Destroying Flat Earth Without Using Science - Part 4: The Conspiracy

It may seem like I've said all there is to say about the flat earth phenomenon, that dumbest hoax on the internet, but we haven't yet examined the conspiracy itself. What would have to be true for this scam to be pulled off? Rather incredibly, without making a single observation or knowing anything about science whatsoever, even just the story of the con itself falls apart quite laughably upon the slightest bit of scrutiny. Let's check it out.
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[@philwilson4167]

Imagine being one of those people who studied Physics for years through school, then University, then getting your masters. And you're super excited to start on your career as a physicist, and then first day on the job the boss calls you into their office and says "btw, all that stuff you learnt over the last 10 years or so...it's all a lie. We don't actually do any work, we just sit around playing video games all day and then tell people we've discovered something new." What a mindfuck that would be.

[@NRH635]

It's still a win-win. Think about it, you sit around playing video games all day and still get paid

[@philwilson4167]

@@NRH635 And I'd be totally fine with that 😂 can't help thinking that the people who trained for years to be physicists might be a little pissed though

[@NRH635]

@@philwilson4167 Can't blame u tho, if i wasted 15 years of my lifetime, pouring my blood, sweat, and tears for nothing, i'm gonna throw hands too

[@billy5031]

Well, in fact the daily life of a scientist look like what you described x) many mails, many coffee, you do little things, send many mails again, do one experiment, then right a paper, and so you make one little step further in science, and you continue the cycle. But yes, sciences couldn't go far if we couldn't start from what our ancestors discovered. Each generation need the previous one to teach them.

[@fverheus]

Or he calls you into the office and says : 'now put on the leather mask and start begging slave'.

[@rayg7647]

As an aerospace engineer, I can confirm the sex party ritual is required to obtain your degree.

[@petspro3453]

Lol

[@jpdemer5]

As a scientist, I can confirm that OUR sex party was way better than yours.

[@dontsubscribe6792]

@@jpdemer5 As a cleaner,all i can say is stop these sex party's there really gross to clean up.

[@smakmyass3276]

😂

[@mridhulml9238]

@@dontsubscribe6792 LMAO the best😂

[@bluephoenixguy1094]

Best tip I've found is that you can't convince someone out of being stupid. You can only lead them to do it themselves. Legit just ask them how things work. The moment they mention some BS... ask them how that works. Then how X interacts with Y. Genuine questions, not pointed. Basically, lead them to try and answer the questions you think will help them understand they're wrong. The moment they say "I don't know" Tell them you're actually really curious about it... then ask them if they can find the answer. You can't convince someone out of being stupid, but you can leave them with the questions that require answers that WILL convince them out of it... and the moment you come at it from a point of wanting THEM to explain it, you cease to be part of a group trying to mislead them. Never state "Hey... this wouldn't work". Just go "Hey... I noticed this. How would these two things work together?" People don't like cognitive dissonance, which is why they ignore the facts and avoid the people presenting those facts. If you make the dissonance come from within themselves, it'll eat them from inside out until they're done. It's how my mom got out of being a Jehovah's Witness. It's a pretty useful technique.

[@user-zm2vp6eu9d]

what is jehovah's witness Edit: after a few days i found out and it is basically a cult or smth

[@BurstFlare]

I never even considered this. I'll try to keep this in mind if I ever meet a Flat Earther.

[@smears6039]

I had this realization too when some relatives of mine got into cultish conspiracies, it takes immense patience and restraint which sadly I do not have though😭

[@Treyast]

The Socratic method, basically.

[@enigma9971]

Hmmm you think it'll work on socialists? 🤣

[@hydra70]

Aerospace engineer here. I got inducted to the conspiracy the first day of my first job. You wouldn't believe the ceremony. The drugs were insane and the human sacrifices were incredible! Let me tell you, working at Lockheed Martin is nothing like the job listings.

[@DanielS-zq2rr]

Flat earthers would probably take this comment seriously

[@ferrarisarecool7]

I work in construction and you're right, the initiation ceremony was insane. But nothing compared to when all of us in on it get together for the yearly billion person orgy! See you at the next one!

[@ItsMikeSandovalsYouTubeChannel]

exactly, i worked at Rockwell in the 80s and one time we were held against our will while creating the Space Shuttle Hoax which we were told was SSH-105

[@skidelrymar]

human sacrifice is ok but please, don't hurt the cats!

[@MODEST500]

​@@skidelrymar😂😂😂😂

[@onyren8194]

Im considered the stupidest amongst my friends but like they keep on saying "at least you're not a flat earther" and this makes me proud of myself

[@bannockwagon7011]

@@flmnewvideooutinmychannel3481 👈low iq troll

[@ivangordienko8081]

@@bannockwagon7011 bruh it's a joke

[@joshnabours9102]

@@flmnewvideooutinmychannel3481 I can't. The earth is too round to climb over.

[@AMINE-dd1qy]

You should be

[@edwinlegaspi407]

@Lilswiss Official it's a square

[@YoBoiHrcky]

ngl, that conspiracy where every scientist serves under one entity to lie about things makes for a really good fictional story

[@fawzanfawzi9993]

Flat Earthers can't differentiate between fiction and reality.

[@panner11]

Though in this case, it sounds like the writer got lazy and didn't come up with any motive as to why they serve under one entity.

[@toafloast1883]

@@panner11 because in their world the scientists are infinitely petty and do it just to spite them for believing such a thing in the first place

[@veronicawilliamson4526]

Yep

[@recmonika9751]

This sounds like a good idea for a scp artickle

[@aaronscholl]

I love how he gets more passive aggressive with each episode of this series… and with good reason!

[@candydandy1445]

hello, are you an dammed jud?

[@naturalphilosophy9649]

Help! The Flatards won't listen to any reason at all! They are genius level trolls!

[@PixalonGC]

​@@naturalphilosophy9649point and laugh at them!

[@davidfitnesstech]

Dave is even more so now.. and I love it ;-)

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024]

I hate when people are all goody goody towards morons, they're morons they don't deserve kindness, save some kindness for the people with some basic intelligence they never get any

[@alexanderbook372]

If the earth was flat, someone would have monetized it by now, cruises to the edge of the earth, flights over the ice wall to see a great view of space.

[@stylesrj]

Donald Trump would have set up a hotel on the edge and be bragging about it on social media. Even if it failed, he'd still blab about it.

[@spsmith6919]

​@@stylesrjYou mean *when* it failed?

[@orionSpacecraft]

nope they think there is a UN navy that patrols the ice wall or something

[@karelspinka3031]

The Capitalist's Law of Conspiracies: If no one is making money off of it, it doesn't exist.

[@The1QwertySky]

lol no way@@orionSpacecraft

[@Johny_Truant]

This wasn't a debunking of flat-earth. It was a merciless decimation. And it was beautiful.

[@alexanderinsubordinate1861]

Decimate comes from the Roman army practice of doing away with one in every ten men as a punishment. This means that decimate only destroys 10% of something, Dec literally translates as ten, So I find it annoying when people use the word decimate to describe a complete destruction of something.

[@snoote533]

@@alexanderinsubordinate1861 So, obliterated?

[@willowthesily672]

@@alexanderinsubordinate1861 🤓

[@alexanderinsubordinate1861]

@@snoote533 yes obliterated is better

[@snoote533]

@@alexanderinsubordinate1861 Nice

[@Luckyluckyluc]

The funniest thing for me is flath earthers typing "science is fake" on a device solely created through science LMAO

[@ericb3157]

oh, i've seen a flat-earther type "everything on the Internet is fake" on a website with "flat earth" in the name...talk about stupid hypocrisy!

[@Luckyluckyluc]

@[ ] but eho will pay the politicians these absurdly high amounts of money, and even more important, why would they pay them? This question still remains unanswered: What is the benefit of people believing the earth is round?

[@Luckyluckyluc]

@[ ] please answer my question..! warpholes could still remain hidden if the world was announced to be flat. Why would the government (devils) create such a story around it with the round earth, risking for it to be debunked... Wouldn't it be easier to admit the world was flat?

[@Luckyluckyluc]

@[ ] on a round earth, you can dig down too... It makes no difference wether the earth is flat or round; if the secret about the warpholes is discovered publically, the shape of the earth won't make a difference in searching for them... Again, there is no benefit in keeping the supposed lie of the round earth alive regarding the discovery of warpholes...

[@Luckyluckyluc]

@[ ] well, no one has ever found some since; surely - on a the flat earth - there would've been many discoveries already...

[@younggod5230]

man, the idea that there are more people in on the lie than "sheeple" who are being deceived made me laugh out loud so freaking hard. imagine if the whole earth was just a gigantic truman show with actors and liars abound, just to play a prank on a select few? its unimaginably funny

[@ericgolightly8450]

That's what some people think, because they are dangerously paranoid.

[@WHYISEVERYHANDLEALREADYTAKEN9]

These people be developing psychosis istg 😭

[@younggod5230]

@@WHYISEVERYHANDLEALREADYTAKEN9 I guess. In which case it isnt really funny anymore. Psychosis is an actual thing, as is extreme paranoia. I wonder what the overlap is between buying into conspiracy theories and clinical diagnosees. Though, I imagine getting diagnosed would only strengthen these peoples belief in the conspiracy theory. "Oh, of course the system tries to frame me as crazy!!!"

[@j.f.fisher5318]

As a former rightwinger, they worked really hard to teach us to ignore any bit of information that doesn't fit our worldview, whatever that is. So no amount of info will ever convince those who have accepted that mental paradigm and who've adopted flat earth theory. You could literally take them into space and they'd just be like "oh, personal sphere, I get it" and still believe the earth is flat.

[@barelyprotestant5365]

I always like to out-maneuver the conspiracy theorists. "I believe the earth is flat." "Oh, you're one of those people who believe the earth exists? You're really fine with giving in to what they want you to believe?"

[@stylesrj]

One guy did the water level thing so I said "Oh, look you think lakes exist? There's no such thing as a lake. That's what they want you to think of a large body of water not connected to the ocean..." Then they agreed with me and still talked about water, so I added "And now look, you think water exists!?" But they deleted their post before I could go into a talk about dihydrogen monoxide :D

[@Julmaa87]

@@stylesrj Ah yes... dihydrogen monoxide.. that pesky other name for water that fooled so many idiots.

[@daanbos5918]

Imagine believing in earth

[@mikekasich836]

"the earth is flat" "that's just what they WANT you to believe! do your research! they're trying to cover up the round earth from you man!"

[@deletodraw1944]

@@stylesrj see, they find one thing to believe, and as soon as they're being made fun of they cower out, they're not exactly the strongest mentally

[@JackSparrow-re4ql]

I walked off the edge of the earth the other day... luckily I was rescued by the giant turtle holding up the earth on its shell! Phew! Close call! 🐢🤟

[@mrdictionary728]

Disc world ftw

[@anordinaryfellow2832]

Ow! I saw that as well! I fell over the other day! But then I got caught and arrested...

[@AQ-101]

😂 😂

[@lanapowell]

This is obviously a fake scenario made up for likes. Everyone knows that it's the four giant elephants that stand on the turtle's back that catch people falling over the edge with their trunks and fling them back up onto the disc. 🙄🤦‍♂️

[@AQ-101]

@@lanapowell LOL

[@nickmcnally7808]

"Any god who is so weak that it can be hidden by its own creations is clearly not worth worshipping" is a RAW ass line

[@mattmerced1148]

Flat earthers saying that God is being hidden by the government are insulting God

[@jjthor_21]

​@@mattmerced1148god isn't real either way

[@elguitarTom]

I discovered recently that an acquaintance of mine is a flat earther. I found one thing he just kept avoiding answering me: I asked him why we haven't seen the edge of his pizza world yet? There is no footage of it. I mean surely there must be some rich flat earther that could have shot up a sattelite, hired a jet, a plane or a helicopter and flew to the end of the world and film / footage it?

[@warmachineuk]

Flat Earthers typically claim NASA blocks anyone going to Antarctica and the edge of the Earth. Who needs evidence or explanations when you have conspiracy? Conspiracy is the answer to everything.

[@CepheusMappy]

​@@tokeshedNarcissitic Personality Disorder.

[@agiar2000]

I really struggled as a physics undergrad and switched to business. Now I'm really disappointed, because if I'd managed to make it a few more years, I would've gotten invited to the sex orgy and gotten paid to lie for the Illuminati and getting to play video games my whole life! 😔

[@agiar2000]

@@nenmaster5218 Yes, I love Harris Bomber Guy. 😉👍

[@agiar2000]

@@devanishant ☹

[@agiar2000]

@@devanishant Aw, thank you very much! (Though, looks can be deceiving. 😉) Have a nice day! 😊

[@monkeyrobotsinc.9875]

hahahahaaaaaaaa

[@mrkc1831]

Ur joking right?nvm ofc you are

[@ParanormalEncyclopedia]

Part 5: Cats If the world were flat cats would have pushed everything off it millenia ago

[@Lucas_Lopes2408]

I mean. Its not wrong tho. They would definitely do that.

[@neiabaraja8040]

Indeed, cats would have ordered egyptians to push everything off the map.

[@thecno2008]

that's where egyptians come in

[@kazookie7036]

this quote is stolen from a common meme

[@DryPopeyesBiscuitNoBev]

I mean, he’s not necessarily wrong is he

[@odishoyounan]

Binge watching this playlist clearly shows Dave's change in tone towards flat-earthers from calmly explaining why the Earth is a globe to straight-up calling them idiots for believing the Earth is flat. I love it!

[@snirest]

This is actually more convincing than any science and definitely much more hilarious 😂

[@Kebab136]

I've met a flat earther irl, and oh boy what an exhausting conversation it was. It's not even like talking to a wall, it's like talking to super advanced AI that's sole purpose is to sound as confusing and irritating as possible. It was like a misaligned tile in your bathroom that's stuck there forever, hurting your eyes every time you look at it, was a person. If there's one person on the planet, whose beliefs and way of living is solid fucking titanium-hard immovable object that will NEVER change under any circumstances, i insist on believing that it was this particular dude. It's literally like meeting that annoying troll that's dedicated to talk to you with the sole purpose of annoying you by talking things that hurt your IQ, and it turns out that's how he is even in real life, and he just can't help it. It left me scarred. I once read a story of a flat earther so determined to prove the earth is flat, that he actually started to conduct some scientific experiments. But those experiments were simple and giving no results (according to him), so the madlad actually flew to antarctica, travelled to a north pole with some guide using gps and compass and some other stuff along the entire way. BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH so he just fucking went to a stratospheric flight, i don't remember correctly but there was something about sending a camera into space??? Well, i don't recall very well but the point is that in the end he saw earth's curvature with his own eyes, and returned to announce that they were all wrong. He stopped being flat earther, he saw the truth and just couldn't deny it any more... ...every other dude in his flat-group said that he's been bought by CIA and called him an agent of Illuminati... like for real, they expelled him from the fucking group after he showed them his material, which were pictures and videos of both him on Antarctica and him seeing space and earth from space. Dude spent over a year doing all these stuff and they said nah. I refused to believe it was real and that someone would go so far, but after i met that one dude, i started believing that this indeed happened. I mean, with all the shit going on in florida, this isn't so weird.

[@warmachineuk]

Imagine the flat Earther you met had a belief that he and tens of thousands like him must take over schoolboards and teach flat Earth, much like the evangelicals did in the '00s with Intelligent Design. What would dissuade him besides insufficient supporters to take over boards? Do not worry that he's irredeemably dense, just as long as no others join him.

[@Kebab136]

@@warmachineuk yeah... i'm glad he's the only one i've met. I mean, i met flat-trolls, but they just be trollin', and none of them was a flat earther. But i've noticed a pattern - this dude was also antivaxxer and talked shit about 5G soooo...

[@leondavis8267]

I've had the same experience with a good friend of mine,never again.

[@ferrarisarecool7]

That person you met, think I worked with him. I used to love his "proof" that he printed from the Internet to hand out to us at work. I especially liked how he explained that the government put the images of Mars, jupiter etc onto the end of my telescope. I wasn't aware that the flash worked for the government until he told me. The way he was able to see where I was pointing the scope and put exactly what I expected to see there was incredible. The way the flash was able to remove it when I looked to check nothing was on the lens as well was truly amazing. But more amazing, he's able to move at such speed without disturbing the air. Truly incredible the things the (UK) government keep a secret and don't use in say, a war!

[@Kebab136]

@@ferrarisarecool7 Yeah, they are so hard to talk to, the more you talk to them the further down the slope of weird arguments and weirder conspiracies you get. But, unless you also live in Poland i doubt you worked for that man... this dude was on the lowest possible position in my company, only maybe the janitor was lower, he was basically a production helper worker, his job was literally segregating the production waste, and until now i believed a flat earther can't have any higher role in any job possible, only due to their lack of cognitive skills and general stupidity. Like, how can you lead a company and not get bankrupt if you can't do basic math and logic? But now you just said that you worked FOR a flat earther and i can't believe that my faith in humanity could get lower but it just did... HOW IS HE HAVING A COMPANY????!?!?!?!?

[@rowanmurphy5239]

Also, lighthouse architects must be in on the conspiracy too, as they calculate the minimum amount of material that would be needed for their light to be seen at whatever distance is required based on the mathematics of the spherical Earth.

[@backalleycqc4790]

Exactly... The Lighthouse of Alexandria was said to be over 100 metres high when it was finished in 246BC. If we lived on a flat earth, they wouldn't have built it so high.

[@QDWhite]

And anyone who makes optics. Canon, Nikon, bushnell, Celestron, etc. It must be hard to design and fabricate lenses that make the horizon look like it drops away from the viewer in a set of binoculars.

[@light_asaii4858]

But that is science you cant use i against flat earther they didnt pass 10th grade

[@QDWhite]

@@quantumsneak1773 Done. The videos I found clearly show boats half below the horizon even when zoomed in. Still team #GlobeEarth

[@Gandhi_Physique]

@@quantumsneak1773 As another said already, that has been debunked. Eventually, no matter how awesome your camera is, the boat will disappear from the bottom up. Using that logic, I should be able to see every boat on the water with a variable zoom telescope.. but I can't. That is because on a ball, the ball will eventually block your view the farther something gets.

[@michaelmadrid]

I believe that flat-Earthers were put here for a very serious reason. They give rational and intelligent people comic relief in a tedious world. They are as important as Abbott & Costello, Beavis & Butthead and Marjorie Taylor Green & Lauren Boebert. They give us all someone willfully ignorant that we can point and laugh at without feeling guilty.

[@warmachineuk]

I'd prefer actual comedians as they won't try to burn down cell towers or attack seats of government.

[@danijelovskikanal7017]

They are here for firearm practice on moving targets.

[@TheRealWattLife]

Well you can't prove then wrong tho

[@epicofatrahasis3775]

​@@TheRealWattLife Reality proves them wrong. They're a bunch of science illiterates suffering from Dunning Kruger.

[@kuwandak]

They are not funny at all.

[@TV-qf1rh]

Absolute genius, with all the incontrovertible evidence my biggest regret is that I missed the sex party indoctrination in the second year of my physics degree, damn 😂.

[@danraskin9943]

I love the fact that according to their logic Trump was in on the conspiracy and he managed to not tell anyone for 5 years

[@anevilghost670]

I find it amazing that a Flat Earther would side with any form of politics, considering how paranoid and anti-government they are.

[@petergaskin1811]

@@anevilghost670 The problem is that Trump, the arch adulterer, managed to persuade that many people to vote for him including the Religious Right. He had the knack, I think, of making people feel that they had been forgotten by everyone except him. Same goes for the Flat Earth gurus. They tell people that they've been forgotten. Then they tell them that they've been brainwashed. Then they're ripe for FE brainwashing.

[@metademetra]

I think if the Earth were really flat he would have released all the documents for it just because a Democrat told him he couldn't.

[@vr10293]

@@anevilghost670 since he's not a career politician, they see him as an "external hero".

[@Magnum-Farce]

"I find it amazing that a Flat Earther would side with..." They really do do what they are told. The payoff they get - feelings of belonging, superior intellect, "specialness"... all come from obedience whilst training how to tell themselves they are heroic rebels. They are completely self brainwashed. Imagine - they will tell you they KNOW that things don't fall, because gravity is a lie... And when you ask them how an object in a less dense medium "falls" in a specific direction because the density below it is higher than the density above it... At an amazing 9.8ms^2... When there's not a machine on earth that could detect the atmospheric density differential above and below a golf ball... And it's that simple to debunk. This is a system that helps you turn-off thinking and reality.

[@HDitzzDH]

It's just impossible to convince them, even if you flew them out into outer space and they saw the entire planet through the window of the rocket they would probably argue that the windows are curved like a fisheye lens.

[@liamfalvey5142]

And once they do their expedition to see the ice wall and they don’t find one they’re going to say the captain\pilot was paid off by the government

[@ericb3157]

some HAVE said that about airplane windows.

[@samueladitya1729]

well, send them out of spacecraft without any helmet...

[@19midnightsun87]

The problem is, even if a flat-earther went into space and acknowledged the truth finally, as soon as he came back down to Earth, the other flat-earthers would just say, he got brainwashed or bought into believing the Earth is a globe.

[@stagesixx]

You can’t take a FE to space, cuz there is no space. And even if you tied him down in the rocket, all the acceleration force, weightlessness and views out the window are fake, as is the red hot burning reentry.

[@stylesrj]

You know, I think there's one important question we should ask Flat Earthers whenever they bring up the conspiracy or ice walls and guards, etc. "What do they eat?" Because trying to figure out what they eat means you need to delve into the logistics of such an endeavour of getting food and supplies to those people.

[@stylesrj]

Of course, one Flat Earther did try to answer that question with "It's not a big job! They just use radar!" Because yeah, it's only a few hundred thousand miles to cover, right? And radar just makes the logistical nightmare worse because not only isn't radar magic, you now have to have installations dotted about the entire circumference, personnel to go out there and fix them and enough facilities to provide overlapping coverage. Then of course there's the logistics behind moving the personnel to those places, shipping the equipment as you can't have any radar down for too long as a gap could mean someone might sneak through... oh and trained operatives who can tell the difference between a ship and say a whale or wave or the ocean floor. Because I'm pretty sure they also mean sonar as well as radar. Then of course there's that thing where radar isn't magic... there's a reason why lifeboats have a big sheet of metal foil in their signalling kit; it's so they can show up on radar. So if someone were to sneak up to the edge, they could. Which means you'll still need armies of guards... which means it's starting to look like a very big job.

[@stylesrj]

Twentysided's article on the Illusive Island was very informative on just how much effort would be required to hide the construction of a single Arleigh-Burke Destroyer; not even a Battleship or a Carrier but a standard modern warship. And Flat Earthers believe there's entire secret fleets of warships no one is supposed to know about? Even if they're supposedly government entities building those ships, anyone could track the amount of supplies and cargo being sent out to the edge. Flat Earthers make no mention of the supposed huge fleets of cargo ships and aircraft needed. What are they (Flat Earthers) hiding from us, eh?

[@ZShogan]

@@stylesrj I must say, a video debunking the flat earth delusion is definitely the last place I expected anyone to mention Shamus Young's Mass Effect retrospective.

[@stylesrj]

@@ZShogan Heh yeah, I really did like his explanation on why things are very hard to keep secret.

[@badnewofficial]

I'm catholic and, like many of my peers, I do believe that Earth is not flat. Science and religion can be compatible. The pope said so himself. As for many who believe the Earth is flat, it's usually because they interpret the Bible literally and think that hiding this interpretation would hide God from the world. In practice, the Bible has many metaphorical texts and Genesis is one of them.

[@gustavohp3439]

Im a Christian(protestant), and the whole part "they are trying to hide God" is stupid, as Dave said, if God is so weak that can be hidden by its own creation, why should we worship him??

[@bmacthecat]

@@gustavohp3439also, what would they gain from hiding god. Wouldn’t he like… send them to hell the moment they die?

[@thunderspark1536]

​@@bmacthecatMaybe god is doing it himself to troll scientists by faking all their data and senses.

[@KestlerTV]

I’m Christian (Protestant) and God is the most knowledgeable being, he knows everything. So wouldn’t he make the something that would make sense, because science and religion should work together. He would make the Earth round, and the sun round and the perfect distance away etc. etc. so if he’s so knowledgeable he would be able to make something that works in religion and science. Sorry I yapped so much hope you got my point.

[@thunderspark1536]

@@KestlerTV Yeah, he wouldn't put in fake data and stuff to screw with us for no reason, same reason why evolution and other sciences can co-exist with religion. I think Dave also said that "A god who needs to tinker with evolution or make humans himself is weaker than a god who made the universe knowing humans would come about"

[@RealHyperHedgehog]

It’s amazing how this conspiracy “theory” falls apart with even the slightest amount of thought.

[@stylesrj]

Yeah but you're not supposed to do that. You're supposed to take them at their word because "Trust Me Bro" is the best source of information out there!

[@RealHyperHedgehog]

@@stylesrj Let’s not forget, we have to call all those globeys sheep.

[@petermcgill3405]

And people are still stubborn enough to buy it, even after watching this

[@bradysmith4245]

Sadly, I’ve recently come across even stupider conspiracy theories. If you can believe that.

[@RealHyperHedgehog]

@@bradysmith4245 That can’t be possible. What is it?

[@mysingingmonstersfan1023]

If the earth is flat, Why aren’t we constantly being attacked by slimes? Edit: To those that say mob spawning is off, Explain Mosquitoes,

[@bastion8320]

Lol true

[@mr.floofles3100]

If the earth is flat where did we get diamonds? In the 3 layers of dirt beneath us?

[@potaterjim]

@@mr.floofles3100 how come no one has dug a whole all the way to the elephant?

[@admiralack285]

@@mr.floofles3100 ik this has nothing to do with anything at all (and i dont belive in flat earth) but fun fact : on my old superflat world that i had like 5 years ago, i placed in small amounts of diamonds and lapis in the floor on the layer above bedrock to simulate a mine. i was also just lazy to make any sort of mine above the 3 layers of dirt so i just did that.

[@ohader9141]

/gamerule doMobSpawning false, that’s the only reason

[@Aminuteorso...]

Who would win? 1. Centuries of scientific research, that have proven extremely precise in guiding everything we do. 2. "That's what they want you to think"

[@derekarcher8495]

"Delusional narcissist with no skill set", absolute gold Dave! Keep up the great work.

[@MelFinehout]

I actually met a real life flat earther the other day. I'm a bartender and they were at my bar, as a customer. I laughed out loud, thinking it was a joke. Then, I saw that she was serious. I had to chill, she's a customer. But, I couldn't help myself and launched into so super obvious examples. We politely changed the subject. But, fucking wow. It was like seeing a bigfoot. These people actually exist. For real. In real life. It is actually as fascinating as it is sad.

[@yourecarsextendedwarrent3416]

your in on the conspiricy FLAT EARTHERS ARNT REAL

[@dkatomski]

Alcohol doesn’t help the brain.

[@MelFinehout]

@@dkatomski okay. Thanks for the contribution. It was very helpful.

[@rosealexander9007]

Just curious around what age was she?

[@jefferylittleton1005]

@@rosealexander9007 I'm an industrial electrician and I've met 3 in my field at 30 ,~40, and ~50 years old. It's tragic. This is what happens when you continue to defund education.

[@deadlypandaghost]

Yup I remember clearly my first day of physics 101 like it was yesterday. We were brought before the supreme overlords to swear allegiance. A few initially refused, but after their liquification and replacement everyone complied. Shortly after the head of the physics department walked out smoking a golden cigar. He lead our class through a massive series of tunnels that put the Cave of Wonders to shame. There was gold, jewels, statues, paintings piled higher than the eyes can see. And ooooo the women. The price was easy enough. We just had to invent new ways to lie about the shape of the planet. While we may have been dragged along at first, after that first night there were none more dedicated to the cause. Good times. Thanks for the reminder Comrade Dave. See yah on poker night.

[@stylesrj]

What? You got all that? All we had was a merry-go-round and a log flume... :(

[@tonyduncan9852]

Bravo.

[@loganmaximus2160]

"After their liquification" HAHAHAHAHA!

[@brandonm1708]

@@stylesrj all I got was a little demon named Jeremy as my only form of entertainment!

[@irishakita]

@@brandonm1708 ayo Jeremy don't mess around

[@Silberstern-bd9jx]

I‘m asexual and going to start studying physics in a few months. Please keep me out of the haunted mansion sex party and just fill me in on the conspiracy in a quick briefing, thank you very much.

[@stylesrj]

We'll arrange for the dead drop via the postal service... ...the conspiracy also uses them to send money to their people so it should be reliable. You did get paid, right?

[@SuperSimpForTheStars]

hiiii another asexual person (im ace-spec though but eh)

[@themidgarbadass2517]

Ur funny

[@EnigmaticStatic6]

Hey Dave..... as an Aviator I want to say thank you for what you've done for REALITY. I'm not aware who's reached out to you on the following matter but as a BLACK MAN I want to say, THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU EXPOSED JESSE FOR WHO/WHAT HE REALLY IS on that debate. He does not and I repeat DOES NOT speak for the black community impoverished, privileged or dead past present nor future and absolutely most definitely doesn't speak for Christians. Stay great bro. Peace and love ✊🏾

[@rhetoricalquestion6009]

Wondering who this "Jesse" person was ... found _"An Amusing "Discussion" With Jesse Lee Peterson."_ _That_ Jesse? His opening gambit was "racism has never been a problem in this country at all". That's some flat-earther-level madness right there.

[@davemitchell116]

I actually had one Flat Earther say to me, "If we really did land on the moon, why didn't Neil Armstrong bring back some green cheese?" Can't argue with logic like that!

[@raggedclawstarcraft6562]

yeah. the only they brought back was just a bunch of rocks... so lame.

[@zesty9815]

There just wasn't time. First you have to milk the moon cows, then you have to culture the milk, then you curdle it, then several more steps, then finally you have to mature the cheese. It all takes time, but they had less than a day.

[@raggedclawstarcraft6562]

@@zesty9815 no. It references the conspiracy theory or an internet joke that moon is made of cheese.

[@zesty9815]

@@raggedclawstarcraft6562 (Yeah, I know. But there's more than one way to get cheese from the moon. [joke])

[@nobody8thechicken186]

bruh

[@spikergames4259]

Dave has done it. He has debunked flat earth with the existence of flat-earthers.

[@Ballaratairportspotter]

Lol

[@rogiok7400]

Woah

[@Bundalaba]

The strongest argument is probably the fact this 'Secret Society' has the assets to pull this Titanic con but can't John Wick a few Flat Earther KZbinrs LOL

[@rentisme]

Oh my god, it's like Jordan Peterson and SJWs 🤣🤣🤣

[@gregmccormick21]

If it were flat, a 🐈 cat would have already pushed everything over the edge.

[@drewmur]

This is my favorite argument against Flat Earth, or any conspiracy theory. Once you start asking How and Why, the argument disintegrates. As you point out, there is just no way that SO many people were involved in this for SO long for no real gain.

[@prplt]

it's to hide God 😂

[@FlatEarthKiller]

Ask any flerfer any “why anything” and use their logic at their disposal against them.

[@RyanPortland420]

In highschool I read a book called 101 facts that prove the Earth is flat, it made a believer out of me. But you have brought me back to the side of the sane. Thank you.

[@peteconrad2077]

Well done. Being able to exit such a cult is a sure sign of intelligence and a rational mind.

[@RyanPortland420]

@@peteconrad2077 thanks man. Have a good rest of your week.

[@Krugis]

Glad for you! Do you happen to recall what parts of that book had you convinced? Not to criticize or insult, I'm just curious, as people joining then leaving flerf is fairly uncommon

[@jpdemer5]

"Dumbest hoax on the Internet" is one hell of an impressive achievement. There should be an international (you might say, "global") award for that.

[@kekkewezel4615]

Haha, I see what you did there

[@lolloblue9646]

Clever

[@Mr0901]

I mean... would it be international if most of it is in he USA? Altho it's stupidity does count for more than just one country

[@snewp_e2139]

@@Mr0901 im pretty sure every other country would agree that flat earth is one of the dumbest hoaxes on the internet, let alone the world

[@jpdemer5]

@@Mr0901 Sure - it's the World Series of Stupidity.

[@TheIrrelevantYT]

President: "Tadah, it was a prank! The world is actually flat!" Cabinet: "Sir, we spent quadrillions of dollars and you do a planet reveal?"

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@TheIrrelevant - if anyone was going to reveal the big conspiracy it would have been the orange man - lol!!! He'd be like "Please let me tell them, oh please, and afterwards can I go ride in the big truck?"

[@user-bl8pw6cn2d]

@@honeychurchgipsy6 orange man ?

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@@user-bl8pw6cn2d - yes - orange man who likes to ride in the big boy truck!! Did you not notice Trump's awful, orange, fake tan make up (you could see the line where he'd applied it), and did you not see him sitting in a truck going broom broom like a five year old?

[@user-bl8pw6cn2d]

@@honeychurchgipsy6 this never had anything to do with politics it was a joke this comment

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

@@user-bl8pw6cn2d - oh wow - and to think I never got that!!! What exactly about "orange man go broom broom in big truck" isn't funny, and makes you think I missed the joke? If you know anything about comedy you would understand that the original comment is funny precisely because it is based upon truth: we all know that a man like Trump would never have been able to keep a secret about the shape of the earth - that is the joke being made by the poster, TheIrrelevant. I took that idea and ran with it showing that I understand the joke. Perhaps, and this is just a thought, you are upset because little Donnie is getting the piss taken out of him!!

[@jokeexplainer6006]

It seems to me that one of the main reasons why flat earthers think the earth is flat is because they can’t wrap there head around the idea that you could walk around a sphere and not fall off whereas walking on a flat surface feels more intuitive. But can anyone tell me what their response is when they are asked why objects are pulled in a downward direction? Even if the earth earth was flat there would still need to be some explanation for why things are always pulled downwards. Do they believe that there is just a universal rule where up and down have defined absolute directions and everything falls downwards just….cos? They may not like gravity but their model can’t exist without some explanation of gravity either

[@warmachineuk]

Flat Earthers claim gravity as we know it is wrong and it's merely the result of relative density and buoyancy. Few make any attempt to explain how it acts towards Earth, rather than any other direction. None have written a formula describing the downward force. A few might also say the downward force is also electromagnetism.

[@The-one-and-only-Fruitcake]

I LOVE dave’s responses to the flat earthers in the comments. He’s basically just like “you’re wrong, and also stupid” and leaves no room for them to respond. It’s beautiful

[@ballisticnoodle806]

“Nobody spends that kind of money for literally no reason” NFT owners: hold my beer

[@liamblaauboer4098]

if this video was only one year newer man lmaooooo

[@liarwithagun]

NFTs are just a bubble. Or at least they started as a bubble. Maybe rich idiots will spend millions on them now because of the public perception of them being high dollar items like 'normal' art is.

[@BizVlogs]

@@liarwithagun Name one actual difference between “normal” art and NFTs. Is it just because one is digital and one is analog that makes the only difference?

[@anyanP]

With NFT there is a clear reason - profit. People think that they can profit from NFT, treating it like an investment, despite it being closer to a gambling or a pyramid scheme. Alternatively - laundering money and tax evasion.

[@anyanP]

@@BizVlogs NFT isn’t digital art. It’s a receipt for a digital art, treated like an investment. It’s a scam. Digital art existed just fine without this tech bro bullshit and digital artists have a perfectly reasonable ways to profit from their art without getting involved in a pyramid scheme with an energy cost of a small country.

[@SewerTapes]

Flat Earth Sex Party would be a pretty kick ass name for a band.

[@niclaswa5408]

Ninja Sex Party exists. That’s closest one I can think of.

[@niclaswa5408]

@vladimir putin is andrei panin jfk is jimmy carter Why do you ask for prof when you’re just gonna deny it anyway?

[@SewerTapes]

@vladimir putin is andrei panin jfk is jimmy carter Sunsets. Impossible on Flat Earth.

[@niclaswa5408]

@@SewerTapes I think it’s a spam-comment, since the user is a day old and it’s comment history shows duplicates of the same comment.

[@SewerTapes]

@@niclaswa5408 How did you check his comment history?

[@nohakoraii]

2:23 That GD demon face there, killed me laughing. I wasnt expecting ANYTHING related to any media I enjoy in this video.

[@levizaumpro16]

Same

[@user-lo5et1zt8j]

"Any God who is so weak that he can be hidden by his own creations is clearly not worth whorshiping". This is the greatest quote ever

[@holdyourbeak8644]

worshipping

[@kirara2516]

I still can't believe this needed to be explained to anyone older than 5 years.

[@pix_d20]

flat earthers should be legally eradicated

[@kirara2516]

@@pix_d20 more like re-educated

[@pix_d20]

@@kirara2516 no

[@kirara2516]

@@pix_d20 I don't believe mass killing is the answer.

[@rynzoku8662]

@@kirara2516 agreed

[@ManahManah77]

What's truly and ironically hilarious is that the possibility of Darth Sidious existing is greater than the possibility of the Earth being flat. After all, it did happen a long time ago in a galaxy far far away..

[@ajc-ff5cm]

My mind is blown!

[@Hannahbanana0205]

Lmao. Can't wait for the Artemis to take off. Bet these crazy people would say that it's CGI lmao. Everything is CGI for them when they can't believe it.

[@BlowingbytheOz]

😂😂😂

[@totmgsrockxd9900]

The possibility of Darth Sidious surviving his fall down the Death Star (which is by the way impossible no matter how good you are with midichlorians and life; his survival is just the work of Star Wars IX's pathetic and stupid writing) is greater than the possibility of the Earth being flat.

[@99999bomb]

Star Wars happened in andromeda

[@salthin]

The end of a legacy, and the start of a legend. Never stop calling out hoaxes and stupidity, Dave. It may not seem like it, but it works, and it matters.

[@numbertwo579]

The most unrealistic thing about flat earth is every government agreeing on something so stupid 😂

[@HeadbutKneecap]

The part about this conspiracy that really fucks with my head is the fact that it creates a paradox in itself. Because in order for the earth being flat to be a secret, literally at least half the population would have to know that the earth is flat and for some reason is hiding it from the less educated people

[@cjthenarhwalking1378]

exactly if more than 50% of the population is in on it it's not really a secret anymore

[@Gremriel]

I'd like to hear more about these sex parties. For scientific reasons, of course.

[@JewTube001]

come join the lemon party.

[@tonydagostino6158]

Seriously. I'm a geoscientist with advanced degrees. You'd think me and my classmates would've been high on the list. Somehow our invitations got lost and now it's too late

[@infinitivez]

Also, asking for a friend, where are these being held? Should make the perfect holiday gift!

[@justintempus7406]

I've been there. You get invited when you defend your Master's of Science (or higher) degree. Gotta tell you, sexism in the elites has many downsides. Total sausage party.

[@scottdavidson5670]

My PhD is in computer science, and they must have thought we couldn't handle it. Boo hoo.

[@cellospot]

Dave -- the whole reason I'm here is to find more simple ways to disprove flat earth to a friend, otherwise, I absolutely would not care and would move on with my life. So, as mentioned I have a friend who is a flat earther. I and so many others have tried talking to him about this belief, even trying to convince him that it's a waste of time and thought cells with folding laundry being vastly more important to invest oneself in. And when I asked him what there is to gain by lying to people en masse about the shape of the earth, he said that if "they" (he could not tell me who "they" were) could get people to believe in something so small as the shape of the earth being round, then it would be easier to make people believe in so many other things. He pointed out other things that have been legitimate lies by the government and those with power, to make his point that a ball earth is also a lie. Honestly, I can't talk to him anymore about this, because he's so entrenched in his ideas of conspiracy theories that even a simple test proving a round earth is, for him, easily disprovable using, you guessed it, words like 'perception' and 'electromagnetic waves', etc, not actual proof, and things that I guarantee he doesn't understand how they work. I don't know how to get people who believe in conspiracy theories see the light, that it's not as how they think things are. He's not the only one in my friend group to believe in flat earth, but he is the only vocal one, and the only one who wants others to believe as he does. (It's even to the point that our priest, yes, shoot me, I'm a Christian, told me that if he starts talking about flat earth again, I need to tell him that he's sinning and he needs to go to confession before he can commune again.)

[@HeadChoper9]

Unfortunately you can't convince everyone. He will ONLY change his beliefs when he wants to. He probably not dumb just self centred or scared about how if he is not the centre of the universe then his whole meaning of life falls apart. If you want to help him start at the root of the problem. Slowly make him more confident about the idea of not everything having to be about him or be black and white, good against evil . Or don't waste your time. Your choice.

[@juliankirby9880]

“Why be mad at a secret shadow government? The regular government sucks. Be mad at them.” - Milo, the Mini Minuteman.

[@stylesrj]

But isn't that what the shadow government wants you to do? :D

[@naota3k]

Let's be honest. 1.1K people disliked this because they can't handle the truth.

[@fireadamhun7662]

Or maybe just Australians liking it

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

@Yobama We're not. I'm simply a figment of your imagination.

[@roguegargoyle914]

So sad that the dislike counter has gone now. It was an easy way to gauge how many idiotic saps that believe nonsense like Flat Earth were still out there.

[@danielloader3351]

@@roguegargoyle914 exactly

[@shaikheena4321]

Movie “A FEW GOOD MEN” - You can’t handle the truth, son.

[@ahmadtarek7763]

As an aerospace engineering student, I reeeeeeeally hope the sex parties thing is real, but the only thing that's going to fuck me is fluid mechanics and thermodynamics.

[@nivedvi2716]

Yup been there, make sure to get your lube, it aint gonna be nice

[@kdawn.stubblefield4584]

Lol

[@darrylgonzalez5251]

Well technically that's true, both fluid dynamics and thermodynamics ARE involved, so.......

[@pkjoesd]

It was vector dynamics for me.

[@Danger_N00dle]

That's exactly what the Sex party is about Fluid mechanics and Thermodynamics

[@BEE-oz7yd]

8:48 that little jab against Star Wars the rise of Skywalker in a debunking flat Earth video was unexpected, but appreciated!

[@rogertulk8607]

This struck a chord with me. About 15 years ago when I was working as a network technician for the Federal Government I was in a small office with four other men. One day our cleaning lady came in. She was always on about nutrition and particularly things like trans fats. After she had made a declaration one day I countered with information I got from my daughter who has a master's degree in human nutrition and nutraceuticals. The cleaning lady's reply? " Oh, she's too educated; she'd never understand!" Our jaws just about hit the floor! That sums up conspiracy theories for me.

[@mattmerced1148]

Keep the gurus away from educated people, it would taint their perfectly good minds.

[@Aresenal1739]

@@mattmerced1148 their mentality is “you think you’re better than me”

[@Battleship009]

I think Shakespeare, said it the best. "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."

[@blueskies99]

@@TuriGamer *effect, btw

[@clugokillscluco]

You mean Francis Bacon?

[@seankim2916]

Wait was t this some Greek philosopher?

[@Battleship009]

@@seankim2916 Nope, English playwriter of the Elizabethan Era, with the actual line being. "The fool doth think he is wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."

[@eatthisvr6]

he was describing the dunning kruger effect hundreds of years before it was called that

[@taylorshelton3267]

If this doesn't convince people that the earth isn't flat then nothing will. Even the ancient Greeks knew that the earth was spherical in shape.

[@lucasharvey8990]

@@rlupara They knew because of critical thinking. Watch the first episode of this miniseries which focuses on the moon, for example.

[@lucasharvey8990]

@@rlupara You can also type the question into the search engine. grade8 science. com/ 3-1-1-how-did-the-ancient-greeks-learn-that-earth-is-round/ Okay so KZbin is auto-deleting comments that have links in them since spam bots are getting out of control, so I put a couple spaces in there to break it up now. Just copy-paste and get rid of those and it's fine.

[@lucasharvey8990]

@@rlupara I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be experimenting. Looks like a good site (though I wonder how it hasn't been autodeleted for containing a link). If I'm being totally honest about it, there's a vast amount of stuff that I can't scientifically prove on either side of this debate, so I have to look at what others have to say. I consider myself a tabula rosa person, or open to any new idea regardless of how crazy it may sound. And... the round earthers just have so much more compelling evidence, and there aren't any obvious holes in the logic. When I accept the round earth way of thinking, each phenomena of nature can be explained in detail using both common sense and specific math. When I accept the flat earth way of thinking, then suddenly the moon and stars make no sense, the southern hemisphere doesn't exist, and the entire world is engulfed in a conspiracy that spans thousands of years. I'm a history nut, and I can't honestly believe that. I can't honestly believe that they've got millions of people - including all world leaders - in their pocket either. So in short, even though I'm open to new ideas, the evidence of the flat earth community just isn't enough for me. The community as a whole strikes me weirdly as well - I'm atheist, since I don't believe that God is what created us and even if he did I see no reason for them to care about us in the slightest. As you might imagine, I don't get along with a good deal of flat earthers because of that. They come off as the type of people that instead of listening first then responding second, they listen first then regurgitate second. It doesn't strike me as very bright, so I take what they say with some salt just on principle now.

[@Ozzey23]

@@rlupara By looking at shadows that can only exist on a curved surface

[@sasukeuchiha961]

@@rlupara thru logic.

[@thetherrannative]

You could fly a flat-earther to space and they would still say the windows are screens.

[@Vienic2]

just throw them out of the rocket

[@sevenoxia7199]

@@Vienic2 then they’d say that they’re stuck in some enormous room with wallpaper that looks so real that it basically is real.

[@Vienic2]

@@sevenoxia7199 nah they would say that you drugged them and that they are hallucinating, or that the earth is flat but it appears round or some other b.s lol

[@timg2727]

My favorite is "it just looks that way because light is curved."

[@agent475816]

They would vomit excuses like the windows are fish eye lenses too.

[@dougbelford4565]

This is my fa favorite flat earth debunk. Although, I love all the science-based debunks and find them to be fun & educational, ultimately they aren’t required to debunk flat earth. All you need is 2 words: “common sense” Very nicely done professor Dave!

[@GameDevNerd]

I actually went to Antarctica. We evaded military patrols and reptilian royal guardsmen for weeks, until at last we came up The Wall ... a wall so big it would dwarf even Donald Trump's wildest dreams. With climbing spikes and ropes, we climbed the wall. The 100km climb took us days, and we finally reached the top. When we made it to the top, we found a series of mostly abandoned ancient alien fortresses and buildings. The top of the wall was about 50km wide, and it took us some time to reach the far side and look down at what lay beyond. What we saw was an entire _other_ world beyond! Dense forests, frozen mountains and snowy tundra, even deserts off in the distance. We used our telescope to search the distant lands for signs of life. We saw native people living there, as well as monsters and creatures beyond your wildest imagining! We even saw what we could only describe as the White Walkers, leading armies across the lands. They looked up at us with cold, blue eyes and I know they saw us. We were chilled to the bone with terror, so we ran back to the opposite edge of the wall. There we assembled our hang gliders, and we leapt from the top of the wall. We glided back to southern Chíle, landing at around 5pm, and went and enjoyed some tacos. This is the first time I've ever spoken about this expedition. The world isn't flat or round, it's infinite and the further you go the more Earth spawns! 😉

[@MrQuaiven]

The most unbelievable part of your comment is your claim of climbing 100km in "days".

[@stylesrj]

Did you find where they were hiding God by any chance when you were up there? I heard some folks were looking for him and the wall was being used to hide him. If you didn't, that's fine. I'll probably mount an expedition myself later to check.

[@flookd5516]

@@MrQuaiven It’s obvious how 😊

[@Krugis]

Don't write your fanfics here, publish them instead!

[@Antis14CZ]

@@Krugis Right? That's blockbuster movie material right there!

[@criticato8916]

From what I know about politics, it would take 5 minutes tops for some leader of a country to blow it open to harm some other world leader's reputation.

[@moggpiano8043]

Absolutely. And why would fierce enemies like Russia, USA, China agree to be in cohorts in the first place?

[@atheed9426]

Trump would of messed this one up hard.

[@noelwym123]

@@atheed9426 That's one way to know that intelligent aliens have never visited. If they had, Trump would be yelling from the rooftops about how he cut the greatest, biggest deal with them.

[@wallywallendo]

Yeah totally, the taliban would be screeching about it by now

[@RM-jq5vi]

The president of the US would have to be in on it so I imagine the second trump was told the earth was flat he’d start tweeting.

[@Kyle_A.Delgado]

Hi Dave. I’m 27 years old who’s a vehicle mechanic and never been to college. 5:03 Is there really a sex party induction? If so, I must be missing out… 😅😂🤣Kidding, I’m kidding! But seriously, it doesn’t take a genius(no offense) to know that the Earth is and always has been a sphere with Antarctica at the South Pole, not some dillusional, disproven disc surrounded by a supposed continental ice wall, with a cult of slackjaws that need a re-education.

[@smokescreen100]

Thanks for this. Used your videos as proof against a flat earther who then refused to watch it, had me spoon feed them the info and then went silent. It is a good day when i can finally shut up a flat earther

[@satrred5308]

Lol good for you

[@chrisenmarch6050]

When I was training as a navigator in the Royal Navy.. everyday I was expecting the knock on the door and being told that the lines of longitude didn’t converge south of the equator..and I would need to use these secret charts that showed the true distances and the huge ice wall.. oh and special compass to go east or west and indeed south in Antarctica ! They never came .. and guess what the charts I used around the Falklands were a perfect fit for a globe earth ! Can any flat earther that has never navigated a ship around Antarctica .. explain that one to me ? I’m waiting

[@SunlessSage]

They can certainly try. I don't think they'll finish the journey.

[@Person-tz1tk]

They will sink before that happens.

[@matiasd.c9949]

They say plate tectonics and shifting of continents is caused by a giant crocodile that lives underground and causes earthquakes lmao wait thats Native American mythology lol but seriously I want to hear flat earthers explain those geodynamics lol

[@memeoususer2704]

@@Person-tz1tk they will *SOAK* in defeat while their thouths *Sink in* that they were living in lie

[@bubbsterr4967]

They can't. They'll just point to a video of another navigator in the Royal Navy saying that he saw the ice wall and tell *you* to explain *that.* When all else fails, and even the experts are calling them out on their bull, they love to point to the same few "brave whistle-blowers" to try to make themselves look credible, while ironically ignoring the thousands of genuine experts and acting like all of them are being payed off by Big Ball. "Everyone else says the earth is round which means they're all liars, but this one guy says it's flat, which means he must be telling the truth!" Delusion in its purest form.

[@86_percent28]

The flat earth conspiracy takes advantage of the human desire to feel special or superior to draw in new members. Edit: “do your research” isn’t a good response to a question you don’t want to answer.

[@dr.cheeze5382]

Honestly, it isn't even about superiority sometimes. Just think about what a round earth really means: an endless uncaryng universe. just imagine what that does to some peoples preceptions of the world, not that they're not special but that they literaly don't matter at all. to these people that must be a existentialy terrifiing realizaton so their brain goes into denial. if the earth was flat it would mean that the universe is so.. SO much smaller and give them comfort.

[@tonak4949]

u mean like any sect or religion, yes i agree :)

[@bastion8320]

It’s just a group of people wanting power and riches so they trick people into making a cult

[@RaawHax]

@@thegodcomplex6641 How does criticising people peddling anti-science and anti-progress conspiracies based on faith and belief make anyone special? Believing Flat Earth makes you special within your view of the world, since you're one of the chosen few to know the "truth". We're just poking fun at their insanity, that doesn't make us special in any way, it's just entertaining. And what exactly are we becoming "members" of? The globe Earth sex cult? Professor Dave Explains? I ain't subbed lmao

[@86_percent28]

@@thegodcomplex6641 are you trolling or are you serious?

[@firemonkey1015]

I remember when flat earth was a joke online. The fact people actually fell for it and took it seriously is hilarious but also scary.

[@AttilatheNun-xv6kc]

Especially if they're eligible to vote.

[@hoppywern9057]

Sometimes when I’m feeling down. I like to go through this and other debunks comment sections. And Dave is still down here with his delightfully scathing replies. Keep up the good work dave

[@AnthoNy-vq8bv]

I honestly didn't knew people thought the earth was flat until I had social media.. and at first I thought it was a meme or like a joke.. but no they really were serious..

[@Random_.]

Same, its like hard to believe that people are that dumb

[@AnthoNy-vq8bv]

@@Random_. it's not dumb it's ignorant and condescendant. Like the fact they convinced people about something as crucial as the earth's shape is either hilarous or terrifying

[@Random_.]

@@AnthoNy-vq8bv yeah

[@boshi9]

How do you know they are truly serious? I still think most of them are just pretending to have those beliefs.

[@Great16]

yeah some are just joking but even more are actually serious

[@shn402]

The flat earthers are the ones that got frustrated because they couldn't draw a simple sphere at school

[@alexandrev3505]

Drawing a sphere on a sheet of paper would be hard though

[@bastion8320]

Yea drawing a circle is much easier

[@bastion8320]

Lol

[@christianadam2907]

@@alexandrev3505 Right, i would go as far to say that they never could, because they also do not understand perspective :D

[@christianadam2907]

@@alexandrev3505 Oh and btw drawing a sphere is easy. Make a circle and put an ellipse around the center with the covered line dashed. Voila 3D

[@Red_2836]

I saw a documentary about flat earth. It was called "Dumbasses".

[@Aakraos]

"Any god so weak who can be hidden by his creation is not worth worshipping" I finished this video 3 hours ago, I am still at this

[@user-dm8tl7ls9d]

Actually God's signs are everywhere. Proff Dave is not a theologian lol If you can't even bare to look at the sun how can you stand to look at greatness of God in this life???

[@Aakraos]

@@user-dm8tl7ls9d Theology is useless, it's literally the same as "unicornology". There is no sign of God unless you want to see it. We can feel the sun and we can even look at it even if for a brief time. I believe you can see god as people can see ghosts or aliens, but it's just in your head

[@numbertwo579]

@@user-dm8tl7ls9dthe sun is not some magical divine being that you can’t look at it’s just big hot and very bright

[@adrianharry5336]

Honestly it wasn’t anything special. God gives us free will and hiding his existence is the devils greatest trick.

[@Aakraos]

@@user-dm8tl7ls9d you don't need a theologian to tell you things about god, why would he know more about him than you? If god existed, we would know all the same without needing theologians Theology is a scam, stop trusting it

[@TirarADeguello]

Please go after young earth creationists who think the world is only 6-10,000 years old.

[@adriantheo7654]

:) hi

[@TirarADeguello]

@@adriantheo7654 hi

[@ttamko]

I've had a guy ask me how I know the earth is older then 2000 years. I replied back with a stunned look and just said, "umm carbon dating?" He was confused at what that was and just walked away. The ignorance is real.

[@scotibot7450]

@@ttamko no to mention the romans, macedonians, chinese, sumerians just to name a few

[@ttamko]

@@scotibot7450 not to also include open trade on the silk road, the Bering Strait that froze over and nomadic people crossed from Asia / Russia to what is now Alaska. Nah man, no proofs. Lmao

[@healthdoc]

Dunning-Krueger explained it. Those who believe it are the very ones least equipped to understand how they’re wrong.

[@BigDBrian]

this isn't dunning-kruger

[@cuckoophendula8211]

The more I think about Dunning Krueger, the more I think about how it parallels Plato's cave allegory. Those in the cave think they know it all, those who meet the actual world for the first time realize they know absolutely nothing, and by the time those who actually know the world talk to those still in the cave, the cave people laugh. It's the left and right sides of the dunning krueger graph that argue with each other.

[@nathanoakley3940]

@@BigDBrian flat earth is dunning-kruger

[@Stitch-Squad2216]

"They are the big fish in the smallest and most pathetic pond imaginable." LMAO

[@kaziq]

I am not even a scientist. Just an IT engineer, that works with GPS, and uses haversine formula to calculate distances over the Earth. The formula that would give wrong results if used on a flat plane. Someone would have to pay millions of people like me, and pay a lot to keep the secret.

[@policeman4144]

Come on, please, write that formula about Let's all see her. Thank you

[@kaziq]

@@policeman4144 you want me to write the haversine formula? It's not a secret, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haversine_formula

[@humbertos.8430]

I've asked several flerfs why da heck spherical data is used to calculate distances in a flat surface. None of them have answered.

[@mattmerced1148]

@@humbertos.8430 It’s all a lie, it’s so that they can hide the secret Ps5 storage warehouses from the public (real)

[@danijelovskikanal7017]

@@policeman4144 hahaha, lmao. Flat Earther spotted

[@nectariosgeorgiou]

i didn't even need someone to disprove this. i watch this because i enjoy the reasoning you use!

[@herschel3810]

Ok then show us your debunk of this video

[@deinonychus1948]

same here lol, I tried arguing with Flat Earthers on an hour (and a bit) long documentary of the history of the Earth scaled down to a single day and it's not worth the trouble! They just go to videos that they have no reason to click on to cause trouble!

[@Cobalt985]

@@herschel3810 please re read the comment lmao

[@jhorred]

Same.

[@bastion8320]

Lol I enjoy watching so when I argue with a flat earther I can destroy them

[@pavelseliavko4312]

You are very wrong saying that there is no reason to fake the shape of the Earth, by saying it's round they get to have science and teach maths and physics in school, which is a death threat to flat earthers' brains.

[@SobatSw3]

You got me in the first half💀😂

[@danny089-theodeoron4]

Wow! Absolute GOLD! Thanks Dave! That's therapy for me! (well cause i actually met a couple of flerfs which made the experience way more traumatizing than it should be XP)

[@meltanmaster]

“This is very dumb, as any god who is so weak that it can be hidden by its own creations, is clearly not worth worshiping” idk why but this line made me burst out laughing (not in a disagreeing way I just mean it was funny to me)

[@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108]

@@jmbbk4737 "Eco-Marxist anti-capitalist UN agenda" by Schumpeter that's got to be one of the most insane phrases I have ever read, where in the actual fu** does Marxist ideology was established on UN? Did you ever read the main subject of Marxism before desmissing or even It's commentators?

[@thespelsheepington6664]

@@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108 Pretty sure jmb is invoking that "Cultural Marxism" conspiracy. Fun fact, the Nazis used the same conspiracy to get into power, but it was called something like 'Cultural Bolshevism' back then.

[@alexalbuquerquerodriguesal108]

@@thespelsheepington6664 Hmmm, interesting, now you just some food for thought for me and I don't want to know are "They" for Mr./Mrs. jmb, might be a very unpleasant "surprise".

[@4cps777]

​@@thespelsheepington6664 They also called it Marxism but Bolshevism was more used. I mean although Marx critcised religion as a whole, similarly to what modern atheists say, he was Jewish after all. So both words perfectly fit into their conspiracy theory.

[@expensivepink7]

same i agree with all of it but its so fucking funny

[@Denvercoder]

You brought up a point for why I don't believe in conspiracies. My dad used to say, "The only way to have a conspiracy is for only ONE person to be involved. If there are more than that it's impossible to keep it a secret."

[@Matuse]

In intelligence work the saying is "If 2 people know it, it's not a secret."

[@suckmytoe8454]

@@Matuse I personally like the saying " Three can keep a secret if two of them are dead."

[@suckmytoe8454]

@@flmnewvideooutinmychannel3481 In your online groups it might be, not in real life.

[@Denvercoder]

@@flmnewvideooutinmychannel3481 If it's flat then why are you shouting? Saying something stupid louder doesn't make it right.

[@basicarduinoprograming7349]

I'm an engineering student and physics is a major subject so can anyone tell WHY NO ONE INVITED ME TO THE MANSION S3X PARTY. This is sooooo unfair

[@stylesrj]

The invite was in the mail! That damned postal service must have gone postal again... the They can keep people from getting word about the edge, but sending word of a party in the mail...

[@basicarduinoprograming7349]

@@stylesrj they're gonna pay for that

[@Zanderupdate]

Hello sir. We are inviting you to the haunted sex party in 2 weeks. Please bring a raccoon and 15 storm trooper costumes for the satanic ritual so we can trick all the Christians

[@PHN3]

It's not even a "the shills outnumber the sheeps", it's that so many people would have to be in on it, literally every person in existence would have to be in on it, and at that point, why even have a conspiracy?

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

Reminds me of that SCP tale where they find out that everyone except for one single person is aware of the anomalous

[@mikekasich836]

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus it's YOU

[@royallaredbox]

Professor Dave, in my honest opinion you are one of the best science communicators on the planet. Your sceptical debunking is so clear and on point that it boggles my brain that a believer can see a video like this and not immediately change their mind. We need a pill to cure cognitive dissonance I think. I would dearly love to see you focus on some of the bigger “problems” relating to pseudoscience such as those in the medical field, especially antivaxers! Love your work.

[@ProfessorDaveExplains]

I did an anti-vaxx one! I'm fixing to do lots more medical stuff too.

[@khaleddoudechnumber1473]

@@ProfessorDaveExplains Jesus christ what how did you find this guys comment

[@royallaredbox]

Thanks Dave I will check it out. Anti-vaxxers are essentially another conspiracy and much of your approach here is directly applicable to many other conspiracies.

[@enhaxed7839]

@@khaleddoudechnumber1473 sort by newest

[@hambos]

He does have a great talent in talking plainly and straight-forwardly, which is necessary

[@papermario2006]

I like to imagine a version of earth where literally everyone of us who isn't publicly an outspoken flat-earther is in on the conspiracy and the vast majority of humanity has simply agreed to play this massive, elaborate, world-wide prank on a small group of people just so we can call them idiots. That would at least be funny as opposed to the reality we live in, where flat earthers are just pathetic.

[@starlingbaez6681]

We must take all flat earthers to this dimension

[@papermario2006]

@[ ] My dude, I don't know if this is bait or not, but scientists get not paid millions. I would know, I am one. If I actually got paid like that, you bet I'd do this shit for fun. Sadly, that's not the case and science is exactly as boring as one might think. I wish I got paid to lie, then I could just make shit up instead of, you know, working.

[@winnersduplicate554]

@[ ] what’s wrong then?

[@billcipher8645]

@[ ] dang dude can you show me those millions? I will gladly take them to lie about anything you want

[@Futures_End]

@[ ] So do you close your eyes when evidence is actually presented, or what methods do you use to ignore them? Just curious!

[@TheMarchRooster]

Not often does one come across a video that feels like it was written using one's own thoughts. Thank you for this, and while it won't do anything to change those whom you referenced, knowing it exists is cathartic.

[@iamme6581]

I think this is my favorite video regarding flat earth. This is what I've been saying lately to people who try to give flat earthers the benefit of the doubt, and will never go to space to see for themselves, which seems to be what they would need to be convinced of the globe

[@thenoob2329]

Imagine a flat earther riding a Starship and would argue that the windows are just displays for 8 months Edit: bro how is this comment still getting attention...

[@quantumgaming9180]

Never heard this one before 😂

[@Grim_Yeeter]

throw them out of the spaceship. They will feel pain and sufdering while realizing all the bullshit they made up was fake

[@saucevc8353]

@@Grim_Yeeter "I knew it! They put me in a vacuum chamber to execute me for speaking truth! Those bastards!" _proceeds to suffocate_

[@xray5984]

@@Grim_Yeeter lmao, yeah, I was just about to say, "then open the windows!"

[@xray5984]

@@eyemard weak bait. You're killing yourself all over the comments section.

[@loganstrong5426]

I'm a civil engineering student. I probably have the most diverse education of any of the engineers, because we have to cover everything from structures to the environment to city planning. An important aspect is surveying, in which you measure land to figure out its geometry: how long does your water line need to run, and how much rainfall did the state of Texas get last year? That last point is important, because it's a study called GEODETIC surveying. In it, you must account for the fact that the earth is round, triangles don't all add up to 180⁰, etc. So every person who has ever measured area of land bigger than a house must be in on it too. And trust me, engineers are not being invited to the sex parties. They're not even being invited to regular parties.

[@blainepavlock8012]

Wait, so the sex parties weren’t apart of it? Then what have I been invited to...

[@ianmitchell4745]

This is my favorite of all the arguments against the Flat Earth folks. I'm actually watching it again after months because it's so much fun.

[@jaywolfenstien]

This has always been my thought since I first heard people believe flat earth theories. "Okay, let's say you're right, Mr. Flat Earther. Let's say the Earth is actually flat. So what? Why lie about the shape of the Earth? Why say it's a Sphere? It's not like anyone is going to say, 'The Earth is shaped differently than we were told?! Marge! Pack your bags! We're outta here!' If the Earth was a frickin' cube, then it's been a frickin' cube forever and will continue to be a frickin' cube forever as far as the human lifespan is concerned, and there's nothing you can do about it. I hate to break it to you, but you're stuck on this rock regardless of how it's shaped. You're gonna live here your whole life just like EVER SINGLE HUMAN BEFORE YOU. Why spend obscene resources and power to hide something that doesn't matter because we can't do anything about it. It's a sphere. Get over it. I'll entertain freakin' Bigfoot before I'll entertain this."

[@stylesrj]

The best ones are those who claim the coverup is to hide extra lands and resources... because apparently everyone has mining equipment and a massive logistics network and the They are afraid of everyone exploiting those lands before they can...

[@MrLee-cy1pw]

Damn... that last part where he dove into the psychology of conspiracy theorists was hardcore. I usually come to this channel for a quick little video to refresh my knowledge or to just learn something random. I never realized how hardcore he can be. Respect.

[@wizardtim8573]

Flat Earthers: Your photos are all fake! Also Flat Earthers: My photos don't exist, so you can't disprove them!

[@aidendessler538]

Flat earthers have flat brains.

[@VicMcCullick]

I was watching one of these videos, and then turned to my 10 year old nephew and 6 year old nephew and said, "Remember. The Earth is a sphere. It is not flat." They were so shocked when I told them, and the 6 year old even went to his mom to make sure I wasn't lying.

[@rhetoricalquestion6009]

Goodness, what kind of a school are these kids going to? Even without going to school, images of the globe are everywhere...

[@reachandler3655]

Thankyou for this series, informative and entertaining, and also gives me the tools to survive should I meet a flerfer in the wild.

[@hannahmillington5781]

I put it down to mental health issues - people who got told things at a young age and felt powerless, now they want to fight back and challenge even the most obvious things to give themselves a sense of worth by standing up to something.

[@noyou8513]

Damn

[@noyou8513]

Well said