Professor X & Magneto's Not So Secret Romance - Cherik

[@alexander_avila]

You don't even know my frustration.

[@yunogasai90]

It's you! Oh boy

[@minamvs4615]

+your fave queer ...why u don't like hets? 😑

[@fallenangeltiger9244]

+AreTheyGay Your videos are awesome! I love the Stucky one the best. ^^

[@thehecticchannel8054]

Dude you're awesome

[@celestinebuendia]

AreTheyGay 👍🏻

[@MorganKaines]

Pft. I shipped them while they were still old. They bickered like an old married couple, lol, it was absolutely adorable!

[@thynguyen911]

And the two actors, Sir Ian and Sir Patrick, usually kiss each other on the lips whenever they meet haha my heart can't take the cuteness

[@sunaominkey]

MorganKaines Me too!

[@greenstarrysky9881]

I agree, They are so sweet together it makes me smile

[@mateletanelu5270]

That's what snape said

[@experiment8351]

Lol same

[@kit1063]

If one of them was a woman, it would be canon.

[@kit1063]

Unknown Unknown Critiquing society's biases is not mocking to heterosexuals.

[@iliveinaconstantstateoffea9634]

Achilles Pelides It didn't sound like that going by Theodora's "tone". But just think. If our cup of tea is this and not the stuff people usually put in movies, how do you not know that's their cup of tea? Oh well. I just don't think it's a bias, but whatever.

[@iliveinaconstantstateoffea9634]

Achilles Pelides Alright then. Well I suppose.

[@iliveinaconstantstateoffea9634]

Grace Gary But they'd have at least sneaked a kiss. Idk. But I for one prefer it this way. I think a show with homosexuality as the main issue kind of takes the fun in shipping. It should be natural and not forced.

[@xXtwiIightprincessXx]

Dizzee Kipling it's sad but probably true T-T

[@destinylewis1089]

The funniest thing ever is historically in theater and literature chess has always been a euphemism for sex

[@OneRandomLeo]

It goes over the heads of younger people but for the bit more mature guys... God I was snickering so hard when they played chess

[@julygirl9995]

@@OneRandomLeo not really, people who study about literature probably get the subtexts, irrespective of age.

[@erikw.s.5209]

The most intense Cherik moment for me was the super 100% heterosexual no homo bro handshake in Days of Future Past.

[@fckjellybeans521]

haha this from "are they gay"

[@elizabethcatlion7015]

lmao yeasss

[@loisaf0112]

Literally

[@LawlerNichole]

Cherik is also called Mutant Husbands

[@tobito2013]

Really? Wow. Now I'm imagining Superhusbands with Mutanthusbands as neighbors. Ugh, now I want a fic like that.

[@Felixia33]

+Obito Uchiha There's one. I think it's spiderpool too (you know the parents type of fic)

[@tobito2013]

+Felicigra G It's a Spiderpool. Awesome! It bringing all my ships together. :D Got any links? Is it in AO3?

[@cowboysunrae]

Just hit me up with a flashback of the murder husbands. Thank you

[@JayJay-ii8lw]

Ineffable Husbands Murder Husbands Mutant Husbands... ...yeah, shipping "Husbands" is my thing 😂

[@deerkitten6678]

when i watched first class with my mother, she even said how cute they are together and my mother has nothing to do with shipping or anything alike that, so yeah even non fans see they are a good ship

[@kevinlinkll9531]

She meant as friends

[@lizziegoodall7044]

+little lionman And you know that how?

[@kevinlinkll9531]

Lizzie Goodall because any other way wouldn't make sense

[@lizziegoodall7044]

+little lionman Why is that?

[@kevinlinkll9531]

+Lizzie Goodall I watch a lot of Marvel Vids and this was in my recommended and it won't go away

[@elizabethtrudgill8226]

I don't see Erik as being evil just lost. He suffered at the hands of the Germans during the war and he was alone, so when he met Charles who wanted to help him Erik didn't know how to accept it. He just seems lost and alone even though Charles is right there with him.

[@madisonw506]

Someone understands my thinking. No joke, that's exactly what I've been trying to convince my friends of. That sentence was weird.

[@Rensune]

elizabeth trudgill That's the tragedy of Most who do evil: it's out of Pain.

[@Soymaid]

+Rensure So true. People who do bad things can usually be either seen as evil or as someone in pain lashing out (but usually both). In fact, when people in fiction are just "evil" it generally makes no sense. Nobody is "just" evil. That's hard to even imagine. (I guess the closest argument is psychopaths, but even they have the excuse of it being a literal neurological disorder).

[@Rensune]

Soymaid Funny thing with Psychopaths, their morality is much closer to robots. Psychopaths can be great people as long as they have friends and family to serve as a moral compass For them.

[@huntress4400]

it also helps when the actors ship it too lol

[@ButterflyScarlet]

*Me 3 years ago:* Charles was right! *Me now, driving up to The Brotherhood in a bright pink Camaro and blowing bubblegum:* get in losers, we're fighting the government

[@Vivigreeny25]

This is even funnier is 2020

[@SakuraSerenity]

Their love is so tragic, why are my pairings always so tragic. *cries in a corner*

[@5am_nightmares]

I watched Apocalypse a few days ago and - AAAAAAAAARGH!! I was literally sitting in cinema with my best friend shouting at Erik and Charles and EVERYBODY. (There were just 5 other people in the room, luckily) It was a great movie, but for a Cherik shipper - jeez. AAAAAAAAAAAAAALL THE FEELS. And that after I knew this ship for like - 2 weeks? I get attached th ships waaay to easy...

[@uwu-rt3uv]

Same🌚

[@Kingfatmac]

WTF

[@loisaf0112]

The way erik changed sides not after flashbacks of raven… but of CHARLES. SCREAMING CRYING

[@snipergirl21]

Thank you for talking about the age-bias regarding ships. I do think that in this case, if it weren't for the younger versions of the characters, this ship would not exist.

[@AnzuBrief]

I shipped them from Xmen 2! Charles visiting Erik at prison, playing chess with him... they gave me chills!

[@ivorygoth8849]

Ian McKellen disagrees with you. He ships it, too, and even wanted a love scene between them in their movie.

[@maryrose8478]

I shipped them as an old couple but more in a romantic sense no smut. I know older people have sex but it's not something I want to fantasise about.

[@dafilmqueen556]

@@maryrose8478,I get you.If they are to have a romantic relationship,best to remain abstinent until they wed..

[@jeanbiIog]

they were shipped way before the movies 😅

[@emilyvince8504]

The way Erik and Charles’s minds were so easily compatible always reminds me of Scott Summer’s and Jean Grey’s psychic rapport.

[@gulpbiys5705]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWmZo6KqpbWIZ7M .

[@RedHyuuga]

The fun thing is that Ian (Erik) and Patrick (Charles) have a real bromance between them, making their interacting much more fun to watch, though I like both the older and younger portrayal of Erik and Charles.

[@kellybundy1000]

I'd love to read that fic you mentioned where Charles is having a hard time returning to the mansion and that's how Erik realizes the two have more in common than he thought.

[@peterquill2027]

Super Cherik op what’s it called

[@Soymaid]

3:15 If you replace every scene of "chess" with a scene of them in bed together, the movie makes more sense. Code = broken!

[@alchiron2867]

Well. Shakespeare used chess as a metaphor for sex so... Maybe it's not that far-fetched ;)

[@destinylewis1089]

Well as I said historically in literature and theatre chess has always been a euphemism for sex

[@indranigomes9874]

It’s down to the actors. Both Mcavoy and Fassbender and Mckellen and Stewart are really close friends.

[@ilphi08]

Funny how Charles and Erik got more chemistry than Logan+Jean, or Scott+Jean, or Bobby+Rogue, or Raven+Erik

[@p01104]

watched dark phoneix and the entire theatre (it was the premiere so the theatre was nearly full) literally screamed at the last five minutes (not joking hahahhahhaha) i nvr knew so many ppl shipped cherik

[@yeoreumlee03]

Do spoil, what happened in the last five minutes that made u scream?

[@juliamoriarty1918]

erik and charles play chess at a little cafe in paris while erik offers charles a home

[@jonathanouellette7050]

I saw Apocalypse this week and there was a flashback where I thought: " jesus, they LOVE eachother so much"

[@trinityfranklin8356]

Does this remind any Harry Potter fans of Dumbledore and Grindlewald? Or is it just me?

[@captainjackeye8807]

Trinity Franklin me

[@oof-rr5nf]

Grindlewald was pure evil, though . . .

[@sunaominkey]

Trinity Franklin I so hope they make their romantic relationship a subplot of the Fantastic Beasts franchise ... But I believe we won't see it. -_-

[@thingsthatarelongdead]

Yesss!

[@thingsthatarelongdead]

Yes!

[@worldwidehandsome240]

I ship cherik but don't like the fix it fics. I think it compromises their personalities too much. I prefer the tragic love stories.

[@cowboysunrae]

I haven't really read any of them but I kind of thought that when she mentioned them in the video.

[@DieVorleserin-ok8zr]

Yeah, kinda ruins their dynamic, which is in my point of view best described by James McAvoy: "The only thing stronger than their bond is their opposite ideological beliefs." If you take this away, if you make them forcefully compromise,... it's not who they are.

[@danielr3254]

I've been waiting for this video. I love how Charles conforts Erik. They give a lot of feels ❤🙌

[@schattentaenzerin]

Who can watch Stewart and McKellen play chess in X2 and not ship them? I didn't need the younger, more attractive, version. Though they did a great job and boosted the shipping.

[@THElovemusicnerd]

You don't even understand how hard it is to find a fic of the x men that doesn't include Cherik... I mean I ship them but I like other couples too.

[@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634]

+supernelvs I know what you mean, they are my x-men OTP but sometimes you just want some gen or Emma Frost/Cyclops in my life.

[@THElovemusicnerd]

Lol I am so new to this shipping and fan fic thing that I had no idea people shipped them! But I am getting on board with it because they really do love each other :)

[@kyuminnie137]

+ShippersGuideToTheGalaxy Well Scott does seem to have a thing for telepaths

[@justevina]

I remember the old 90s animation of X-men and I think I "shipped" (I was a kid, hence the quotation marks) Xavier & Magneto back then already - one of the "huh" moments was around the 2nd season at the "jungle" part where they responded to a false distress signal, lost their powers temporarily, had to work together, etc I think I also "shipped" Rogue & Gambit a bit? not sure anymore, which just shows they didn't catch my interest much, not even as a kid lol

[@embersinthesnow6691]

I ship Cherik so much it hurts I wish we get to see more if ever Disney gives us X Men and Fassbender and McAvoy are still Magneto and Professor X

[@linafinnow6887]

There is no end to this ship, which is why it is so much fun. Thanks for another excellent analysis! I'm always really happy to get anyone else's take on them.

[@Beacuzz]

One of my favorite Xmen ships is Rouge and Gambit. The flirting, the powers complementing, and just the over all charisma!!! Every version that has the two of them ships them!

[@12classics39]

What makes this ship so compelling is how impossible it is. Not because of any surrounding opposition to their union, but because of who they are. They deeply love and respect and admire each other, but their philosophies and convictions are incompatible. To be together would mean one or both of them must change who they fundamentally are at their core. So for the sake of self-preservation, they must keep each other at arm’s length. But the feelings are always there.

[@kill3008]

word

[@AnzuBrief]

I shipped them when they were old... but after watching FC, that movie was a love story!

[@vanillasadboi]

I remember the first time I watched First Class. I was screaming into a pillow by the end of it and Cherik became my OTP.

[@xcrstfallenstrx]

I have always shipped this ship in a way. I know that sounds weird, but in my mind they were always in love, and I started reading XMen comics when I was around 10. Like it never occurred to me that they were just friends, the same way I knew barbie and ken were meant to be. As I got older obviously I realized that was probably not intended, but in my heart I felt like they were star-crossed lovers, two people kept apart by their ideals, and given Erik's history we can understand why he believes the things he does. He's already been persecuted once, and there are few better suited than Charles to truly understand him and his turmoil. My attachment to their relationship means I still have around 50 XMen comics in a box. These majillion years later, now that 'shipping' exists, its great for me to be able to share this ship with others. As for other ships, rogue/gambit is strong for me, as well as jean/logan over jean/scott (even though I absolutely do not adore wolverine as most people see him as a badass and to me he's just a grumpy old man, he's crotchety)

[@alidarideau3545]

LOL OMG I love love love it there "Beach divorce" oh my God I'm done

[@kitoriwei1604]

It's 2019 and I'm still watching this-

[@libragoddess98287]

It's 2021 and I'm still watching it

[@kitoriwei1604]

@@libragoddess98287 damn... cause same-

[@Idk-dc7hv]

It’s almost 2023 and I’m still watching it

[@AngieD247]

​@Idk-dc7hv it's 2024 and I am currently watching this 😅

[@yeoreumlee03]

Dis is 4years ago- Its 2021 and I'm watching this

[@09dindaayularasati65]

Superbat, Cherik, and Stony all exude the same energy. Change my mind.

[@christinman]

"word" honestly im always a sucker for good cherik fics

[@sherlockianfannibal3280]

Sherlockian friend, hello !

[@yeoreumlee03]

Same omg

[@johncrane6136]

I love Cherik :-D they are so good for each other. To me one of the best representations of the trust between them is the very end of Apocalypse, where Erik (who has just lost a child as well as found another) allows Charles to teach and protect his son. You'd think that after losing Nina, Erik would be hugely overprotective of Peter, but he trusts Charles enough for Peter to join his team. I love that underlayer of trust they have, when both of them have so many reasons to be distrustful.

[@oncerpotter3272]

Please do more Cherik. I need Cheirk. Writing at least 53 cherik fanifcs of these two. Please do more Cherik 😃😍😊😊

[@yeoreumlee03]

Posted yet? If so Idm reading XD

[@Kitty-om9il]

I think of these two as practically canon, some of their moments are just too adorable!~ my favorite X-man pairing would have to be Emma Frost and Cyclops, I have a soft spot for that ship.

[@kellybundy1000]

CHERIK FOREVER!!!

[@MrProteus616]

Love this ship, I've been reading xmen since the 90s and I have always supported this ship. And I just discovered this channel!!! 😀😀😀

[@Dj2anime]

How I picture Albus and Gellert from HP XD

[@meli3]

\*eric shoves banshee off the dish* “two distinct yet complimentary teaching styles” 😂😂

[@talasintahan]

you briefly showed my cherik playlist on 8tracks im honoured

[@yoonji-m2389]

Best Cherick fanfic (in my opinion)....Tuesday Plays the Piper (AO3)!! That fic is a masterpiece in it's own way!!!

[@daniellemhall1358]

I love how they are based on the ideology of Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X. Always spoke to me on a deep level.

[@triwenmichaelis3049]

Cherik has ruined me for good! #Otp

[@yeoreumlee03]

0:25 "We cant kiss in front of your son" HAHA

[@phoenixflarehart1672]

8:16 OMG! The Same Eyes in Different People is a great story. I love that fic.

[@awesometealover]

Thank you so much for this! I recently fell in love with this pairing and I love how you've explored their love in the different areas of canon, it's fascinating to see a ship in so many genres. I just have so many feelings about the tragedy of their ship and this video really gives me life :D

[@MayaMint]

I used to have some kind of aversion to romance featuring old people, specially if sexual themes were involved. But then, I watched Vicious, the series with Ian McKellen and Derek Jacobi. It was a fun and heartfelt story that made me like and cherish old people romances and appreciate them in a new light. I'd definetly recomend it :)

[@AvatarAchrel]

Question: have you listened to/read the "Winter of the banked fires"? I think that it may be my favourite fic in the Cherik fandom partly because the original author found a way to get them in both when their old and young. Also the podfic has a ton of people reading and is amazing to listen to.

[@irmihuhnchen5222]

yes to both! it is my favorite story with this pairing! i think it is an awesome story! what else do you recommend?

[@16tonw8]

I would ADORE a rec fic, or even a google doc.

[@a-a4665]

I know Xmen Apocalypse wasn't a better film than its predecessor. But I felt Singer touched upon brilliantly with the vibe going on between Charles and Erik, whilst Apocalypse seemingly was breaking them.

[@noelleslament]

in the 2011 movie Erik tells Charles he makes an adorbable lab rat.. ERIK ADMITTED HE LIKE CHARLES WHY I DID NOT NOTICE I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Dark666Raven]

Cherik!!! my shipp!!!!!!! I love them!!!

[@AshleyMystey]

I loved that you talked about youth bias in media and fiction and how romances about older people is hardly ever explored. Extremely evident gap in our collective world-view.

[@abihayes1294]

I've been watching X Men since I was three.... Erik and Charles have ALWAYS been my fav ship

[@Kairi-ou]

Amg yesssssssssssssssssss I'm currently going through the backlog of fics I haven't caught up on for this ship there's so much to read omg. //Also quietly points to the fact Charles purposely avoids saying anything about his childhood in FC while Raven blocks off Erik *Cough*

[@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634]

+Kairi-ou so many fics so little time. True true it's a very blink and you'll miss it moment for those not in the know. i know all the people I went with missed it or just attributed it the fact that continously hiding the existence of another human in your house could not have made for a fun childhood experience. Lol though it would make you excellent at hide and seek both literal and figurative.

[@Kairi-ou]

RIGHT? XD So many well written fics in this fandom too! And that's an interesting thought! There's a blink and you'll miss it reference to Charles' Step Father in one scene too (When we first see the bunker Alex trains in) so I find it interesting we never really get any more information about Charles' childhood in the other movies. Lmao In a house that big surely they could hide one or two people for a while XDDDDD

[@ZadnoleyaEdits]

Please please PLEASE do a rec list

[@wrenholder8436]

Yes but the older version would have been cute can you imagine Eric with Charles waddling in fancy restaurant for a date I mean come on

[@eddysailer5470]

this was a really good break down. Thank you for putting it together in the way that you did, with the pros, cons, examples from all verses, and the public eye stuff. Also im really glad that you pointed out the age bias stuff, because this is the first older person pairing ive ever been invested in, and i think thats interesting.

[@Marvel_Fan_Forever]

X-Men are the best and are only superheroes i know there are the best

[@lydiasensei4957]

Thank you Dark Phoenix movie for the *cue captain Holt* VINDICATION!!

[@tobito2013]

Oh my Lord, they're so cute! They even got the bickering married couple down perfectly! They are the perfect embodiment of "I want to grow old with you".

[@eluegl7006]

Holy shit i really need to read comics, i didn't know Charles has an abusive past, btw, awesome video!

[@ninaalencastro6857]

Your channel is soooo good

[@montselech]

I really need a video of S.G.G that focus on "Rickyl" (Rick/Daryl) from TWD... PLEASEEE~~~

[@Awall79]

Thank you for this! Cherik is my OTP and although I have other pairings I enjoy, these two are my tip top, cream of the crop. By the way, I love all your vids...even the ones about ships I don't ship.

[@isaiahjames3630]

The xmfc fic to read is "if you liked the book you'll hate the movie" on ao3. Just go read it i love it.

[@lmaolol9419]

Could you maybe please please make a video on Hartwin from Kingsman and/or 00Q from James Bond?

[@sevendayscili]

I always thought chess was an euphemism for something else... *cough* sex *cough*

[@rai4119]

I want more fics on acknowledging that Charles did kill for Erik, and was simultaneously betrayed by Erik in more than one way. First, breaking the promise of no killing. Taking him alive was honestly going to be important in getting humans to understand how the Cold War started and how it was mutants and humans combined that fucked things up, while it was humans and mutants combined that saved the day. Other was putting on the helmet. I feel like everyone understood that it severed their connection, not just telepathically, but their friendship too. I liked what was said here, how they shared somewhat of a mental-compatibility that formed a strong bond. (Hence, the comment from Erik about there being a bit of a hole in his life after separating from Charles) Then there was the last betrayal, which honestly, might've been worse. Killing Shaw while Erik was still mentally linked to him. Not only did he, in that moment, throw away Charles' mental connection-- their link/bond-- but he honestly threw away Charles himself. While telepathically linked, killing Shaw at that moment was like killing Charles simultaneously; and that didn't stop him from doing it. Because he took advantage of knowing that Charles wouldn't stop. (so I see what you were saying in the video about the manipulation)

[@marvelgirl7740]

word...word...WORD! I love this ship and HAVE before I knew what shipping WAS!!! Lol I started collecting in the late 80's and I always had a place in my heart for these guys.

[@xYamiAkatsukix]

Thank you for this video! It would be amazing if you did a video about cherik fics and fandom, I've noticed there is a lot of newcomers after xma and it would be great for them. I remember how scary and confusing the fandom was for me when I discovered it after dofp. I love cherik, it will forever be my otp and you described the ship beautifully, thank you for also including comics verse.

[@lyannastarkweather]

This video makes me so happy. This was the pairing that really pulled me into fanfiction back in 2011 and brought me onto Archive of Our Own for the first time. I literally started looking for fics immediately after leaving the theater on opening day. There was just so much of their relationship left to ponder on after the beach divorce.

[@randomecorner]

when you said ''say the word'' it reminded me of kim possible and then that reminded me of kimxshego

[@Gina-qn5cd]

Cherik shipper reporting!!! I like your analysis of the pairing, it is so well done and funny :3 I loved it!!!

[@sophiao.p.8338]

"Kinky, oh, so kinky. Telepathic sex is apparently da best sex" LMAO

[@alphahunterd]

I kinda laughed at the phrase "beach divorce". I know it's a serious thing but just taking it out of context it's a funny phrase.

[@fienevandijk7224]

The beach divorce! Omg I love this fandom

[@ahoy_m8y]

"Beach divorce" I- 💀

[@FlameRaven]

I like how Cherik is basically Stevetony from the comics (except that steve and tony remain best friends while erik and charles broke up)

[@princelotor3585]

I have never subscribed to a channel so fast in my life. Finally, a channel just about shipping!

[@Gatergirl79]

I wasn't but after watching X-Men Apocalypse and this, I'm certainly going to be checking it out.

[@tnmkhanh]

I love you

[@cjhs2006]

I Ship Cherik

[@alidarideau3545]

literally I did not know about that pairing until yesterday so late

[@SmolMuse]

I need so many ship recs for this ship OMG!!!! One of my otps for life

[@jaypao8203]

This is probably one of my favourite vids of yours so far and I'm so glad this channel has gotten more subs!

[@averylcobb6110]

Oh my god thank you, cherik is one of my top otps!!!!!!

[@FireflysFaith]

Can you do a video on Rogue and Gamibt? I love cherik but Rogue and gambit are also a main shipping pairing many know.

[@lolelolalol2]

Loved the video! And oh that korrasami picture in the end, ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL ME?!?

[@ClaireRousseau]

I love Cherik, but I often find it a bit too dark & traumatised for my liking (I like reading good recovery fic, but I often fluff where my faves just get to be happy). I've read SO MANY AUs in this fandom to avoid the beach divorce. Could you do a video on AUs and why people love/hate them? Whenever I want to explore a new ship, I always go to the ship tag Ao3 and filter for Alternate Universe - Modern Settng (English, complete, ranked by kudos). It's my favourite way to explore a fandom but I know to some people that would sound like The Worst. For a fandom with similar themes but a possibility for the pairing to reconcile, there's Les Mis where we as a fandom ignore that small matter of everyone dying, and make everything a modern AU all about politics, identity and arguing with closed friends about how to change the world. I like it because there seems to be more of a possibility for characters to actually work through their differences and be happy. Also I'm French and I'm a sucker for revolutionary imagery. Would love to see a Les Mis episode if you're so inclined. There's so much to pick apart, several relationships in the book itself that can easily be read as queer, plus an upcoming BBC miniseries next year.

[@MrTobi013]

i always figured erik and charles to being the "mother" and "father" of the x-men universe. XD they'd always have their adorable parental arguments....it's kinda hard not to ship them. after all, their "son" is onslaught. XD

[@mimozalys5096]

I've just discovered this ship and i love it! I'm so glad you did a video on it, I learned a lot, thank you!

[@TheMewSakura]

WORD! We'd love to see some recs!