PTW #97 - Dr. Orion Taraban - Understanding Value in Relationships

In January 2024, Dr. Orion Taraban, from the Psych Hacks KZbin channel, spoke at my 1% Forum event in Toronto, and gave this 1 hour talk which simplified the sexual marketplace, in terms of sailing, to help you understand value in relationships. If you want to watch the other talks from the event, get on my email list and they will be sent to you for free: entrepreneursincars.com/red-f...
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In January 2024, Dr. Orion Taraban, from the Psych Hacks KZbin channel, spoke at my 1% Forum event in Toronto, and gave this 1 hour talk which simplified the sexual marketplace, in terms of sailing, to help you understand value in relationships. If you want to watch the other talks from the event, get on my email list and they will be sent to you for free: entrepreneursincars.com/red-flags/

[@abiodunokunrinboye4338]

Just to mention around 5 or 6 seconds into the video you say January 2025 instead of 2024. Just wanted to bring that to your attention.

[@spaceork6973]

He’s in the future

[@marguskiis7711]

All the Red Pill scene is just pathetic. Ok, for example, I despise dogs a lot. A lot. And I mean it. BUT. Do I write all over the internet how disgusting the dogs are? No. Bc it just pointless. I just avoid dogs and thats it.

[@ackbuilder8262]

Men are in love, women are in business. Men value love, women love value. Great show.

[@jinnantonix4570]

The most interesting part of this presentation is at the very end, where Orion reveals that the male passenger has only one thing to trade, and that is exclusivity. That is why female captains (and there are many today) eject their male passengers, because every male passenger can offer exclusivity, so it is worthless. In a competitive sexual marketplace they have nothing of real value to trade. Hence 50% divorce rate, initiated by 80% of women.

[@Bag664]

💯 👏

[@marguskiis7711]

Whine on. Its just totally pointless.

[@Savvynomad225]

@@jinnantonix4570female captains are one of two things, unattractive or ineffective

[@jinnantonix4570]

@@Savvynomad225 female captains may be both attractive and effective, but then they will almost always sabotage themselves due to hypergamy. They will stop wanting to be a captain, and want to be a passenger, but only with a more attractive and more competent captain, who is rare and unlikely to want to offer her exclusivity.

[@jameskamotho7513]

The ship captain analogy is the best thing Orion developed imho. Everyone understands it...

[@llittlegreyhound]

I've said it again and I'll keep saying it loud, Dr Orion is a ray of light for people who have lost themselves in the modern BS that society feeds men.

[@mrard1]

Agreed!

[@Savvynomad225]

Modern society feeds everyone BS because it sells and gets clicks. The men are fed doom and gloom about women and women are fed the same about men

[@marguskiis7711]

All the Red Pill scene is just pathetic. Ok, for example, I despise dogs a lot. A lot. And I mean it. BUT. Do I write all over the internet how disgusting the dogs are? No. Bc it just pointless. I just avoid dogs and thats it.

[@Savvynomad225]

@@marguskiis7711 apples and oranges. Do you have to work with dogs, do they vote? Can they make it so you get in trouble with the law if you say hi to one?

[@marguskiis7711]

@@Savvynomad225 Dogs can easily kill you literally btw. I my country there has been several fatal attacks within last 5 years.

[@mightymatt8548]

Relationships between men and woman used to mainly be about "how are we going surviving". Now they're about "how are going to have fun surviving".

[@starguy2718]

From a talk in January 2025... Rich, do you own a time machine? 😄😄😄

[@davidavalos4256]

Orion is one of the few voices coming from the “manosphere” that provide a rational approach to navigating the dating world and life in general.

[@comicallaugh]

Orion, great to see you and Rich come together. I am a fan of both your and Rich's channels!

[@marguskiis7711]

Orion just is about to cash in from the Red Pill jerks. But I believe, Ralph really hates the women a lot.

[@just_alexk]

This talk has opened my eyes to so much. My life will definitely change for the better. I can’t believe how stupid I was (have been) for not selling myself out there…for not showing others what I can do……for not showing my value. Thank you sir!!! Wow!!

[@DoctaJonesDoctaJones]

Orion is brilliant! Thanks Rich for introducing and showcasing him to the community.

[@marguskiis7711]

He is sometimes, but usually he is a Red Pill sellout.

[@goldenremnant2610]

@@marguskiis7711 Example?

[@SKBottom]

I'm really glad these two have connected. I've always considered them fellow travelers.

[@marguskiis7711]

The bearded guy genuinly despises women in general. Pure and sheer hate. Orion is just cashing in from Red Pill morons.

[@alexrusso7517]

Are you a… fellow traveler ?

[@marguskiis7711]

All the Red Pill scene is just pathetic. Ok, for example, I despise dogs a lot. A lot. And I mean it. BUT. Do I write all over the internet how disgusting the dogs are? No. Bc it just pointless. I just avoid dogs and thats it.

[@bigbob4621]

Thank you. Now I finally understand where I f'd up. Too bad it took 50+ years and 2 divorces. However there is peace in understanding.

[@BlakeMorarGroup]

The good news is….you aren’t dead! Still plenty of life to live, now go live it wisely.

[@dordtrecht5]

I, too, have multiple failed relationships and marriages. I’ve grown weary. I know I f’d up.

[@aygwm]

Orion is one of the greatest thinkers of our generation

[@marguskiis7711]

Too much Red Pill crap.

[@matthewbowers6178]

Thats an egregious overstatement but i do like him!

[@shinymew2887]

@@matthewbowers6178who’s winning right now?

[@brandondoss1151]

​@marguskiis7711 I think he is more balanced than red pill.

[@marguskiis7711]

​@@brandondoss1151 Orion is just a quasy Red Pill, he just is cashing in from the RP losers. As an ukrainian jew by decent, he is clever like hell. Actually he is very wise when he is genuine.

[@rogerblakely7453]

"In the vast majority of marriages men are not the ones in power." We need to get this into our heads.

[@josephhorswell4839]

We need to change the power imbalance, put men 1st, & put women in their place.

[@lordofthestrings_heritage]

This is top notch quality. Orion Taraban is brilliant.

[@billthebutcher6873]

Yes, its called "A CONFLICT OF INTEREST" the saying has been around for over 100 years

[@WhatShallEyeDo4U]

I follow both channels. So much overlap when talking about relationships and the differences between men and women. This is going to be good!

[@marguskiis7711]

Orion just is about to cash in from the Red Pill jerks. But I believe, Ralph really hates the women a lot.

[@shinymew2887]

@@marguskiis7711you’re so mad that you’re physically sick. I love it.

[@marguskiis7711]

​@@shinymew2887 i am ok and happy.

[@mw66683]

Excellent use of analogies to deliver relationship clarity.

[@nisenor5059]

Great collaboration, Rich. I appreciate both you and the doc for doing what you do. Cheers brother 👍

[@superfleapilot7484]

This was EXCELLENT Rich. I was already sorry I missed your conference, now it’s clear just how much I missed! You snooze you loose brothers.

[@benoplavunilkunathil1408]

Thanks for putting out this gem. Keep up the great work!

[@Codikas]

This is my favourite of all of your shows rich, huge value in every one of these episodes. Thanks.

[@billy5077]

This guy put out amazing content

[@marguskiis7711]

Too much Red Pill crap.

[@cameron339]

Versus?​@@marguskiis7711

[@dawnfmEnthusiast]

Orion is a such a gentleman. Appreciate the beginning few moments.

[@thechriswrobelexperience1809]

Really appreciate the great video rich!

[@MrSears_1.618]

As a former Navy man, I approve of this message.

[@HedgeFundCIO]

Orion is a straight up honorable man. You can hear the integrity.

[@marguskiis7711]

Orion just is about to cash in from the Red Pill jerks. But I believe, Ralph really hates the women a lot.

[@jameskamotho7513]

​@@marguskiis7711Don't you have work to other than commenting on all posts?

[@TantraJames]

I would think female captains want male captains, not male passengers.

[@BC-kv8mg]

It's very unusual for someone to sustain a metaphor for a whole hour!...

[@Carlos_Arizmendi]

Great show Rich. Dr Taraban is top G

[@TheTrinirocker]

I love this , can't wait

[@stevec3526]

This so deep I will have to listen a few times.

[@ItalNico]

Hard hitting truths here. Thank you for sharing.

[@boxerfit-fitnesspersonaltr6151]

This is great, my two favourite channels collaborating!

[@whocarescrapsa]

Thank you, Richard for bringing Orion on. This was very useful.

[@paolocosmo6310]

I could listen to this guy for hours-very insightful!

[@patrickgillin6879]

Finally! Content from the future 😮

[@loseerich493]

Phenomenal session. Thanks Rich for posting this up.

[@demven04]

Just mind-blowing! Literally and figuratively, Orion Taraban is the king of metaphors

[@stevefleetwood7840]

Great work here Rich!

[@jeanluc.nguyen]

The best and realest talk I've heard so far about male/female dynamics

[@Voltaire7]

This is amazing, the two guys, and the only two guys, I listen to about relationships are both on this video. Well done gents. 👍

[@Sergeezie]

Psyhack storytelling and overall presentation in this was excellent

[@TheSunBlaster]

Brilliant lecture, thank you.

[@mrbabyears]

Another excellent vid.

[@vadzimpiuneu5954]

So good! Thank you for sharing!

[@WinstonCodesOn]

Being a captain is a stressful job. What does the captain receive as compensation for upkeeping that fascade 24/7?

[@zensvlognotapro]

Glad to see Dr. O in your show or speaking engagement Rich 👍

[@oooooooooooo2332]

Increible talk! If this does not open your eyes... you just were born blind.

[@benakin9172]

Amazing video and talk

[@dumisanisibanda7772]

Thanks Rich

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

2 major themes: (1) Not every man is going to be successful with women. Some men are just genetically low value passengers or beta's. (2) Because women have college degrees and high paying jobs their standards have increased. Most men are unable to satisfy a woman's hypergamy. Hence declining marriage/birth rates.

[@Lou2Fresh]

This is gold

[@Joe-grado]

This is so greate！

[@yazhouzu6789]

This is a very good talk

[@whocarescrapsa]

There are so many phony therapists out there. I just watched a podcast where a wife lied to her husband about her sexual history and waits until their child is born before she wants to free herself from the guilt. So predictable and common. Dr John Delony managed to find a way to make it the husbands fault. I could not believe the advice being given to women. What a clown. Dr Orion Taraban is fair to both sexes and has great analogies in explaining concepts. We need more women listening to him vs that clown.

[@marcoemiliovalle7708]

Delony is as blue pilled as they come. OT is the Real Deal, and extraordinarily insightful.

[@mediversehealing1576]

Very good!!

[@matthewnorris203]

More things like this, please!

[@ShriHemangBhaiBhatt]

Awesome ❤

[@wl6020]

It helps alot if a captain docks with a super yacht.

[@zabumbaman1828]

Orion for the win!

[@karenoyama8950]

I always enjoy listening to Dr Orion. All I can say, is, I am sure glad I was a passenger, and not a captain. Obviously it’s the easiest role. 😂

[@watuzi]

Great lecture, I learned a ton about SMV. If only I had a ship. All aboard ladies 😊

[@thebatman8895]

When a woman becomes a Captain, she will want an Admiral.

[@mdhazeldine]

The best content you've put out in months. I would actually be interested to hear you two debate some controversial topics. Especially if you hold different views. I'm sure you don't agree on everything.

[@atama01]

Wow…thanks Rich, worth your weight in gold

[@NANGSGARAGE]

Very good video 👍

[@Zero_Zero_Zero_Zero]

Feels like someone should tell Dr O that weirdos test drive cars for fun all the time, they even have a name for them in the car business. And,, shit tests literally exist to see if you are low self-esteem enough to tolerate shit tests.

[@gameslinger589]

Good talk

[@TornadoOfSouls777]

Man, I wish I would have heard this 30 years ago...

[@uncled078]

Extreme value

[@IndependentNewsMedia]

God bless.

[@alextreeman7964]

Perfect 🎉

[@arizona71189]

Orion is a sweet genius.

[@leebailey1220]

This is the best talk I've heard in all my years on the internet. Wow.

[@jace3504]

Dope.

[@waysofzen]

Excellent lecture... excuse me, I have to go build this ship!!

[@anonemus5174]

Fight against the lies and pressure. Take the Red pill.

[@arturosalazar4890]

2025 this one is from the future

[@RicksCafeAmericana]

Great content. Thank you. Why did The Great Gatsby keep popping in my mind during this talk. Jay Gatsby is an eternal thought in our evolutionary psychosis. Interestingly, my current relationship is somewhat antithetical to Orion’s SMV framework. But that is not to disagree with him. I just found a hack or to state it more aptly, an alternative universe.

[@rocstarang5747]

"Why?" Cracks me up everytime 😂

[@jmonval5628]

Richard, I respect all your work, cai I ask you.. what do you do in order to look younger? I mean, your skin is well care, so maybe you can advice or give tips about your daily routine, what you eat, train, vitamins.. Saludos from Mexico..

[@abbeylance29]

Men and women sat at the negotiations table, and someone signed a bad deal.

[@LPBensch]

This was the most comprehensive Orion talk yet. Extraordinary.

[@bossanova003]

Technology has facilitated for more 304s basically.

[@JesusGarcia-en3pj]

Greetings from the year 2024. What’s the future like?

[@JessieStolar]

The problem is the women can take half the ship😂

[@bwalsberg]

A scenario that was not discussed is when the woman thinks she is the Captain also (2 Captains). Thanks to girl power and feminism the flight attendant sometime believes she can fly the plane or thinks that she can plot a better course. So, she boards your ship (that you have spent 10 years to build) and at any moment can take half of your ship and your crew (the kids). I realize that many of the listeners are just building their ships and looking for a passenger. This is an exciting phase and your judgement will be clouded. Choose wisely.

[@nickgood8166]

Talk from 2025?

[@migueldds10]

Can you talk about how to Vet a woman? Traits that we should look for if we want a LTR?

[@whocarescrapsa]

That takes a min of 3 years even if you are experienced. You need to test the hell out of them. They are very good at putting on an act. They can do this for years but eventually get tired of acting. Only then you find the true person or monster. High stress situations...travel together and pretend you messed up the reservations and see how she acts. If she stays calm because she trusts that you will sort it out - you have a keeper. Very often you will see a dragon come out. When they ask you to be vulnerable...90% of the time they want ammo to use against you in the next fight. Make up fake insecurities and see if they are used against you. Very rare if they are not. Stay away from ones that need constant external validation. The moment you don't give it to them (a fight) - they are under another man who will. Good luck. I remember the days I wanted a LTR.

[@matthewbowers6178]

​@@whocarescrapsaTbis has been my exact experience and very well said

[@bwalsberg]

Go live with her parents (if they are even together) for 2 weeks. How her mother and father interact is exactly how she will behave.

[@migueldds10]

Are the videos of this event for sale? Would like to buy them. Thanks for the share Rich :)

[@sgtstadanko880]

"test the captain" Someone is going to be inspecting the life preserver equipment from over board on the stern side as well XD!!!

[@Kuk0san]

Orion's content is always solid but my only serious criticism here is that he needs to boil everything down to it's usefulness. I think he's used to using language that appears friendly to a female audience as well as a male audience so he can play both fields on his channel and in his practice. But if this is purely a men's conference, I think there were plenty of points he could've explained way simpler and to the point. You could tell the guys started joking around close to the end because they were getting bored, and all/majority of them probably already had experience with these concepts.

[@Stukkeman]

I’d change the analogy to: captains, crew and passengers…

[@fisayoadegoke2887]

Every man should watch this

[@user-zg7lz8ds8o]

The main thing that men must know now is that marriage has run its course. No need to bring the state into it. No cohabitation. No comingling. Get a reversible vasectomy. Retain independence and optionality.

[@whocarescrapsa]

Putting someone with a lower sex drive than you in charge of your sexual future and giving them the power to destroy you when it has never been easier to get intimacy does seem like a really daft thing to do.

[@evangorman4773]

YT has soooo many ads on this vid!!!

[@kathanmcmickerson1014]

VPN to india and pay $2 a month to save your life

[@ismaelhall3990]

goldmine

[@anyonymouscube]

Just say Ying Yang

[@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862]

The juice is not worth the squeeze