Primož Roglič GOES DOWN (Again...)

[@autobus45]

I always knew Chris was being held back on NBC. If I can't watch the TDF on TV this is the next best show. Thanks Chris for the great highlight show!!

[@Zek_Ken]

Between the abandons, crashes & knuckleheads in the sprint, this stage was just dreadful. The only saving grace is that Girmay is a stand up guy who just radiates positivity. I can't stay mad.

[@Sportsloverandrew]

I know his positioning wasnt great but damn the chaos always finds him in the tdf. A fan with a sign. A moto hitting a bail on the road. A guy crashing on the otherside of the road with a concrete divider and goes right into Rogs side of the road. Ut just always finds him.

[@tacodiegoburrito9926]

Agreed. Roglic can be blamed for a lot of his crashes but man, his bad luck in the tour is unreal.

[@yelapa999]

Bad luck might improve a scosh if he rode more towards the front.

[@johnauvil9664]

I look forward to your stage review more than any other channel.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Thanks John. I like to find the details that everyone else misses, throw in some coaching, a little story time here and there, and analyze what went wrong and what went right during the stage. Never hurts to call out a couple knuckleheads along the way, or the brilliant ones. 😜👊🦋

[@MrTbayles2]

@@ChrisHornerCyclingI am upset to see Roglic go down today. Throughout the tour I have rarely seen any of his team mates, what are they doing all day? Also, why is Redbull Bora Hansgrohe not at the front? Is it because they are not as strong and cant stay up there? Or that they dont need to be because they are lower on classification?

[@ShimmyD-u7g]

I truly miss Chris being on the NBC show to give his outstanding analysis of all aspects of cycle racing. I loved when he and Christian were on the show together and would often differ in opinion, both giving excellent takes on how they see things. I used to always look forward to those pre and post race segments. Alas Chris moved on and Christian went motorcycling. I am however very happy however to be able to tune into the Butterfly Effect and get Chris's fantastic post race break downs. Thank you as always Chris.

[@scherzo0o]

@@ChrisHornerCycling My son is into cycling, both MTB and road. I'm a chesterfieldian, and your channel is a brilliant resource for me to understand what he is going through, in his road races.

[@ExplorinDoranRBrown]

I enjoy Chris’ stories! And especially his experience as a rider and the insights that brings! Also his stage summaries are getting funnier and funnier!❤❤❤

[@papajustus]

So sorry for Primos Roglic! That was not his fault. I hope he will recover soon and find back to old strength and win in the upcoming races. Keep my fingers crossed for one of the best contemporary pro riders. I would have loved to see him battling for the podium till the end this year.

[@steverowley1869]

I'm a Brit and have a choice of Eurosport and ITV coverage; both have ex-pros on their commentary teams and both do a decent, if sometimes over hysterical, job. I know they are working in real time and you have the benefit of looking back. Having said that I think your analysis, insight, understanding and delivery are second to none. Chapeau 🎩 and if I'm ever in Oregon there will be a drink waiting for you at the bar, cheers 🍻 Thank you.

[@dmoore4520]

Man Chris, we're getting a superstar here with Biniam Girmay!!!! Love to see it from the young guy!!!! Incredibly talented, powerful, fast, and great in interviews. Has it all.

[@nt78stonewobble]

He's kicking ass. :D And as far as I can see a super likeable guy as well.

[@johnwalsh9285]

Thank you Chris and Garrett for all your time and work on the show

[@mattmuyres7720]

Do you like his hand gyrations ?

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

John 👊🦋🦋👊👊

[@savagepro9060]

Biniam . . . Looking nice in green and will be Green in Nice

[@J-cz7yv]

Bot

[@thart6103]

It’s going to get WILD in the live chat when that happens!

[@RobinDS-m1g]

I see what you did there....nice.....

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. 👊🦋

[@toshmarley72]

The Bini movement in full force. Very talented .

[@keyboard_g]

Wout has to be so frustrated getting cut off day after day.

[@jaysondulay5968]

ya, and even though the ones who are cutting him are being relegated... its still not enough coz theyre impending wout's chance to win the stage, he was so close on this stage

[@Dieterdde]

Yea I think he would have won. Quite amazing given the fall he took the day before.

[@huwleonard9261]

Slut needs to change his taktik and especially his chice of line. Always the fight against the barriers. Not much room there and dangerous for him.

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

that's sprinting. Sometimes things go your way and sometimes they don't. Doubtful that Wout is getting too frustrated, he knows it's part of the game.

[@MrLeovdmeer]

He was just in a bad position

[@yohannesaradom8656]

Dear Chris, This reporting is just simply the best. I wish you are on Television in USA or UK.

[@slayer6936]

1 place in the sprint. I loved seeing Jasper getting smoked again by B.G. the strongest sprinter in the tour this year so far. Prizmo was so unlucky today. But he should have been up front. Great take on today's stage Chris. 🤜🤛👍

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Thanks Slayer 👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@epincion]

Bini is not the strongest sprinter in the peloton but by far and away this year he is the luckiest. As Napoleon Bonaparte once remarked he looked for a general who was not only a competent fighter but also a lucky fighter.

[@S0ulinth3machin3]

@@epincion naw, he's winning the slightly uphill sprints which suit him and still scoring well (although not winning) on the flat run ins which suit other sprinters (Phillipsen). It's not an accident. A sprinter doesn't just go out and race and get lucky and win, he/she has to make it happen.

[@TedDagnese]

The number 2 rule on the butterfly effect: true Chesterfieldians never comment before having watched the entire video. And for GC interest, the mountain stages can’t come soon enough.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Unless you are first to comment. 😂🦋🛋️👊🦋👊

[@gobears6487]

Excellent job on today's arrows, Garrett! 👍🦋👊 Great analysis Chris. Of course 😊

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋⬇️⬆️➡️

[@milliongebrehiwet6949]

We love you Chris from Eritrea

[@Gowalkabout]

Watching professional sprinters move through the peloton, fighting for position for the sprint, is like watching a work of art in motion.

[@dropatrain]

Hoping Roglic pulls a Landis this weekend feel bad for the man!

[@makafuniruni]

Lets hope he doesn't😆

[@epincion]

Thanks Chris for the forensic review of the last 3 km. It is great that the race commissars relegated Arnaud Demare - he left his racing line and pushed WVA into the boards. Up to that point WVA had ridden a great race and was well positioned to have a realistic punt at winning. Bini’s win was almost all due to the fact that WVA had to slow and move to reset his run Don’t rule out a final podium from Roglic as there are many big mountain climbs ahead where times can change by many minutes

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

Yes he was completely boxed in by bollards and rider yet only half a bike behind at the finish . Maybe a stage 13 for him today

[@angelamacchi977]

Roglic! 😢❤

[@wildly_heather]

Wout needs to stop taking the lane right next to the barriers! :)

[@adepanko1289]

It's tough being a Roglic fan

[@TheFlyingDogFish]

No, it's easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@Lapsontheboy]

@@TheFlyingDogFish Vuelta is hes,srcasm mouch-ey

[@ptbot3294]

​@@TheFlyingDogFishoh thats tight!

[@jeiyo660]

I know it's been quite a lot since, but based on Vingegaard's performance; it seems he heard your video about lunge perforation recovery. Great video that was!

[@fatifleur4428]

Thank you chris from morroco

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋

[@iacobogallus2110]

RBH did not do their job...last week they were well on the front of the peloton...so no crash for Primož...but yesterday they were too behind. I am reall upset because of another crash 😢😢😢

[@MikeCappiello]

Excellent coverage again... thanks Chris. I still don't understand why these lead out riders do not have some kind of rear view mirror.

[@charlesmcclellan9970]

Thank you for the great analysis!!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Glad you enjoyed it. 👊🦋

[@hynekjanousek7887]

Bora was not fully chasing. They tried but Roglic lost the wheel immediatelly. They had to slow down to go as fast as he could go. The peloton did not go that crazy fast for a moment and Bora was still loosing time. Roglic was shaken more than it seemed from the pictures.

[@gaspi91]

Roglič was holding nicely, was really sad when I saw he fell. Maybe he can go on vuelta and win there 🤞

[@joebriggs8422]

👍Primož vs Sepp

[@gaspi91]

​@@joebriggs8422that would be epic

[@Lapsontheboy]

@@joebriggs8422 Epic stuff,but Rogla takes it

[@swisstopia]

Rule number one in bicycle racing: Keep the rubber side down. 🦋👊🇨🇭

[@matthewstrauts5427]

Chris, have you ever seen a top tier rider crash as much as Primoz? And moreso, crashes that take him out while contending in a grand tour? Love your show here.

[@01FozzyS]

Amazing Bini. That was a pretty bad crash with that road furniture involved. Horrible route planning !

[@scherzo0o]

Your number one Chesterfieldian here: how come that you didn't comment on Cavendish's relegation? Keep on! The first thing I'm watching after watching the stage is you and Lanterne Rouge...

[@xander0901]

I don’t 100% blame this one on Primoz, but he was once again positioned the furthest back of the big 4 GC contenders. I’m not going to say that he was guaranteed to avoid crashing if he was positioned closer to the front, but it’s certainly safe to say that he could have improved his chances significantly.

[@cartermoth6447]

The front row was taken by GC teams and sprinter teams. Rog didn't have the rouleurs to position him in that lot without causing more friction.

[@xander0901]

@@cartermoth6447Roglic had teammates in the first 3 rows, and video footage shows them looking around for him before the crash. Roglic does this all the time. He believes it is better to race from at least 5-7 rows back so he can see how people attack in front of him.

[@PoAl-i3i]

PR got screwed, that rider who made a huge mistake and curbed it. Blew it , and took out roglich, sucks

[@nakawesiabia6311]

Lutsenko

[@gobears6487]

At last yay!🎉

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Bam 💥🧸🦋🦋👊🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋

[@thart6103]

💥 💥 get on this podium! 🙋🏻‍♀️

[@ZENmud]

Eric Heiden was the World Champion Speed Skater of the 1980s, who quixotically was jinxed in several consecutive Winter Olympics, falling in every event, until his 3rd or fourth Olys. Primoz is to the TdF as Eric was to the Olympics. (sadly)😢

[@jerrycornelius4534]

Arrow work is 🔥as usual Garrett!

[@mikeoc217]

I feel horrible for Primos he's a great cyclist. That Booby Trap left in the middle of the road is inexcusable! How could they not at least stick saw horses with arrows up or something. Totally unnecessary loss of a great cyclist. It was getting epic in the mountains. This one's gotta be a heart breaker for Primos.. Give the race director responsible the boot! 😡🚵🏽‍♀️🇸🇮💯🇨🇵

[@vivekrbs]

Awesome review as always. Very disappointed for Roglic. I was hoping he will have one good day in the mountains to make the race interesting. Not sure if he will even continue. The TDF folks need to do better with these obstacles.

[@ahwinds9256]

The outcome would have been different if Wout Van Aert didn’t get blocked.

[@petertheore668]

great observation . Also if Bini had not competed or if the Ichthyostega had never crawled out of the seas, or had a stadium-sized meteor struck planet earth yesterday things would have gone differently

[@simoncbr900rr]

😂😂😂😂

[@eljeferaider]

Terrible road furniture, communication, warning ⚠️ signs, on the route this year. Poorly organized and dangerous.

[@DDai-qd8uk]

Obstacles. Such a stupid term road furniture.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Those little center curbs are seriously the worst of all of them. You never predict they are coming because they uncommon on most roads and you can’t see them at all. 😱☠️🦋⚰️🦋

[@LABoyko]

It's the perfect term actually.

[@epincion]

It’s always a compromise on the issue of road furniture. To move all of it and then replace all of it is not feasible and risks disrupting public support for the race. In this instance it should have been much better signed and the gaps between the blocks of road furniture seamlessly filled in with temporary barriers so that no rider can ever be in that space.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

I saw someone else calling Roglic a "ground magnet"

[@silentowlscribe]

Roglic just keeps on falling down. Not his own doing, but every time that you fall down, you just anticipate falling down in the next instance like this.

[@baffinsansterre]

A legend is born.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🦋🇪🇷👊

[@loveelroi4453]

@@ChrisHornerCyclingyessss 💚💚💚💚💃💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷

[@ericvonhellens8822]

Top 10 Thanks for talking about how UAE could've riden yesterday. Friday will be a day for the break racing into Pau. Just my 2 cents.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

After the sprint teams are losing riders left and right it just maybe a break away stage. Little bumpy out there for stage 13. It will take some organization if the sprinter teams want to control the peloton all day and some serious attacking to break the sprint trains. 🚂 👊🦋🔥

[@elizabethhunter5182]

Great breakdown of the race. Looking for a little more love for IPT as they have been consistently up in top 10 and even top 5 in many stages

[@jonjust7796]

I was sitting in the Chesterfield being a bit of a knucklehead and thougt to myself: It would be a shame if GC is decided by Covid.

[@patrickwong4824]

Best damn coverage of this, pardon my French, cluster fuck of a sprint. No wonder Démare and Cav get relegated. Wout got screwed out of the win but that sprinting. As for the Roglic crash, Bora Red Bull as a team should be riding closer to the front.

[@LABoyko]

@patrickwong4824. HEY, watch your language.

[@joebriggs8422]

All these years, unbeknownst to me, I've been speaking some French 😉

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I couldn’t believe that Roglic never had his big boys on the front. Today was the day for them to at the front during this final. Crazy. 🤔🦋😱

[@patrickwong4824]

@@LABoykoone little f-word🙄. If you watch other cycling podcast the f-word is constantly used.

[@timliscum2861]

Abrahanson should do the Olympics or Worlds, the kid is a Beast

[@carlbonthuys3550]

World tour teams will be fighting to sign him up

[@ExplorinDoranRBrown]

Kind of sad no one has really been challenging him , but maybe that’s because he’s so good. I loved how he has just been so selfish and was gobbling up all the points, sprint and KOM! lol

[@mulinanr]

What is there to challenge? Almost nobody is after the KOM jersey and the sprint points. Plus while it is somewhat exciting to see him have a go, I am not sure how significant it is in terms of getting contracts? He is going off to breakaways that are doomed to be caught and in the high mountains he is understandably dropped. I don't see him as any better than any other guy in the peloton in terms of capability but he is having fun :)

[@2730kasper]

It's Abrahamsen.

[@swissbiggy]

Have you seen the profiles of the Olympics and Worlds this year ?? With all respect for what Abrahamsen does this Tour, but these parcourses are not made for him... The Olympics will be won by a Alaphilippe, van der Poel kind of guy and the Worlds by a pure climber..... Abrahamsen does grab with both hands the free publicity he can get in stages where nobody else does even want to go in the breakaway, let's not pretend that he's all of the sudden become a world class rider... He spends energy where others (Not even the smallest participating teams) don't want to waste their breath.... I love it tbh.... But we all know that he will gain shit from it... The polka dot jersey will in the end be won by a pure climber, and Abrahamsen will not even be in the top five of that ranking... All the big mountains still have to come, and on a number of them the same amount of points can be won, that Abrahamsen did earn in twelve days. Neither (Although I do hope that he can prove me wrong) is he gonna win a stage..... Thus the only thing he does is grabbing points that nobody cares about anyway. And let me say again that I love it, we need more guys like him !! But bringing a 80 kilo guy (Abrahamsen) to the Olympics for Norway, while they have riders that are better suited for that kind of parcours.... 🤔 And since Norway can take only two guys to the Olympic road race (Waerenskjold and Johannessen probably) there is no room for Abrahamsen.... But we'll see..... Maybe that they will give him a selection for the Worlds, but that title is going to the pure climbers/puncheurs. With this and next season we will have two World Championships that are tailor made for the climbers. Certainly next year when we will have almost 6 thousand meter of elevation at the first World Championship ever in Africa. (This years edition is in Switzerland, environment Zürich where we used to have a great classic in the past. The Zürich Metzgete.. A classic that was always won by climbers or super, super strong puncheurs like Bettini, Di Luca etc etc etc. )

[@johndoiron9615]

I hate to say it because I love Roglic, but I think he should pull out of the tour so he can focus on the Olympics. He's not going to make the podium now, and even stage wins will be very difficult to come by even with good form.

[@nakawesiabia6311]

Olympics ooh please he isn’t even selected and if he stays in tour he has a chance to beat remco and almeida

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

Maybe he should stay in tdf to maintain fitness and confidence but just not challenge for GC . Perhaps just sit back now and maybe challenge for a stage win when he's 10 minutes down on gc or something

[@Lapsontheboy]

@@nakawesiabia6311 Rogla is out of tour+he sad that we will see about olympics meaning he was selected

[@johndoiron9615]

@@nakawesiabia6311He dropped out.

[@johndoiron9615]

@@FoxtrottangoabcHe dropped out.

[@guillermoavendanogarcia3101]

Sad day for every fan, especially for Primoz's fans like me. The race was very much on :(:(:(:(

[@eljeferaider]

Bini vidi Vici that’s 3🙆🏻‍♂️

[@johndidier7849]

Saw You take the San Francisco Gran Prix with Saturn.....You busted them up that day‼️

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

That was a really good day. When we left the team meeting in the morning at our hotel after the all the riders walked out but me. I look at our team manager and he said we got to win. I said, no one can guarantee the win but, I guarantee you that I’m going to put on show today. 😜😂👊🦋

[@maryhallisey1016]

I was there too! I got to ride on back of moto for one circuit up Fillmore scared the crap out of me. Seems like half the field didn't finish. Great day!

[@johndidier7849]

@@maryhallisey1016 Armstrong only took a couple laps then dropped out

[@stephenmagee3766]

I don't think Red Bull- Boro were going all out to bring Rog back. He looked like he was limping in.

[@jernejp7579]

Something was not right there, they just rode him in. 😢

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yep. I agree with you 100%. I meant to go back to the Rogic topic later and adjust what I said but then I forgot to. Certainly Bora wasn’t blowing the team up or they would have been losing riders all the way into the finish. Good eyes and ears. 👂 👀 👊🦋

[@mariusmanoiu2228]

I think he is done he will abandon and focus on Vuelta

[@charlestoddsullivanforpres6628]

Looking for updates to see if Roglic abandons. He is cursed at the TDF.

[@Sportsloverandrew]

At this point I totally agree. People talk about bike handling and all that. But He's got 4 GT's in his bag plus a bunch of 1 weekers. Dude has terrible luck in this race.

[@mariusmanoiu2228]

​@@Sportsloverandrewa bunch?that is a huge understatement The guy is the king of 1 week races only lost when he fell otherwise he even beat Pogi multiple time in races like Dauphinee or Paris Nice

[@krist370]

From all the riders, they allways hit Roglič😢. It looks like his tour de france bad luck just continues😢

[@zerog4261]

Ive started watching Lance' channel as well this tour. More of a boys chewing the fat about the race but quite enjoyable. You get a good few insights from him, George Hincapie and Bradly Wiggens also just now.

[@stroso83]

Bini makes that jersey look gooooood.

[@loveelroi4453]

😅😅💚💚💚💃💃💃💃🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷

[@robertcheng7735]

If either Almeida, Yates or Ayuso attacked yesterday wouldn't that break butterfly effect rule number 1 of never abandoning your leader?

[@erichgerber251]

Right, if Pogi had gone all the way, the review would have looked differently…

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

😜 Every rule as I have said before can be broken. If they know when to break it, and exactly how to break. If they don’t know, then it’s much easier to just not break it and bring Pogi into the finish to grab bonus seconds and win the stage. But remember uAE were already officially breaking the #1 rule when Pogi attacked and his teammates still had more left. So they broke rule #1 anyways, UAE just didn’t break it correctly. 😂🤔🦋👊😂😂😂😂😂😂#1🦋

[@erichgerber251]

@@ChrisHornerCycling How do you know before you make a knucklehead move? They were trying to decide the Tour right there and then. I applaud them for trying.

[@carlbonthuys3550]

​@@erichgerber251medium mountains stage won't be the place to decide the tour

[@sldulin]

Team Visma crash-a-bike is doing an heroic job of keeping good team cohesion in spite of all the 'bad luck'. My pre-race predictions in terms of individual riders was way off but my assessment of the team collective is proving right- Team Visma works well collectively, UAE is slightly dysfunctional with too many chefs in the kitchen or too many chiefs, not enough Indians, whatever metaphor you want to use... Bora is good team for Roglic on paper but too thin, and Soudal is kind of hopeless, but I guess when you have balls the size of RE, who needs a team? At any rate there is enough strength in that UAE squad, and enough strength in TP that they can overcome a dysfunctional team dynamic. This year.

[@selfreliance8999]

Bini is a beast. Probably the best sprinter right now.

[@loveelroi4453]

I agree 🇪🇷🇪🇷💃💃💃💚💚💚💚

[@Kahscho]

I thought there was an unwritten rule about holding the peloton to a pace where riders can catch up after a crash? I remember Movistar being criticized for attacking after Roglic crashed in the Vuelta a few years back. It’s a shame that the peloton didn’t give the riders impacted by the crash the same courtesy today. I always viewed Roglic as a longshot for GC, but it is a shame to see any GC contender lose time this way.

[@oscarw1060]

I don't think it mattered in this instance, Roglic looked really bad and could barely hold his team's wheel. Visma did ride very hard but in their defence if they didn't someone else would and they would just lose their position.

[@wildly_heather]

It’s really only for the yellow jersey that they do that. BUT, it’s different when it is so close to the end and it’s a sprint stage -- the teams are already starting getting ready for their sprints. VLAB was riding for Wout to with the stage at that point.

[@scherzo0o]

not when you're in the last 5km of a sprint finish... when it's mid-stage, like previously, when Pogy crashed, yes!

[@sasopalma4993]

I'm a big Roglic's fan, but unfortunately everything was ok. They actually didn't push as much for first few kilometers and Roglic stayed at around 1:15 for a while. If Roglic was fine, he'd get close or in the peloton during this time, but it was seen he slowed down his team cause he couldn't keep the pace up. At around 7km to go the race just blew up and it is all good. There is no way for peloton to completely wait for 4th in the GC, I think even yellow jersey wouldn't be wait for in the same position.

[@RobinDS-m1g]

Is it that he's subconsciously repeatedly acting out his PTSD from the downhill ski crash, or is it because he didn't get chance to learn race-craft when it's easiest to learn i.e. when we was young still and still growing up.... two possibilities or a bit of both. such a great athlete, an unfortunate achilles heel (and painful!). Hope he makes it to Nice. Hopefully in top 10.

[@taxi9554]

I think the first….learning it when young

[@charliedillon1400]

Anyone else think Roglic may have some level of CTE from so many crashes, not to mention his skiing career before cycling? He seems punch drunk sometimes. They used to say his late start to the sport gave him bike handling challlenges, but it's been years now. If it was football, they'd be doing serious protocols by now, I think.

[@LABoyko]

@charliedillon1400. You guys are killing Primoz. The crash yesterday occurred on a wet, narrow road with sharp turns; the crash today occurred when another rider crashed in front of him. He's going to be alright and a podium finish, while unlikely, is still possible.

[@charliedillon1400]

@@LABoyko He didn't start today. Hope he's okay.

[@EMC2Scotia]

On the question of form rising, stabilizing or dropping, and how UAE could've played it on stage 11, on The Move episode with Wiggins they said something similar, in short: "Pogacar is riding like it is him that is 1:15 behind". Precisely. Power matters, but it can also lead you to ride less intelligently.

[@sicknorenson]

How does Cav get so low when he sprints? It’s insane, his chin is almost on the bars!

[@joehopfield]

How'd you leave out Cav's triple deserved relegation? Teunissen & Girmay had to dodge his unclipped(!) Bahrain victim (had to unclip!), then C tried to take out Binny, then went for Coquard. Relegation isn't enough.

[@atoms-to-atoms]

Poor Roga ...

[@MusicChannel-d8g]

Who is here after roglic has left the tour

[@mylittlepitbull3143]

I lined up for a criterium in super week one year. It was like a 60 mile criterium. Anyway at the starting line I was talking to this one guy and it was pretty friendly and the race went on. In the middle of the race I saw him go down hard. Felt kind of bad, but it happens. Super week was the month of racing with two races a day and you could race all over Wisconsin. So I saw this guy the next day, at the start line, and he was all cut up and we were talking and I was saying wow dude you went down that's too bad because he had his bandages. Well, he crashes again. The third day he rolls up to me at the start line he's like hey what's going on and I just moved to the other side of the peloton because I didn't want to be next to him. Sure enough he crashed again and again. Four times he had crashes. I didn't crash much in my bike racing career because I was very good at not crashing. But some guys just can't stay off the ground. I watch primos lead the peloton around a corner and he just rode right off the course into that dirt patch where he went down couple days ago. Damn buddy keep it the rubber side down.

[@joebriggs8422]

"moved to the other side of the peloton" 👍smart move

[@draconianTL]

Haha, I have a similar story about a guy who comes to our training rides. He’s the only guy I know to crash while on a hill climb and if I ever find myself on his wheel, I’ll move out. Stay well away! Can’t tell if it’s his bike/tire setup, handling, or spatial awareness because he’s been cycling for years and is very fast rider just a complete liability.

[@LABoyko]

@draconianTL. Pretty sure Lance crashed on a climb in the TDF.

[@mylittlepitbull3143]

@@LABoyko yeah everybody does crash at some point or another. And you just made me remember my friend Jeff Wyatt. He was a crashing machine. He was going to quit bike racing and then he won the state criterium championship in Utah. A lot of category 1's in that state.

[@mylittlepitbull3143]

@@joebriggs8422 Thanks for reading my story. I know it was long. I remember it like yesterday and it was about 35 years ago.

[@BienvenidoEspinal]

Finally looked up what a Chesterfield looks like, gonna have to upgrade 😂😂

[@CapeCodPhilip]

Cavendish 5th! Nope. He got relegated for his crazy moves in the final straight.

[@LABoyko]

Does the bike throw at the finish line actually get the wheel across quicker? When the pedaling stops, even for an instant, deceleration commences. Seems pedaling through the finish line provides the best chance to win.

[@joebriggs8422]

Yes, with the right timing (that's critical) it gets the wheel across quicker.

[@rulifaller8474]

I agree it could help Pogi if UAE would be a bit more savvy in their tactics. But I doubt that either the car or Pogi are able to think of anything other than the big balls tactics. Also, by now it is quite clear that Yates, Almeida and Ayuso are not a real threat to Jonas, they will loose minutes every time Jonas and Pogi go seriously on a climb. So they will only finish ahead of Jonas if he collapses. Visma are smart enough to understand that they do not have to panic when any of these guys attacks.

[@dawitsolomon5477]

The Eritrean fired tge last 25 m with full Keton Energy not full gas..

[@simoncbr900rr]

Hi Chris, This is the first time i have heard someone say Jonas has come into Tour fully rested (yes he had a crash but that also means he had lots of rest) Nobody is saying Pogi may be getting tired because he did the Giro. As far as i'm concerned winning the Giro/Tour is harder than coming back from his crash.

[@UserFromTheUk-14]

Chirs ❤ 🚴

[@cotejnfrs]

I cannot wait for Today's stage 13th review. The knuckleheads are gonna fly everywhere if I've been a good student. over th epast few years :-)

[@michaelbergfeld8751]

Roglič didn't fall, he was standing in between usual inactivity.

[@nzmarty]

I see Cav also relegated for that crazy sweep move.

[@tonyvanderstraaten1040]

I was expecting Cavendish to win but it didn't happen. Thanks Chris. Have a great day.

[@eljeferaider]

WVA and primoz just so unlucky so far this tour. They look good but crashes and pushed into fences.

[@jmhilgers]

Hopefully, Laporte can give Van Aert a solid lead out tomorrow.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🦋🤞

[@Maestrodeluniverso]

Chris, you should comment about Pocagar killing any option from Yates, Audi and Almeida to threaten the yellow jersey. The UAE loss any change to send those guys in front to force Visma to chase them while Pocagar is pulled by Visma.

[@CowneloAlvaroid]

Poor Rog stays on deck😤

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🥲🦋

[@FrankDeleo-ve5uy]

Chris, given the drab pre-stage show on Peacock, were you invited to be part of the show or not? When you were part of the show in the past, it was far more informative and entertaining! Hell, your commentary as part of the live stage commentary would make a dramatic improvement. Keep up the good work with your KZbin Videos. Top notch content!

[@torontocycling]

Hey Chris. Great video but I was hoping for more analysis over commentary, especially with Primoz crashing and the GC battle reshaped. Maybe an added feature to the future videos? Thanks

[@concernedcitizen939]

The next tour-watching game - take a drink every time Roglic crashes.

[@bebacklater526]

I loved watching you in the Tour De France

[@captainclavicle]

I'll be keen to see some other footage or stills, but based on a brief highlight video i watched earlier and now Chris' analysis, my take is that Demare was hard done by in being relegated. To me, at the point he and Wout were both launching, it looks like the barrier is out slightly further into the road than the preceding barriers. I'm not sure that Demare really came across as far as it might seem.

[@wildly_heather]

I thought it was blatantly obvious from the overhead shots. He did exactly what Jasper did when Jasper got relegated; Wout had plenty of room, and then he didn’t and had to stop pedaling as Demare cut him off.

[@davefoc]

The third significant crash over the last few days after the width of the peloton is narrowed by road furniture. Is this OK? Are the race officials unwilling to do something about this?

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

All the crashes take their toll on the riders and spoil the tdf by week three . It's been criminal in recent years how race officials don't make the riding safer

[@wazzup105]

Was this the third or fourth time already that Wout is getting boxed in and cut off at the boarding?

[@dickieblench5001]

I'm beginning to think Rogla is addicted to liniment oil

[@satyrcreekergang4985]

The Danish riders need some Luck from now on. 50% of the Danish riders are gone. 25% of them today. 😢 Casper P. Mads P. Mørkøv, Søren K.A. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Stay safe 🤘🇺🇲🇩🇰🤘

[@LABoyko]

@satycreekergang4985. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark." -- Bill Shakespeare.

[@joebriggs8422]

Really a bummer to see Primož crash again. It seems like seeing him riding bloodied with torn up kit is as common as not. Primož reacting late, IMHO, it goes to Chris’ comment in an earlier video about the need for situational awareness, looking past the rider immediately in front.

[@jameswitte5676]

JONAS ABRAHAMSEN is everywhere during this TdF. He gets my vote for most combative for the Tour.

[@ad9898]

Roglic, sometimes has poor positioning, add this to his cycling experience riding in a professional bunch(6 years), I think are hi main reasons for crashing.

[@margaritastoyanova9253]

If someone in the peloton crash right in front of you on high speed - you crash 100% Nothing to do with skills.

[@sgroadie6367]

Great analysis as always Chris. Do you think Roglic is just unlucky, or is it his riding that is causing him all this crashing?

[@brentrasmussen2440]

I agree the UAE tactics on the mountain stage were not the best. Tadej still could have salvaged things, once Jonas caught him Tadej should not have taken a pull until it was time to sprint for the stage. Time bonus, stage win, and mental victory all could have been his.

[@Mybrother53]

I have never seen a pro rider crash this often in my recollection...at some point you'd think he'd learn to position and handle his bike better if simply for self preservation!!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I was super impressed yesterday during the descent on stage 11 how quickly Roglic goes down hill after so many hard crashes. 🤔🦋⛰️