Promaster Engine Problems! 3.6 Pentastar Watch This Before You Buy!

[@mcspartan5822]

The head is covered on the journey because it was discovered that some of the heads were affected by factory defect involving the casting if I remember correctly... the issue was corrected in (I believe) 2015, which is why your Promaster wasn’t covered. Also, the fact that you have scoring on the cams and rocker failure, along with the cracked valve, is possibly due to overheating from running the 30 weight oil.. 20 weight seems to be the appropriate weight for the Pentastar. Again, im going off of memory... so forgive me if I’m wrong on some of this, but I wanted to throw those tidbits out there as a good starting point for getting some of your answers. Run some Mobil 1 5w20 once you get this rebuilt. I’m at 300,000 miles on my 10 year old 3.6, and I firmly believe it’s due to the oil. Also... keep an eye on your 62TE 😉

[@klrrafman]

This looks to me like damage from carbon build up due to crankase ventilation problem for which there is a bulletin. So if you have excessive oil consumption you have to address it, otherwise it will happen all over again.

[@Gunalizer]

2015 was the last year for the 150,000 powertrain warranty for Jeeps. FCA dropped the warranty coverage down to 60,000 miles. If it's the same for RAM that could also be the reason it's not covered.

[@user-ut4ez3zf6s]

😅🎉😅​@@klrrafman😢🎉

[@620015choas]

One of best engine made i have one and know people with a lot of miles.

[@ThunderAppeal]

Sometimes is about the quality of oil. Royal purple is *highly* overrated.

[@chrisportal2127]

Royal purple is not for every engine lol

[@Flydevice1]

2014 Ram promaster 2500 w/200k+ miles, doing great. 👌🏻

[@DualsportDisport]

glad to hear! thanks for watching.

[@andretigiovaneti7587]

How often do you change oil?

[@DualsportDisport]

@@andretigiovaneti7587 about every 5k or so

[@DualsportDisport]

Thanks for watching

[@rustycowll5735]

what oil filter did you use?

[@jmax6614]

I have 400,000 mile on my 2016 ram 3.6 great motor, also I used cheap Walmart gas and Mobil one oil and changed it at 9500 mile intervals

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

Then you must have the rarest of all rarest birds. The motors seem to usually clock out around 120 to 140, 000. My van currently has a little over 300,000 miles. It's on its third motor. Oil changes at the right intervals, Mobil 1 full synthetic.

[@justlivelovelaughfrugally]

400,000 thousand miles in 5 years??????? This must be used as a rental vehicle. Woah

[@jmax6614]

@@napalmstickylikeglue no it's not rare in the ram trucks to go that many miles, I know of 6 other trucks that have over 300,000 miles. But it seams like the mini vans and pro masters have way more problems with this motor

[@napalmstickylikeglue]

@@jmax6614 yeah I'm sure there are trucks that have done very well with good maintenance however the motor they use in the ProMaster is too small for the vehicle. They took a motor out of a vehicle that weighs on average 3000 lb, and put it in a vehicle that can weigh up to 9,000. They honestly need a new design.

[@noisefuljoy]

@@napalmstickylikeglue The bottom ends of the pentastars hold up well. Mine, in a caravan, has 345k on it, with the top end having had troubles at 200k. The hemis also have notorious top end oiling issues. I suspect possibly similar design parameters with the pentastar. BTW- Cars, built for today's crash standards, are way heavier than you think. The last caravan I put on a scale weighed 4400 lbs. Nothing a 3.6 was ever in weighs 3000lbs. GVW difference between a caravan and promaster is not as huge as you think.

[@adamsitar2717]

Let's just make one thing clear. I have a 27 year old toyota t100, which is my daily driver and has been put through the ringer carrying heavy loads and being overloaded on many occasions. I use it for work every day. It has 545000 Kms on it, still runs like new and does not consume any significant amount of oil. It isn't noisy or underpowered. It's a 3.4, so smaller than your engine. Last time I had the valve covers off everything was clean as a new engine. Proper engineering and good maintenance go hand in hand. At this point I never expect my engine to fail, as it is simply a beast and a marvel of engineering, never giving any issues at all. I can also vouch for the camshafts still looking like new.. go figure.... That's old school Japanese vs America for you

[@calbob750]

Ditto. 2005 Toyota Matrix 190,000 miles. Zero spent on engine repairs.

[@7meredith7]

8,000 miles on a check engine light? Somehow that speaks to how well you care for your vehicles. Also, sounds like a pretty damn good engine to run that long with a broken exhaust valve without a noticible power loss.

[@DualsportDisport]

Haha the check engine light is on more than it's off on this engine.

[@troystocker6179]

my Toyota Sienna 3.3 L , has had the check engine light on for 50k miles , O2 sensor is bad

[@dpolendo]

@@DualsportDisport hahahaha

[@DualsportDisport]

Haha my dash has about every light on.. thanks for watching!

[@jeoinaforest]

Its a POS dodge! Light came on mine at 30k, been there for 120k more...dealer said "ignore"....

[@calbob750]

2014 T&C 134,000 miles, all oil changes at dealer. CEL light comes, next day to dealer. PO 302. Number 2 cylinder. 100psi. Failed leakdown test. Replace cylinder head $3000 per service adviser. Covered by Max Care Lifetime Warranty. Having owned other Chrysler minivans I knew it was necessary to have coverage beyond the loan payoff. 3.6 Pentastar. Don’t forget the $900 oil filter housing leak.

[@moises666888]

That exhaust valve burned up because the valve guide had a lot of play (loose). Those camshafts have normal wear to that mileage. I rebuild these cylinder heads all the time. So far, I've seen burnt valves, dropped valve seats, loose guides (exhaust), broken valve springs, roller rockers go bad, and wear the cam lobs. Yeah, you can say these heads keep us busy along with subaru cylinder heads, lol.

[@TheStephenspann27]

is there enough "meat" in the valve seats to lap in a new valve, or recut the seat? When you have a cracked valve I mean.

[@lkazanov]

The way I look at it, as opposed to buying a sprinter, The Achilles’ heel of this engine is known. And with a semi skilled home mechanic it is completely doable. I like that.

[@lorenstreet9955]

Great info, thanks for taking the time to post. I am in the process of replacing all 24 rockers and lifters or tappets and followers however I should refer them. I have both valve covers removed finally took the better part of two days. Waiting for the cam phaser tool to come in the mail before I reinstall. Im a little nervous about moving forward but this beats the 6k that the dealership wanted to do the job. I am going to replace one cam during the process.....left bank intake. Hopefully I can get another 100k out of this repair. Thanks again for this info, it helps.

[@DualsportDisport]

Glad to help out, getting slack in the chain is tricky and takes a few tries. Reach out if you have any questions

[@ilyanabokin5444]

I have 2014 3500 ext one, doing lots of highway miles working in expediting business. Got it in 2018 with 28k miles on it. From 30k miles to 240k miles used it occasionally to tow 7*14 enclosed trailer (empty 2200lbs up to 5k-6k GTW) about 70k miles with that trailer and maybe 30k with smaller ones like 5*8 or 6*12 Uhaul ones. First year fall - about 60k miles went through rocky mountains in CO with full trailer 5k lbs I think and empty van - that was a mistake. Overheated trans and it failed. Luckily still had factory warranty - was about to expire in a few months)) New dealer trans (could cost me 7k if paying out of pocket). since then replaced alternator, belt and bearings. Battery, spark plugs and tires. Oil change every 8-10k with semi sintetic HM oil. Almost 300k miles now. Changed trans fluid twice (160k and 290k), since 240k using occasionally to tow only small trailers. Lots of dash lights on for a while (air bags sensor, oil pressure sensor and some minor ones). Overall very pleased with grandpa PROMaster - few tips - dont go over 3,5k rpms, don't tow anything really heavy over the Rockys or in some tough parts at NE and other Appalachian mountains. GL and HF))

[@DualsportDisport]

Great to hear your first hand experience as an owner! I too have towed over the Rocky mountains with this van twice with the car on the back. It didn't like it but it did it! Great vehicles, and very easy to work on overall in my opinion. Would you agree?

[@charlessanders1342]

Not enough motor for that size of vehicle. I drove one and noticed how high the rpm's go to get it going like holy crap. Seen town and country vans 3.6 go 230k no problems.

[@tonystephenson9961]

That's what I'm thinking. 3.6 moves a Grand Caravan, but this is a whole different class.

[@tigerseye73]

Our 2014 Chrysler 300 C uses 5w-20 motor oil. It's in the owners manual. I always use Mobile One full synthetic. No ticking or engine codes so far at 53K miles. Not looking forward to doing what you had to, but I am capable of engine rebuilds if needed. Thanks for all the good info .

[@mrtopcat2]

I recently saw a video with a Pentastar that had 500k miles and I am not surprised. To me this is one of THE best engines in it's class (V6) and of it's time, that was available on the market for someone who is working on their stuff like you (and me) in terms of easy access and repair ability, but also about longevity. The oil filter housing and roller rocker issues that so many people are crying about are nothing in comparison with the trouble what other engines (same class, same time) are now for. Again, is it perfect? No, but it is as good as it gets. People who disagree are usually those who don't work on their engines an keep quoting what "their mechanic said".

[@robertelmo7736]

@@mrtopcat2 The faulty roller rockers wiped out a cam of mine...not a big deal lol?

[@matthewstiles3963]

@@mrtopcat2 I somewhat agree with you. Ease of work yes but these at least some still apparently have the flaw. If you go through the videos on here there is always a theme. #2 cylinder misfire that is later diagnosed as low compression or severe blow by. Also usually low on #4 as well. To many people with exact same issue to be a fluke. Chrysler said at one point it was due to poor fuel quality use higher octane to reduce pre-ignition. Maybe that is why some have issues and some do not. All I know is I can be hardly afford low grade and it's not a super high compression engine I'm not paying for high test to fix their issues. I'm a Chrysler fan I have three but this will be the last 3.6. My 4.7 v8 has almost 160000 miles and just replaced first sensor last week. The 3.6 had head replacement at 76000 miles I'm not impressed!

[@dannysdailys]

The real design flaw is the horrible PVC system they have. It actually cools the engine gases and injects it back into the engine instead of the exhaust to get burned up. This also makes it into a sealed system with no way to equalize engine pressure and vent the moisture. Because the engine can't vent, It fills the intake manifold with oily gunk. and corrupts the oil with water. You should change your oil more often. at least every 5,000 miles. By having oil misting out of the intake manifolds into the cylinders it causes carbon to build up on the intake, exhaust valves, and the piston tops which is a known issue with the 3.6. There is a fix and it's adding two catch cans, one on each side of the motor. This is a well known problem with the 3.6 and many companies make catch cans for them. The catch cans get the moisture and gases out and clean up the intakes. Carbon coated valves will cause them to run hot and burn, even though they're forged valves. If there is any flaw with the engine, that is it. I highly recommend catch cans for anyone who owns the Pentastar. This is especially prevalent in cold temperatures and will fill up the catch cans with white gunk. That is what water does to oil and it would be back into the engine with even more water without the catch cans. I have an 18 Charger and at 9k miles, the intake manifolds and the air intake were soaked with oil. And the thing ran so well, I couldn't believe it. Not anymore.

[@wtang912]

How do you install two? Are you running one can from the pcv into the other can then into the intake?

[@dannysdailys]

@@wtang912 One runs from the PVC to the valve cover and the other runs from the air filter to the valve cover.

[@wtang912]

Gotcha. I’m using my 3.6l as my learning experience into cars so Im not that experienced at all with engines, but is the one from the valve cover to air filter really necessary. I would think the pcv valve is for sure, but does the other side also filter crankcase pressure?

[@dannysdailys]

@@wtang912 Yes it does, just not as much. Most can get away without. Check your air filter, if it's gunky, it needs a catch can. Mine would drip into my supercharger blades so it was a no brainer. This applies to all Pentastars 2016 and up.

[@hemigodre]

don't run royal purple in anything

[@portagepete1]

Should have fixed the check engine light very soon, your engine was running rich, you used cheap oil and cheap gas and ran it too hard next time use fuel injector cleaner once and a while with cleaner gas use synthetic oil and change it more often.

[@bones007able]

Chrysler acknowledged the problem on the early 3.6 and they extended the warranty ... now lets talk about the GM 3.6 problems

[@nismo2070]

Both 3.6 engines are junk after warranty.. Chryslers have cyl head/rocker arm issues and GMs have VVT issues.

[@c5back9]

@@nismo2070: brother just bought a caddie with the 3.6. I tried to warn him, but he won’t listen. Never has.

[@kenrobinson1099]

there's another pro master owner with his engine out for a refresh 600K+ Miles.

[@MyKfactor]

Flawless engines. Only use Magnatech Oil. Essential

[@jasonhooey5677]

Royal purple, lots of money for a few drops of dye in a crappy oil.

[@ConsistentlyAwkward]

pretty sure this is the oldest myth around royal purple doesn’t use dye and isn’t a bad oil at all but if this guy goes over 5k mile interval then that’s the answer

[@jordankendall86]

Sorry to hear it wasn't covered under the extended warranty that Mopar offered. I have a 2012 Dodge Grand Caravan that I bought around 50,000 miles. I have heard of this problem, but have yet to experience any problems. I am hoping the left head was replaced before I bought it. I also have not had any problems with rocker arms, lifters, or any excessive wear to the cam shaft. Maybe I got lucky. I did however had to replace the oil filter/cooler housing because the plastic warped just enough to cause a small leak. I replaced with an aluminum oil filter/cooler instead of the OEM plastic version. I also had issues with the thermostat and because the housing is also plastic, I decided to replace with a metal one. While I was at it I also replaced the coolant crossover pipe that is plastic with a metal one. I finally nipped my coolant leak in the butt, hopefully permanently. I change my oil with generic full synthetic oil and generic oil filter every 5,000 miles and I still haven't had any major engine problems. I am up to 140,000 miles now. I did get the transmission rebuilt a little after 80,000 miles and after some research have decided to at least drop the transmission pan and replace the transmission filter at minimum every 50,000 miles. That won't replace all the transmission fluid because I think about half always stays inside the transmission unless you pump it out either using a professional machine or using the transmission pump on the vehicle. I might try to use the transmission pump to extract the old transmission fluid will new fluid is suck in.

[@cbrown17982010]

I had a similar incident with my 2013 Jeep jk wrangler @ 120k miles however the valve was even more Burt through and like you’d went out through the cats. Went with a remanufactured Jasper and it’s been fantastic since.

[@DualsportDisport]

Glad to hear you got it back on the road

[@MOAllDa]

My God. Tight spaces in that van. I thought my ladies avenger was hard. Good job

[@traderdan85]

Having those kind of problems at only 100k miles is totally inexcusable these days .. very sad but good video

[@DualsportDisport]

Thanks for watching. I still am happy with it even with the head replacement job. Simple vehicle to work on compared to some

[@martysherrygriggs8136]

Ok, you said you were running Royal purple 5w30. THis engine requires 5w20 weight oil to aid in proper flows at low and high rpm. Also, were you running E85 fuel in this? I know that the manufacturer says you can but this engine runs a 208 degree thermostat for fuel efficiency and that can lead to high cylinder temps also. The burning and cracking on the exhaust valve indicates high cylinder temperatures and pre-detonation. These engines when run with 5w20 synthetic oil changed every 5-7000 mi and 91 octane (no alcohol) gas should run for 250,000 mi + kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXXNp5mabtKia9U

[@andretigiovaneti7587]

Good observation I run and avenger 14 , 65k so far so good full sysn 5 w20 every 5k.

[@williamryan7403]

I have 250k. Why should you only get 250k? I'm seeing high miles with these vans and the Ford and Chevy.

[@williamryan7403]

87 octane is what it calls for. 91 gives you nothing.

[@martysherrygriggs8136]

@@williamryan7403 I should have also written in my post that the damage to the valves could have been caused by pre-detonation. These engines have been known to have issues with this. Resulting in Chrysler extending the warranties out to 150000 miles for certain casting numbers of this engine. Therefore, as I am an ASE certified and trained mechanic with 30 years experience respectfully disagree. Premium 91 octane fuel was developed for higher compression/higher revving engines to prevent pre-detonation and aid in a more complete fuel burn. In a "standard" performance engine, you would see no benefit, as they usually have compression ratios below 9.3/1. The pentastar is running 11.3/1 compression ratio, which is up in the realm of racing engines. While the engine is capable of meeting the Euro6 standards, it is always recommended to burn premium 91 octane fuel in engines that have compression ratios of 10/1 or higher.

[@williamryan7403]

@@martysherrygriggs8136 If what you say is true. Why does Chrysler recommend ,87 octane? The Pentastar is a platform used in trucks vans and performance vehicles and each has been factory tuned for it's own purpose.

[@123erikJohnstone]

This doesn't cover all 3.6 Pentastars. The earlier generations of the engine suffered cylinder head failure as well as rocker arm failures. More recent engines still are susceptible to the rocker arm failures, but as far as the cylinder head issues, it's been fixed.

[@williamryan7403]

The engine takes 5w-20. Not 5w-30.

[@ka81100]

I have a 2015 Jeep Wrangler JK with the same issue, Left cylinder 6 had a misfire. Found out it was a hole in my exhaust valve. Replaced my cylinder at home after Jeep Dodge tried to charged me $8000 for the job because vehicle is out of warranty and wasn't covered because it's a 2015. Ordered a new head and gasket took me 2 days and I'm not a mechanic.....Still going strong after two weeks no check engine light and better gas mileage.....

[@lkazanov]

I think Stan the Van had an identical issue, seems to be always #2 for whatever reason.

[@DualsportDisport]

Yea and specifically seems to be the left side head. Wierd. Thanks for watching

[@allangoodchild8989]

Lifter's wear out, and depending on the year bad radiator seals. 183k on mine and running good

[@williamryan7403]

Your coolant is low. Just top it up. Not that hard. Just do it.

[@Troy-McClure81]

I got rid of my 2016 town and country with 3.6,less then 78k miles and i had 8 rockers ,4 rods,coolant system replaced, ignition coils etc.Motor is strong but vendor parts Chrysler used are trash

[@DualsportDisport]

Sorry to hear about your bad luck with the 3.6.. thanks for watching!

[@fraser405]

Well maybe use the right weight oil as well. 5W-20 is what's supposed to go in the 3.6L.

[@themisunderstoodgorilla7030]

you reckon the different grade of oil broke the exhaust valve ?

[@wtang912]

They say 5w-20 for emission standards. 5w-30 is actually better for this engine and would be the recommended if 5w-20 didn’t also work only for better economy being it is thinner than 5w-30

[@raymonddriggers]

Yeah I’ve heard your issue is common in2017’s and older I heard they rectified 2018 and up

[@williamryan7403]

They put those marks on the coolant reservoir for a reason,yes,your coolant is low and leaking. Your probably introducing air bubbles into your coolant system on steep grades. Air pockets cause water pump cavitation and improper coolant flow. Just fill the thing up.

[@chargrams9906]

ALL MY 3.6 recommended oil, 0-20 or 5-20 ,change oil at 3000 ,NOPROBLEMS ALSO KEEP COOLANT AT FULL,

[@MongoBaker]

Mahle...pronounced Mah-lee...can't speak to the part you have there, but for years Mahle was the "go to" for pistons in 2-stroke dirt bikes.

[@oasisauto]

I think I’m getting there...I’ve 2015 town&country since new ...now have about 76,000 my extended warranty just expired at 75,000 miles all my maintenance been done by Chrysler dealer..just get the 302 misfire c#2...change spark plugs/coil/ intake manifold gaskets / swap fuel injector.....pc valve....air filter...with no luck yet ...next I guess compression test for c# 2 🤷‍♂️......

[@DualsportDisport]

Good luck!

[@joeshmoe8952]

Anyone know if the engines in the new 2021 promaster 3500 are any good?

[@brentloftis3746]

Good video - and great work. Thanks

[@DualsportDisport]

Thanks for watching!

[@Texaca]

@@DualsportDisport ... did you record the teardown of the engine? It looks like a worse job, than working on a Buick Rendezvous or a GM Minivan U-Platform. 🤔 At least you can see the 3.4L engine in the Buick, and get to most of the hoses and lines, without having to disassemble the whole front and top end of the vehicle.

[@DualsportDisport]

@@Texaca I didn't get all of the teardown I got some but not all. I'll have to go through my footage and see why I have. Thanks for watching. Im not sure what to compare it to but overall it was bad.

[@brianarnone933]

The valve is not cracked it's burnt from detonation caused generally by bad fuel aka ethanol in the gas. There is no piece missing it split. Not sure what oil your using but a good synthetic is what I use in my 2014 GC and never had a rocker issue. Timing chains though Bwahahahahaaaaa

[@tornadofire82]

My 2018 promaster 2500 had a major engine failure on the highway with electronic throttle control at 151k miles went into limp mode and whatever happened destroyed the engine and cam shafts etc. Waiting for newer used engine to be installed.. $7k because of a $132 part failure.

[@Gunalizer]

FCA dropped the powertrain warranty coverage down to 60,000 miles in 2015.

[@mitsucarpentry]

I use pennzoil ultra full synthetic Drive and never floor it now with 135k no problem

[@brotha1984]

If you gonna get a pentastar engine make sure it's a 2016 model and up chrysler redesign that engine work out the bugs that plague earlier year models

[@blanchard899]

Manual I think shows the coolant should be in between minimum and max when the engine is cold

[@chiefjoseph8154]

80,000 miles on mine. Bad cam, valve. Possible piston issue. Not Happy! My first and last Ram product.

[@bennettlockandkeymattandja9671]

Looks like royal purple is no good

[@keyeldip]

My understanding is that the coolant reservoir on these 2017‘s leaks a lot” I’m always topping mines up, took my pro master in for a gas cap error code and found the evaporation sensor was bad $450.00😩then I had like two recalls on it” they have to order in parts” then they said the coolant reservoir had a leak😩 I really love this truck i’m at 110,000 miles do you think it’s time to get a new one?

[@DualsportDisport]

I'm up to 150,000 and haven't had any other issues. Thanks for watching

[@gabemtz2246]

My promaster 2015 rebuild the two heads for misfire on cilinder 4 valves was working rough and shake a little bit but I was thinking only sparks plugs and coil but finally Ending doing the heads almost $2000 work

[@DualsportDisport]

Running good now? Thanks for watching and for the info

[@gabemtz2246]

@@DualsportDisport they are testing now to make sure the misfire is not there but those vans is very delicate 6 months I replace the transmission too Over 7k I put in that van but I need for my work I’m thinking to trade in for a Nissan v8 5.6 3500

[@DualsportDisport]

@@gabemtz2246 how many miles are you up to?

[@gabemtz2246]

@@DualsportDisport 97000 transmission fail 106000 engine heads valves fail

[@dubguy1121]

At the mopar dealers we usually reuse the head bolts as long as they’re not necked.

[@matthewstiles3963]

Have a 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan with the 3.6L having the exact same issue right now. It only has 76000 miles. I was told this was an issue with the early models but must still be a problem on some. Low compression on 2 cylinders #2 has 60% blowby and the #4 had 40% . Serviced every 4500 miles with mobile one full synthetic oil. Presented also with p0302 or #2 cylinder misfire. Waiting for dealership to remove head and see if warranty I got when I bought van used will cover it. I purchased it used at 49000 miles. I wish I had seen some of these videos before I purchased it. 😔

[@bjornironsides6474]

Your purchased warranty should cover that. Hope they were direct with you on that.

[@calbob750]

My 2014 T&C just did the same. #2 cylinder. $3000 repair. Having owned other Chrysler minivans bought extended FCA warranty. Only $6500 of warranty work since new.

[@alexmaclean1]

They switched since parts in 2013 which improved things but definitely did not fully solve the problem. It's always cylinder 2... But a bad job once you do a dozen of them but resulted in a lot of mad customers who had no extended coverage despite them clearly not fully fixing the issue after 2012 as they claimed.

[@dannysdailys]

The Pentastar came out in 13.

[@alexmaclean1]

@@dannysdailys its been for sale since 2011 in Canada, in the minivans first I think.

[@dannysdailys]

@@alexmaclean1 The Pentastar came out in 13, it became a 3.6 in 14 and was supposed to have twin turbos, but they never put in the turbos. So I put in a supercharger instead.

[@alexmaclean1]

@@dannysdailys "For 2011 the Grand Caravan has a new 3.6-liter V6 engine that makes 283 horsepower - the best in the class"

[@shanevanorder2644]

Got a 2016 jeep with misfire code very worried 155000 miles

[@methanial73]

185K on my 3.6, runs great still.

[@Fahmbo]

What year?

[@methanial73]

@@Fahmbo 2012.

[@dannysdailys]

But, I am curious just how many miles do you think it should go before it has a problem. 100,000 is a lot of miles.

[@DualsportDisport]

Well many other vehicles I've had over 300k with zero internal motor problems. Thanks for watching.

[@dannysdailys]

As far as the catch cans go? You won't make 100 k with the 2016 and up without them.

[@dannysdailys]

@@DualsportDisport And what motors would that be? Toyota? Certainly not a 2016 and up Pentastar.

[@stevied462]

Thats a burnt valve..... not a "chip"....

[@richarddonegan4666]

Look at all the carbon in that motor that thing needed a CATCH CAN hooked up to it😮...?

[@MannyWC]

Promaster should n’t be idled as the oil doesn’t reach the cams and rockers hence the wearing and ticking…

[@DualsportDisport]

Thanks for watching. Why would a vehicle manufacturer design an engine that doesn’t pump oil at idle? To me all this is hogwash. These things are regularly fleet vehicles which literally idle on the side of the road during crew work all the time.

[@DualsportDisport]

Have you ever turned over an engine without the valve cover on? These engines… All of them… Have a zero problems pumping oil.

[@MannyWC]

@@DualsportDisport Good question. Many engines have flaws, this is one of them. A short idle will be ok- jumping in and out for delivery etc. It is the long dry idle (vanlifers charging their house batteries, or just to run the ac/heater). Do you have a better explanation for this endemic problem?

[@goodfellamoto5787]

The studs are pronounced “molly” we have a plant here in East tn

[@Benny-dv7xm]

Thanks. I needed some truth on the basic mechanics of different vans. Can you tell me the better used van and the motor\ tranny packages and new van choices and the motor\ tranny packages for a poor mans budget. I just saw that ford has a van and Scotty Kilmer talked about the Maverick starting under $20k. But, I hate all that computer shit! We could lean out cars and get better mileage than they can get with this complicated computer shit variable valve train and efi and now engines are designed for computers not people. I am currently renting and this Nissan NV2500 high top only gets 7mpg empty. Can you tell me how to safely and inexpensively re-set the computer so it chooses a better map for fuel economy? Where do you know someone for a land deal to restart a homestead? Do you have any auto buddies in the Maryland area? Cheers,

[@brianmi40]

Don’t happen to know any good mechanics in St. Petersburg, FL by chance? Need an engine replacement in 2018 ProMaster 2500, 3.6L…

[@DualsportDisport]

Can't say I do off hand sorry man. Thanks for watching

[@brianmi40]

@@DualsportDisport thanks

[@MrLaughingcorpse]

Try sea foam to keep the carbon build up cleaned.

[@VileMisanthropy]

MAHLE - "Molly"

[@chrisreed26]

Thank you for saving me from buying one!! I have yet to ever own a vehicle where I had to even open the engine like that! Only 100K miles and to need that is not good. Heck my 2005 Eacape 2.3 4 cylinder still runs well with no leaks or knocks aside from needing a map sensor which I have yet to replace as I just raised the idle up some to compensate for the low idle stumble when the map sensor would act up. I know I know bad sorry. It’s got 215,000 miles I don’t see the need to put any money into it.

[@DualsportDisport]

Thanks for watching! I honestly still love my van and would probably buy another with price and parts availability in mind.

[@ihatecandy02]

Hey, I hope you get my reply but right now I'm driving a 2014 Dodge charger, it's got a 3.6l V6 pentastar engine in it. It has 119k miles on it. I initially put what it had said on the gas cap. E85 gas The E85 gas was absolutely awful feeling when I drove around with it. Once I put in 93 or shells vpower I got increased responsiveness and mpg. I am currently also suffering from that ticking noise, I'd say it's fairly tolerable ticking noise, but it's there. Is it okay that I put in fully synthetic Valvoline Platinum 5w30 high mileage oil, since the engine has well over 100k on it I figure a slightly thicker oil will ensure it's longevity plus I have very calm driving habits. Please give advice of any, thanks all. Oh and my mpg currently while on the highway, and sustained driving well over 20miles plus was 32.4mpg (and I have the police pursuit package for this, not sure if anything changes)

[@DualsportDisport]

Hey sorry I didn't see this sooner! Honestly if it was me, I would only run the factory recommended oil. It is a good point to be sure, and it's very possible that the whole time I was running the factory oil and just don't remember I don't know.. anyways, a good quality oil at the factory weight and I would think you should be fine.

[@ihatecandy02]

@@DualsportDisport Good morning 👋, so I decided to go with what the manufacturer recommended oil weight which is 5w-20, so I decided to put the best oil at that weight in. I'm currently using Mobile 1 high mileage advanced protection oil, fully synthetic. 5w20. And the car is running fine, only thing tho, and I did not mention this in my previous post here But what do you make of the fact that while I'm say at a red light while in drive, waiting, I start to see my oil pressure slowly go down, from 19psi, then 17psi an then when it gets to 15psi the engine or something starts to make alittle grinding noise or shuddering slightly I feel, so I put it in park or neutral until the light is green, so the oil psi goes back to 24ish+ and the shaking stops lol

[@bubbsy2002]

Use Pennzoil

[@jamesdumas6602]

The Promaster vans are too heavy for a V6 motor. Cracked / burnt exhaust valves are from too much heat. Those vans should have had the 5.7 V8 motors in them with a big radiator.

[@Texaca]

... it doesn't look like they have much ventilation inside the engine bay to me 🤔 ..all that heat generated inside the engine bay, needs to have a way to escape, imo

[@Sheepleton]

They're fine, they routinely have hundreds of thousands of miles put on them worry free.

[@ralphlazio505]

Cylinder #2 failed on m 2011 Dodge caravan with ONLY 42k original highway miles! $1,900 repair job.... not happy.... at all. Our other car is Lexus with 250k miles... no problems so far. We will NEVER purchase another Chrysler product again. NEVER.

[@DualsportDisport]

Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Thanks for watching

[@charlesj.r9841]

2011-2013 Pentastar engines are covered by extended warranty (only left cylinder head have problems). You shouldn't pay $1900 for the repair job.

[@come_on_now]

Rams are junk... Chrysler is junk! Dodge, stays in garage

[@jeremyallen3448]

Rocker arms should be a recall

[@Sheepleton]

Out of over 10 million engines produced there really weren't that many with issues.

[@jeremyallen3448]

@@Sheepleton i own 3 of the engines all three has had the same rocker arm failure.

[@TheXOoftheRO]

how long between oil changes?

[@DualsportDisport]

I went about 5k between them

[@MyKfactor]

10 to 15 000 km. 9 to 10 000 miles. Must be fully synthetic oil

[@TheXOoftheRO]

they need to be done every 2000 miles full synthetic.

[@ccredmansvids]

@@TheXOoftheRO every 2k miles?? Bruh you tripping. 5-6k miles should be quite adequate for full synthetic oil, otherwise there's no point using synthetic oil for such short oil change periods.

[@falconron4217]

6.0 chevy still going 430k engine never been apart.

[@timothyklick1239]

What oil do you run now?

[@DualsportDisport]

5w-20. I don't have a brand preference anymore. Thanks for watching

[@ihatecandy02]

@@DualsportDisport so I shouldn't use 5w-30 high mileage?

[@bjornironsides6474]

@@ihatecandy02 no, manual says 5w 20 for a reason

[@bubbsy2002]

Use good gas too

[@U.S.SlaveOfficial]

Got lucky, found rare 2000 ram van 2500, cast head and block. As long as anything better than aluminum block is available I'll not considered the pop can engine rigs. Bell my channel if ya wanna check it out when I get content on it

[@davidrobins4025]

Not running the recommended engine oil. Go figure.

[@DualsportDisport]

Maybe someone can comment on here but I have heard rumors that oils are so lightweight nowadays for fuel economy not for engine lubrication. A lot of people go to a thicker oil. Thanks for watching

[@DualsportDisport]

This also does not explain the countless other people that have had these same problems with the 3.6...

[@joesteele581]

Those Chinese head studs will out last this engine

[@johnlacroix1639]

WOW very kool great info. AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot keep up the great work

[@chrisconley5664]

I bet he runs the hell out of this van racing everyone at every red light.

[@waynehenson1094]

No thank you.

[@cyoungso]

mall-ah, like Allah with a german accent

[@scottmcmichael319]

Pentastar engines are nothing but problems man, royal purple is great oil, those engines are just not made very well

[@forthefunofit5487]

Sorry I have to disagree. I have delt with several 3.6 Pentastar motors and 90% have very few issues. Its a well built motor and has lots of power. You saying nothing but problems.....................you are way off.

[@scottmcmichael319]

@@forthefunofit5487 my experience with them like I’ve already said multiple times a now, they are good and reliable and zippy at first as they get around 100k or 150k they start having nothing but problems

[@scottmcmichael319]

@@forthefunofit5487 of course then again especially when it comes to engine or transmission failures, in there defense as far as I’m concerned dealers have crazy weird service intervals. I’m not talking exactly about the pentastar here but I’ve heard of people saying well according to the dealership I never have to change my transmission fluid or I got like 10,000 miles before I have to change my oil cause it’s synthetic I don’t know if you agree or not I just think it’s a little high for me. I change my synthetic oil every 5k and transmission fluid I personally change about once a year so maybe they might hold up better depending on what there factory service intervals are

[@forthefunofit5487]

@@scottmcmichael319 Yes I do agree. 5k is the max that engine should go on oil change. Also it has been discussed many a time on LONG continued idle times. It plays hell on the upper valve train. Have you seen this??? >>>>> kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXXNp5mabtKia9U

[@scottmcmichael319]

@@forthefunofit5487 yes I have and yes I agree super long idles due play a role and once again not specifically talking about the pentastar or dodge but I’ve heard people at dealers say things like don’t change the oil until the light tells you or something like that at that point it doesn’t matter how well it’s built that’s not a good recipe for long life especially if or when that system malfunctions I knew a lady one time had a suburban she didn’t change the oil till the light told her to and she went almost 40k before that light came on to tell her to change it lol

[@ultralaserblast381]

I think ill dodge the ram because the pro master ram head problems look dodgy. ecoboost for the win

[@Sheepleton]

The guy didn't take care of it. 8k miles with a check engine light? Cmon

[@prevost8686]

Junk engines.