What's the least amount of treasure needed to beat Pikmin 4?

I beat Pikmin 4 doing the bare minimum and discover what the least amount of treasure that need to be collected is to beat the game.

[@quack-orange]

I think its funny. If Ty is a lazy rescue corpse member. Then they must be doing a ton of math to find out how much they do and dont need.

[@pressaTD]

I hired Clefairy to do all the math for me

[@richardkirkland6805]

To be fair, with a ship, you need to know exactly how much fuel (in this case sparklium) you need to get to your destination, and how much your ship can hold. It's quite literally rocket science.

[@drakesdrum1]

They say in America, "If you want a hard job done, put a lazy man on it, and he'll find an easy way to do it."

[@popodumman6816]

"What's your new excuse, Lazy Lucy? What's the little scheme you're dreaming, up today? Tell me what's the use, Lazy Lucy? Working very hard to find an, easy way?"

[@kid14346]

I describe being an engineer as, doing a ton of math and work to be as lazy as possible.

[@Randomorph]

I feel like by saying "Who would want to enter Lastfrost Cavern 1137.27 times? Definitely not me." you might accidentally have summoned the patience elemental known as Lemon from the depths of the Backlogs.

[@SkyEcho751]

It's honestly just a waiting game, not nearly as challenging as some of his normal runs, but also exceedingly flavorless. Avoiding getting board is the real challenge, rather then getting past a frustrating obstacle.

[@Eidenhoek]

Was going to ask why one wouldn't just re-run the caves.

[@nyon7209]

Where's that one person who's completed a low percent run of Pikmin 2 when you need them?

[@CyberKirby]

Not only do the Rescue Corps match their outfits and ship to match the color you choose, but if you change it later, they all change as well. I enjoy treating this as you forcing them to repaint the ship simply because you're bored.

[@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527]

"Come on, guys, we need to repaint the ship. We're wearing green now."

[@CyberKirby]

@@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 "We JUST made it orange yesterday!"

[@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527]

@@CyberKirby "Well I think green is a better colour today, let's get painting."

[@Fixional]

Must be hard to avoid treasure since the whole game is a treasure

[@Obstagoon862]

"10-1000 Sparklium" Sir, you're forgetting about the Disk of Joyous Wisdom, which is worth just _1_ Sparklium.

[@pressaTD]

Oops, I guess it’s just so forgettable lol

[@hardlyanydiggity3953]

"You're a fortune teller, why did you come here?" meanwhile the reason she came there is right on the damn screen

[@platy4700]

1:42 Problem #1: that’s Fandom

[@fanofindiegamesunpopulargames]

Exactly

[@TheTrueBrawler]

Yeah, the Pikipedia is much better at showing accurate information. As a general rule of thumb, if an independent wiki on a subject exists, then avoid the Fandom equivalent like the plague.

[@Rikrobat]

Always amused by how much strategy and planning goes into these "minimal effort" challenges. I'm fascinated by your pathing and thought process! Thank you for another great video.

[@CreativeSushi]

Do not trust the Fandom Pikmin Wikia, you can trust Pikipedia

[@vlad_ap5313]

I really love that you put built in subtitles in the video, but I'd like to request them to be smaller in the future, so you can actually read it via phone and it doesn't update every second rsrs. Regardless, the effort is highly appreciated uwu

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate the feedback! And thank you!

[@mustacheman529]

​@@pressaTD The substitles are also very innacurate, and I assume that's because they are auto-generated. l

[@prw56]

I had forgotten some of the reasons I hate this game so much, but you helped me remember. So much busywork and terrible characters...

[@thisisnotacryforhelp5800]

I'm sorry to be so negative, but I'm not a huge fan of this new editing style :( The video was a bit too zoomed in, and the subtitles were too large. This meant a lot of screen space was cut off or filled in. As someone who's played a lot of this game, it was a little disorienting for me. And the subtitles could have used another once-over. Breaking single numbers into multiple lines is jarring, and there were certain instances of misplaced capital letters. That said, I do like that you're experimenting with your style. You're one of the better challenge runners - especially with Pikmin. I just think this experimentation warrants further iteration before it's _just_ right.

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate the feedback! Rest assured no more subtitle’s going forward lol

[@FLUDDgate-dc2sp]

I thought you could just keep going into the caves and killing enemies over and over again, then realized you have to 100% the cave to do that.

[@elaroarhedgedog8891]

Would still result in a lot less treasures than he got

[@Thing_of_somes]

@@elaroarhedgedog8891but thats boring.

[@elaroarhedgedog8891]

@@Thing_of_somes welcome to why no one does pikmin 2 low percent

[@FLUDDgate-dc2sp]

I made this comment before watching the video, and since I actually watched all the way through by now I KNOW!!!

[@elaroarhedgedog8891]

@@FLUDDgate-dc2sp oh, I replied to your comment before I finished.

[@GelatinCoffee]

Normal people: make fun of how the N64 controllers were designed Me: makes fun of how the wireless GameCube controllers were designed

[@MimickFox]

Funny thing is, had I had a Switch and a copy of Pikmin 4, I'd be one of those insane individuals that would attempt that.

[@Zorgdub]

Entering a cavern 1137.27 times sounds extremely hard. I might be able to do 1138, but that's as close as I can get.

[@mariatomlinson2663]

Technically 1137 is closer! Also it would be possible to beat the game while entering last-frost cavern fewer times. By going through the other caves and collecting all the enemy corpses there once, you can gain more sparklium and reduce how much needs to come from the cavern. Specifically, in the main video, 1,267 sparklium is collected from enemies in caves. (This does count the 11 from last-frost cavern once.) Combined with the 490 sparklium from the 5 collected treasures, this is 1,757 sparklium, bringing the total we need to collect by repeating last-frost cavern down from 12,510 all the way down to 11,243. This means that instead of needing to repeat last-frost cavern 1137 times, we only need to repeat it 1023 times! (Annoyingly 11,243 is one more than a round multiple of 11, so if there's a single sheargrub anywhere that was missed in the original video, we could bring that down to 1022 repeats exactly, or 1023 total times entering last-frost cavern.) This saves 115 trips through last-frost cavern!

[@mariatomlinson2663]

I did a crude test to estimate how long this would take. I hopped into my complete save file and did 10 runs of last-frost cavern. It took me just under 2 real-life minutes per run (19 minutes total - though most of that was the loading, lol) and the main level timer was almost at the first dot. This means you could likely do around 60 runs per in-game day, taking just under 2 hours. This means it would take just over 17 in-game days or 34 real-life hours just running last-frost cavern to gather enough sparklium. If you decided to do this run as a full-time job, for 8 hours a day, it would be 4.25 full days of just last-frost cavern grinding. (I haven't accounted for the amount of time saved by having Oatchi fully upgraded, but I think it only makes a difference to how much damage rushing the blowhog does, so once you have enough pikmin it should be about the same. Plus considering where the timer was, I think another 2 runs would be possible before hitting the first dot on the main area timer, which would mean 72 runs would be possible per in-game day, making the grind around 14.5 in-game days; though this might be cut short at the end of the day by the 10-second countdown.)

[@SvenSierra104]

@@mariatomlinson2663 1137 being closer doesn't technically matter. because you can't ~really~ do .27 of a run, you'd have to do it 1138 times. I'd be willing to wager entering any other levels outside of the first would also be a waste of time, as you'd have to do those runs and then end a day. Though I guess the challenge is about minimal treasure, not minimal days so it shouldn't matter. It'd come down to how many in game minutes are required to unlock each cave, versus how many times you could run Lastfrost Cavern in the same time... I imagine its still probably quicker to run the caves in a day than it is to spam Last Frost Cavern, but couldn't say for sure.

[@weckar]

Funny thing about the safe combo: You only need to see two of the cards, and you can just chuck pikmin at the third dial repeatedly. Which is good because one card is kinda out of the way.

[@furiouscorgi6614]

Actually, you only need one, that's what the speedrun does. You probably don't need any, but it goes from guessing from 8 with 2 cards, to 72 with 1 card, to 720 with no cards.

[@aydenkotnik4296]

Fun fact, the first time I played Pikmin 4, I was fascinated by the safe mechanic. And thought you had to guess it. So I guessed it. It was 614. I do not know what Dandori entity possessed me to grant me such knowledge, but it has not returned since

[@weckar]

@@furiouscorgi6614 let me rephrase: you only need 2 cards without any skill

[@furiouscorgi6614]

@@weckar fair enough

[@SvenSierra104]

@@weckar With "Skill" you need no cards, why 2? Seriously its just luck with 0, 1 or 2 cards, technically. 2 is just where the luck is much more bearable.

[@logangreene685]

thank you for making all the pikmin 4 challenges i have always wanted to see i want to see a video where you beat the game without oachi next

[@xXFestaFiestaXx]

"Unbreakable Promise," left behind, abandoned on a shelf, in a house that has a SAFE!?

[@TriforceWisdom64]

And it's still unbroken, isn't it?

[@Protolisk]

Technically, you also need to collect the Gift of Friendship, though it is not collected manually. Even though it is never carried by Pikmin under your command, you are forced to collect it. But that would increase your total by 1 extra treasure, since you literally have to collect it to finish the game.

[@BlackPanther-pp8gh]

Evening, you realise your uploading this at 10:40pm and of course I'm gonna stay up to watch...

[@pressaTD]

What’s another 18 mins of staying up? Lol

[@GlitchythePumpkin]

Yeah, I stay up for midnight sometimes. On a school night. At age 13. Help me.

[@Pikachu_Gamer123]

​@@GlitchythePumpkinbro I'm in your situation, but older

[@lassekubacki]

Cool video keep up the great work!

[@Metahunt638]

Super underrated, I can’t believe it.

[@DeepHibiscus]

I see new video, I click new video.

[@randomstuffme]

YES

[@GlitchythePumpkin]

Agreed

[@Maskiii_]

how dare you say 69 without the much needed "Nice"

[@darman2204]

Hey. Just saw you hit 30k Subs. Congrats c:

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@phoenixneo1630]

How do you enter an area 0.27 times? You'd enter 1,138 times. It's just that the last time would require only a quarter of the enemies killed.

[@murmirr]

THANK YOU it's such a simple concept and people aren't getting it sadly lol

[@chrisj4288]

Can I just say that I was kind of annoyed at how they structured the series? Like if the whole point of completing a series is it gives you extra sparklium why did they leave so many of them to the last area when you don't need it??? They could have made it more rewarding by letting series be completed throughout the game in roughly equal measure... Makes me anggy.

[@fanofindiegamesunpopulargames]

It's annoying that 20% of content is locked to the LAST CAVE

[@a.s.5956]

Great video!

[@Flyingboots1]

I mean the enemies respawn in caves so 3 treasures is all you need from the tutorial and that's it to beat the whole game......

[@FriendlyArin]

I'm loving the new editing style! Great job!

[@eggroll_5663]

If u run a 5treasure% speedrun, you can still get sparklium from enemies in other caves once and pick up some castaways on the way to buy the dog a speed boost. Idk the math on how much sparklium u would save from collecting all the enemies from the other caves, but I bet that would shave some hours off. Oh and u can probably get white pikmin from caves, hopefully enough to quickly carry all the enemies in the 2 treasure cave.

[@princeofhyrule2205]

Before watching this, this seems like it is going to be an incredibly obnoxious run given that you will need to farm a ton of corpses. Since enemies respawn in caves once the cave reaches 100%, this run could devolve into bug farming. I don’t envy you at all. Edit Post-Watch: glad your sanity remains in tact. Thanks for at least mentioning the respawning corpses though. Also, found this interesting in the video: Press-A: And who would want to do that?!?! Definitely not me! CC: Probably not me. Oh no. . . Good bye future sanity!

[@pressaTD]

I really hope future me doesn’t do this!

[@coolkidikelambchop]

poetic this came out on the 20th anniversary of pikmin 2

[@GamerponGill]

I feel like I would want to see this without the enemy sparklium, but this is still really cool. Some really good pathing and planning to minmax your gains.

[@pressaTD]

Thank you! Yeah maybe I should have done a version without collecting any enemies, but I thought the restriction of not recollecting enemies was fair

[@SvenSierra104]

I imagine not collecting enemies probably only increases the treasure count by 5, 10 max because you may need a couple more early treasures with a lower value

[@Yellowpikmin3018]

I was wondering this, thanks

[@RGC_animation]

Technically, you would need 67 (or 6 if you're a masochist) treasures to beat Pikmin 4, because in the last cave, after you defeat the final boss, the dog color is collected automatically and appears in the treasure log.

[@diananer]

Technically speaking, if you REALLY wanted to (I don’t know why you would but here goes) you could beat the game with only 3 treasures; the three you have to get. You can redo caves and enemies will respawn, unlike the surface. So you can do *A LOT* of grinding to get all the sparkling without getting a single treasure. And no I do not count dandori treasures, they do not count towards the sparklium counter on the ship, it’s their own thing.

[@tricmagic]

Who would have the patient to farm the first real cave in the game 1000+ times. Who knows.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Now we need people to speedrun this now.

[@pressaTD]

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone out there already did this

[@Plushguy762]

This is a really cool video and can you do a Pikmin nuzlock

[@TCGPokemondude]

My favourite channel!!

[@sweetphoenix5386]

I will be pedantic and say the minimum treasures would be 6, if you count the collar the final boss drops

[@randomstuffme]

amazing vid bro!

[@pressaTD]

Thank you!

[@BlueRyse]

If the creatures do give Sparklium, then the correct answer is only the tutorial tresearues (creatures respawn in caves when rivisting them)

[@pressaTD]

More than the tutorial treasures are needed as a cave needs to be fully completed for enemies to respawn

[@gigglenose1990]

theoretically the minimum is 5 treasures. since last-frost cavern has 2 treasures (i think? it might be 3, in which case minimum is 6) which is the lowest in sun-speckled and you can grind it for 13k (which would take no time at all)

[@electroterra]

So you wouldn't necessarily need to enter the Last Frost Cavern the full 1,138 (rounded up) times, because you would still have access to the other caves! While you wouldn't collect any of the treasure in any of the other caves, they do have corpses that you could collect at least once! I don't know what the total extra sparklium would be, or how many trips into the cave it would save, but it's a possibility to ease up on the slog that it would be!

[@hatcher365]

i want to see something for this by doing the least of everything. (finding creatures, collecting treasures and and castaways, and geting least amount of gear)

[@platinum8613]

Please watch the video to the end before commenting

[@friedpinnapple]

And that’s why low% never caught on with speedrunners.

[@BowTheBoo]

I recently 99.99% the game. As i had my purple pikmin collect the golden vaulting table, i realized that i had inadvertently made my character look like them (pink hair, purple suit 😂). It's also my introduction to the series, and I love it ❤

[@cullenwhiteside8165]

You forgot about the Gift Of Friendship, which is the the treasure required to beat the game.

[@mckaywalters2748]

6 would be the least amount. The collar at the end is mandatory

[@champagnesupernova1839]

that's what you get for using the fandom wiki instead of pikipedia

[@inkyno1]

Technically you would have to go to lastfrost cavern a bit less cus you could get the enemy corpses from the other caves still, but you know, not by much

[@pressaTD]

Yes fair point!

[@thoopsy]

I'm sure somebody will do the enemy grind challenge once it's been 5+ years since the last game. You scrape the bottom of the barrel at some point. And some people enjoy things like that.

[@pressaTD]

I wouldn’t be surprised if someone already did this lol

[@alex_-yz9to]

i wonder how they got the numbers of sparklium wrong when the game itself literally has the number inside of it... like it literally flashes it before then showing the name of the stage!

[@Clovxrr]

pikmin gamign fr

[@nitrouscurve2234]

you can't forget there are people who crazy tedious challenges i know that there has been people who did max level starting zone challenges like kh destiny islands max level, persona 5 fist dungeon max level,. kh2 twilight max level and those are just the ones i know. so i can totally see someone doing the 5 treasure challenge at some point

[@pressaTD]

All the best to whoever wants to do this lol

[@murmirr]

8:59 it also changes oatchi's collar color :)

[@Gulliblepikmin]

1:39 Correct, instead you should trust Pikipedia; the only actually competent English Pikmin wiki.

[@SlushieAfton]

Apparently oatchi can have a leaf tail in the blossoming Arcadia, also if oatchi was small on the first day, then how did you get to hectic hollows?

[@TruGamer1127]

I would like to point out the true minimum would be 6 treasures collected, not 5, since you also need the sirehounds collar at the end of the game, even after grinding Last Frost Cavern

[@Scorbunzx]

I’ve managed to beat the game without any upgrades but items were allowed. [so no captain, dog or onion upgrades]

[@thekingofawesomeness9173]

Hey why did that one video get taken down? I saw a video about surviving pikmen and it disappeared before I could watch it

[@pressaTD]

Currently we have the vods unlisted

[@Katzii]

How many times did you say SPARKLIUM in the video? Also, I appreciate the subtitles! I would suggest as feedback from them: 1) Make sure to proofread, but I think people have covered that. 2) They can be uploaded using the CC option so people can turn them on or off as required. I'm assuming if you have a written script this would be easier?

[@pressaTD]

Probably too many times. And appreciate the feedback! I think the consensus is to just not include subtitles lol

[@atsukana1704]

What’s with the sudden big subtitles? It would be nice if they were a bit smaller if you like them

[@pressaTD]

I know I realize now how obnoxious they are, I was just trying something new which I now regret lol

[@PaxtheDreamer]

Okay, I'm not against subtitles, but I think the way you present the subtitles here is a little much? Like, give me a sentence at a time, not a few words. That's fine for shorter videos, but a longer one like this having the subs like that gets outright distracting.

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate the feedback. I was experimenting with subtitles for this but I agree it’s too much and not needed for these kind of videos

[@kcin3356]

PIKMIN4 VIDEO YAY

[@Luis_reim]

2:44 Nice!

[@tealightjay7020]

let’s goooooo Ty video

[@TheCookieMC_]

OMG IT'S A NEW PRESS A VIDEO THE DAY BEFORE MY BDAY

[@pressaTD]

Happy early birthday!

[@Breado-pb3uf]

Erm technically, if you grind four hours of your life collecting any corpses, you technically don’t need to collect any treasures I was I think 🤓🤓

[@littleluce]

I thought your restriction would be just no enemy corpses, to avoid the respawning problem. How much was collected from just corpses? Maybe would have added 2-3 more treasures to your count?

[@CrystalSquid]

Couldn't you just 100% the cave with the least things, then keep entering and exiting to farm enemies?

[@toddcarter4829]

Love the video, subtitles are great, but showing numbers like 1637 as 1 ,637 Seperately is very confusing. Can you show the whole number, please

[@pressaTD]

Appreciate it! And yeah I recognize the subtitles definitely need improvement

[@B0ssguy]

why did you feel the need to add giant captions on the bottom the whole video, if i wanted captions i'd use the captions feature i can hear you just fine

[@theopoldthegamer4284]

Monsters will respawn in the caves if you collect all the treasure, but that might be against the rules Edit: Oh yeah, you said that at the end

[@pressaTD]

I talk about this at the end of the video but yes I put a restriction on myself where I couldn’t recollect enemies

[@Barrymfingbones]

Could you collect all the treasures in a cave at the start of the game and just grind enemys? It would be the most boring grind but wouldnt it be possible?

[@pressaTD]

Lol yes I talk about this at the end of the video. It would be an insane amount so I put a restriction on myself where I couldn’t recollect enemies

[@Barrymfingbones]

@@pressaTD oh nice. Sorry I missed that

[@Commander-peepers]

I don’t know why, but I feel that you’re a bit dead on the inside. Is the pikmin challenges getting to you Or the paper Mario one?

[@kiwiplaysvr6798]

I retract my comment since you mentioned it at the end of the video, hek

[@sosogo4real]

Why is there mandatory captioning?

[@brendanthewolf2992]

Well couldn't you still collect sparklium from the enemies in the other caves? You would still need to do Lastfrom a bunch, but it wouldn't exactly be 1138 times.

[@pressaTD]

Yes fair point!

[@Obstagoon862]

Just now realized you made another mistake: the Dusty Bed is actually worth 150 Sparklium, not 159.

[@KazanaAoi]

low% speedrun complete, Any%/5-Treasure speedrun when? It's only 1.137.27 times. It can't be THAT bad, right? :D

[@pressaTD]

I’ll live stream it when I do so we can all suffer together lol

[@michaelr3077]

you definately should have pointed that restriction at the beginning of the video. Everyone that knows how this game works would be quick to point out and question why you aren't doing it without explicitly stating the rules.

[@SvenSierra104]

Crazy idea, but maybe people should finish watching a video before commenting on how to improve what the person in the video is doing

[@crabbuckets7506]

Hi Ty ✌️

[@egziverpendlebury2431]

Who did the subtitles for this video? It litteraly says the name correctly at the top of the screen at 14:29 and you still got it wrong.

[@cadencenavigator958]

I feel like these style of subtitles are a bit self defeating, because they go away too fast.

[@B.L.U.S]

Why did you crop the video? Like you showed collecting everything you said so why crop? ... Did you use footage of a normal run and just said the strategies to do low%

[@Thedandoory]

No 67

[@TheLinkr]

why did you include hard-coded subtitles?

[@pressaTD]

I was trying something new but didn’t realize how obnoxious they were until after the video was posted. Rest assured they won’t be included in future videos

[@levyguerra2208]

why is your voice different from previous videos

[@sillyman2]

different guy

[@levyguerra2208]

@@sillyman2WHAT

[@Toadzx]

I feel like not enough people are mentioning this.

[@Mr_James_And_Watch]

🅱️ikmin

[@user-gi5zy8jy3z]

There's no point in adding subtitles to the video if you're not going to make sure they're correct.

[@pressaTD]

Fair point. It was my first time doing subtitles and I wasn’t sure if they could even be changed since it’s connected to the audio. But definitely something to improve on for the next one

[@Winter.hooves]

the word sparklium comes up so so much

[@pressaTD]

lol I’m so so sorry

[@gglanouille3060]

Wait if there's Thy, there's an other one ? Are there two of you at press A ?

[@TruGamer1127]

Yes. There's Ty and Dan

[@pressaTD]

There sure is! Sorry we’re trying to make this more known lol

[@weckar]

Real question: why do you put subtitles in the video when youtube has a perfectly good CC feature?

[@pressaTD]

lol it’s a great question. I was experimenting with subtitles but I now know not to include them for longer videos

[@Zorae42]

You could reduce that 1137.27 times significantly by getting the monster corpses once from the other caves. You collect 1256 sparklium from all of the other caves, which is 114.18 when divided by 11. So you would "only" have to do the first cave 1023 times if you went and got the remaining sparklium from the other monsters.

[@pressaTD]

Fair point!

[@octoinlove888]

can you not just 100% the first cave (which makes enemies respawn) and collect their corpses over and over again instead of any more treasures?

[@Clovxrr]

yeah i thought this too LMAO

[@pressaTD]

lol I talk about this at the end of the video, and yes you can, if you’re willing to do it an insane amount of times. So because of that I placed a restriction on myself where I couldn’t recollect corpses

[@Gamerman-lu9bs]

Then the minimum would TECHNICALLY be 5 treasures, 3 at the hub area, and 2 in last frost cavern

[@octoinlove888]

@@Gamerman-lu9bs yeah, that’s what I thought this video would be about but I guess that’d be pretty boring video, that is the actual least amount though

[@octoinlove888]

@@pressaTD my b, classic youtube commenter mistake of not watching till the end, no disrespect to yall, stuff's cool and that restriction makes for a better vid anyway