Primal Genesis Precon: $50 Budget Upgrade | Precon Power-Up

[@TheCatHerder]

I love seeing cards I've never heard of or seen before brought up like this, thank you for the video.

[@NitpickingNerds]

We’re glad to help! What cards were you introduced to?

[@TheCatHerder]

@@NitpickingNerds Oviya Pashiri and Dragon Whisperer were all new to me. Definitely appreciate finding things to go at the lower end of the curve so I don't die before I get to play (and subsequently watch die) my Godsire.

[@nuummite8179]

I've replaced Commander's Insignia with Titanic Ultimatum, which is in my opinion one of the best cards in a token deck, one of my favorite budget finishers in general.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That one definitely falls into the "savage beating" category of cards!

[@SuperRutherr]

Some great additions. Cards I've never seen before or had forgotten about! I'll be checking out the other upgrade videos now. Appreciate the work gentlemen!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thank you! Hope you enjoy the others

[@braylendallas4892]

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[@malakaiissac5819]

@Braylen Dallas instablaster :)

[@braylendallas4892]

@Malakai Issac I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and I'm trying it out now. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

[@braylendallas4892]

@Malakai Issac it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thanks so much you saved my ass !

[@pocmocpocmoc]

Just wanted to say that I love your introductions. I'm always happy to hear what I'm 10% better at or 10% more likely doing!

[@NitpickingNerds]

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[@aaronfrick7217]

More excellent content gentlemen! Thank you as always, I'd give suggestions but you already killed it in the upgraded list!

[@ectoBiologist21]

Would you consider doing continuations of these on a higher budget? Like Commander Quaters' break the bank episodes?

[@NitpickingNerds]

These are the 1st video we have done of this kind but we could look into doing something like that.

[@crovax1375]

I might try out Mirror March in this deck. Just to see if it works out or not. And for Marisi an archaic definition of coil is "a confusion or turmoil." So I suppose Marisi is one that breaks out the confusion or turmoil

[@whiz57]

I tried following this upgrade after purchasing the deck and Im confused. I purchased the cards suggested to replace those cut, but the decklist you provided in the description doesn't match and it cuts a lot more cards than you suggested to get. Essentially I dont have replacements for the cards you don't have in your decklist. Any help?

[@duffman2.096]

Helm of the host would be epic here keep getting 4/4s and populate over and over with multiple commanders out

[@NitpickingNerds]

It's a card you could definitely add to this deck!

[@RatMommy727]

I legit just need to know how to fold this damn storage box it comes with before I lose my mind

[@O.G.Alphaborn]

Hello the link to your cuts adds Hour of Promise. How does that work with no desert in the Deck?

[@NitpickingNerds]

It is more just in as a ramp spell. It can get any lands but if you wanted to add deserts that would make the card even better

[@O.G.Alphaborn]

@@NitpickingNerds Duh! I missed that. I was looking at the whole card not just using the Top part of the card. Thank you for the fast response.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Travis D. Williams no problem have a great day! 🙂

[@ultrakombou]

Gents Arla Palani is God tier. I am afraid you are sleeping on her quite horribly.

[@nicholasencarnacion7776]

I like how you guys suggested cards I have not seen so thank you both. Also I feel dragon broodmother works amazingly with the deck.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That card is insanely good. We wish it wasn’t so expensive!

[@nopewipe8900]

Why not flameshadow conjuring? Makes giant adephage more powerful

[@NitpickingNerds]

We wanted to cut cards like that regardless since they're so expensive. Flameshadow might be an okay card to test but requires a high creature count

[@dino-wer-kuh3498]

i hate syndicate exiles. but i love you. conflicting emotions!

[@sylvarcr]

So I'm new and I feel like the egg girl is the best but I need more cars ideas cause I only know cards from core 19 and up

[@NitpickingNerds]

+Cody Sylvara definitely check out EDHrec.com! You can search for Egg Lady in the search bar and you’ll see the most popular cards put into her decks. It’s an amazing deck building tool

[@GdyniaSharks]

How about a godsire? spamming 8/8's seems nice

[@NitpickingNerds]

It’s a little pricey, but not a bad card

[@brianlee1691]

poopulate! Just built a Ghired.

[@chadcommander-clinic1352]

If you are looking for a different way tho upgrade this deck here os a way to do it for around $100 commanderclinicmtg.com/index.php/2019/08/21/take-ten-primal-genesis/. If you are looking for a more budget option this is a build for around $25 commanderclinicmtg.com/index.php/2019/08/23/take-ten-budget-edition-primal-genesis/

[@thrashermaster4656]

What about primal vigor

[@NitpickingNerds]

It’s a decent card, sadly it’s $25 which is half of our budget.

[@thrashermaster4656]

What about legendary creatures I already am using Kiki-Jiki

[@NitpickingNerds]

Legends are kind of bad in this deck, especially if you're trying to make token copies of them. I would stay away for the most part

[@thrashermaster4656]

Any gods you would recommend

[@thrashermaster4656]

Or planeswalkers

[@NitpickingNerds]

Xenagos the Walker might be decent depending on how wide you go, and iroas the god is good for pushing through damage

[@thrashermaster4656]

Ok thanks

[@thrashermaster4656]

But you mean the reveler right

[@thrashermaster4656]

What about legendary creatures

[@gherrm8552]

Annointed Procession is another good one, but at 15 bucks +/-, I see why it wouldnt make this list. Double Season, Primal Vigor, and Annointed Procession would cost almost 100 dollars, but would make this deck dangerous.

[@NitpickingNerds]

I probably wouldn't play all of those; honestly Doubling Season is basically just worse than the four mana enchantments

[@gherrm8552]

@@NitpickingNerds, ya I could see that, especially cause there arent many cards giving +1/+1 counters. Ima put annointed procession in it, probably not the other 2 though.

[@gherrm8552]

@@NitpickingNerds maybe parallel lives and annointed procession vs. The previously mentioned would be good

[@morzach4256]

Helm of the host?

[@NitpickingNerds]

Helm 100% a card we should have included

[@_arkoner_2274]

@@NitpickingNerds It's also searchable with Captain Sisay and Godo - Bandit Warlord

[@tornadojoe87]

i have a minty Doubling Season sitting here, so most expensive upgrade out of the way ;)

[@NitpickingNerds]

That card is worth more than out budget lol

[@tornadojoe87]

@@NitpickingNerds yeah i got it to go into a Slimefoot deck i started making as my first commander deck. so when i had the money i got doubling season to get the big one out of the way haha.. but since then i got mtgo and finally played edh for the first time and have made more than 20 decks in a few months.. mostly tribal :)

[@NitpickingNerds]

Wow that's a lot of decks! Do you find them tough to manage?

[@tornadojoe87]

@@NitpickingNerds i need to update half of them sometime with a few new cards here and there but its pretty easy otherwise and i usually dont use the same deck twice in a row ;) but all mtgo, so nice and organized haha

[@tornadojoe87]

@@NitpickingNerds and i think i was lowballing with that number lol.. i cant even name all my commanders, but last i checked my collection value was 166tix with yuriko being the most expensive which i got for 8tix when i was feeling spendy to make a ninja deck.. some of my decks are super cheap tho like 1tix ruric , and then a cheap Reaper King deck with every creature and some "changeling lands" in foil

[@nolifeSnorlax]

Guys the music is to loud and to fast :/ It's super distracting.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thanks for the feed back we will work on fixing it in future videos.

[@the_names_rob]

beezy you got some salad fingers

[@NitpickingNerds]

I really do. My legs and arms are also salad fingers

[@EthanW56]

15:05 ... Splice in Twine?

[@NitpickingNerds]

Joe is really bad at reading cards 😬

[@EthanW56]

@@NitpickingNerds it's entertaining to say the least haha. This video got me brainstorming. Thank you for your work

[@NitpickingNerds]

No problem! We love helping people out with upgrades

[@thrashermaster4656]

I’m putting in Kiki jiki

[@NitpickingNerds]

That is an awesome include.

[@danielr9160]

Not understanding cliffside rescuer made me leave the video. You need to learn the game a bit more

[@NitpickingNerds]

Not sure what you mean by this would you mind clarifying?

[@danielr9160]

@@NitpickingNerds sure I'd love to. This decks best ability is coming from things that are not a creature. All toke doublers like doubling season, anointed procession, parallel lives, helm of the host, any double combat doublers, panharmonicon and many others are not a creature. Mother of runes can't save someone blowing up your token generation. The ability to give target permanent protection from target opponent is one of the best options that has ever been printed

[@danielr9160]

@@NitpickingNerds it gives you protection from each opponent no one is blowing up your best permanent this way. You are able to swing a blightsteel into play and instant kill people with it. With the sacrifice if it had the ability of only giving a target creature pro all opponents it would already be an insane auto add in any deck that can run it. But all permanents make it an unquestionably powerful card. You bit understanding that disinterested me from the video. I understand everyone wants to build decks a different way but this is a fundamental lack of understanding the game and power level of a card

[@NitpickingNerds]

We definitely understand what the card does, but this seems like a functionally worse version of Heroic Intervention. Rescuer won't protect you from wraths, mass bounce, or mass exile, and it being in play means it is known information to all players. You can also never use it proactively to attack with blightsteel for example without the danger of opponents just killing it in response, getting a 2 for 1. I think it's okay that we disagree with this one card, but to us personally it doesn't really do much of anything. Sorry it turned you off the video though

[@ghostacoustix9560]

@@NitpickingNerds Heroic intervention also will not protect from mass bounce, but you are correct, board wipes are the main enemy to any token deck. I think what is misunderstood is the definition of 'Protection' from Daniel. While it may be powerful for protecting your permanents, the main thing is all cliffside is, is a deterrent. Noone is going to target your artifact/enchantment until that is off the field. The main thing that i have barely ever been able to get around is an overloaded cyclonic rift against this deck. People also need to keep in mind that they kept the budget under 50 dollars. I will say though that Adephage is good if used right. My strategy has been to ramp quickly, get adephage out and give it unblockable with rogues passage. There is also Soul foundry which is an INCREDIBLE tool to use in this deck. Nice list, but I would not have taken some of the cards out that ya'll did.