Digging Up Old Facebook Messages - The Try Pod Ep. 288

[@xgreydovex]

You're the first major platform I've seen speak so candidly about the shit that's actually happening and matters. I knew I loved you guys for a reason.

[@EvWuzhere]

??? What are you watching because almost no big podcasts i regularly listen to havent addressed this

[@zerocraic3966]

This and YCSWU’s reactions have made me feel so much less crazy. I am a chronic rule following collective benefit square lady and mile’s immediately jumping to should i get arrested bc who cares, completely covers how i feel. The boys weighing in on misinformation, class warfare, and reaching across the aisle to bigoted spaces are all thoughts ive had this month. I love these fuckers

[@zerocraic3966]

@@EvWuzherei only watch headgum and perfect person so i am biased ofc but i dont feel either robustly addressed this buildup of rights wing boy misinformation/gen z man frustration, overthrowing billionaires, etc the way these guys have.

[@xgreydovex]

@@EvWuzhere Addressed and discussed are wildly different things. Which podcasts are you referring to? Admittedly I stopped following a lot of outlets due to the blockout for Palestine movement.

[@BoogieIRL]

H3 LITERALLY DOES IT. WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE SHOWS LINK UP. Sorr6 for the all caps. Im so high right now.

[@iammonalisa008]

58:55 I’m a certified wound care RN and I work in an orthopedic trauma clinic - please don’t use hydrogen peroxide or rubbing alcohol on wounds! They are both cytotoxic so they actually kill the good cells you need for healing. Just use water and a gentle soap or saline to cleanse the wound :) love the pod and I love Second Try!

[@nintando]

+

[@travelswithblindcane]

commenting to get this higher!

[@whatevenarenames4696]

wait so how do you clean a wound?

[@nintando]

@@whatevenarenames4696 unscented soap and water or saline as the original comment said. some providers recommend using vaseline once the wound is closed to keep it from drying out as well. similar process to healing a tattoo if you're familiar

[@nintando]

@@whatevenarenames4696 unscented soap and water as the original commenter said. some providers also recommend using vaseline to keep the wound from drying out once it's closed. it's similar to healing a tattoo if you're at all familiar with that process.

[@eveiveneg637]

Joy is an act of resistance. Rest is an act of resistance. Same team. Let's do it.

[@munkyy02]

Idles ❤

[@andrewrichards1472]

Watched the first five min so far and Hell yeah I needed this energy from you guys. Screw billionaires and fascist.

[@theyJC]

proletariat revolution!

[@Aishwariyav213]

But I’m sure you love t swift or any other billionaire celeb right?

[@andrewrichards1472]

@ that’s a nope. T swift is good but I don’t listen to her. I don’t think billionaires should exist.

[@emmagalindo4061]

The blur when Miles shirt went up 😂🤣

[@ofthenearfuture]

Don't need another nipplegate lol

[@eyeseajujubee]

Saving this episode for whenever I’m feeling disheartened. The humor, empathy, comfort, and outrage combo is what we needed.

[@qwenyodi2478]

Im canadian, and seeing this play out as your neighbor was terrifying. Seeing people interviewed who voted for trump and their reasoning was "why not' was BEYOND frustrating to watch. Fellow women actively voting for a rapist and woman rights anti-advocate is beyond my mental capacity. I really dont understand

[@zerocraic3966]

As a fellow Canadian who lived in a socal safety bubble during Biden and returned to canada last year…. Our extremism and bigotry as a society is bordering on (for me as agay brown educated woman) intolerable. Living here for a year before the election actually calibrated my expectations a little holy shit young Canadians are so hateful and YT bruh educated it is scary. I would never survive a Canadian college or high school in 2024. The bigotry is astounding. Keep in mine our own conservative fascist PP cannot even get a security clearance. You cant even work in fucking PAYROLL in Ottawa without one. Stephen fucking harper basically controls Albertan pensions m We need pay fucking attention to whats going in our own yard before condescendingly or ignorantly being outraged by our southern neighbors. Bc the call is coming from fucking INSIDE THE HOUSE. We owe if to our children and marginalized communities to speak out at home before woeing our American friends. And this isnt a new problem in Canada. I moved to Canada 15 years ago and it was just as undereducated and intolerant in large swaths of the country its like gay people and weed became federally protected and the working class Canadians just fucking coasted on those wins as labeling us as being progressive. We absolutely are not.

[@YewbarCovel]

Blue wasnt promising anything different and Roe was overturned when Blue was in power. Everyone loves to cling to the excuse Trump appointed those people. Why can't Blue appoint people? Why can't Blue defend human rights?? There was no excuse. Blue just doesn't care. Unless you live in British Columbia Canada isn't much different.

[@michelle19000]

I'm sorry, but you did not live through 4 years of the Biden administration. So you don't understand write. A lot of people voted for trump as a lesser of two evils

[@Swede-m7q]

Resistance works! Matt Gaetz just withdrew! Hallelujah!

[@ferisera]

I had to google, daring to hope this was true. ... it is! That report about him must have been REALLY bad.

[@ceg4609]

and he already resigned from the House because he made it "effective immediately" to prevent the ethics committee from releasing their report. karma is awesome.

[@Swede-m7q]

@@ceg4609❤😂

[@JessicaLopez-qe1xw]

​@@ceg4609i wish they would still release the report... they can if they want.

[@MikeAvoo]

Resistance played no part in it.

[@ThatBruja]

Miles is so real. Seriously contemplating getting arrested for protesting? Haha gotta love the guy. Love ALL you guys! Literally the group of people who have consistently spoken up about things happening. Free Palestine!

[@itsyagirljessssss]

21:31 this is similar to a lot of the commentary and criticism I've seen surrounding Jubilee's Middle Ground. It's so complicated because I think the idea of normalizing extreme views is so dangerous but I understand the benefits of not shutting down these conversations too.

[@kellyspaghettti]

The problem is framing the two sides they go with as equal opposites

[@cael_aj]

It's been really disheartening to see Middle Ground go from genuinely respectful and interesting conversations from opposing viewpoints to people from two different sides just talking or shouting at each other and often degrading each other. Every once in a while they have videos that are primarily respectful but it's been fewer and farther between. And I can't tell if it's a Jubilee issue or a larger societal issue, or a little of both.

[@myplaylists6310]

Ethan doesn’t have extreme views though, I really understand where you’re coming from though there’s just been a lot of misinformation spread about Ethan’s views (not saying he’s without wrong or incorrect presentation he’s a messy b1tch)

[@IAmTheTruCanadian]

lmao Ethan is not extreme, if ethan is extreme... we have lost the plot

[@bobbobelito1632]

@@IAmTheTruCanadian That Yuov Gallant is a great guy, a moderating voice and that it was a shame that this guy, who now got an arrest warrant, was fired. They didnt even understand why he was fired (He was trying to conscript orthodox jews into the army, after he was fired he said that he did all he had to do in gaza, same guy who said they were fighting human animals and that gaza should be starved). They called out pro-palestine avocates as anti-semites, h3h3 has claimed to represent all jews on multiple occasions, wanting to get any pro-palestinian voice banned off of twitch. Hila thinks that palestinians are actively trained to hate israelis from 2 years of age (the I mean.. clip). Ethan made fun of Aron Bushnell. He is pretty disgusting, anyone going against Israel he call a terrorist, just look at the shit he did against Hasan. And he is crybullying against people saying he is spiralling, saying you cant make fun of mental health. Ethan has done that on so many occasions, total fucking hypocrite. Ethan also called Emma from the majority report a rape apologist. He just recently in his last episode said he was more pro israeli and understanding of israeli perspective compared to pro-palestinian voices. The anti-genocide voice that hasnt talked about the atrocities in Gaza. That uses any opportunity to make the genocide about him. Keep supporting that toxic asshat who didnt even know who the fuck Yuov Gallant was by own admission, then defended him in his instagram stories only to make a half-hearted apology afterwards, while also claiming he was a moderating voice. Look at gaza. Nice moderation. A really nice guy.

[@KB-cs9tu]

You need to add miles to the pod title card

[@moodybookworm7856]

#Justiceformiles

[@danny.antoni]

I’ve been thinking this for years!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

It’s really a tragedy and sending all my love to the Americans (the non-bigoted ones).

[@greenspark101]

Wait…so you’re bigotedly sending love 😅

[@jessicalocklear762]

Send love to the bigoted ones too- they’ll need it and many of us will struggle to comfort those who made the bed dirty.

[@ChefSarah4104]

I think comedy is important because it's a bit of a "break" from reality, and gives me something to laugh with and enjoy.

[@francis2fly]

Young Keith and Zach were such sweet innocents. LOL

[@lindygouldie]

The way I gasped when Keith said H3

[@keetyalexx]

I think of RENT: “The opposite of war isn’t peace, it’s creation.” I’ve been crafting and writing to cope - putting new things into the world, a net positive, and making sparks of hope for myself. Same team. None of us are alone. Lace up your boots and let’s do this.

[@travelswithblindcane]

As a type 1 diabetic who had to leave the States due to the cost of insulin decades ago, the rise of this gross idiocy here in Europe is appalling. I've got my armor on, let's fucking go!

[@brynnisgreasy]

miles- pleeeease have olivia on perfect person 💅

[@abbiburgess451]

I WAS THINKING THE SAAAAME THING

[@mimiimim4684]

@@brynnisgreasy omg pleaseeee

[@myplaylists6310]

YESSSSS AT LEAST

[@he.said.teenjiejer]

ally beardsley is a fucking legend and i’m glad to hear miles say it

[@valenfigurka]

The “boys are clueless” part of the conversation has me doubled over with laughter. As a woman who is (unfortunately only) into men, I’ve never felt more vindicated!

[@blessedbyacurse]

Straight women are evidence that sexuality truly is not a choice. Why would I WANT to be into straight men? But alas, I am.

[@brooklynparkse]

My thoughts on the matter at this point is “who else is going to reeducate the masses besides us?” Algorithms have so strictly bifurcated us, people on the right are rarely going to organically come to you. YOU have to go to them. Bernie Sanders will talk to anyone because his message is universal and therefore he can change minds. I consider “platforming” someone inviting them onto YOUR podcast.

[@sophienicholson9966]

Agreed! Right now keeping conversations open, no matter how much we disagree (within reason), is the key to reducing our national polarozarion.

[@riojanellex]

19:54 OLIVA MENTION 💞 if you guys can’t go on H3 can we have Oliv on the pod? Maybe a plog even? The vibe would go crazy I just know it

[@susannahmace845]

WOlivia >>>

[@hoelantao]

oh-oliviaa

[@sashagordon1196]

Do NOT go on H3 he will turn on you so fast. Too dangerous. Olivia is cool though. Still you might jeapordize her job if you invite her and not the Kleins

[@MK-sh2qm]

Hard pass… H3 fans need a reality check. The h3 host goes on unhinged rants on small/POC content creators and yet his viewers think he’s an ally? H3 is NOT a good look

[@Chloe-bu8vy]

olivia is the ONLY acceptable guest from the show 💗🥰

[@ewgrosshaley]

as an old h3h3 fan, dont go on. theres plenty of overlap where you wont gain another audience you would just benefit him. Maybe you would clear things up in his head but also probably not. I dont think going on does anything for you. any time they talk about you the chat is checking them because the chat is big fans of yall

[@pamelac3940]

Re: H3 podcast, a month ago I would've fully supported you guys going on. At this point after Ethan's descent into unhinged, bad faith hate during the past few weeks? No way. Don't engage.

[@Amazingme478]

I fully agree. The podcast has become unwatchable. If they go on and try to disagree with Ethan in any capacity, it will become Ethan’s sole purpose in life to take down TryGuys. It’s not worth it

[@pamelac3940]

@@Amazingme478 Yep, he will devote his entire life for weeks to character attacks over even small disagreements. Not worth it. I was a H3 fan for a long time but it's totally unwatchable now.

[@Raevynwing]

He turned into Trisha. Insane lol

[@hienhong3259]

@@Raevynwingthe funny thing is, they’d have a better time going on Trisha’s show right now to talk about silly pop culture stuff LOL

[@Amazingme478]

@@pamelac3940I was a long time fan as well. I unsubscribed three weeks ago bc I couldn’t handle it anymore.

[@JENFABULOUS]

According to Miles, Christmas is on October 25th. No longer need to buy presents, I love this for me.

[@SKirxx]

I would be so pleasantly surprised if they decide to go on h3. It's not like it would be platforming some right-wing maga supporter or anything. They seem to be on the same side, Ethan's viewpoints are pretty reasonable, despite what you see from people online lately.

[@vegact3838]

Thank you for pointing that out. The fact people are trying to smear Ethan as hateful is ridiculous.

[@3000bullets]

Ethan hasn’t been exactly “reasonable” though. I’m sure someone that isn’t Islamic can speak truth to him though, cus he clearly won’t listen to even AB about these things

[@nb6166]

The hate towards Hassan has been far from reasonable and almost cultish in nature.

[@LadyWoot]

I think his personal beef with Hasan has hindered him from hearing reasonable arguments about the open antisemitism in many circles claiming to be pro Palestine or even the separation from being Jewish and contextually Zionist. I think Zach could speak from a Jewish standpoint to discuss the nuance behind an oppressed people being the victim of a government that pretends the two are the same

[@beefrd]

ALLY BEARDSLEY MENTION 100000/10

[@unionize_me]

I need them on Perfect Person!

[@secksworker]

miles nation 2024 yea woo

[@npeliroja89]

I live in Brooklyn, NY & it was eerily quiet that Wednesday after the election. So sad at the results & how bad its gonna be.

[@mikewozawski1634]

Country's gonna be great. People are gonna be thriving

[@ceg4609]

@@mikewozawski1634 when their healthcare protections are rolled back or when they can no longer vaccinate their newborns?

[@itsNinaLeeyo]

I will never forget what Zuckerberg did to Andrew Garfield. Btw, need to go re-watch 😂 I really like how this episode turned out. Good segment Rainie!

[@looseygoosey39]

The misinformation being pushed about Ethan and H3 is sad tbh. And to hear the Try Guys buying into it is disappointing.

[@bobbobelito1632]

Truth***

[@bobbobelito1632]

To this day Ethan still calls Yuov Gallant a moderating voice. He claimed to have no idea who he even was afterwards. How is the architecht of the genocide in Gaza a 'moderating voice'? In Ethans instagram stories, he even said that his quote about starving gaza was directed at Hamas, which is a lie. The full statement, he says Gaza. The same Ethan who made fun of Aaron Bushnell. But Ethan now says you cant make fun of people with mental health issues, now that people say he is spiralling. This is the same guy who played Twitch or Terrorist on stream, featuring Hasan next to Bin Ladin. The same guy who ran a campaign to get any pro-palestinian voice banned of the platform because he felt hurt he couldnt say habibi (he had given himself that pass previously lol). Ethan, the anti genocide guy who strangely doesnt mention it. Who calls it a ''war''. Who calls Netanyahu, a war criminal, ''Bibi''. Cute nickname, wonder if other genociders get one?

[@bobbobelito1632]

Oh, he also recently denied doing blackface lol, then that video of him doing blackface multiple times popped up. But he loves to play a victim. Dont get how his community still defends him like how he is defending Yuov Gallant. The same Ethan, who now said he is more understanding of Israel than most pro-palestinian voices. It's interesting how he claims to represents all jews. ''Just talk to your jewish friend'' to Hasan. There are plenty of people who have other perspectives. Ethans insistance on claiming jewish people are a monolith represented by him is hybris and unproductive. When Hasan said he should just call Sam Seeder, he was called antisemitic by Ethan. What a swell guy. There is no need for misinformation. Just what actually happened, there's plenty of receipts.

[@madison77621]

@@bobbobelito1632yes, thank you!

[@chloevolkland6654]

Hey just want to say I am a long time tryguy fan and a long time H3 fan and I think you guys would be doing yourselves a disservice by not speaking to Ethan even privately although it would be way more progressive to do it on a pod. Ethan is completely against this genocide it just makes him feel unsafe to see people being proud Nazis walking around with the Nazi flag. I would imagine that makes you guys uncomfortable also in fact I believe Zach specifically has spoken out about the current raise of antisemitism. Even before talking about Ethan the mark zuc conversation is literally Ethan in a different font…it’s a good thing. You guys have overlap in fans. More than overlap really like don’t really understand this thought process.

[@RunRiotProd]

that fact that you have to emphasise that ethan is against the genocide proofs in what crazy world were living in.. even tryguys perpetuating the lieas about ethan is so crazy to me

[@chloevolkland6654]

@ exactly it actually makes me concerned for the things they could be consuming content wise. They talk about how crazy Elon is so if they are getting their Ethan info from Twitter I don’t know how that would make any logical sense honestly. Really sad and confused to see this take from them honestly

[@bobbobelito1632]

@@chloevolkland6654 That Yuov Gallant is a great guy, a moderating voice and that it was a shame that this guy, who now got an arrest warrant, was fired. They didnt even understand why he was fired (He was trying to conscript orthodox jews into the army, after he was fired he said that he did all he had to do in gaza, same guy who said they were fighting human animals and that gaza should be starved). They called out pro-palestine avocates as anti-semites, h3h3 has claimed to represent all jews on multiple occasions, wanting to get any pro-palestinian voice banned off of twitch. Hila thinks that palestinians are actively trained to hate israelis from 2 years of age (the I mean.. clip). Ethan made fun of Aron Bushnell. He is pretty disgusting, anyone going against Israel he call a terrorist, just look at the shit he did against Hasan. And he is crybullying against people saying he is spiralling, saying you cant make fun of mental health. Ethan has done that on so many occasions, total fucking hypocrite. Ethan also called Emma from the majority report a rape apologist. He just recently in his last episode said he was more pro israeli and understanding of israeli perspective compared to pro-palestinian voices. The anti-genocide voice that hasnt talked about the atrocities in Gaza. That uses any opportunity to make the genocide about him. Keep supporting that toxic asshat who didnt even know who the fuck Yuov Gallant was by own admission, then defended him in his instagram stories only to make a half-hearted apology afterwards, while also claiming he was a moderating voice. Look at gaza. Nice moderation. A really nice guy.

[@bobbobelito1632]

@@RunRiotProd It's so fucking weird that you assume you have to lie about Ethan and what he said. Telling the truth is enough. Donating a small amount of money to Palestine while he was with Hasan. Imagine going after the biggest pro palestinian voice on twitch for ego reasons, using schizo arguements from the Destiny community. Playing 'twitch or terrorist' with Hasan and Bin Laden on the front page. Ignoring what AB said when he called it fucked. Dan said he had played that game before. Yeah, these are the anti-genocide defenders. If only they would talk about the genocide, eh? Or should I use Ethans words for it, war? That he is 'more sympathetic to Israel' when they are genociding. He just said that. Listen to the last podcast. Or dont, find someone else.

[@r0b0kat]

No fr find one clip of Ethan saying anything against Palestine and find one clip of him saying anything but bibi is bloodthirsty. YOU CANNOT

[@beefrd]

The energy y'all are bringing to this is so refreshing and SO needed. maybe..... not all men.

[@sparkleandspunk]

She didn’t do Rogan because he refused to meet her scheduling needs/ not due to perception

[@a_o011]

Neither refused. They were both stubborn. He wanted it to be held at his studio, where he has all of his equipment- fair. And she wanted it to be held where she was located because of her campaign and vp obligations-fair. But unfortunate she did say it could only be for 1hr if she did go to him.

[@littlehaven7275]

Both have confirmed that that was not true.

[@Alice-cp9sy]

A really important point regarding H3 is that Ethan doesn’t deal with disagreement very well. He has a habit of falling out with people and then getting quite toxic and personal. I definitely think you should share spaces with people you disagree with but I don’t think he’s a good faith actor, ESPECIALLY on I/P. Take care of your peace and brand ❤

[@stephanie7142]

Personally, I disagree. As a viewer of both, they share a lot of the same opinions politically & socially. If they don’t want to share a space with someone who agrees with majority of what they also believe and fight for because he’s polarizing, how could they ever have a productive conversation with someone that has a completely different audience?

[@Alice-cp9sy]

@stephanie7142 because productive conversations can only happen in good faith and I sadly think Ethan is too emotional on I/P to be good faith. Ethan has not shown himself to be able to be ok with people disagreeing with him. Plus, a lot of toxicity in the fandom right now and I don’t think the Try Guys deserve to be caught up in that, especially Zach. I would support a private conversation between Zach and Ethan though as I don’t think anyone should be shunned. But a collaboration right now is a bad idea. Ethan also is nowhere near as influential as Joe Rogan (no offence) so the pay off is not as large.

[@KaileyTart]

I think a lot of people saying this don’t watch the h3 podcast. I’ve watched every episode since 2016 (before the podcast when it was just Ethan/Hila’s channel) and Ethan shares very similar views to the Try Guys.

[@tdaddy26]

Exactly. You can talk to people who disagree with you as long as they will be open to your views, but Ethan won't be. He's proven himself to not be able to.

[@sashagordon1196]

Yep Ethan can’t handle it; and worse if you antagonize him he’ll use his influence to attack. He can do harm. Be careful please

[@sebastianxavier9068]

It's interesting hearing your perspectives on appearing on platforms/channels with wildly opposing views and standpoints to your own. I guess, from a comms standpoint, in comes down to whether you want to speak within your echo chamber of like-minded people, or if you want to use your voice and the strength of your platform to speak outside of that. You've got a strong following, and you've built a really solid brand trust and recognition of the Second Try platform that I genuinely think that appearing on channels that have those differing viewpoints honestly elevates this "speaking truth to power" strategy you're taking moving forward. It stands to build faith and trust in your brand further by speaking to and against those people on behalf of the people who don't have the platform, it's using your platform to challenge dangerous positions and ideologies.

[@hannahr61]

Would love to see you interview H3 on your pod and H3 interview you on theirs

[@mariaeduarda-rk4hr]

I think they just poisoned the well for that 😔

[@SnakeMCGaming]

I’m sorry Keith, but KZbin memberships are NOT the same thing as the paid service you guys tried to launch. That was an incredibly bad faith statement

[@maddyoregan]

Am I crazy or did yesterday's Perfect Person podcast also mention the "MARKKK!" scene 😂 Miles, you're obsessed and I love it

[@zerocraic3966]

I just rewatched the PP episode and you’re completely right the man loves Andrew garfield 💀🤣💀

[@mariaeduarda-rk4hr]

Ok so , I'm a fan I really am and recognise h3h3 is way edgier than this show but let's be clear Ethan never said "horrible things about Palestinian supporters" Ethan supports Palestine he is just against being called a "Zionist Pigdog" for supporting a 2 state solution. What do you want him to say "nuke Israel of the map" he lived there for years. If Ethan Klein is to extreme for you i don't know what extreme means anymore.

[@Blurggg]

Please do the H3 podcast. I think your assumptions of Ethan aren't entirely accurate. I'm a huge fan of both and would love to see you all talk it out. Trust in Olivia! ❤

[@LadyArete]

I think them saying he’s said hateful things is a slander already. I don’t know about you but I’m done with giving these guys a second try.

[@3000bullets]

I don’t find their assumptions inaccurate at all, Ethan’s been unhinged, and it’s unfortunate that his fans won’t call him out on that.

[@bobbobelito1632]

Yeah he literally called Emma from the Majority Report a r*pe apologist, still to this day claim that Yuov Gallant is a moderate voice.

[@spiffysixxsense2694]

Did nobody notice that Keith said "October 25th" and miles is like CHRISTMAS!?!?!? lol

[@bluehillhomestead6835]

I LIVE FOR THIS REAL TALK!!! Thank you thank you thank you for addressing the H3 stuff honestly and not shrinking away from it. As a fan, I honestly appreciate that you don't associate with them. But I hear your point.

[@stephanie7142]

What is the point? H3 is equally liberal. There fans must be so fragile and strange.

[@stephanie7142]

They literally have the same morals and preach the same liberal policies.

[@sam00ra]

@@stephanie7142That “Twitch or Terrorist” segment Ethan did was wildly racist. “Terrorist” is pretty much a dogwhistle for any Muslim or Arab atp

[@aadyagaur4872]

@@stephanie7142 Did they call a war criminal a "moderate" and "good guy"?

[@primexotic9729]

​@@aadyagaur4872the context of Ethan's comment on Yoav is that compared to Bibi and the other cabinet members pushing to keep the war ongoing, Yoav was actively pushing back against that.. i.e. Having a more moderate take on the war

[@c4rdj]

Love Miles going full communist mode

[@Belliqua]

Oooo the H3 stuff is fascinating, thanks for being open about it.

[@FJaypewpew]

whats fascinating about it?

[@futuroid]

now more than ever you should DEFINITELY not go on H3

[@SoreBrain]

I don't think a h3 cross over ending particular well even if I think their left over audience needs an exit from the echo chamber. Ethan has been relativizing antisemitism by weaponizing it for months and it keeps getting worse.

[@jabawoky98]

Have you guys even tried watching any of H3's coverage? Or you just going off second hand information?

[@theyJC]

more talk about proletariat revolution PLS

[@lexyeast4896]

If you have plants, use neem oil in the soil for the fruit flies, and also clean your garbage disposal. That's usually the spots where their eggs live

[@zerocraic3966]

Keith calling it “face libre” someone isn’t keeping up w that babel sponsorship😂

[@whatevenarenames4696]

genuinely on of my fav eps in a while , i like hearing them address a lot of this shit, it’s all real and it’s really intresting seeing their perspectives.

[@Namite0001]

3:20 Miles thank you for not besmirching Waluigi's name

[@a1yssaa]

PLZ GO ON H3 ethan isnt as bad as people make him seem. you his definitley would agree on most political topics. btw zack he is a big supporter of palistine while simultaneously supporting jews bc of the amount of antisemitism being thrown at him i think going on h3 would change yalls mind ,

[@jdavisjohnson3380]

Thank you for this podcast, and for being on the right side of history. Definitely an anchor for me in these past few weeks. I am shocked at the negative comments, I hope they balance out.

[@ceg4609]

those commenters are apart of an organized effort that tries to get ahead of any anti-trump messaging from the viewers. it's a tactic to squash dissent before it happens. it's meant to intimidate. it'll balance out once real viewers and fans have a chance to watch and comment. they do their absolute best to seem like a monolith, and they just aren't. ❤

[@RunRiotProd]

your guy's comments about Ethan 100% proof that you guys HAVE NEVER actually watched any H3 content yourself you're just repeating the drama that is based on lies and misrepresentations. very disappointing.

[@natashastanislas8233]

I get the criticisms against not reaching across the aisle, but ultimately more than half of Americans eligible to vote did not. And is it honest to have a conversation with someone committed to misunderstanding you? Or committed to opposing you?

[@satanicwendigo666]

Only go on H3 if you're going to confront his wildly hateful views.

[@lizardlady69]

what views?

[@stephanie7142]

On what? Taking the incredibly complicated issue of Palistine/Israel away what does he, as a liberal democrat hate wildly?

[@sashagordon1196]

Yes and come with quotes and clips. Don’t let him back away from what he’s said about Islam and Palestinians

[@bobbobelito1632]

@@lizardlady69 That Yuov Gallant is a great guy, a moderating voice and that it was a shame that this guy, who now got an arrest warrant, was fired. They didnt even understand why he was fired. They called out pro-palestine avocates as anti-semites, h3h3 has claimed to represent all jews on multiple occasions, wanting to get any pro-palestinian voice banned off of twitch. Hila thinks that palestinians are actively trained to hate israelis from 2 years of age. Ethan made fun of Aron Bushnell. He is pretty disgusting, anyone going against Israel he call a terrorist, just look at the shit he did against Hasan.

[@Beenis-guy]

​@@bobbobelito1632 I really think you need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Even in your own comment "They called out pro-palestine avocates as anti-semites", just because someone supports a cause that is right doesn't mean they should be shielded from criticism. If Ethan feels as a jewish man there is festering antisemitism within the movement he definitely has the right to talk about it (personally its not my fav content but whatevs). A really good example of where this can lead is in 1942 after the Japanese had attacked America, Americans began getting so vitriolic towards the Japanese that they had begun creating internment camps for innocent Americans who's family was from japan. Even though I'm sure you would believe that Japan siding with the Nazi's was awful at this time, would you would still have some criticisms for America holding these camps? If Ethan feels that the sentiment of prominent voices in the space are threatening and dog whistling hatred then there's no reason why he cant speak on it. (Also AB streams on twitch advocating for Palestinian's quite often so kinda weird hes trying to de platform all voices in the space if his own employees is streaming in the space as well) As for Yuov he has since apologized and said he wasn't as informed on his as he thought, im not sure what more a single person could ask for than him saying you know what i made a mistake fuck that guy.

[@teamaina]

Same team. Thank you, guys.

[@Uh__So__what__now]

We all do live our own bubbles but comedy is always needed 😊. It's good to remember that whatever we believe we have more in common than what separates us

[@oceanskater227]

I feel like many people, not just older adults, don't realize or know how to differentiate truth from false when on the internet which is very scary. I think that also doesn't help all the misinformation that has been going around and people feel like because they are "anonymous" online they can bully and be more aggressive ...

[@Samlevvvy]

As a long time viewer, I found the platforming conversation about Ethan Klein really disappointing. It is no longer 2015. The platforming debate is entirely nonsensical in 2024 since liberals are now the minority in the country and even in the media space. If we continue to not engage with any controversial people or ideas, we are just ceding ground to let the right wing podcasters swoop up that audience. Which is exactly what happened in the last ten years.

[@jonathanli5644]

Can you guys point us to what hateful things he has said regarding palestinians? Or are you spewing nonsense you read from a headline? Please enlighten us

[@anakh222]

rainie if you see this i just want you to know that i just binge-listened to your podcast 'Answers to the Universe' and it genuinely made me tear up (which is extremely rare for me!). anyway it was amazingly produced and written and i loved the format.

[@Samantika1983]

Omg, I knew about the try guys but never really looked too closely. I am a former H3 fan and it bothers me to realise I wasted time watching Ethan’s shitty humour when I could have been watching and supporting other funnier, more well-rounded and empathetic content creators.

[@stephanie7142]

Im a current fan of both. I’m a little annoyed at how smug they came across here.

[@Samantika1983]

@ smug? Have you seen Ethan?

[@The-Doctor6969]

​@@stephanie7142damn you love sucking off Ethan klein in these comments

[@28harjot]

boycotting going on Ethan Klein tells me you haven’t watched his videos. his views are NOT EXTREME. him believing Isreal should exist doesn’t mean he believes Palestine shouldn’t. he wants a 2 state solution and not just peace but peace and justice. Hasan and Ethan’s podcast showed how much he truly cared for what was happening in Palestine. you could see he was hurting. he is a parent and any parent seeing a child being carried out of rubble would make them cry. what i saw was Ethan begging Hasan to control his chat screaming antisemitic comments at him and his family.

[@stephanie7142]

It’s unfortunate that they think Ethan is against them. They have nearly identical political views.

[@johnwinchester6934]

Literally, he is way farther to left of the democrats (even on this issue). Oh, and 97% of Americans.... but these dorks think he is abhorrent.

[@RapidObsessor]

this comment section is deranged. we don't need to engage neo nazis and bring them EVEN MORE into mainstream conversation, we need to invest in our own political environment. this podcast needs to be more political, the whole channel needs to do more political content.

[@jdavisjohnson3380]

Agreed. I’m shocked about the negative comments on here already.

[@jesorinsekwa4054]

They won the majority, they are the mainstream conversation at this point.

[@ceg4609]

@@jesorinsekwa4054 of the electorate and not all people. duh.

[@marym5852]

Not everything needs to be political. If I wanted political id go watch/listen to something else. However I want an escape like many other people and think some people need to keep their things not about politics bc we all need an escape no matter what our beliefs are

[@RapidObsessor]

@@marym5852 the most privileged bs i've ever heard. some of us don't have the luxury of staying out of politics. but sure, bury your head in the sand with the dnc while neo nazis continue to burn the world around us.

[@Decibel00288]

Can't name a single "wildly hateful" thing Ethan actually said about Palestinians. Hilarious. This is what happens when you get all of your information from clips, TikTok, and from a favorite talking head. You haven't listened to a single actual point Ethan made and EVEN IF HE DID say anything close to what you say he did, challenge him on it then instead of hiding from it and pretending you're levitating above everyone and are "too good" for it. Ethan Klein is too extreme? Lmfao.

[@addisonmay23]

"dont show cool clothes to closeted dorks" 😂😂😂😂😂Miles' complete lack of willingness to give Zuck's stylist props is so hilarious

[@samanthahuszar5076]

I think you guys need to get off Twitter and actually watch the H3 podcast. What you are saying about him isn’t accurate at all. I have been watching him for years and though he can say outlandish things, he always wants the best for everyone. And I think an important point to make is that though his workers (Olivia, Dan, etc.) are there to do their job, you can clearly see that ethan is always checking with them after he says something to make sure he didn’t come off wrong. He’s always willing to learn, be flexible, and change. I think ethan gets such a bad rep on other platforms because people clip and isolate moments to make it look like something else. He’s always confronting challenging topics, and in doing that he’s always going to get people that don’t like everything he has to say. But his presence on KZbin is refreshing, because he truly doesn’t care about anything but his family and the truth. H3 fan for life, call me when you ACTUALLY WATCH HIS PODCAST

[@veronicagerace7049]

Miles' advice is super timely in my life! We've been dealing with flies for weeks, and I also thought they were fruit flies. Then I thought they were drain flies. Now I know they are a regionally specific pest called PHORID flies, and they are coming from our local mushroom farms!! They're refusing to die because it won't get cold enough outside despite being late November! I might as well buy stock in Zevo for how many light trap refills we're using 😭 but I've seen the recommendation for spraying rubbing alcohol and I may need to try!

[@__mika84]

Looks like the h3 subreddit got ahold of this video lmao

[@stephanie7142]

It’s crazy that people think h3 and try guys are different

[@sam00ra]

@@stephanie7142did the Try Guys make fun of Aaron Bushnell?

[@__mika84]

@@stephanie7142huh?

[@Lkjgd]

@@stephanie7142even crazier to think they aren’t🤨🤨

[@myplaylists6310]

There’s a large audience crossover I watch every try pod/try guys video and every h3 podcast

[@TheNuclearbullet]

I would suggest not collaborating with H3. I say this as a fallen H3 fan, but putting aside all the stuff with Ethans takes or views. He is actively trying to deplatform people simply for being critical of him. His Instagram story reacting to y'all's mention was immediately followed by a screenshot of him bragging that he reported all of the videos of someone critical of him to his yt team, and one getting taken down. He did this with the line "I did a seance with Susan Wojcickis ghost, she sends her regards".

[@SarahTheSassy71]

I'm glad you guys changed the title it's more fitting now

[@fmoran-it5rr]

H3 is a career ender

[@myplaylists6310]

Says someone without a relevant career

[@heywhatupitsash7389]

Gotta say this comment section is a wild ride haha from people talking about wound care to extremely different takes on Ethan Klein to Fruit Fly advice to highly motivated political disagreements. Meanwhile im listening to you all read awkward facebook flirting. Truly a indication of how much can coexist at the same time

[@bryleaalyssa]

trump was in his 20s when segregation ended

[@Dukedogdog]

He was 14 when Ruby Bridges went to school. Definitely not justifying his actions. What I'm saying is the past is not that far gone and many people his age still holds some wild concepts on what a human being is

[@bryleaalyssa]

@@DukedogdogI think it just shows that he saw roe v wade get passed and overturned in his lifetime and there are other vital issues that he watched be created and now has the power to overturn. it’s just a scary thought considering women’s rights, lgbtq+ rights and even things as simple as interracial marriage. just a thought

[@Dukedogdog]

@bryleaalyssa yeah... Something I think about a lot is "would I have seen these changes and felt so strongly that after this amount of time where we have seen no negativity for allowing black people to be people, would I act the same". Which seeing how we are falling backwards it upsets me how you could witness the change, have the money and resources to do someone and yet want to be an awful person. You'd assume that you'd feel good helping others not actively harming them

[@daisytg]

I cannot even begin to think about trying to explain AI to my elderly father when he had an anxiety attack earlier this week as I was on a call with him attempting to walk him through getting back to his text messages from the browser on his phone because he clicked on a link on a text message.

[@jacobstordahl186]

As someone from Minneapolis, I very much appreciate Mile's soup for my family joke

[@DDeess00llee]

New Guy Tries is the best thing, but the comments on social media platforms like instagram when CNN showed it the comments are horrednous. Even reporting the comments don't even do anything and if you do agrue back with the mindless cretins you get your comments deleted and your account restricted. The safe space you guys provide is very important right now.

[@bensterling2316]

Uh oh you criticized H3, prepare to end up on his insta stories calling you antisemitic lmao

[@stephanie7142]

Uh oh you’re not familiar with the show

[@tdaddy26]

Nah it's even worse, he wants to have them on so that he can gaslight them into believing that nothing he's said about Palestinians was that bad

[@EmeraldEyes3713]

@@tdaddy26what has he said about Palestinians?

[@TheOldGuest]

@@EmeraldEyes3713 He called one of their cities a "t-rist city", referred to one of them as "it", called someone who now has been issued an ICC arrest warrant for what they're doing against Palestinians a "moderating voice" whilst his wife called him "a good guy", and that's just off the top of my head

[@angelar2767]

34:50 In Mexico we call it “El Fase” or “Fase-buk” 🤣

[@Creepymusic782]

I definitely had a day that I was depressed about the results, but now I’m ready to fight back and prevent bs from happening

[@Miss.M.]

Thanks so much for whatever you can do to get us through this upcoming nightmare! I subscribe to 2nd Try and I can’t wait to escape into the new episodes this weekend and laugh! 💙

[@clairepatton3963]

Random thought, y'all should get covers of "advice that'll go for miles" and play one each podcast.

[@esasaid1627]

Please steer clear of H3 Podcast, or more specifically Ethan. He is hideously toxic, self absorbed and will go on an absolute rampage if you don't agree with everything he believes to be true. Save yourselves!

[@Patricia_3.14]

For the fruit flies, they can also be spawning in your drains (particularly if you live in an older space)-- so boil water and pour it down your drains to kill anything down there!

[@lisa-mariel4899]

Great convo. And you made an important, often overlooked point: it's important we actually talk *with* each other even when we don't agree, rather than just talking *about* each other. I get the fear of seeming to endorse, but it truly is dangerous to just never talk with "the other side"

[@stephanie7142]

I agree. And what bothers me about this is that they’re so concerned with speaking with H3 - who is equally liberal and shares the same worries as they do. Sure, there are some disagreements to be talked out. But it bothers me that they aren’t willing to talk to a guy whose views are so similar to their own because he’s controversial.

[@summerrgray]

Agreed with both of you! By not talking to him they’re giving into the imagine of him that’s been created, and to me that’s so much more dangerous than platforming “the other side.” Ethan is very liberal, and if we cease having these conversations within our own party we’re only heading for disaster. And people who’d get upset about platforming the other side live in a very black and white world that won’t progress. We need to talk more. Now, if they talk to him and still have differentiating opinions then that’s fine! But at least there was a conversation and an attempt to know somebody beyond subtweets and podcast clips.

[@CorkysGarage]

Keith just admit you have done 0 research on the conflict and get all your news and options from twitter. What hateful things has Ethan said that you claim he did? He constantly criticizes BN and wants a peaceful 2 state solution. You clearly have done nothing but let others sway the narrative of your own option. It’s honestly embarrassing. Oh and also KZbin members are not the same thing as a paid streaming service🤣 that was a wild statement. I think you guys could have a great conversation and find a lot of common ground. Who knows maybe even a friendship but you’ll never know if you follow others misinformation and propaganda. I really hope you give it a TRY. 🤣

[@ZombieGregor]

If you've been watching every episode and you don't see anything hateful... maybe you're hateful too. Something to think about.

[@dancemomsbc41]

Oh no now Ethan is going to go after the try guys 😭

[@mikromikro0]

Fruit flies can also come from drains. Sinks cause sometimes have buildup or food still stuck in it.

[@randomtx1]

Dont go on the H3 podcast. Hila called Yoav Gallant who has a warrant for his arrest for warcrimes a "good guy" and Ethan made fun of Aaron Bushnell for setting himself on fire to protest the genocide. Ethan has also attacked pro-palestinian content creators, college students and called Jewish Voices For Peace kapos, he also condemns the victims of the apartheid and genocide for the form they resist. He also denied the Nakba where 800.000 Palestinians were displaced during the inception of Israel. Truly not worth it.

[@lizardlady69]

She addressed this, apologized, and said her word choice wasn't great. She was referring to the fact that he was one of the only ones who wants the war to stop.

[@randomtx1]

@@lizardlady69 in her "apology" they double down in defending the war criminal. It's not a war, it's a GENOCIDE. Yoav Gallant is directly responsible for at least 43,972 death, including 17,492 children.

[@ThePietjandorie]

1. Ethan is in support of having Yoav Gallant be tried for War crimes. They were talking about Yoav being a moderating Voice compared to Netanyahu because Yoav wants to end their war on Gaza and Netanyahu doesn't, and that it was bad that Netanyahu fired him because of their disagreement on this issue. Even still, Ethan apologized for how they talked about him and at the time not knowing enough about him to condemn him at that time. He made a video about it on the Ethan Klein channel, you should watch it. 2. Ethan isn't in support of self-immolation and thinks the world is worth more with you in it. He wasn't a fan of Aaron lighing himself on fire as it ended up taking his own life and that's not something a mentally sound person does. He thinks that it is dangerous to glorify these type of actions as it can result in someone copying Aaron, which is something that tends to happen when someone taking their own life gets a lot of attention. The same thing happened with Kurt Cobain and 13 reasons why. He made bad jokes to illustrate his stance on the matter. 3. Ethan is on the offense when it concerns Hasan and his orbiters since Ethan beliefs their are spreading dangerous rhetoric. He disliked the way Hasan was favourably talking about H*mas since they are a terror organization that have killed a lot of people in Syria and also done a lot of other terrible things. Please be aware that Hasan is very biased when it concerns this organization and Hezbollah I would implore you to look up their crimes. Of course they are the counter offense to what is currently happening in Gaza but they are not random freedom fighters. Hezbollah has talked about wanting all the jews in the world to be in Israel since it would save them the effort for having to hunt them all down to end their lives. They make the deliberate distinction that they want to end all jews and with that they do mean all jews and not just z*onists. There is a direct quote of this 4. I don't remember Ethan ever making fun of college students or I don't know what you are referring to. 5. Ethan didn't compare Jewish Voice for Peace to Kapos he was making the argument that finding someone of a certain group to support something isn't a good argument to support something as well. Hasan filled it in as being the same as comparing JVFP to Kapos but Ethan literally said "I'm not saying that". I implore you to watch what is being said there again, in its entirety. Also, that stream Ethan is talking a lot from the general perspective of the Israeli citizens and how they view certain issues. He's not always arguing for things he himself agrees with but his mission that stream was to communicate how he thinks a 2 state solution is the most realistic and secure option atm. 6. Ethan has never denied the Nakba. You are not able to send me a link of Ethan saying that the Nakba didn't happen. I know what episode you're talking about cause he was talking about the precursor to the Nakba on the Moldy Lunchly episode. Ethan was just talking about what happened before the Nakba took place. Two things can be true at the same time. Jewish people got kicked out of their countries and they in return kicked Palestinians out of theirs. If you would ask Ethan is he was okay with he Nakba taking place he would tell you he wouldn't. Also, please talk to an actual historian if you can, they will tell you the same thing about Jewish people not being welcome in the middle east and how that helped to create the Nakba. Only because someone can understand that there are reasons for something happening doesn't mean that they automatically condone what is happening. You are filling in the space around what Ethan said to mean what you want him to say cause you dislike him. You are not honestly engaging with what he's actually saying. Also, please talk to a historian in real life if you are able. Things are nuanced even if they are also bad. Do not let emotions cloud the way you interpret someone.

[@ThePietjandorie]

@@randomtx1 Also, Ethan has called what is happening in Gaza a genocide multiple times.

[@randomtx1]

@@ThePietjandorie 1. There is no defense for Yoav Gallant unless your brain is fried from watching israeli news 24/7 2. Defending Ethan mocking someone's death and doing mental gymnastics 3. There is no such thing as perfect victims when people have no legal recourse or international support they will resist however they can. NITPICKING how people protest and how victims of APARTHEID and GENOCIDE RESIST the perpetrators. Hasan is absolutely correct in not agreeing with them in their domestic actions or fundamentalism but seeing them as resistance groups. He has hours and hours of content on the history of these groups and Ethan ignored it all. Ethan in his videos when talking about Hezbollah refused to talk the reason they exist which was Israel's INVASION of Lebanon. South Africa, Algeria, Rhodesia and so on all resisted in similar ways. They were also considered terrorists for being against those injustices. You are the one needing to read about history. I recommend the ISRAELI historian Illan Pape. 4. The fact that Ethan is centering a genocide on his feelings is the same shit "all lives matter" people did. He can scream he is pro-palestine all day, his actions show otherwise.

[@DarcyFBX]

it would be nice if you actually engaged with ethan/h3 on his actual takes on certain political things. It seems youre talking in bad faith, and youre making him out to be some crazy right winger when hes really not. He is as pro-palestine as an israeli can be, the guy cannot win and its sad. he constantly criticizes and shits on the israeli government and has actually donated to palestinian fundraisers. also super scummy to ignore him in private and air this out publicly, pretty much slandering him

[@ZombieGregor]

"as pro-palestine as an israeli can be" examine that statement. what does it mean to you?

[@DarcyFBX]

@@ZombieGregor hes pro palestine, he just doesnt want the state of israel to disappear which is totally fine.

[@Chloe-bu8vy]

i vote no H3 please 😭😭😭

[@karenesq419]

my conspiracy is elon destroyed twitter to mess with people's mass media & connection.

[@zerocraic3966]

Is it a conspiracy if it’s completely obvious and traceable? Billionaires controlling information streams is also why most people w financial literacy hate “philanthropy” from billionaires in the form of funding charities or universities. It’s filling a gap that should be publicly regulated and compromises the integrity of its policies. Information, fundamental rights like food/housing/education should be publicly funded and agreed upon. And that billionaires can buy these essential services INSTEAD of paying their fair share of say taxes to publicly run these utilities is very much intentional by design

[@ZoeAlonzo-kl5vv]

This is an amazing thing to open my phone to after a statistics test

[@jilliansorah9770]

I am so sick of watching KZbinrs püssyfoot around these big topics without actually saying anything useful. "He's said wildly hateful things about Palestinian supporters." Okay, WHAT has he said that you take issue with? If you're gonna talk about it, talk about it.

[@TheTfroggy912]

I have thought about how much trouble I can safely get in to. Strange how I can lose my job for a small offense but 26 felonies isn't a deal breaker for president.

[@angelicacoronado8201]

I’m with Keith and Zac. I’m watching the movie. lol

[@mangofiends]

Also, please look into other political options outside of the Democratic Party! I am a member of the PSL, but looked at the DSA and others because we KNOW the duopoly is dying, and we need a working class party for the working class people!

[@morganmiller8010]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but they've been selling rubbing alcohol with spray nozzles for a while. Lol