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[@elNatoo]

That KZbin intro is cleaner than a Linoone solo sweep on Emerald

[@stellarknight04]

Buttery smooth my man

[@seanbrady2232]

I love how in a world full of “PRO X RATES THEIR FAVORITE Y” you chose the title you did lol. This is despite the fact that you are by far one of the best nuzlockers and Pokémon youtubers.

[@atvfellonmewheniwas7454]

It’s definitely flygon and jaiden at the top with a big gap from third best nuzlocke youtuber.

[@othamneil8958]

@@atvfellonmewheniwas7454 jaiden is too overrated. She's actually a really good pokemon nuzlocker, but she's entered the nuzlocking scene too recently, and she hasn't mastered nuzlocking quite as much as others do. I'd say Jan from Pokemon Challenges is better than even Flygon HG by a long shot.

[@nellewoodruff6337]

@@othamneil8958 *Cue Jan forgetting the cold storage has ice types* Jk. I agree with you

[@atvfellonmewheniwas7454]

@@othamneil8958 I’m speaking strictly from entertainment value my bad. That’s the primary purpose of being a nuzlocke youtuber imo.

[@arantzap]

@@othamneil8958 i think they're saying jaiden is really good as a *youtuber* bc of the format of her videos

[@andrewwagner7363]

You should do a colab with Pokemon Challenges where you challenge him to a hard monotype nuzlocke and he challenges you to a ROM hack.

[@aidangilhooly6689]

diamond fire type only?

[@alexkavo8930]

I like this idea. A lot.

[@asmonull]

Ultra Sun fighting types only - not only a hard challenge in general, but gets two huge roadblocks very late into the game, making restarts even more of a pain.

[@bryanb2632]

PChal has talked about doing a soul link, that would be super cool with these two. But I know Jan has talked about how finding crossing schedules to do so is a challenge, and I know that Flygon has an especially tough schedule to fit into (plus the whole Europe/America time difference thing)

[@Joel-xr8xc]

Liking this so he sees this

[@joshuasims5421]

Too true about the diamond pearl encounter tables…I played the remakes having missed the originals. I made a point of catching everything on each route but after a while there was nothing new to catch. The great marsh and trophy garden are the worst. If only they’d used platinum as the base…

[@alexanderl7059]

same, I tried playing the remakes with nuzlocke rules, but there are so many routes where I couldn't get any new encounters. There's a reason why every DP playthrough feels the same

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@alexanderl7059 Honestly, the Johto games biggest problems is the fact its only Gen 1 mons, gets really repetitive and boring to see gen 1 everywhere (then again, its basically dlc to Kanto). Heck, Id argue Lets Go Johto removes Kanto, I dont care if I get hate but Kanto is why Johto is so terrible in the 1st

[@beybl7869]

@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 the problem with yeeting Kanto mons from Johto... There.. are t that many new Johto mons. It needs a healthier mix (they fact you can't get houndoom until unlocking Kanto is soooo dumb, and you can't get sneasel or ttar until mount silver. Holy yikes)

[@darkninjafirefox]

I think the multiple hats make you look distinguished I wish X and Y were more difficult, I loved playing through them because they made Beedrill more viable and she was a star on my team

[@quendi5557]

Yeah, I was nuzlocking X with a friend and got a Kakuna and they are still on my team.

[@hi28]

if you really like many pokemon that are usually bad, XY is probably your favourite pokémon game (you can even not fully evolve your starter and not have to use that ugly fox !)

[@dominickucela6144]

X and Y are amazing for Nuzlockes too because you'll rarely ever get similar teams.

[@sawkchalk6966]

9:53 just need to shout this out. If y'all have a hacked 3DS or don't mind emulating, the ROM Hacks Eternal X and Wilting Y are amazing. It's the same map and story with the difficulty maxed out. Every important trainer has a full team of 6 with better AI and expanded movepools. The game has also rebalanced certain pokemon to be way stronger and trade evos are gone!

[@BictorBedeFan]

this! i’m playing the rebalanced version and it’s a lot of fun.

[@iohan2801]

Up

[@austinmhs]

I find a great extra rule for nuzlocking x and y is giving a number of Pokémon in the gym battles. Like just do a 3v3 if the gym leader only has 3 Pokémon. Makes the strategy a bit different

[@handsoaphandsoap]

That’s honestly such a great idea, still kinda wonky that you have to actively make the game difficult but like, it is what it is.

[@GatrickProh]

In pokemon crystal I did something similar with standard hardcore nuzlocke rules, but once you enter a gym you cannot leave, same number of pokemon or less as a gym leader, and after the gym battle only 1 pokemon can continue on in the journey and the rest have to retire. It made for a crazy game and team building (I did hack rare candies to save grinding time but damn that was fun)

[@scorn9018]

Black 2 and White 2 introduced the text "Repel is about to run out, would you like to use more?", which should make it instantly S-tier for any longtime pokemon player.

[@ThaLedg]

I've always said that Gen 6 Just suffered from not getting the third installment... Thet 3rd installment, Z, could have fixed basically all the issues people have with Gen 6. Make it harder, fix the team flare stuff a bit, Open up the world more (like the powerplant area that went unused) and expand on the lore of the 3 legendary mons. Imo the Kalos region is one of the more flavourful and best designed regions and it's a shame they shelved it so early. SWSH i like for some of the same reasons. The region is well done, the cities look amazing BUT they could have added more reasons to visit them more often. The wild area was a great idea but the execution is a little lacking. they did fix it a bit in the DLC though and it gives me hope for the future installments in the series. and now we're talking about DLC, i think it's a great addition! It extends the longevity and replayability of the games and save you from having to buy the third game

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

Too bad ppl act like its the biggest middle finger ever cuz screw it, its stinkin pokemon, its always the "cool" thing to crap on them 24/7. When they claim its cut out content on purpose to resell as DLC when nothing proves that and the fact it suffered development hell thx to TPC

[@killax5628]

@@tcideh4929 i 100% agree they should’ve just got it right the first time

[@kotaguy]

@@killax5628 say that to diamond and pearl

[@edgyanole9705]

@@killax5628 no the thing is gens 3 and 4 got amazing 3rd installments that were so much better than the originals so it should be fair to give all of them that chance

[@killax5628]

@@edgyanole9705 no what i’m saying is that there shouldn’t even be a third version in the first place they should’ve just taken their time and pushed the release date back to the third version release date

[@elNatoo]

“Don’t you dare put [X and Y] over Emerald and Platinum” chat was wilding but speaking facts

[@zachstyles4378]

B2 and W2 are my favorite games, but I’ve replayed X and Y more. There’s just so many ways to build your team. And the addition of fairy type and mega evolution was super fun even if they are a bit OP.

[@edgyanole9705]

I personally don't like the fairy type because it was OP in a not really fun way, what I mean by that is dragons are really cool and look OP while fairy's are just a type that happens to be OP. Sorry about the rant

[@i_Chug_Chlorine_22]

Looking back without nostalgia filters, I agree HG and SS are pretty bottom tier. All the difficulty of the abilities and phys/special split added in, without the level cap changing, and the safari zone didn’t really improve what you could catch for your team in the main game. Only issue with B2 W2 was they made a few gen 5 Pokémon unavailable in the main game for some reason. Fossils, the tympole line, munna, etc

[@reaganl.607]

I think HG/SS have somewhat comparable faults to diamond/pearl, personally. I've replayed them a lot and had different teams every time, whereas with d/p I struggle to even find encounters that are different, so I think their encounter table is better than d/p and the sheer amount of features in them makes up for the shortcomings of the level curve. B tier seems fair for them, idk.

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@reaganl.607 Im sorry but theres no excuse when they took the time to fix the Gym puzzles to be much more interesting (due to hardware limitations) yet STILL didnt fix the teams having Gen 1 mons. Its insane to me how ppl call Oras lazy when its features were really innovative (not saying u have to like oras and hate hgss but u can hate oras while seeing how much effort was put into it) while hgss just slaps the mons that SHOULDVE been in their respective habitats in the Safari Zone (that also has its OWN issues), the most laziest thing Ive ever seen when Oras has the DexNav

[@TopazDr]

Have to disagree there. I’ve bought and played every Pokémon games on every console. And to this day the game I’ve played the longest, and repeat and replay the adventure the most, is HG/SS. One of the only actually testing Pokemon games, in terms of difficulty. And a lot of diversity in the pokemons you can find, teams you can build, paths you can take, and themes you can focus around. That’s in contrast to… gen5 which made me quit Pokemon. To this day I’ve never managed to complete b2/w2, I can’t ever get past the cringe of the Hollywood studio unskillable scenes.

[@rubadub15]

@@TopazDr I’ve bought and played every Pokémon game in existence minus Pokémon conquest. And I’ve got to disagree with the gen 5 take. It’s my favorite generation, with generation 4 right behind it. Great Pokémon, difficulty, features, graphics and music. Yes it has small flaws but as a whole the best generation by far.

[@danfurtado9158]

Hmm are those some weird romhacks? I've only played sacred gold and storm silver. I might have to try those games out

[@jizolord69]

I love the gen 7 and six games, especially usum. The gen six story is meh, and it’s difficulty is just awful, but they’re so beautiful and have an incredible selection of pokémon throughout. In usum I think the games are just as beautiful with better overworld graphics and it truly sticks to its theme of being a unique region based on Hawaii. They have flaws, but they are so much fun to play through.

[@jreddie92]

I agree with the thought on Gen 6, but it also had the best battling and trading mechanics with the PSS. Game Freak needs to bring that back.

[@jizolord69]

@@jreddie92 that’s true. It was SOOO much more convenient than any of the bottom screens in the past gens.

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@jreddie92 FACTS. Really is so much faster than Festival Plaza (the plaza itself is fun tbh)

[@oodogla]

All this is true

[@Lau2856.]

How do people like usum? I felt ripped off. There are like no changes compared to sm.

[@portalway]

Hey flygon HG, just wanted to say, your videos are always amazing and I think we all can agree on how fortunate we are to be able to watch your content, and how happy we are every time you upload, keep up the great work!

[@PeacefulZealot]

Aww man, why you gotta do my bois Sun and Moon like that? I legitimately enjoyed the stories in them and loved the dex. But hey, to each their own!

[@jillyeon]

new intro looks sick! i'd love to see a tierlist of champions / elite four members -- what you said about bdsp having one of the more difficult elite fours made me wonder what you think of the other ones!

[@Psycho_Raged]

I love gen 4, but hold the same sentiment about D/P. Platinum is a great game. Probably my favorite with Black/White right behind.

[@dirtgrub]

Alright, since I haven't seen anyone else say this, this dude's got the calmest voice I have ever heard on a poke-tuber. Which is really good because I love listening to nuzlockes and pokemon related things while I'm drawing, but a lot of the time people are just too loud. Also his nuzlocke vids are really interesting and make me want to pick up a pokemon game and beat it in one sitting. Great job dude!

[@samueltaylor6421]

Love this video. I think it's funny, normally when I see these tier lists it's people defending the same talking points. This video reminded me that: 1 - I haven't played some of these games in years. Why did I ever feel qualified to rank Black 2 above Black when I can't remember what changed from one to the other? 2 - I love this franchise so much. This video gave me a major nostalgia kick. I think it's so funny... Pokemon Legends Arceus is coming out so soon and all I'm thinking about it how I should totally revisit Pokemon White 2 or X. Nostalgia-wise, nothing does it for me like Crystal or Emerald, but there's a lot of games in the middle that need some love.

[@Yeshua_Kristos]

Solid tier list. ^_^ Yeah, XY's great. It makes me happy to know you recognize that, too. Yellow, I would honestly put in A tier. The increased difficulty over RB opens up more room for skill expression. Plus, the redrawn sprites make everything more pleasant to look at. :D

[@justinho303]

flygon i remember you being at like 40k subs, the first video i ever watched from you was ur firered nuzlocke and i binged ur entire channel by then. Its crazy to see how much you've grown/are growing. Thanks for everything and always remember: our sponsor Skillshare.

[@burgerbody8659]

Nice work. You’re probably my favorite source for Pokémon videos. And I watch a LOT of Pokémon videos.

[@crownednova]

It’s really interesting to see these videos and where our Opinions differ. While it’s easy to get angry at these kinds of videos, I just can’t help but listen to what you have to say. What you like about games I don’t enjoy, and what you dislike about games I do enjoy

[@QuinnTheGM]

Have you considered doing a nuzlocke run in ORAS? There's a lot of variety in there, so there are definitely a lot of possibilities!

[@owenaspinall2046]

He hasn't. He has done Sapphire Fighting only though.

[@tagon2381]

@@owenaspinall2046 he also did quite a few emerald nuzlockes (normal type only, flying type only, and grass type only are the three I can remember off the top of my head)

[@owenaspinall2046]

I think he also did ground only in emerald, plus the trashlocke

[@QuinnTheGM]

@@owenaspinall2046 I know that he hasn't done one, I was asking if he'd considered doing one. Loved those runs though!

[@paolovez9688]

your content gets me through the week, thank you so much for everything you do

[@ComputerFreak1144]

I think Emerald, Platinum, and ORAS deserved S tier, but otherwise I agree with most of your sentiments. Glad to see someone else who appreciates X and Y, they were great aside from the difficulty issues!

[@randomweirdo6712]

I'm currently playing a rom hack called Eternal X that basically takes XY and makes it harder (it has a Y version too, but it's the same but for a different game). There are multiple difficulties, which is pretty cool. I recommend it to anyone who wants to have a more difficult gen 6 experience.

[@jordster401]

Really feel ORAS would be S tier had he had more experience with them.

[@lexiebutler1706]

Back at it again with the most accurate takes! Love to see it!

[@mathiasjensen2348]

Interesting tier list! Emerald will forever be s tier for me as it was the game i had the most hours in as a kid (1000+) and recently i just bought a modified GBA SP with IPS screen and pkm emerald! So fun to relive the nostalgia! And today i got shiny rayquaza! took less than 3 hours! super hyped! Also i always enjoying ur vids! Been here since a few 1000 subs and as soon as i saw your channel i watched all your vidoes! Keep 'em coming!

[@samueltaylor6421]

I feel so bad, but I can't resist leaving my personal thoughts. I love this tier list tho and I like and appreciate your explanations. Super fair and good-natured. I feel like XY as a whole was too easy, not just the boss battles. But you're right, they're really nice games -- and super underrated at that. SwSh is probably my favorite set of main series games in recent memory. That said, I need to go back and re-experience some time-honored classics. I played USUM recently and it blew me away. The challenge brought the game to life, including the characters, the Pokemon, and even the places sometimes. The totems did fall flat tho sometimes. I think one final noteworthy observation is where games fall relative to their counterparts. FRLG, BDSP, HGSS, and ORAS are all weaker than their corresponding original games. Platinum, Emerald, B2W2, and USUM are all stronger -- in some cases, substantially so. It's frustrating that Pokemon can disappoint on a years-anticipated remake, but it's refreshing to remember that some of the best Pokemon games of all time are remakes.

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

I respect and agree with ur list. I honestly think Oras beats Em imo. I dunno, it actually adds things to Hoenn than what Em did. Improved kharacters (the Ks intentional), flying over the entire region, DexNav, PokéNav Plus as a whole, was the 1st game to get a postgame episode, a completely original character in Zinnia (with her great writing and catchy as crap theme), being able to catch a Mythical ingame, made Mauville City a fullon mall instead of a boring town, the evil teams are ACTUALLY memorable, Wally was great in Oras than RSE Wally could ever be, etc.

[@yeet8036]

Bw2 feels more like they're own games rather than being third version of bw. But yeah I agree with you

[@yeet8036]

@@ejokurirulezz by that logic platinum is worse than original DP games and BDSP then

[@SubwaySandwichBossIngo]

You know what? My opinion on SwSh has drastically changed recently, about 5 days ago I picked up my Shield version that I beat a few days after launch, and I've been enjoying trying to complete the PokeDex? Then I picked up my Sword version, that I started and never beaten, and I'm having so much fun with it as well, it's honestly kinda baffling to me why I changed my mind so suddenly like this. Funnily enough, I put over 200 hours into Let's Go Eevee before even beating it. I have no idea how I did that, or where that time went. I just remember having way too much fun with that game. I didn't think I'd enjoy it, but I thought the simplicity and PoGo catching mechanic was a bit refreshing. I even got a talking eevee plush as a result, I'm a 26 year old woman who sleeps with an eevee plush shhh lol. This all being said, BW are my favorite games, they came out during my high school years, which were my favorite years, and that coupled with the music, graphics, and a lot of the Pokemon designs, they still remain my favorites. I will say though, I so far can't really bring myself to beat my Shining Pearl, but hey maybe I'll drastically change my enjoyment of the games out of no where like I did with SwSh. I could go on with all my opinions about the games, but I think I rambled enough. I just think it was real refreshing to see someone else enjoy SwSh and my comment just sorta went on from there.

[@ferociousbiscuit]

Let's Go is by far my favorite so far. It's got everything I love about pokemon but the new mechanics are so refreshing and enjoyable.

[@reaganl.607]

That's really interesting, I think my opinion of Sw/Sh took the opposite turn. i really loved and was in awe of the games when they first came out, and really enjoyed my first playthrough and stuff, but after putting 300+ hours into the games I started to see the cracks in them and now they're probably my least favorite pokemon games in the series. I found the story to be very tedious on a second playthrough, which isn't really important in Pokemon games, but sw/sh sticks out as having the most poorly done story in the franchise. After spending dozens and dozens of hours in the wild area, I started to see how lazy parts of it were and how each area feels pretty much the same. the DLC helps, but I feel like we shouldn't have to pay to what should have been the full game + postgame. Without the DLC, the games feel extremely empty and devoid of anything to do other than catch pokemon and play competitively (they are without a doubt the best games for competitive Pokemon in the series, which does redeem them a little in my eyes), whereas almost every other entry in the series had features and things to explore to keep me coming back without the need to spend $30 to add those features in. That being said, everyone is completely entitled to their own opinions. I'd probably rank sw/sh as bottom C, but I totally agree with you about gen 5. Those games came out when I was in middle school, and they were the first games where I was following the news and got super excited about every new piece of info. I remember being amazed at the moving sprites as a kid, and I think that the graphics have aged a lot better than they had any right to. Probably my most played and most loved generation by a long shot, though gen 4 is pretty close behind.

[@kelseyspolejourney5417]

My favorite part of this was when you put Sword/Shield so high and the whole chat just started going *"what"*

[@ZapperBrain]

Im interested in seeing your tier list for how FUN each game is to nuzlocke.

[@mooreshmallow]

Interesting to see someone rank the Pokémon games in-character as Nate.

[@JoaoPedro-mk8me]

Loved the new intro!! Nice video

[@athenaclark2567]

I have a soft spot for Gen 5 since that's when I got into the series, but both sets of games are incredible in my opinion

[@marlonlarry3656]

Dude finally some XY appreciation I love these games and Pokemon Z would have had the potencial to be perfect. Really sad it never got to see the light of the day

[@a2g108]

did they ever start making it? Pokemon Z?

[@marlonlarry3656]

@@a2g108 I'm not sure

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@a2g108 I think they did but it got cancelled for unknown reasons

[@stevoam6212]

Fire youtuber, keep up the tier lists I love them

[@gracidee390]

There *are* mods that make pokemon games harder, mostly hackroms for NDS and GBA but actual mods for 3ds games that you can easily install on your super special nintendo DS, and I really recommend them, they also often re-balance pokemon by changing stats, movesets, giving them a second or different typing, which makes a lot of often kinda trash pokemon pretty viable (thinking about bug types that usually only pull their weight in the early game), and that even is completely optional! I don't know if they're still available for download anymore but if you do ever come across these mods, i cannot recommend them highly enough to you! They are very very fun.

[@frozenfeet4534]

the XY a tier ranking is absolute top notch stuff. if only it was s tier where it belongs

[@morgan4626]

I monotyped SwSh with grass types and no dnynamax and Leon was so challenging. It was a really great experiance.

[@zombiemon115]

What's happening with all these uploads?!😲 Loving all the content man!!! Also Im gonna be that guy...we need a non main series Pokemon tier list!

[@suicune95]

Honestly, I couldn’t agree more on Sword and Shield. They aren’t flawless but I feel like they really take the brunt of some of the fandom’s growing malcontent with the series. My only real issue with them is that I wish they’d had a little more time to make the towns a bit more elaborate/fleshed out (Pokè!London was kind of a letdown compared to Pokè!Paris or even Pokè!NewYork). And maybe some more time to clean up the story a bit, you can tell it’s super rushed at the end and they probably intended for another area to fight through but ran out of time.

[@knutemotorsport]

From Gen 6 onward, I find the games have zero replay value b/c of the incessant unskippable cutscenes. I just can't enjoy myself with Hop/Hau constantly interfering every 2 seconds. It's so refreshing to play games from Gen 4 and earlier b/c I never have to worry about an NPC interrupting me every time I enter a new route or town.

[@DanielPereira-ey9nt]

I don't what you're talking about, Hop's interactions are very short, SwSh in special has greqt replay value, with the massive regional dex, unintrusive story, and QoL features

[@pebbellz]

I agree with you completely. I like every single pokemon game, I enjoy playing all of them, it's just that some are better than others. I don't feel like there's ever going to be a pokemon game that I don't enjoy playing. I feel like some people are overly critical of pokemon and just try to see all the bad parts of the game instead of just enjoying the games for what they are. Games for kids. They're not supposed to be hard. They're not ever going to have groundbreaking graphics. If you're playing pokemon expecting a super challenging, visually groundbreaking experience, you're playing the wrong games.

[@qc4ev3r]

I agree with you, but it would be nice some options to make the game more difficult sometimes. Like the possibility to turn off the thing that your pokemon never die because they love you :/

[@pebbellz]

@@qc4ev3r Yeah, the addition of difficulty settings would be nice, but I wouldn't hold your breath on them actually adding that into any of the main series games 😅 I actually kind of like the whole "your pokemon snapped out of confusion/cured themselves of poison/etc" thing because I grew up watching the anime, and Ash's pokemon did that shit all the time 😂 But I agree, there should always be away to avoid that, with bitter herbs or whatever.

[@aIoevera]

I love the new intro HG! I look forward to the next stream :D

[@venomizedmarkus3236]

I'm actually curious to see FlygonHG do rom hacks I know their is a Blaze Black and Volt White 2 redux coming soon and Radical Red 2.4

[@ducnguyentrong8355]

I mostly agree with all of this, but one thing to point out, HGSS with rare candy is at least A tier. As someone who's only started playing pokemon games a year ago, and dont have much gaming experience prior, HGSS were really, really beautiful aesthetically or just play the drayano hacks.

[@hitavi4965]

Nice been hoping for a tier list

[@CivilChev]

I don't do Nuzlockes so I can't really say anything about Nuzlocke rankings but here's a comment to boost the algorithm. I think Black and White / B2W2 are the pinnacle of Pokemon. Requiring everyone to have to adapt and learn a brand new set of Pokemon, no nostalgia bait, no familiarity, and you can't catch any old Pokemon until after you've proven you can beat the game with all the new ones is actually incredible! If every region did this reset I would be way more hyped to try out newer Pokemon games. This also makes remakes way more valuable because it's reintroducing older Pokemon into the current gen, which drastically changes up the competitive play, as well. The problem with Pokemon is a combination of feature creep and power creep which is due to the fact new Pokemon have to be as good or better than currently existing Pokemon. If they introduce new Pokemon each time then you don't have to worry about the scaling power creep as each new generation would get a reset in power. Finally it would be great for Pokemon to introduce a new set of Pokemon to use each generation because it also means they can't sell their games off of nostalgia, alone, and actually require them to make good games again. Sadly so many people just want to see the same Pokemon over and over that we will NEVER get another game like Black and White / B2W2 which is really sad because it was the first and only generation to really push the idea of changing the formula to let the game grow.

[@hell1228]

A nice , I can’t flygon believe got a KZbin intro, that’s epic

[@LMC_Jarred]

I never played FRLG or HGSS, so when thinking about BDSP, I just assumed that it was the odd one out of the remakes and played it too safe with what it changed and added. Hearing about them in this video, though, I guess ORAS was actually the outlier, but a positive rather than a negative.

[@alijohar4937]

ORAS is an infinitely better game with so many more Pokémon and things to do post game. Also Mega Evolution. BDSP is arguably the worst game I’ve played

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

@@alijohar4937 Its even better than hgss. Dont have to deal with the grind and the characters all feel memorable (Wally being a great example), the new features feel REALLY innovating, we can get a Mythical ingame, got a completely orignal character in Zinnia, etc.

[@felonyx5123]

The first two remakes, the point was to release fundamentally the same game without being held back by running on a brick from 1989 (Gold and Silver worked on original gameboys, only Crystal required GBC). Having more than two colors per sprite was enough of a selling point for FRLG, though despite not changing the main game much it did add a fair amount of optional postgame on top. Ruby and Sapphire came out on the same hardware as FRLG, they were the baseline of technical competence previous remakes were meant to bring Gen 1 up to, so they must have thought they couldn't just sell ORAS on being functional and possessing graphics when the originals already functioned and possessed graphics. Then they gave up, and sold BDSP on being functional and possessing graphics, when they're about as buggy as the originals and a side-grade at best in graphics. Sales numbers suggest giving up works.

[@lanceams483]

Played through SWSH many times. Every time it was a unique team of pokemon, something that I was actually quite sad to see going to BDSP. I guess I got so used to using anything I wanted once I reached the wild area that playing an old-fashioned pokemon game kinda bored me.

[@etienneherren9508]

that you put D/P on B surprises me. I think those are only barely playable because they are sooo freakin slow pased. Without a emulator to speed up the gameplay it is just brutal. Very entertaining video, thank you.

[@kylechrzanowski7145]

Sword and shield have the most casual replay ability in my opinion. Just so much to grind for and gain just love them tbh

[@Sweet_Rosie607]

that new intro is clean af

[@Pwrplus5]

Before you said you were wearing 3 hats I thought it was a Nate cosplay You could always bust it out on Halloween

[@JackFPS.]

hey could you make a psychic type monotype in pokemon emerald? although you should level a ralst until it learns an attack and you would need another pokemon to defeat the magma team poochyena but i have never seen anything done on youtube and i would like to see it :)

[@jakobkleeman6705]

LOVE the new intro!!

[@Joel-xr8xc]

You should do a Pokemon Black hard-core nuzlocke where your team consists of the ace Pokemon of all the gym leaders so you have 8 encounters

[@anthonybeck21]

As someone who stopped gen 3 cant believe I missed platinum. Tied with emerald imo as best poke games.

[@theschachter9816]

Heyyy well as a youtube commenter, I do love having my opinions validated! (Just kidding... mostly :P ) For what it's worth, I haven't played the Let's Go games but I've watched a few different people play parts of them, including people who play very few video games, and I don't think it's entirely fair to say they're simply for babies. To me it seems clear that they've made these games targeted at least in part to people whose only experience with Pokemon (or maybe even video games in general beyond mobile titles) was Pokemon Go. For anyone with some gaming/rpg experience, the games are hilariously easy, but if you've ever watched someone completely new to games try and play a pokemon game (especially the newer ones), how "easy" or "difficult" they are by *our* criteria really doesn't come into play that much for them, because in spite of their very broad target demographic, pokemon games still have a lot of information to take in for someone who doesn't already have some experience parsing all the menus and numbers the game throws up on screen. This is completely invisible to us because it's already second nature, but watching a complete newbie trying to get to grips with it is rather eye-opening. In that context, removing abilities does make sense; they're a layer of complexity which has very inconsistent applications in a normal playthrough that can throw a wrench into a new player's learning process, and I suspect they wanted to avoid that in this case. Not that it has to change their rating on this list or anything, but I always feel like when pokemon fans talk about these games, they fail to realize just how much of a gulf there is between someone who's played some pokemon games before (even casually) and someone who has never played a pc/console game trying out pokemon for the first time. Hell, this stuff might be even more challenging for brand new adults, who don't learn as easily as kids and tend to have more of an expectation of learning how things work before playing as opposed to just doing whatever and half-figuring it out along the way. Also, I'm glad to hear someone else having similar feelings to me about SwSh haha

[@indigoblue8600]

I don’t think I’ve ever aligned with a pkmn game tier list more… I might switch around HG/SS but other than that I am so with you!

[@nudnud9]

shout out to iwadderboy at 5:06 for being one of the most toxic people i could find in this video!

[@Nick.Avramov]

Thank you for acknowledging that x and y are both great games even for how easy they are, they get too much hate for how well they were able to make Kalos.

[@gerritwissink3080]

You know, I don't agree with you on a lot of these but it's neat seeing your opinion on the pokemon games

[@karlols2321]

I would love a tier list of all your fav pokemons

[@patrickwaters4101]

The spinning signs on the pokemarts in HGSS blew my mind as a little lad lol

[@WavesofColours]

Thank you!!! I love Pokémon Sword and Shield, the game itself was just so enjoyable and the replayability of it, personally, is great 💜

[@ranharush2929]

I don't know why, but hearing you say "hutzpa" just goes so hard

[@maguirebentz797]

Love the video. Not here to get mad at you for YOUR tier list, mine is different so I can make my own. But I want to voice my own opinion on my rant about Gen 4, platinum is an A tier while diamond and pearl are low C tier. Platinum is the best enhanced version by far. DP dex had 2 fire types and ones a starter (terrible dex in general, why add so many new mons only to the post game), kind of lacking gym designs, and an overall worse story. There’s a reason I spent hundreds of hours on platinum as a kid and didn’t finish a diamond run until last year. The battle front was another great addition too. BDSP should have been a platinum remake, even if they still made it two versions

[@N8ith]

I completely agree with this tier list, this man is a beanius

[@wazzupyuwu]

your new intro and outro are super cute aww!!!

[@ItachiUchiha-uz7kt]

Never clicked so fast 😂...Love your Videos♥️♥️

[@MrA6060]

IMO the only reason gen 4 is so well seen is only because we got a trash game and a quite good game in the same gen, so going from trash to good is what people loved in the 4th gen, my very first pokemon was pokemon pearl, and even then i didn't enjoy it, i've replayed it recently and they are still as bad as i remember, but i've also played pokemon platinum recently and again, it's not as good as i remembered. Black and white were fine honestly, completely new pokédex forced you to use new pokémons, black 2 and white 2 were the better version, it was a sequel and they did it in a good way i think, new part of the region, changed things around, added new pokémons to the pokédex so the teams could be even better. Also the seasons were a new thing and i think they were alright, i think that 1 month for a season was too much time, i always finished the main story in a week or so, so waiting an entire month (without changing the console's clock, i hate doing that) is way too much. for the rest i kinda agree, the let's go pokémons are really bad and for children, and i don't think they belong to the main series category, it's more like a spin-off, but i don't think they'll ever do another let's go game, i don't remember 2 jhoto pokémons that would be suited for the cover and starter tbh

[@tusharkaul3602]

Ayooo, new intro looks neat!

[@salmonandsoup]

Loved this tier list! My only major disagreement is Sun and Moon. I loved playing Sun and trying to Nuzlocke it. Platinum, to me, also deserves S tier, just out of nostalgia tho (DPP was my starting generation and Platinum holds a special place in my heart).

[@SlamTackle]

Very reasonable takes. It's refreshing to see someone take a considered look at the 3DS and later games. I'd personally have put FRLG above RBY, and sandwiched ORAS between Emerald and RS.

[@martyshrekster]

Glad to see some love for Sword and Shield. There's some stuff wrong with them for sure but having not played a Pokémon game since Gen 4, it was really a lot of fun for me.

[@zehraparlak3842]

The intro animation is everything omg

[@Kai-tu7xw]

What a banger list!

[@tommybrancato7887]

i love how courriway town theme came on while you praised X and Y

[@jordidewaard2937]

First ever game was Crystal, but X and Y as a 13 year old just joining secondary school (and feeling too embarassed to share my Pokemon love) has a special place to me. I LOVE the map and it looks really nice as well, but why is it so goddarn easy....

[@CrayRT]

NEW INTRO. Looks great

[@rc4780]

Hardcore Grass type nuzlocke in Alpha Sapphire. It’s so much fun.

[@joeyteter9383]

Also also, I think Black and White only allowing new Pokémon was great. Maybe that’s just me, but I loved the Unova dex and only being allowed to use it

[@conormaguire690]

Ranking gen 1 types (ranking grass types for example), so its a smaller category, plus you could rank them based on their score. Crown them by type and then do it for gen 2 and see does the gen 1 grass type beat the gen 2 grass type, then it becomes perpetual content

[@paulg9019]

i loved gen 4 as a kid it was the main games i started with but they were a lot harder than i remember

[@choklat4606]

Agreed with everything on this list except usum for me is A tier Unexpected

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

Ultra Sun is Best Trainer Class as its one of my other alltime favorite games (the others being Sonic Unleashed and COD Black Ops 1). I absolutely LOVE Ultra Sun (got me into pkmn and rpgs as a whole)

[@goldegreen]

Ultra Moon is what got me into Pokemon. Granted it could have been any of the other 3DS Pokemon games, that's just the one I decided to play first. But who knows, a different title might not have gotten me as hooked.

[@Napkiner]

You think BDSP is worse than original diamond and pearl? IMO, as someone who only played Platinum and not the original diamond and pearl but know a bit about the games in relation to platinum, BDSP just seemed like strict upgrades. They aren't better than Platinum, but I don't ever see myself picking original diamond and pearl over BDSP. The graphics and (small) quality of life changes make it better than the originals, but left out way too much content from platinum that could have easily been added. Basically, I'll replay platinum, I probably won't replay BDSP, but I'll never actually play diamond and pearl.

[@EPE77U]

I agree. There's no point playing original D/P when platinum exists but I really disagree with artstyle or like you say graphics. Even though there's not much animations going on original gen 4, the pixel art is still gorgeous for me. The game doesn't have bad graphics, just different art style. Better comparison would be between two 3d games such as X/Y and BDSP, which BDSP wins easily in terms of graphics, but maybe not art style/direction wise

[@Napkiner]

@@EPE77U Fair, I can appreciate a preference between 3D and 2D, and of course many of the 3D models are subjectively worse than their 2D counterparts

[@EPE77U]

@@Napkiner It's also fair to like more bdsp than d/p in terms of overall look but yeah the right term is art style I'm pretty sure

[@AspenShadow]

Perhaps tier rankings of past challenges you’ve done? (I’ve also seen X and Y get a lot of hate! It’s cool to see someone else w my opinion, including the battles. I have a shiny Chesnaught… first Pokémon I ever got to level 100. I have such a soft spot for him.)

[@Blastronaute]

I’d probably rank all the gen 1 and 2 games at f just because there’s almost no reason to play them over their respective remakes. I can see why people would prefer rse or dpp over their remakes, but not the first two gens. I also have a hard time going back to gen 3 games because not having the physical special split sucks and the earlier games even til gen 4 have a lot more instances of Pokémon being annoyingly hard to find/evolve before the postgame and many Pokémon having absolutely atrocious level up movesets Gliscor is one of my favorite Pokémon and it suffers from both of these problems. The remakes not fixing this really pissed me off

[@MG-mq3zf]

I used to agree about gen one until I discovered the world of creative world of gen 1 jank and how I could get it to work for me. It was pretty fun going through Kanto in gen one after really knowing how Kanto works "under the hood." The remake fixes the glitches and exploits naturally, but in some cases makes for a more vanilla experience. I'm not saying FRLG aren't better, just that red, blue, and yellow have their charms.

[@bradbradfordson9158]

X and y are probably my favorite gen(I've been playing since the first gen) but your judgement is totally fair. Solid a tier, needed more difficulty.

[@reymorr9429]

Omg a gen 1 veteran that like gen 6? Thats rare. I agree with your opinion gen 6 is underrated

[@bradbradfordson9158]

@@reymorr9429 eeeyyy, we exist. I love gen 1, although I also agree with his assessment of the gen 1 remakes on both counts. But gen 6 was special. Ally friends from school started playing again and the online had was fantastic.

[@joeyteter9383]

As someone who’s been playing since Gen 1 I must say…the Unova games are by far my favorite. The ones that are most disappointing imo are the Alola games. I love the look, feel, aesthetic etc., but man those cut scenes are a killer. I’d really like them if they would’ve cut some of the fat. Especially USUM. Also, I really enjoy X/Y as well. I had the most fun with it when I did a “bad” Pokémon run (mostly just mons with a base stat total well below 500). Still beat it, but it was slightly more challenging and I got the most out of it then

[@RollyCoaster]

Hilarious title when you compare it to Pokémon Challenges title ego

[@nalinparihar]

After I completed usum hardcore nuzlocke today I think these games are Placed at perfect Tier because These games are tonn of fun to nuzlocke but the cutscenes and grinding hurts this game's replay value a lot

[@skullerclawerbandicoot7966]

I dunno, I didnt really mind the cutscenes (I mean, Persona 5 had so many cutscenes at every step), just felt as a minor annoyance. How is the grinding bad in Ultra? I found it pretty quick thx to the new Exp Share and items to get more exp, thats a gsc/hgss issue

[@nalinparihar]

@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 I am actually just talking about grinding to lvl up in general bcz speed up in emulator Citra is not so fast as it highly depends upon the system also I agree with the exp share thing but there is also the lvl cap to adhere depending on nuzlocke

[@stellarknight04]

The new intro is sick

[@Matthew-KC]

I mostly agree with everything! As someone who is relatively younger, I don’t have any of the nostalgia for gen 1-3 that I know others have; I honestly didn’t care for any of them much. I would have put DPP higher and BW lower though.

[@xeno_phobik]

I have to disagree that Emerald is the same as the other two. The option to get both fossils, access to Ditto and Sudowoodo postgame. The Steven postgame boss fight. Just my opinion. Love your videos Flygon!