Prince Charles: “Diana Is a Triumph" | The Crown (Josh O'Connor, Emma Corrin)

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@satyendrandonibanerjee8682 Жыл бұрын

The way he just patted her on the shoulder. If that's not friend zoned, I don't know what is. 😂

@destinywhite2063 11 ай бұрын

I don’t believe that. He was giving her an encouraging pat on the shoulder. Even at Balmoral, the paps were watching them. Charles is a blood royal, and the rules with them are NO PDA’s, period, end of discussion. So, no, they will not be romantic in front of their chauffeurs or anyone else they don’t know. It’s just not done. They don’t live by the same rules other people might. You may like PDA’s, but I don’t. For me, personally, holding hands is ok, the man wrapping his arms around my waist from behind is ok, romantic kissing, not ok. I save that for behind closed doors. My romantic feelings for the man I’m with should never be a public spectacle. My romantic relationship isn’t for the whole world to scrutinize. Not everyone is the same as I am. But I shouldn’t have to hide how I feel about it either. I didn’t see anything wrong with Charles patting Diana on the shoulder. Charles is socially awkward anyway and always has been. Diana basically told him she’s tougher than she looks. But, for the royal Family, she wasn’t the right kind of tough. That’s what the problem ended up being.🤷🏻‍♀️She married into a family that were albeit emotionless, cause they had to be. And that caused them problems in the end. That also caused Phillip problems with Elizabeth in the first years of their marriage. Phillip wasn’t emotionless and Elizabeth was, out of necessity. And that really upset Phillip. Elizabeth wanted Phillip, any which way she could get him. She wanted to gloss over what his needs were and just expected him to take it and accept it. They had lots of problems the first years they were married. No one felt they had to listen to him. Cause he wasn’t an HRH. Elizabeth married a prince from a royal family which was albeit extinct and the British Royals knew that and used that against him every chance they got. Elizabeth was oblivious to all of that. She was also, as a young queen, oblivious to her own mother verbally seducing QEII’s cabinet members to go against their new Queen and just do what the queen mother said to do. That family was messed up.

@bananamanchester4156 6 ай бұрын

A great sport. Such romance 😂😂😂

@jamiedianne6778 11 ай бұрын

A shoulder Pat and “you’ve been a great sport”isn’t very romantic 😅

@KathleenMcNe 5 ай бұрын

I suspect that's as good as it gets with Chuck.

@Gooeybrowniebaby 11 ай бұрын

I think this scene makes out to be that Charles was forced to marry Diana by the Royal family. From royal sources, that wasn’t exactly the case. They looked favourably on the prospect of their union, but no one forced him per se. The Duke of Edinburgh only said either propose or let her go. But as the Prince of Wales, there must have been a considerable mounting pressure for him to marry and produce an heir, and let’s not forget the Royal Family tend to marry incredibly young, so Charles was already a bit late according to their standard. And he had been rejected by 2 or 3 women, if I remember correctly. I guess he was equally lost and started to feel the stress, so he just grabbed whatever he could get his hands on. Tbh, I don’t think the King was really that certain of himself even in his early 30s. And I also think the King hadn’t always been head over heels with Camilla, but the desperation derived from his highly incompatible marriage drove him into her arms, who was herself not entirely happy in her marriage. He should have let Diana go in the first place, before the commitment. She wasn’t exactly that easy of a person to deal with domestically, understandable considering her traumatic childhood. She needed someone quite special to accommodate those needs, and Charles wasn’t that person. Bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, don’t marry because you feel the social pressure to do so, if you don’t feel absolutely certain he/she is the one. Not only would you trap yourself in perpetual unhappiness, but only trapping the other party.

@RoseRedd-k4b 9 ай бұрын

well said.

@MsJubjubbird 8 ай бұрын

He could have had his pick of almost any woman. But she was picked as she was a virgin and the pressure was heavy. More than social pressure. Utter coercion. Camilla wanted to marry him but he was pulled away from her and she was married to Andrew. That never disintegrated. She just had to wait until she'd given Andrew his children so their inheritance would not be doubted. Then they returned.

@RoseRedd-k4b 8 ай бұрын

rejected by 3 women ouch!

@krishnavyas313 6 ай бұрын

@@RoseRedd-k4b 2 women rejected him because he was giving more attention to camila than them. Before Diana Charles proposed to Anna Wallace and she was very happy and royals even invited to Queen mum's 80th birthday but at that birthday party. Charles gave more attention to camila at birthday party didn't give any attention to Anna Wallace, she was furious and left party early. After few weeks of that charles and Diana met at party. Anna Wallace and Diana looks so much alike.

@RoseRedd-k4b 6 ай бұрын

@@krishnavyas313 Boy Charles is a jerk.

@MsCorpora 8 ай бұрын

The entire phone call is so well written, and the ominous music accompanies it so well. I can't get enough of it. "She's a triumph. In the history of Balmoral no one has ever passed a test with such flying colours. Rave reviews from the whole ghastly polit buro. Anne, Papa, Margo, Mummy, Gran. Then I was summoned for a conversation with Papa in the hanging room, where, oblivious to the grotesque symbolism, it might as well have been me strung up and skinned. He made the family position painfully clear. They want me to marry her."

@benschaeffer8102 11 ай бұрын

Josh did the BEST job out of all the Charles' in my opinion.

@firenze5555 7 ай бұрын

Josh O'Connor is too cute and charming to be the real Prince (now King) Charles.

@glen7318 4 ай бұрын

he is not the king. He is an average actor, playng Charles

@BillyButcher90 2 ай бұрын

@@glen7318He's also a Republican.

@bananamanchester4156 6 ай бұрын

The music adds a lot to this scene- it almost sounds like it's moaning in despair.

@sheilamclachlan3090 6 ай бұрын

it's very like the music in 'The Handmaid's tale'. Obvious parallels with that story too!

@sebastianvargas7614 6 ай бұрын

It’s the same song that plays in Season 3 when Charles looks back at his family during Edward VIII’s funeral and they’re all standing there staring at him in black. A great soundtrack connecting two scenes in which Charles feels isolated from his family and suffocated by them.

@Thepateisgreat 11 ай бұрын

It was Diana “strung up and skinned” not his selfish arse.

@jewelsnjoy 11 ай бұрын

Charles, strung up was Diana. Not you.

@RoseRedd-k4b 9 ай бұрын

Emma Corrin looks so much like Princess Diana it is uncanny. I love her cute pink sweater she is wearing. Charles seems disappointed that Princess Diana is a triumph. It is like she doesn't want his family to like her. He destroyed poor Di's life, I mean she was so young, if he loved Camilla he should have married her all those years ago instead. I think Prince Charles is a huge Narcissist.

@faithlesshound5621 4 ай бұрын

Core members of the Royal Family are NOT free to marry whomever they chose. They need the monarch's permission. They have always been able to take lovers or mistresses, but nowadays that is policed by the tabloid press. Princess Margaret was subjected to that when she wanted to marry a divorced war hero.

@ladymary22 11 ай бұрын

Charles is such a self centered child.

@bubbagump6934 4 ай бұрын

Run Diana Run!

@maryk446 9 ай бұрын

Is anyone going to point out how Charles referred to his own nuclear family as "the whole ghastly Politburo?"

@MsJubjubbird 7 ай бұрын

people do that. I love my family but I call them the Spanish Inquisition when it comes to certain subjects because they like to stick their nose in where it is not wanted

@olyacarell6434 4 ай бұрын

@@MsJubjubbird why do you love someone like that?

@MsJubjubbird 4 ай бұрын

@@olyacarell6434 because they are not like that all the time. They have many good qualities too.

@josealonso80 8 ай бұрын

The peruvian alpaca sweater :-)

@mayaurbano-aly2768 5 күн бұрын

I know, I'm Peruvian and the sweater caught my eye

@outinsider Жыл бұрын

"She's a child." Charles wasn't exactly an adult. If he was, he wouldn't have preyed on her insecurities just because he couldn't get his way and marry someone who didn't love him as much as he loved her. Charles always gets what he wants, no matter what cost it does to the people who love him. Queen Elizabeth knew this, Diana knew this, I don't know if Camilla knows this.

@patroberts5449 Жыл бұрын

He was old enough to know better

@outinsider Жыл бұрын

@@patroberts5449 True, but not old enough to DO better. In fact, he still isn't doing better. Ask Harry.

@xthefordx Жыл бұрын

@@outinsider charles aint a saint but Harry aint an angel as well

@outinsider Жыл бұрын

@@xthefordx Diana wasn't either, but there is a difference between treating someone like a human being when they experience something human, and treating someone like crap just because they weren't your selected choice and because top down hatred of someone for something about themselves they cannot change.

@kleeamd8274 Жыл бұрын

@@outinsider Charles actually did try with Diana. It's just that Diana sycophants like you deny reality & try to make Diana some naíve, helpless, innocent martyr, when in truth Diana was the cause of her own miseries She pretended to share the same interests as Charles, to convince him she was the right one. Only immediately after they married, Diana quickly dropped the act & made it known that she did not enjoy his interests and would complain & throw fits when he would want to indulge in his interests. Furthermore, Diana knew very well that Charles still had feelings for Camilla. She witnessed a good deal of evidence before she ever married Charles & still she chose to go on with the wedding. Why? Because the idea of one day becoming queen herself & the mother to the future heir was too good to pass up As far as their marital problems, Diana was actually the first one to cheat - NOT Charles. Diana also had no qualms about breaking up the marriages of her many married lovers. She also dragged her kids into her marital woes, something that anyone with basic common sense knows you are not supposed to do to young children. Yet she often forced the children to pick sides & burdened young William with all her troubles, constantly confiding in the boy things he should have never had to hear. William was even traumatized by that interview she did with Martin Bashir. He was very upset by that. But Diana, as always, was selfish. Also, if Diana had been more emotionally mature & less impulsive & reactionary, then maybe she would have figured out that Martin Bashir was a phoney. But she did not have the emotional maturity to do so - instead, when she was shown Bashir's "evidence", she just outright believed him & made no efforts to investigate further on it's credibility. Even her own brother warned her. But she was foolhardy Lastly, Diana caused her own death by playing cat & mouse games with the paparazzi. Calling them & staging photos when she wanted to send a message to someone. But then complained when she didn't approve of their coverage of her. Can't have it both ways. Ultimately, her manipulative games earned her a premature demise & lifelong trauma to her 2 boys But Charles is the villian, right?? Sure Jan ;)🤣

@Ottole 2 ай бұрын

He played Charles much better than Charles himself

@afsilvat 3 ай бұрын

Being kinda fair to Charles here, crown princes from all monarchies of the world have a wide history of not being able to choose who to marry, but rather being set up in loveless marriages with the sole purpose of generating issue. His family always got into his love life, and also showed no interest in his opinions or what he had to say, ever. Diana also knew where she was getting into, and I’m pretty sure her aristocratic family also pressured her to be liked by the Royal Family and marry the Prince of Wales. Sarah couldn’t do it, Diana was the one. However, as this series portrays, maybe they both thought that getting married would make things get better, as it had happened with all their ancestors, but it didn’t. The whole thing is twisted, and this scene, the writing, the music and Josh’s outstanding performance portrays it really well. The Crown will go down in history as one of the best pieces of television ever made.

@MsJubjubbird 3 ай бұрын

I thin Sarah was old enough to realise the pitfalls of royal life. Diana was 19 and very naive. This was the first generation where the press were ubiquitous. Much moreso than with the previous generation. Also where women had more equality. The timeless arrangement of the mistress and the wife wasn't going to work

@Sarah_270 8 күн бұрын

It resulted in a Woman's death.

@iamjustsaying4787 27 күн бұрын

I would have left when he gave me the pat on the shoulder.

@Coryraisa 3 ай бұрын

All of a sudden, Charles became "interesting" to the _married_ Camilla once Charles started dating Diana.

@shaneedaniel5125 Ай бұрын

Wow, the most telling scene out of all of them of Charles distaste for his family and Diana. He never loved her and always whinged and wined to Camilla such pathetic aggressiveness.

@alexanderfischervonmollard2472 6 ай бұрын

Does she say "Fuck you" at 0:42 ? Would be an appropriate comeback to his "good sport" remark.

@MaryTheresa1986 6 ай бұрын

She said "thank you", but fuck you would've been better! 😂😂😂😂

@pickmixgamer 6 ай бұрын

The thing is Charles may not be a bad person but this is where he needed to make his emotions know & stuck to them yes it may have been bad at first but it would have show strength it seems he can not do anything unless he gets validation but at the end of the day if he loved Camilla the way he insisted he would have been able top do it worst case he may have been cut off, fine get a normal job so to speak he had the education to my knowledge but no he wanted to stay home he may not be a bad person like I said but the way they went about it was pathetic & time wasting (IMO)

@MsJubjubbird 3 ай бұрын

She was already married by then so there wasn't any prospect of being with her. He was 33 with no heir. They'd already had an unmarried king with no heir and that worked out badly. Not just about being cut off. He loves his family and that would put them in an extremely precarious position if he left. Plus he wouldn't get to see them. It would also be going against the duty that had been engrained in him since birth. Plus, he had no other skills and would be a sitting suck for fortune hunters. There wasn't really an alternative other than the other daughters of the gentry being put before him. Plus, if he had relinquished the succession then we would have King Andrew. Yuk

@bricktam 8 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie, my heart broke for Camilla. She loved Charles, knew that she wasn't good enough to join the family, even more so now that she was unhappily married with kids. Charles was the main person she wanted and eventually he could slip away to a new power couple and she'd be an outsider. This is where I admire Charles' love for her.

@BellaRainDrops 4 ай бұрын

A pretty young thing will only distract for so long.

@martinkrukenberg4590 Жыл бұрын

a forced marriage

@brendenreecegaming284 Жыл бұрын

Yea I think it was a forced marriage too set up by the queen and Phillip Im no charles or Camilla fan but if only they were allowed to marry before he met diana then I dont think none of the criticism of him and Camilla would be happening and diana might still be alive today

@izzad777 Жыл бұрын

Lmao no. Charles is not forced. And Diana is not forced. She was tricked, by Charles. Charles is the future king. He can always say no. What he cant say yes to is Camilla, so she used Diana. And as proven, he is successful.

@harringt100 Жыл бұрын

@@brendenreecegaming284 But it seems like she didn't actually _want_ to marry him then.(?) Which removing family pressure on Charles probably wouldn't have solved.

@brendenreecegaming284 Жыл бұрын

@@harringt100 camilla didn’t love charles at first true but charles was indeed in love with her and always has been in a quite obsessive way too I think the more camilla spoke to Charles and hung out with him, she started to fall in love with him so they both had affairs behind their partners back Diana knew what was going on she even confronted Camilla and told her to her face that she knows about her and Charles