Protecting Your Car From Rust For Less Than £1

Bilt Hamber Atom Mac
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atom-mac is a migratory and contact corrosion inhibitor that is diluted in water before use. It provides protection against corrosion in both open spaces and hollow voids. The powerful migratory phase corrosion inhibitors are liberated from the product and are carried in vapour phase to form an invisible atomic shield against corrosion of ferrous metal.
How To Use
Dilute from 2 - 5% in water and spray on surfaces to be protected. Atomise onto brakes discs and surfaces after washing the vehicles and allow to dry (use 1-2% in water on motorcycles and bicycles and 5% on cars with disc brakes). Atomise into voids to protect interior surfaces at a rate of 2ml (of neat product) per litre of space. atom-mac should be diluted to 2- 5% to neutralise corrosive winter road salt and sprayed liberally on vehicle undersides this rate also provides invisible protection to bicycles, machinery tools and equipment. To use post deox C or GEL, or blast cleaning treatment 2% added to the rinse water is sufficient to eliminate flash corrosion and protect the treated item. Sealing in plastic bag or container traps the migrating corrosion inhibitors and adds further protection. atom-mac can be used in pressure washers and can be applied to the entire underside where it will neutralise road salt and emit power corrosion inhibitors, it should be applied at the end of each wash. Even wet cars can be put into storage allowing the migratory inhibitors to protect the entire vehicle. Aim for 2% atom-mac strength from the pressure washer nozzle.
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[@martec06]

Take a steel plate, grind it, treat one side of it and place it outside and see what happen.

[@joevanseeters2873]

Another great video by the Forensic Detail Channel! This channel is without a doubt one of the best channels on KZbin that does VEHICLE DETAILING related videos. All the information presented is USEFUL! It's not highlighting a detail job, it's talking about detailing products and giving a good honest review of what the product will do.

[@DrewHughesMusic]

Very interesting. I like the idea of keeping it to hand and when I’m under the car changing bushes or brake pads etc I can just spray this in and around everywhere. Anything that helps keep my car rust free is great. I drive a ford and I live in the highlands of Scotland. Anything that prevents rust is great!

[@1669Python]

I bought this product on your recommendation Jon for use on my 2011 Toyota Hilux. I have massive confidence in Bilt Hamber products. None of them have let me down yet.

[@maxburg4817]

Bilt Hamber is bloody good gear. 10/10 for the brand and products. I wasn’t aware of it, so I’ll take a further look Jon. Nice one 👍🏼

[@wo-wodetailingaccessories9474]

Anyone who has M Performance Brakes needs this in their arsenal. I spray my discs liberally after rinsing my wheels cleaner off and this helps reduce the brake dust massively. I’m doing a big commute at the moment and by the time I get to work on a Monday morning the wheels still look fresh. Great review of a great product.

[@sarammika]

Great vid John! I used this in a bit different way. I bought set of used suspension arms for my car to fit them with poly bushes, stripped them down to bare metal including inside (dunk them in citric acid solution) and before painting I dunk them again this time in Atom-Mac solution (for ca. 20 minutes). Thing is that i didn't have time for painting right away, so I left everything for a month just sitting there in a box. There was no flash corrosion or any rust specs anywhere, so I painted over it (with proper paint prep) and all came out great. I still have half of a bucket of that thing sitting on my balcony ready to use! fantastic stuff.

[@ForensicDetailing]

thats great to hear marek, I need to do some sort of similiar test.

[@Lagoyaz]

Looking forward to a future video where you test this product on a few metal test sheets. Very interested in this product, great point in protecting all pieces of our cars, no point in a 200€ coating when you have rust in the wheel arches...

[@Byley-e7h]

Great review as always. This product needs applying after every wash its not a long term protection product like dynex UC . Best used in a garden sprayer bottle with long wand to access under wheel arches and underside. I have the litre bottle on stand by for my new car arrival . Only time will tell if it does what it says on the tin. Had a test run on my old car and it does stop brake disc flash corrosion after washing 👍

[@ForensicDetailing]

you could use it like that bear, but the corrsion inhibitors should last a lot longer than that. I would look to do it every 3-6 months and go in at 5%.

[@longden57]

Thanks for doing this review Jon! This product has been in my watch list on eBay for a while. I think it's about time I get it bought as it's definitely something my much loved, aging cars would benifit from where rust is an ever increasing risk. Every little helps ey! Take care mate.

[@JerryMotorsport]

Think I'm going to be putting this on my '73 MG Midget to keep the rust worm away once I've got rid of what's there already. As always, loving the channel and honest reviews. The channel has really opened my eyes to looking after cars properly.

[@Sherukka]

I’ve used it now for about a year but it is as you say, a bit of a leap of faith.

[@evieemaya88]

Hiw are you finding the product mate?

[@johnmelling9950]

I asked Pete from Bilt Hamber quite a few questions regarding this product. He said in exposed areas it will wash off fairly quickly and is not designed to be a long lasting product and needs to be reapplied regularly. it's more for quick corrosion prevention, say after driving on wet roads and then putting the car into storage. However, if you can get it into box sections and enclosed areas the protection will be longer lasting. I have a classic car and have this mixed in a big 6lt pressure sprayer and spray all the sills and known problem areas regularly during the winter months. With a 6lt sprayer you can also stick the lance under the car and treat the floorplan without having to get underneath. I believe 'migratory' is more to do with how the inhibitor can travel rather thanit penetrating the metal. Pete also said that the product will help slow corrosion that's already started and will also stop bare alloy from oxidizing.

[@ForensicDetailing]

sounds spot on.. so yer its not like a miracle rust cure thing.. Its like a water based inhibitor that you could use every wash if you wanted to.. I tend to bust it out every few months..

[@johanslecht2636]

thanks for the movie. I also use this product, at first little to no result and still rust on the disc. My experience is that the more you use this product the better it will work, it actually penetrates the brake disc. For best effect, spray directly as soon as you have cleaned the rim, so do not continue with the other rims first.

[@ForensicDetailing]

yer it cant cure rust but if you have mint discs for example it can help stop the rust forming. Im not sure how essential it is but I always keep some.

[@johanslecht2636]

@@ForensicDetailing yes indeed, it prevents the wet brake disc from getting rusty. I always had that problem. One drive and everything brown with rust, looked awful. So now solved with this product. but at first it didn't do much on my brake disc, now that I've been using it longer it's perfect, it will really penetrate the metal apparently.

[@nadeembutt1966]

Bought a bottle and I’m spraying it regularly onto the leaf suspension and various other bits on my pickup truck.

[@PropDeskJunkie]

Just ordered some from The Clean Garage here in the US. Burr, -21F today just north of Chicago. Great channel.

[@benhorne3926]

I know this would be a hard product to test. But would it be possible to put bits of metal in water/salty water, something to accelerate rust with both treated and untreated bits of metal and see if one rusts more than the other. Would be interesting to see if it's worthwhile product to use

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes, I will do it. just need some mild steel test sheets and it may well be one of those things that I put off but I will dip one mild steel in the solution and leave one untreated and stick them outside for a few months.

[@archjuh]

Somewhat easy way to check it is spray it on your brake discs after rinsing them off and seeing how much you get rusting compared to an untreated brake disc. I have tried this and it doesn't totally prevent the oxidation on the discs you get light rusting on the surface compared to a slightly more darker rusting on untreated surface.

[@benhorne3926]

Cheers Jon look forward to it, thanks

[@JohnPerez-fn2ok]

@@ForensicDetailing a test similar to this one. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3umgmOOaqpof8k Would you do a test for both products? Since getting atom is difficult in the US and AMMO difficult in the UK it would give options in different parts of the world

[@youbencowell]

Spraying on brake discs does prevent corrosion. I've had a bottle of this for a few months. Of course you have to reapply after every wash!

[@richardseem7948]

not boring when u tell the truth...its truly funny the way guys from on the other side of pond talks...worst than me bring from N.Y.. lol.great video.

[@AnthonyJones-vk6xq]

Since i stumbled across your channel, you have introduced me to a whole new range of superb products, the most notably being anything in the Bilt Hamber range. Enjoy your videos, many thanks for sharing your expertise, next step for me is a DA polisher !! Regards from the South West of France.

[@ForensicDetailing]

merci anthony. where abouts in the south of france are you?

[@davidhopley9361]

Sounds perfect for motorbikes

[@anarky277]

Well done was hoping somebody would spell out the potential of this.

[@richlee509]

He is bloody good this guy

[@Howster69]

Bilt Hamber said that it’s okay to put this in a Snow Foam Bottle and apply it to the bodywork. So it can seep into areas you can’t protect then rinse off. 👍🏻

[@jeyomcnugget9584]

Oh? This is brilliant If true, can you use qd over the top after rinsing?

[@dennisthemenance5433]

WE here in Wi. using Salt to Clear our Snow and icy Streets and for saftey reasons? Can Belong ot a Full Service Car wash that offers a Monthly membership ( usually btwn 425-435 mo) and can wash our Vehicles every day, but usually EOD =4x wk in our Winter months of 4 mos yr and 2-3x week the rest of the time.. After Ceramic Coating them in Spring and again in the Late Fall Using Spray Wax ( Turtles or McQuires) on the car and Windshield and don't bother to wipe it off either.. and many of us Have a Winter and a Summer Vehicle is common..Come November? Time to Put our Summer vehicles away for storage and get our Winter Vehicles out..usually 4WD SUV's to P.Up trucks ..

[@jasonfrance4927]

Surface sheild blater mix with fluid film spray in cavities and it creeps and lasts along time

[@sccarguy]

I’ve used this on my Corvette for years no rust yet!

[@DIYDad1]

$50 USD here for a pint. Crazy expensive here in the states I wish it was more readily available because these sure are great products!

[@ForensicDetailing]

when you cant get the value from a product you do loose a big chunk of the reason to buy it. who is charging 50 dollars for it buy the way.

[@DIYDad1]

@@ForensicDetailing this is on amazon. I’m seeing other detailing sites charging $40. + shipping so it ends up being about the same either way. I still might have to pick some up though. With as much salt as they put on the roads around here it is probably worth the premium. Great videos as always!

[@willis8281]

This product would be perfect for people using motorbikes to commute. I destroyed the value of my bike, within 3 years it looked over 10 years old from all the corrosion.

[@martec06]

If/when you do a real test of this. You should also test the different mixing ratio 1% 2% 3% and so on.

[@leonmovrin2205]

1. Do you recommend any other item? 2. We should remove the rust before, or just over rust and everything spray it on?

[@ForensicDetailing]

This is not a rust remover.. this just stops things prone to rusting from starting

[@leonmovrin2205]

@@ForensicDetailing so if there is already a little rust. Is good idea to put that on?

[@ForensicDetailing]

they have a rust convertor called hydrate 80 I think it is. its a bit like Kurust but better.

[@leonmovrin2205]

@@ForensicDetailing but don’t understand now. Which product then use?

[@ForensicDetailing]

so if you want to convert rust or treat rust. you can use hydrate 80. but if you wash a car and you want to inhibit the rust from forming you can plaster it in Atom mac. rust treatment and rust prevention are sort of different. treatment converts the iron oxide to an alternative oxide. prevention, transfers a cationic water based inhibitor into the steel or iron and it inhibits the formation of the oxide.

[@michaelmcfarlane8199]

What's Bilt Hambers rust treatment product? Stone chips on the bonnet have turned to unsightly rust. Very short term fix is fallout remover and the ideal solution is a new paint job but there is surely a product available to treat rust. Hammerite Kurust turns things blue so that's not ideal.

[@changounchained2648]

I have brand new cross drilled 2 piece rotors and bare unpainted calipers...could I mix this up in say a 10-20% and soak them for a day before painting the caliper and installing both items?

[@ForensicDetailing]

I wouldnt do that Chango. Its not designed for pre-paint treatment no. I would use an appropriate primer. off the top of my head I think some of the high temp caliber paints that come in rattle cans do offer a high temp primer. You would use this product after washing your car to inhibit corrossion on the rotors. Ill give you a huge tip. Some wash detergents (prewashes and shampoo's) actually promote oxsidisation and therefore rusting. And actually some of the safest mildest shampoo for paintwork cleaning, will light up your rotors like a christmas tree and trigger rust forming. Use bilt hamber auto foam to prewash your rotors and brake calipers and it will inhibit rust. I will show you this soon in a video on snow foams. In factor generally speaking if you hate rust, there is no better company whos products you should be using anywhere on earth better than bilt hamber for this. so prewash with auto foam. contact was with auto wash. And spray the rotors with Atomax at the recomended concentration and dry off excess (air brow is elite for this). its a real hard battle to win keeping your rotors and calipers rust free. I had already lost that battle with the 140 because it was bought second had with crusty discs. once your new components are installed you can then try and win the battle of the crusty rust :) But the bad news is it just takes one hit with the wrong typre of detergent on brake discs to trigger it. of coarse its not a problem on the flat bit the brake pad will clear off but its all around the edges and the hub sections and the brake caliper itself when its unpainted. on my gold they look mega crap all covered in surface rust.

[@paulcarpenter4215]

I love Bilt Hamber stuff. My only concern is that on any car over a couple of years old or not recently restored, it’s likely to be too late. This winter I will be having the panels off my old Rover P6 and will be using the Bilt Hamber wax products on all the wheel arches, underside and hidden panels. I may take a look at my newer cars to se if they are suitable for a product of this type. If it’s Bilt Hamber, you know it’s good.

[@ForensicDetailing]

possibly mate. If components have rust on them then this product cannot sort that, although Im guessing they will still help stop it spreading. so yer ideally a new car where all the ferrous components are not corroded is the dream scenario. But its so damn cheap and quick to apply. maybe its something thats worth having and using even on older cars. Not sure, but the fact its so damn cheap means it wont cost a lot to find out.

[@dalydetailz2120]

Great for motorcycle detailing

[@markbuck4]

Can this be used on hot surfaces like motorcycle engines a bit like acf50 spray cans etc great video would like see a few motorcycle detailing if possible (information or products which are suitable for detailing motorcycles etc) I also do lots diy car detailing using a lot of bilt hamber products and other items you use on you blog keep up the good work job thanks mark21

[@JamesLS3]

Any chance I can get this in the states?!!? HUGE fan of yours. I own a detailing shop in NY and consider you the goto for products.

[@ForensicDetailing]

Ive suggested something to Bilt Hamber will see if anything can come of it.

[@koigifts8356]

What would be the best way to rid of the rust and then use this to control it

[@p8rdm]

Do you think it’s ok to make up say a litre of this and keep it on the shelf to use when needed

[@NikosKatsikanis]

what happens if you drink it undiluted?

[@jaystarmini]

could be better value than acf50 that the bike guys would use if it holds up to the bad weather. i like gt85 spray or scotoiler 365 but running low in it

[@ForensicDetailing]

it will be a hell of a lot cheaper for sure. but its kind of a different product to gt85 and acf50, they are sort of aerosol lubricates / treatment systems. I use gt85 on the bike a lot as well.

[@raydavison2972]

The problem I see with this is that it's only useful with new stuff as give the underside of a car a couple of years (Even one year) and it's too late. ACF50 is the business. You can buy it in a a bulk bottle rather aerosol and stick it in a trigger spray or pump bottle. It is expensive mind but is truly effective. 365 is is a total waste of time as far as long term protection is concerned as is GT85.

[@killacamfoo]

Really wish they imported to the USA! Impossible to find here!

[@BrianW1612]

I am sure they do as seen a few American channels reviewing auto foam!

[@moneyparhar]

Dude u can use like any lubricant spray like white grease that comes in cane and u can spray on chassis frame and on suspension plus u can spray inside of door frame bcz that's where lot of water collects and rust begin and plus u can use petroleum jelly or any mineral oil and baby oil just put in spray bottle and spray good amount before winter and every year treat ur vehicle well and wash underneath of vehicle

[@SoMeyou]

I'm thinking of using this product in my pressure washer and spraying it under my truck. Bad?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Hard to hit pir requirements

[@Clifficantsleep]

Great stuff jon.i bought atom Mac when I did my last shop.

[@onemanturk]

Thank you for this video! Silly question, but once i am done spraying and i have like 800ml left in my bottle and store it in my garage, is that okay, like does its effectiveness die down as time goes on? Or am i okay making a large mixture and storing it

[@ForensicDetailing]

your fine mixing it out and storing it

[@brad2807]

What’s the difference between this and the bilt hamber hydrate 80 Jon ? Is just that hydrate is the newer version?

[@bendude6748]

does anyone have any recommendation of what would be a good product to protect my paintwork over the winter? I don't care about it looking amazing, its a 10 year old car I just want to try and protect against rust as much as I can with all the salt on the roads over winter. Oh and something that doesn't take forever to apply would be good if thats possible

[@ForensicDetailing]

this.

[@cgttc0441]

I have wanted to try many bilt hamber products, Living on the coast I’ve especially wanted the rust inhibitors. Are there distributors in the USA?

[@ForensicDetailing]

hi ya if your in the USA try clean-garage.com/bilt-hamber/

[@deemdoubleu]

Has anyone used this - instructions are to apply after every wash - how is this easy or convenient if applying to underside of vehicle?

[@whos-your-mate]

How long after you've applied this would you drive the car on wet roads?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Can go straight away.

[@vinceking7878]

Do you need to rinse it off? Will it affect adherence of paint or underseal?

[@ForensicDetailing]

rinse off excess yes the rust inhibitors are cationic I believe so they are drawn to the ferrous components and do their thing.

[@benkneisley3001]

Application? Spray and walk away?

[@ForensicDetailing]

yes just spray onto the farrous components. you can dry off any excess with a towel or air. say your doing calipers and brakes spray on. leave it for 5 mins and then dry if you want to.

[@khalilrazak6486]

Hey John, which Bilt Hamber rust converter do I use before using this as I have existing surface rust. Thank's

[@ForensicDetailing]

I don't know m8 depnds on what your going deox could be it. Contact BH with some pics.

[@andrewsproson1410]

I am looking into Lanoguard or anything else such at Bill Hamber products that gives under body protection from salty winter roads.I used Waxoyl 20 years ago and tested it on bare metal left outside.Lasted about 12 months.

[@AllenMaestas]

Sure love your videos. I’d love to just sit in your garage drink some beers. I’m hoping I can get this product in the US.

[@tonymontana897]

Hey John. What a fantastic product idea. This is something that I have hoped would come around as I am very fussy about the underside of my cars too and could never think of any thing to use to keep all the metal work bright and new looking. Do you have any idea how long it lasts ? Here in Australia we are so crippled in being able to purchase fine products you recommend. It seems that you have to live in either the U.K, U.S or Canada to get access to good products. So frustrating. Even the rag company won't send washing related products because of some stupid "chemical" prohibition B.S. Arggh !!

[@akumass1]

Hi John where I’ve used decon shampoo my brake discs centres have rusty ridges. Any thoughts on removing and protecting against rust moving forwards. Obviously where the pads touch the discs during braking it clears itself?

[@ForensicDetailing]

this is more because brake disc manuafacturers dont want to pay to put proper paint on the edges and hub sections, they either put nothing or a cheap heat proof primer paint that the rust corrodes through. so if you want to go hard core mode take the wheel off and sand off the rust, treat it, and paint it properly with VHT primers and top coat. After this use surfex HD to clean and after finishing cleaning treat with atom mac. but its a LOT of hassel. I just tend to accept most rotors will rust a bit.

[@akumass1]

Ok yeah hear I that, I’ve already got several hours of holograms to polish off. Typically I only have a 4 spoke minimal alloy so it’s especially annoying. Thank you for the tips.

[@sanscipher]

I really like those videos, but a bit more hands-on would be nice, and for products that are new, definitely some testing is needed. Showing some use cases instead of just talking about them would be of great value, I think...

[@michaeldeluca9306]

Thanks Jon, I’ll be using this in my trucks wheel wells. How often should you be using it?

[@stevenmcconaghie8736]

Bought this a couple of wks ago Used it a couple of days ago mixed it with water as per manufacturer recommendations but it doesn’t seem right It seems to have separated into white bits Is this correct Jon Sprayed it on brakes etc so we will see how it does

[@ForensicDetailing]

hard for me to say but that doesnt sounds right to me that or at least mine has not done that. I would speak to bit hamber..

[@Jonnym96]

What is the difference between this and dynax? I just coated the whole underneath of my dads Toyota avensis with dynax. Dynax was very messy especially when the car was on axle stands and not having much room.

[@archjuh]

dynax is more like a "wax" for bare metal or painted surfaces meaning you get a layer of product on top of the surface where as atom mac migrates into the metal and works as a chemical agent to prevent rusting instead of physical barrier.

[@Jonnym96]

archjuh okay thanks that makes sense 😀

[@ForensicDetailing]

dynax is a wax.. So i think its like to put a protective layer to stop the water and air getting to components to stop them rusting. This is just a water based product you can spray on things and the rust inhibitors go into the ferrous component to protect it.

[@stackenali7059]

How does it compare with Fluid Film (linseed based)? I've used it on my 22+ year old truck and the underside still looks new-ish.

[@ForensicDetailing]

its sort of different chemically. at least this is a water based concentrate. fluid film looks like its a lubricant and rust preventer in one which usually means its got mineral oil or something in it. I think at least not too sure.

[@Starmixologist]

Fluid Film is lanolin not linseed based. FF is another beast one of the best oils for preventing and stoping rust on older cars, but it is greasy.

[@audiguypaul6004]

How do you thinks this compares to ACF50

[@thecallumcat]

Hey I’ve just sorted my dull headlights and was wondering what uv sealant I should use to stop them going dull again Can’t seem to find anything or know really what to use??????

[@ForensicDetailing]

yo callum, you local motor factor shop will sell a clear with UV protection in it thats totally suitable I would ask for a 2 pac urethain one with UV protection in it tell them its for headlights. some of the head kits out there also sell clear in the kit like meguiars for example.

[@thecallumcat]

Forensic Detailing Channel thanks for the reply I will try and get the clear with uv protection and I take it you mean a lacquer? If not a will get a kit as have seen the uv gel they provide. I take it they don’t sell it separate or a similar product. Love the videos keep it up they made me get a DA and with the help from your beginner guide and other videos I would say the results speak for them selfs

[@ForensicDetailing]

@@thecallumcat thanks callum yes mate laquer in a rattle can.. halfords will do one as well but you get better advice in the local factor shops that mix up paint as well.

[@thecallumcat]

Forensic Detailing Channel legend as always will get down there in the morning

[@alim9489]

Hmmm interesting. How would this compare to Hyde's Serum Rustopper for preventing flash rust to brake discs, if used after every wash?

[@ForensicDetailing]

hey Ali, looks like a very similiar product. without being disrespectfull to hyde, you are paying 13.95 for 500ml of the hyde product at a ready to use concentration.. With Atom mac you can pay 14.95 and get around 10 litres, (500ml will cost you around 75p versus hydes 13.95) So the Hyde product is about 20 times more expensive. I talked about this value for money in the video. This is why BH are cool.

[@alim9489]

Thanks for your reply. I have been using Hydes but even after loads of product there is still flash rusting on the notorious BMW brake discs. I don't fancy turning my car on and off for brief periods especially in the winter and going back and forth to dry the brake discs. So hopefully this product will be helpful and a ton cheaper. Thanks again

[@robertdoyle1624]

Dont BH also have a rust inhibitor in their shampoo also

[@ForensicDetailing]

they do, their whole range is quite rust conscious avoiding anything caustic but the products are still very potent. the shampoo probably contains tiny amounts though, this product is probably just pure rust inhibtor judging by how they get you to dilute it.

[@altypeRR]

I’m guessing this is very similar to ACF50 in the way it works?

[@richardcollins586]

altypeRR interesting question, I would say this product is more water based and probably easier to apply. ACF50 you have heat up before you apply, especially through a spray gun on a compressor. I’ll get this product and give it a go, as I’m a car driver, though my passion is motorbikes and this time of year it’s winter prep time for the bike. With ACF50 you can’t use it on brake discs, though this product you can.

[@keithmelling8530]

Is there any bilt hamber products i could use to combat surface rusting on the exhaust system(ie back box to middle box and pipes,joins) cheers Jon

[@ForensicDetailing]

not really mate if its mild steel its going to corrode. you can treat that corrosion with bilt hamber products but I dont think you can ever stop it unless you paint it or go stainless.

[@keithmelling8530]

@@ForensicDetailing ok thanks Jon

[@btbd2785]

Have you used their UC SORAYEAYX or there electro coat product?

[@ForensicDetailing]

No m8 soz

[@johnales79]

Keen to give it a go, but I feel ACF50 is the best for this purpose

[@thegolfdiaries1123]

Swear by this on the old Rivage

[@moneyparhar]

u can use like any lubricant spray like white grease that comes in cane and u can spray on chassis frame and on suspension plus u can spray inside of door frame bcz that's where lot of water collects and rust begin and plus u can use petroleum jelly or any mineral oil and baby oil just put in spray bottle and spray good amount before winter and every year treat ur vehicle well and wash underneath of vehicle and never use the undercoating on ur vehicle bcz its holds moisture and that creates rust

[@peterwood2633]

How credible are the anticorrosive features? I don't doubt bilt hamber as use their autowash which is the best snow foam I've found for actually working and not just looking nice

[@car_junkie]

Anyone know where to get these products from Bilt Hamber in the USA? I've seen them on eBay but usually been pretty expensive...

[@ForensicDetailing]

try rubbishboyz wax store if its still running car junkie. they really need to get a proper US distributor sorted. Ill speak to BH and see if I can get something going.

[@will21]

@@ForensicDetailing ask then to sell to Canada as well...do you know of any other similar product like this from another brand? Maybe use a zinc spray like Krud Kutter The Must For Rust Remover Gel ?

[@maxburg4817]

Jon, will you be testing the new DA from Lake Country - UDOS ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

If I can get my greasy hands on it then I will happily review it. dont think it will be out for a while though Max.

[@robertdoyle1624]

I emailed re how long it lasts they advised reapply every time you wash your car that makes it a bit more expensive

[@mrib8159]

Well, it is water based after all. First down pour or a drive through a puddle and there goes the protection. Much better/longer lasting products on the market and not much harder to apply.

[@ForensicDetailing]

@@mrib8159 state them please. not because Im not saying they are better or worse but it just lets people know other alternatives which is always really healthy. but please make sure they are like for like alternatives and not like a rust over coat or sealant or convertor (like I say BH have a whole range of rust related products,).. In terms of it being water based. the water is just the carrier. The rust inhibitors transfer to the ferrous components. I dont use this every wash. more like every 8 washes but thats just how I use it.

[@robertdoyle1624]

@@mrib8159 Not necessarily water based paints dont wash off in the rain

[@FFPThomas]

Got that, and sold cause it was poor... doesn't work as they say

[@bob6916]

Can you review the best rust treatment product you have used plz

[@JohnPerez-fn2ok]

How will this compare to AMMO Boost winter wash?

[@archjuh]

Not sure I would compare them as boost would be used while washing your car and protecting your paint. Where as this product would be sprayed on surfaces where you would not normally get to like brake calibers/discs or underside of the car and wheel wells.

[@JohnPerez-fn2ok]

@@archjuh you can use both products almost the same way but boost cuts a step by mixing it with your car soap and not having to rinse twice

[@ForensicDetailing]

very different products really john, bilt hamber also have some corrosion inhibutors in their shampoo. but this is a highly concentrated rust inhibitor with no detergent so you dont wash the car with this, you just spray it onto ferrous components to protect them

[@JohnPerez-fn2ok]

@@ForensicDetailing I agree with you that the bilt Hamber product is different but if I can't buy it. It doesn't matter. I want to know if the AMMO works at all.

[@muhummedahmed1818]

What would you say about auto smart products.

[@richlee509]

Crap

[@Steveh1066]

My brake disk hubs have got a very light surface rust on (cars a year old) I reckon it would come off with a light sand, do you think this stuff would keep the rust at bay for something that gets so hot? I’m going to put the winter wheels on soon so would be a good opportunity to do it. I was thinking about painting them.

[@ForensicDetailing]

thats kind of the main reason I bought it steve. the problem is I personally think to file off rust on the outer edge of brakes is a step too far for me personally. (ive thought about it though lol) but thats really show car stuff isnt it. but certainly for the hubs its working.

[@Steveh1066]

Forensic Detailing Channel think I’ll get some and get some paint also as it all depends on how much of a good job I do sanding them down. 😂. Thanks.

[@jasonfrance4927]

Dynex uc is long term

[@aneesmohamedazarudeen6394]

Can I Use this in Discs and disc hub ?

[@ForensicDetailing]

Yes m8

[@TonyCiobanu]

Did nothing to my car

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

I would pay £50 for an annual splash

[@martin05916]

Their shampoo contains some of this too.

[@XTL_prime]

Source?

[@martin05916]

Bilt Hamber's website.

[@richardhurr31]

Struggling with a cold there, Jon?

[@Audittr2108]

Is there anything that Bilthamber make that isn’t top notch?! I got a bottle of this when it first came out earlier this year. I still haven’t used the first litre I mixed up.

[@ForensicDetailing]

not really chris :) although I wish their cleanser fluid was a lot cheaper.. apart from that I love the price and I love how they approach formulating this stuff. they just take the best product on the market and build something they can prove in testing outperforms it.. and then they sell that for a reasonable price. no bling but their stuff always rocks.

[@chrischambers4291]

Can I wash my car in this

[@ForensicDetailing]

no mate

[@high-defdetail726]

Ever try AMMO Boost?

[@jamesjones8720]

High-Def Detail 😂

[@marioskosmidhs9454]

First!!!!!!.Gongrats dear sir.keep up

[@tony.775]

You were struggling to find a name for what this product is Jon. The Eng term would be Rust inhibitor”. You did mention that in with others. A question was put to BH guy last year and asked what he thought was his best recommended product. Answer was this one!

[@ForensicDetailing]

1:01 :) I got it right tats :)

[@mikeormond7883]

Acf 50

[@sebastianb5036]

Question: I recently spent an hour cleaning my wheels before washing my car. Since I gave it a rinse with demineralised water I wasn't very thorough on drying the wheels. When I drove my car home I noticed a huge mess on my front wheels. It rubbed off all the corrosion which occurs within an hour after cleaning my wheels on the brake discs. It rubbed off and made a huge mess with the water what was still inside the barrel of the wheel. Can this shampoo prevent my brake discs from rusting immideatly after washing? This would be a reason to buy it over the geyon bath essence. If not so, does anyone know a product which is save on the brakes that prevents rust? Stumpled across Hyde's Rustopper but I want something similar I can buy in Europe without a hassle.

[@ForensicDetailing]

a lot of PH neutral soaps will trigger corrosion and oxsidation in steel. the industry wont like me telling you this but its true. An alkaline pre wash and an alkaline shampoo will actually inhibit corrosion (have a watch of "the best snow foam video" to see this). If you care abour rust and corrosion. then there is no brand better than bilt hamber. They got started in car products with their rust treatment products. Yes bilt hamber can stop brake rotors or disc coroding. However if your spraying or using a product on the brake discs that triggers oxidsation and corrosion. a water based rust inhibitor might not be strong enough to stop it (it will help though)... In short. Use auto foam , auto wash, and surfex HD to clean your car. Surfex HD as a wheel cleaner is cool (see video I have coming soon). note fallout removers will light up brake discs with rust oxidation etc...

[@brettus9115]

Atom Mac = Mack Tuna oil ie: fish oil. Lol

[@717Jeepin]

You can spell foreskin with your name

[@8803surri]

Nobody has come up with anything like this...maybe a gimmick?

[@JohnPerez-fn2ok]

There's another one from USA called AMMO Boost winter wash

[@archjuh]

Not exactly the same but it's similar to any other rust proofing product but with slightly different application method.

[@ForensicDetailing]

BH really dont do gimmicks. The foundation of their products started with rust prevention products and grew from there industrial rust prevention and bodyshop rust treatment and rust protection. the detergents and wash products came later.

[@youbencowell]

I've been using this for a few months, spraying it on my old car and on brake discs after washing. It does genuinely work!

[@8803surri]

Purchased some myself now....🤞