PROSPECTING FAMILY MEMBERS INTO THE CLUB - MY RESPONSE TO CLUBS QUESTION

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[@Whizzer_]

Agree Dibs - unconscious bias is real both negative and positive. Should be equitable. H+R

[@DibberInTheWind]

agreed, that bias will always be there and most family will always look out for family.

[@Angry_Boomer]

Agreed. Even if there would be no favoritism, there would still be doubt amongst the ranks regardless. Good question.

[@DibberInTheWind]

Totally agreed.

[@SpiderRiderMC]

With my club you have to prospect in the chapter without family members if and where possible, it's part of our By-Laws to try and keep direct family such as brothers and fathers separate during prospecting period. If they cant be kept separate no family members are allowed to sponsor them or vote on their membership, that includes cousins too. We run the same rules as the club you prospected for in 1982 in the UK so we work members with family in the club a lot harder and for longer than non family then nobody can say that person had an easy ride or benefited from family being in the club. Great topic Brother Dibz

[@scousetommy2480]

Bit earlier than am used to on a Sunday!! Good one today though

[@DibberInTheWind]

I'm busy this eve and cant do a live so decided to put this one up instead.

[@FrankSammataro-jl7eb]

Morning DIBB my man.

[@DibberInTheWind]

Hi there Frank, hope all is well with you.

[@MrToekneeG]

It can be done. Just expect an ardious and extended prospecting period so it can't be said that favours were called in by daddy dearest! LH&R

[@DibberInTheWind]

Absolutely bruv. MLH&R

[@digitaldogs233]

As you know I'm not in a MC so can't and won't talk on it as if i am. But it kinda makes sense, in all aspects of life, even in sports your going to favour your family over the rest, it's just how humanity is, we look after blood above everything, well should imo.

[@DibberInTheWind]

Quality comment as always DD.

[@digitaldogs233]

@@DibberInTheWind Well thankyou Dibber, i appreciate that ✌️🙏

[@TheSandmanCometh]

My club only has a single chapter so when family of a member wants to join the other family members are not permitted to be involved in their prospecting and cant vote on their membership either. That's worked for us for 7 years and how we think this subject should be handled, it's in our by-laws.

[@DibberInTheWind]

Always good to have these things covered in your by-laws, smart move.

[@robertmills6497]

In a multi chapter club the relative should absolutely prospect in anither chapter. In a single chaptet the relative that is a full.member CANNOT have a vote and CANNOT be a sponsor for a prospect. However they are as reponsible as any other full patch for educating the prospect on the rules of club life. Nobody should get an easy ride because their dad uncle or big brother is a member (or worse, an officer).

[@DibberInTheWind]

Agreed all the way.

[@JamesPerk-h3n]

I can agree with you on some level, although my experience is with an international club. As long as the prospect isn't shown any favoritism because of his father's status, it's not a problem. Often times the prospect has a harder way to go to prove that he's tough enough to ride with the crew, and not because of his father's status.

[@thewolfgrandmawanedyouabout]

My club is one of the big 4 internationals and we never allow family to prospect into a chapter where they have other family members and especially if a family member is an officer. I don't know where you live but all the chapters of my club where I live operate the same way.

[@thepeakybiker]

As long as he prospects and has no different treatment than the others shouldn’t matter

[@DibberInTheWind]

Doesn't always go that way thou, seen it many times where people have said treat them tougher as they are family and then watch them breeze it. Personally i'll always say, if they have another chapter that's close enough, make them prospect via that chapter as no-one can ever point the finger in the future that way and the chances of breezing it are a lot less likely to happen.

[@thepeakybiker]

@@DibberInTheWind yea if it’s the only chapter though shouldn’t be treat any worse than any other prospect But saw it myself people being treated differently to others just because they knew someone or was a family member