by Ducar but I don't know. I would really love to see what you can do with the Ducar 212 that Dynocams sells, and how it would stack up to the Tillotson 212's that you have built. Next time you are in the market for a new engine you should definitely consider it. Can you provide a link to the amazon/ebay knockoff Mikuni carb that you use? There are quite a few different "VM22" carbs on there and I don't want to order a bad one. I apologize for the long winded comment. Keep making more videos of your builds. I find them more informative than any of the other Mini Bike channels. Thanks again and here is a link to the Ducar 212 that I just bought. You can also purchase a lot of different cams for the 212 directly from Dynocams. I'm not sure how their prices compare to other cam makers but I do know you can call them and talk to their engine builder who will give a lot of advice and suggestions based on what you tell him you're trying to do. All of that stuff is still over my head but hopefully I will get grasp on it soon. www.dynocams.com/item/212-1000/ducar212/
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching the videos. I'm glad they help you out. I'll run a Ducar sooner or later. Haven't gotten around to it yet. The Predator 224 block does look pretty much identical to a Ducar/Tillotson block. Definitely an upgrade from the previous generation Predator. Especially when you consider the 58MM stroke crank that comes in the 224. Definitely worth the extra $40 over the 212 Predator. I use the VM22 carbs because they are inexpensive and easy to tune. There are carbs that will get you more power, like an authentic VM22, but for the price, the imitation versions are a good buy in my opinion. Here is a link for the carb www.ebay.com/itm/194358544642?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
@lizzard7473
@lizzard7473 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my 224 today. Thanks for the torture test! I've been a little worried about revving it too hard.
@keithcola3906
@keithcola3906 2 жыл бұрын
Man you got on this build fast!!!👍🏾 good stuff my friend
@Turbo44mag
@Turbo44mag 4 ай бұрын
I love watching you build mini bikes. That fast top end speed is awesome
@anthonyellis1206
@anthonyellis1206 Жыл бұрын
You have some great videos, love the detail and simplicity to understand and do this at home on my own. Thank you
@danielswierczynski2001
@danielswierczynski2001 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much a perfect build. Awesome. Thanks for sharing.
@scottjoy2094
@scottjoy2094 2 жыл бұрын
Once again another Great video Black66 your videos are awesome and very informative.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jerrydobbins7296
@jerrydobbins7296 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for teaching me how to work on my minibike!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
No problem! Thank you for watching the videos.
@ezekiel8915
@ezekiel8915 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man! That bike is fast💨
@big420ccboiz9
@big420ccboiz9 2 жыл бұрын
I love your video keep the good work up
@Disney_Vixen
@Disney_Vixen 2 жыл бұрын
The cam link says for clone engines - but that is what a 224 needs? Thanks so much! Love how much fun you have!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. it needs the clone stuff
@Contabulator
@Contabulator 2 жыл бұрын
Very fun build! I'm happy you didn't have to walk home😄
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Ya me too...lol
@mrbottomfeeder
@mrbottomfeeder 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff. Thanks 👍👍👍👍
@RAWRMotorsports
@RAWRMotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 📹👍
@stoichiometry147
@stoichiometry147 8 ай бұрын
That’s ridiculous (top speed) on a Coleman. I love it!
@Black66
@Black66 8 ай бұрын
Check out the CT2020U-EX playlist for even faster Coleman bikes kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM
@gloriabauer2392
@gloriabauer2392 2 жыл бұрын
You give good tips.
@Ghost88890REAL
@Ghost88890REAL 2 жыл бұрын
With the tilly flywheel, does that mean you can install an electric start kit?
@bikescarsandmore6156
@bikescarsandmore6156 Жыл бұрын
I'm running almost the same set up but with a cast aluminum flywheel, should I be worried about the rod exploding
@backpackgrams5709
@backpackgrams5709 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Have you seen the others in the playlist? kzbin.info/www/bejne/panLo6KQn6uVZ6M
@danielkosobutskyy3648
@danielkosobutskyy3648 2 жыл бұрын
nice video how much was the engine build
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 2 жыл бұрын
That's funny I was just thinking the other day I should stick my PVL flywheel on my Tilly 212E and put the 212E flywheel on the 224.
@ppipowerclass
@ppipowerclass Жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of these swaps for sale. Quick search lead me to your videos. Looks like they're very easy to work on. Must be pretty cheap too cause there are tons of people doing it.
@troy22nd
@troy22nd 11 ай бұрын
Do you have to remove the governor internally or can you get away removing just the arm/linkage externally?
@REVNUMANEWBERN
@REVNUMANEWBERN 2 жыл бұрын
12:09 So you are self tapping the bolt where the shaving will fall INTO the case! Believe I would of done that B4 putting the side cover on
@savagebio842
@savagebio842 2 жыл бұрын
Black 66 can you do a video on the 223 wildcat vs the predator 224..stock and upgrade.
@s0ulja3li
@s0ulja3li Жыл бұрын
What size are the screws for the governer gear hole and little pin hole
@shortyslim
@shortyslim 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a question.the mod2 cam,did it come out a 212.an can I ask is it a none himi cam are himi cam
@stevenkudrna9463
@stevenkudrna9463 7 ай бұрын
I want to put the mod2 cam in my predator 224. Do i need to install a billet rod? The manufacturer suggests it. I see that you kept the stock rod...what are your thoughts? I have a pz22 carb and a billet flywheel already. Thanks
@robinmiller986
@robinmiller986 2 жыл бұрын
Your Mini bike is now top street legal
@Ja-fh8io
@Ja-fh8io 2 жыл бұрын
I've had one done for a week now lol my local harbor freight got them fast sucks paying top dollar for all the performance parts right now though give it a few months and they'll drop drastically
@AIM762
@AIM762 8 ай бұрын
What did you torque the flywheel to ?
@inthefreytoo
@inthefreytoo 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Nice phone too! Moto G7 Power?
@mademan407
@mademan407 2 жыл бұрын
Quick question, where did you purchase the tilli flywheel? The website or size. Appreciate it
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
it was off of my Tillotson 212e
@keithbrown7088
@keithbrown7088 2 жыл бұрын
Badass
@jesseshelby4383
@jesseshelby4383 2 жыл бұрын
What size was the bolt that u used to plug the oil sensor hole? I am having a hard time finding one that doesn't stick so far into the case?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
I just chop the wire off on the inside and outside. Done.
@craigcove552
@craigcove552 4 ай бұрын
HI Black 66........is the Cam on the 224 the exact same fit as the Clone 196? i heard somewhere its different because the stroke difference will hit the standard cam?...thanks in advance...........also is the end diameter .550?
@Black66
@Black66 4 ай бұрын
Check out the cam fitment video and also the 224 playlist for clearancing the cam. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bILCn5p5mNCUgKs
@trentmulford9141
@trentmulford9141 2 жыл бұрын
Or will my flywheel blow if I remove the governor on my 212 it's a hemi head also Because those aftermarket fly wheels can be a little more expensive than the motor itself
@thefirebirdguy8503
@thefirebirdguy8503 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me how much lift a 224 can handle? Trying to get a fat cam for mine but there it literally no information online about anything
@zachwilliams4037
@zachwilliams4037 4 ай бұрын
Where did you get that header pipe?
@dirtcoast9008
@dirtcoast9008 2 жыл бұрын
Was the cam you installed a MOD 2 Hemi or Non Hemi? I was told by tech at a few reputable shops that the Mod2 Non Hemi Cam would not fit and cause serious damage.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
You can only install a cam with 0.550 mains in a 224. Check out this video on cams. This is why a non-Hemi cam wont fit. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bILCn5p5mNCUgKs
@oweniwaniec3679
@oweniwaniec3679 2 жыл бұрын
I seen you had a cam on a other bike for 30 dollars. Are there any other possibly cheaper cams that will fit the predator 224?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes as long as it has a .550 mains on the cam like a clone or Hemi,cheaper cams will fit. You might have to clearance them .
@justinoverbey6909
@justinoverbey6909 2 жыл бұрын
What size bolts did you put in the hole for the governor in the oil sending unit
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
7/16×20 or 7/16×14 tap for the oil sensor hole.
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim 2 жыл бұрын
Any plans on E85 or E98 testing? Maybe a "Real" nitrous kit instead of the little cartridge's?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to try all that stuff. We would use Methanol in the 5 horse Briggs back in the day. I would like to jet a carb for that again.
@raycollier6596
@raycollier6596 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the link has been updated for the cam but The ebay description says not to be used in 224cc?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
The cam needs to be clearanced to be used in the 224 as seen in the 224 videos. Check out the 224 playlist. The 224 cam has.550 mains as seen in this video... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bILCn5p5mNCUgKs
@user-wz4vi8xx7n
@user-wz4vi8xx7n 9 ай бұрын
where can i get that cam or what brand and size is it 👍
@sabrom
@sabrom 2 жыл бұрын
That was sick!! wondering what it would be like with the jackshaft on it? quicker time to the 30mph mark and might even hit the same speed?? hummm
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the next video in this series. It's going to be interesting! I will have it out in a week or so
@drugstops
@drugstops 3 ай бұрын
i’ve been looking throughout your channel for the video of removing the 224 external governer but can’t find it can you link it if you made a video out of it please and thanks? Love the videos 🤙🏾
@Black66
@Black66 3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Here is the video removing the internal governor kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3LKo56GfZ1sbpI Here is the external governor removal kzbin.info/www/bejne/oouqf3eNbrqDnMk
@partyyjustin4521
@partyyjustin4521 2 ай бұрын
so it only picked up 1mph with a mod 2 cam?
@Annxt.
@Annxt. Жыл бұрын
where can i get that or a similar flywheel?
@chillindylan9221
@chillindylan9221 10 ай бұрын
Did you have to cleAr anything on the cam I got the same set up and going to install
@Black66
@Black66 10 ай бұрын
Check out the 224 playlist. It shows the entire build kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHeaqXSwZZd8hKM
@brandonthomas8209
@brandonthomas8209 2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased a 224 predator what carb and clutch do you have on that ?any help would be appreciated thanks
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the videos series with the mods so far. They are always changing kzbin.info/www/bejne/panLo6KQn6uVZ6M
@Leveluplivin
@Leveluplivin 10 ай бұрын
11:09 @black66 where do I get that fly wheel torque tool holder from??
@Black66
@Black66 10 ай бұрын
Made it from an old clutch
@andrewkuhtz
@andrewkuhtz 2 жыл бұрын
Black 66, Do you have a link for your flywheel holding tool?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I made the tool out of an old clutch
@michaelhagaman1940
@michaelhagaman1940 Жыл бұрын
I took it all apart and put it all back together and now I can't crank it I can't pull the Rope what did I do wrong
@predator_boiz336
@predator_boiz336 Жыл бұрын
The mod 2 required no clearancing? Or no grinding on the shaft of the cam?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes, check out the 224 playlists. It shows the clearance of the MOD 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZLbdHalpq9jiLc
@mr.stonerUDX714
@mr.stonerUDX714 2 жыл бұрын
surprised with the governor removed the top speed was much difference got to play with the gearing
@darkkemissionz9481
@darkkemissionz9481 2 жыл бұрын
BLACK66🏍💯 just started my 224 I plan on removing governor/sensor, adding header pipe, nibbi carb and mod cam then leaving everything else stock do u think I should be safe?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Throw on a billet flywheel or at least an 8500 RPM rated cast flywheel to be really safe. They are about $39 .
@leonardmitchell4643
@leonardmitchell4643 11 ай бұрын
where did you get the flywheel lock tool from and the name of it?
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
I made it out of an old clutch. You can buy them at places like GoPowerSports or OMB warehouse
@trentmulford9141
@trentmulford9141 2 жыл бұрын
So on the predator 212 the only problem with removing the governor is the stock flywheel has a tendency to shoot the magnets off in the 224 the 224 has the flywheel been upgraded
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I added a Tillotson 212e flywheel to this one. Inexpensive alternative
@Spacecruizer203
@Spacecruizer203 Жыл бұрын
so when u do the exhaust side u cut the vid wat did u do after tightening the intake side of things
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I did a time warp into another segment. Time machine...😃
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
im working on rebuilding a vintage bike I found in a backyard.. and Im struggling to decide what brake to use.. it has a brake band but obviously needs to be replaced and im not sure if I should get a new band or upgrade the brake since I plan on slowly progressing the engine.. its similar to your doodlebug or the original mini bike you featured on your channel. its an old MTD mini bike that has 5 inch wheels.. I love your channel besides what I've mentioned above.. very clean and well thought out builds!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! If you are going to end up going fast I would incorporate some kind of hydraulic disk like on the Doodlebug. If you weren't going to upgrade the engine and were going for an old school vintage build I would keep the old brake . I kept all the old brake stuff on the Azusa bike just to keep it somewhat original. That way if I want to totally bring it back to original I can.
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 the hydraulic disk was the one i was looking to go with but im not so sure if the doodlebug would work... I've toyed with keeping it vintage as well but without the engine being original I don't have much appeal. Although I still have the original engine, just needs a few things.
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 2 жыл бұрын
@@PopeyesCreeper can't post pictures on here but I put a hydraulic disc on a Murray Track 2 without modifying the bike other than drilling 2 holes to mount the caliper bracket I made; kept the stock band brake parts. I used a heavy 3/8-inch thick rotor from BMI parts and a complete eBay disc brake assembly that fits a 250cc dual-sport; entire cost about $55.
@PopeyesCreeper
@PopeyesCreeper 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederickwoods5943 Hell yeah nice, Yeah i was looking around a lot last night and noticed I might not even have to drill any holes in the bike.. the bike is an old 1971 MTD mini Bike, the rear mounts have a bunch of holes drilled out almost looks like it aligns with the doodlebugs.. won't be sure for sure yet. Im still very much considering leaving it stock now and buying a new frame since its so old and unique
@rus1844
@rus1844 Жыл бұрын
Should I buy the 212 or 224? I don’t have a huge bike frame but an 80cc fits perfect in it
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
I would grab the 224.
@shawn6684
@shawn6684 2 жыл бұрын
What did you use exactly to plug oil sensor hole ? I'm putting together a list for my predator 224cc allready have whole thing stripped down lol
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
7/16×20 or 7/16×14 tap for the oil sensor hole. 1/4×20 screw for the governor arm hole and the press in shaft hole
@shawn6684
@shawn6684 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you sir ! I've enjoy your videos and have learned allot bud 💪
@dominicpaez7601
@dominicpaez7601 Жыл бұрын
How long of a chain do need 2. Straight chain my ct200 u with a 50 sprocket in back and 10 in front
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
You will need around 5 foot of chain. I'm running about 5 and a half foot of chain with a 60 rear sprocket on mine.
@leogray146
@leogray146 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they added pushrod guide plates
@EdwinIzaguirre-pb8qt
@EdwinIzaguirre-pb8qt 9 ай бұрын
Did the governor removal exactly like this guy 224cc and took off oil sensors as well and I bought a carburetor with it as well and put everything back together and it won’t start nothing but it sparks with the spark plug but nothing anything I did or tips please help me
@Dabundeez
@Dabundeez Ай бұрын
Oil
@michaelg7862
@michaelg7862 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to do any clearancing for the cam?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Predator 224 playlist. It shows the entire build kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn_ZopePocSbl9k
@johnadams8305
@johnadams8305 2 жыл бұрын
What size bolt or where did u get bolt to fill oil sensor hole?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
You can use a 7/16×20 or 7/16×14 tap for the oil sensor hole. 1/4×20 Allen button head bolt with some loctite in the governor arm hole and the press in shaft hole
@matthewf1979
@matthewf1979 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t the stock 224 rod a bit shorter than the standard Predator 212? I might be mixing up the new 459 rod/piston. I’d actually like to see a 224 block take the hit. I’ve seen a lot of blown off Predator 212 cylinders after they threw a rod. Just snapped right off the block.
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The 224 uses a clone rod Wrist Pin: .709″ Crankshaft Journal: 1.180″ . It has a 58MM stroke. 212 stuff isn't going to work. Check out the playlist for this bike . I added a billet rod to the 224 . kzbin.info/www/bejne/panLo6KQn6uVZ6M
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Yours came with a .709" wrist pin? Mine came with a .716” wrist pin.
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 Жыл бұрын
Would valve cover be the same as a Hemi or Non Hemi cover?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
non
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
When the cam lobes have that much more duration than stock, car guys say they're more "square".
@igokarts4510
@igokarts4510 2 жыл бұрын
My CL2 won't fit in my 224. The journal that fits into the flywheel side of the case half hour s too big to insert
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The 224 needs a .550 main on the cam. Check out my quick video on cam fitment . kzbin.info/www/bejne/bILCn5p5mNCUgKs
@tmscam5115
@tmscam5115 11 ай бұрын
What size bolts did u use for the Governor gear- oil sensor and the top of the motor
@tmscam5115
@tmscam5115 11 ай бұрын
Bolts
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
This video shows the bolt sizes. Check out the playlist for many more engine combos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o2nEgH-jqt-fe5o
@jamest1723
@jamest1723 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know what parts to use on the 224? I have a 212 non hemi Billit flywheel, And I was wondering if I could use that on the predator 224? Thanks!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The 224 engine takes Honda /clone parts. Flywheels for the Honda/Clone engine fit. Yours has a different taper
@jamest1723
@jamest1723 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you!
@birbornot6663
@birbornot6663 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think the plastic cam will hold up without the governor
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I think so, but remember, any of this stuff can break. Could last years or could last a day lol
@jonahdelatorre4044
@jonahdelatorre4044 2 жыл бұрын
Did you have to do any clearance to put the cam in?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Predator 224 playlist. It shows the entire build process. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHeakp9vfpeXpNU
@smartmeis
@smartmeis 2 жыл бұрын
You need to build this thing to the max! Valves, porting polish, flywheel, shave the head, performance piston and rod. Do it all! I need more!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The next video should be interesting. I'm doing some of this.
@mrbriancandoanything709
@mrbriancandoanything709 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised the cam didn’t hit something and ended clearancing! That engine doesn’t like any parts swap(s)!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I did have to clearance the cam in a few videos. Check out the 224 playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/amaopmVve52Jack
@louis-thomastremblay7607
@louis-thomastremblay7607 2 жыл бұрын
Where do i can purchase the tiloson flywheel i am from Canada
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure. I got this one off a Tillotson engine that I put a billet flywheel on. You could just throw a billet flywheel on it. This shop has them www.ebay.com/str/diy4cycleperformanceparts
@jacobhogeland1203
@jacobhogeland1203 2 жыл бұрын
What app do you use to track your times
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
I use digiHUD on the phone along with the camera GPS for top speed and a Dragy performance meter for 0 to 30
@justinmayton4439
@justinmayton4439 2 жыл бұрын
What's the valve lash for the 22 lbs springs
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын
I use .002" intake, and .003" exhaust on my 196's and 224.
@l.a.m7645
@l.a.m7645 Жыл бұрын
You have link for flywheel holding tool and 7 degree key?
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Links are in the description of the videos.
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 2 жыл бұрын
Usually the only way a stock rod can survive 6k+ rpms is to trim a 1/4" off the dipper so it is the same length as a billet rod dipper and wont hit the bottom of the case when the crankshaft flexes
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
He said next is the billet parts. The stock rod will never see 6K RPM.
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 I can bet you it did in this video
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wilson_Racing After a quick check on a speed calc that's a bet I would take. Use 19 inch tire, 10/50 sprockets, and 5200 RPM in a speed calc. You'll get 58 MPH.
@Wilson_Racing
@Wilson_Racing 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 those are never accurate. I tried using them years ago but they never calculate the correct speed
@madness_-yg3lw
@madness_-yg3lw 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 speed cant effect the reliability of parts and yes a stock rod can go over 6000 rpms untrimmed in the 212 at least in the 224 it my be a issue but in a 212 iv accidentally hit 7250 rpms with the stock rod and it held up but being a cast rod some will be stronger then others just because 1 can do it doesnt mean all of them can i now run all billet because i have added peace of mind that my peace of metal is at least a solid piece and has much better grain structure
@minigang8597
@minigang8597 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the flywheel at
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Pulled it off of my Tillotson 212E/ I have more flywheel videos coming
@joshsmoke5618
@joshsmoke5618 2 жыл бұрын
What size chain did you use
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Stock Coleman chain on this bike 420
@modifiedminibikes
@modifiedminibikes 2 жыл бұрын
Hey black can you incorporate in a rpm gauge so we can see how much RPMs your engines and builds turn out I think that will be a great addition to your test Videos
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Im working on that
@frederickwoods5943
@frederickwoods5943 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 and you thought it was just Fred Woods telling you to spend a lowsy 20-spot on a tach 😃 The TUSK tach/hour meter is $18.49 on eBay (vendor here in Virginia) and it ships for free. Ok, enuf raggin' . .
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
@@frederickwoods5943LOL. You guys are funny! I have had a tach/maintenance meter sitting on the shelf for the last couple years. Just never hooked it up. I always use the gear ratio calculator to figure out my RPM. Put in tire height and gear ratio once I know my top speed and I get pretty close. But I hear Ya, it would be cool to see the RPM live .
@modifiedminibikes
@modifiedminibikes 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 join my FB group ( Modified Mini Bikes ) I have a tachometer mount for you . Come share all your wisdom 😄 . When something is to long to explain , I just refer them to you videos 👍
@ryankopera7505
@ryankopera7505 2 жыл бұрын
What pipe is that? Need one for the Coleman ct200u ex!
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Here is the link www.gopowersports.com/header-pipe-coleman-200-mega-moto-212-w-gasket/
@ryankopera7505
@ryankopera7505 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@spikemandan
@spikemandan Жыл бұрын
What lift is that mod 2 cam
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
.2245" .231" Pretty much stock lift with a lot more duration. 245.7 Deg 245.5 Deg
@connerdavis2450
@connerdavis2450 2 жыл бұрын
How did you make your crank holder for torquing
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Drilled some slots or holes in an old clutch.
@connerdavis2450
@connerdavis2450 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 ok thanks
@str8mac842
@str8mac842 2 жыл бұрын
Would a Hot265 cam work for a predator 224 ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! the Hemi or clone version
@moecashsmith
@moecashsmith 11 ай бұрын
How long did the stock rod last
@Black66
@Black66 11 ай бұрын
The stock rod lasted with no problem. Check out the 224 playlists for many more combos with this bike.kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHeaqXSwZZd8hKM
@thomassims2679
@thomassims2679 2 жыл бұрын
hey! will the cl-2 work in this?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Sure as long as it has a .550 main like a clone or Hemi cam. You will probably have to do some clearancing
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
Tillotson 212 "E"? What's the E mean? How's it differ from the regular 212?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
Electric start
@jeffrykopis5468
@jeffrykopis5468 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 Oooo-WHEE! Uptown minibike! 😂
@naturechanel209
@naturechanel209 Жыл бұрын
Can i put the cam in without the stiffer springs ?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Жыл бұрын
Most performance cams have recommended springs to use. The CL series cams are the only cams I know of that you can use stock valve springs with. What cam are you using?
@godsgracefarm4576
@godsgracefarm4576 2 жыл бұрын
What size bolts did you use to plug the holes?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
You can use a 7/16×20 or 7/16×14 for the oil sensor hole. 1/4×20 Allen button head bolt in the governor arm hole
@godsgracefarm4576
@godsgracefarm4576 2 жыл бұрын
@@Black66 thank you very much. God bless
@jjeffrendell2799
@jjeffrendell2799 Жыл бұрын
You should go up a couple sizes on the main jet. Sounds like its bogging to me.
@Black66
@Black66 Жыл бұрын
Yes, check out the 224 playlist. I have tried many different carbs and combos on the 224. Thanks for watching!
@omarthornberry9243
@omarthornberry9243 2 жыл бұрын
Where is that exhaust from?
@Black66
@Black66 2 жыл бұрын
The link is in the description
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