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@xKatjaxPurrsx3 жыл бұрын
I totally hate the 5th Gen FS Hobby laser. I support one of those at work and it's the most maintenance intensive machine and does really annoying things like cutting it's own air assist hose. We also have a FS 24x36 pro at work and it's great, although.. it didn't come with a built-in water flow sensor (instead relying on an external water alarm signal from a chiller) so I had to hack one in myself. Overall i'm happy with the mechanical build of the 24x36 pro. Retina engrave is awful though because you can't put cuts & engraves on at the sametime. At home I have a Shenhui SH-G350. (AKA 50W laser Ruida on ebay) I really like that machine! The linear motion system is built up like the FS Pro. All cables/air hoses are kept safe with a drag chain. I've hacked in a solid state relay to control the air assist pump automatically, which is a nice QOL upgrade for me. Also the machine is a lot less expensive (and in my opinion much better) than Full Spectrum's offerings. The software that comes with it RD Work lets you put engraves and cuts in the workspace at the same time, which i really like. On the downside the english translation of a lot of the options in RD Works is pretty difficult to decypher at times. A company called Lightburn has released basically a rebuild from scratch of RD Works that's much nicer to use and also allows you to do some of the camera-based tricks that you'd usually find on a Glowforge laser.
@Micah__3 жыл бұрын
“Look at that subtle off white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my God. It even has a watermark.”
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Hah!
@aprilblackregentart66473 жыл бұрын
As a graphic designer that often uses What the Font, I’m tickled to see you using it! 😆 I love replicating fonts on props
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It's so much fun!
@neilperry22243 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information as I'm an old graphic designer...i.e before computers. I draw my fonts out by hand but have updated my pc and I will use it from now on.
@brevs83873 жыл бұрын
@@neilperry2224 Recognizing typefaces was something that became a really obscure superpower early in my short career as a graphic designer. I learned from older guy who actually used to set metal (lead) type. Though, I felt better, later in life, when I forgot a lot of that stuff and was able to stop being such a stickler for type and layout (life is too short to be a "font nazi" unless you just have to be one).
@neilperry22243 жыл бұрын
I'm no font nazi or snob I'm actually enjoying using the modern fonts from the ole school graffiti artists. And ty again. Stay safe
@christobacon13 жыл бұрын
I was watching Adam Savage Hellboy Samaritan build and was screaming about that website when he looked for the text on the case
@MichaelTotin3 жыл бұрын
What the Font also has a mobile app that I have used a number of times now. It does the same thing as the website, but it also allows you to use your camera to identify a font. It's been super handy to me for replicating IDs, manuals, and prop inscriptions/etchings.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
That’s so handy!
@blizatrex3 жыл бұрын
Quite an interesting replication of the card. Laser cutters are so magical.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
So magical! =D
@xtianor3 жыл бұрын
just a couple of weeks ago i was trying the exact same thing. we actually end up engraving the letters and pouring silicone over it and using the silicone as the stamp. came out pretty good.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh that's a fantastic idea!
@funnytourtoise3 жыл бұрын
Look at that subtle off-white colouring, that tasteful thickness of it... Oh my god, it even has a watermark.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Ha! Nice. =)
@caseyzero3 жыл бұрын
Bill: "I'm not quite sure where it's from." Gigantic Watermark: "Am I a joke to you?"
@diogo.rodrigues.18843 жыл бұрын
I was screaming from the top of my lungs "you need to mirror the image!!!" when you were saying "ready to send to the laser cutter"
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
HA! I'm sure you weren't alone. =)
@tiffanysandmeier47533 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. Almost shouting, "it needs to be reversed!"
@matthewkapala92433 жыл бұрын
Neat project! It's cool to see the different trials and the progression to the final design.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It was nice to experiment a bunch.
@apollolux3 жыл бұрын
As someone who makes fonts and uses What The Font AND is a Highlander fan, I enjoyed this video very much! Also, glad someone pointed out the spelling error and you guys acknowledged it in the comments :)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to deny the power of a good font :)
@TheRealAlpha23 жыл бұрын
Dangit! I was just trying to learn the backpalm over the weekend, and here's yet another person making it look so smooth with a business card! Ah man, Highlander, though. Those were good times!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
The best times! I practiced card magic a lot when I was a bartender back in ~2005.
@WhiteysWickedWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
So simple and yet so good! LOVE IT!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JackOiswatching3 жыл бұрын
I've had success making stamps out of Delrin on my laser, the material engraves nicely and is pretty sturdy! I recommend looking into it if you need to stamp something in the future. Great vid!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh cool thanks!
@michaelneal31623 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh I remember that show. I must watch now.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
You must :)
@jacksat22523 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill, Thanks for the"Fonts" tip and Inkscape trick. I would love to see more of your Inkscape magic, I know there are a lot of them on YT but man that font trick. Maybe a tip back, try to stamp with a fine silicone mat under the paper instead of the cutting mat if you use MDF or other hard materials as a stamp, you will get a lot more detail.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! You might like our Premium Inkscape Tutorial - I go into a LOT of detail about the program and how to use it: www.punishedprops.com/shop/inkscape-video-tutorial/
@3rdEnemy3 жыл бұрын
Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh my god! It even has a watermark.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
HA! Nice.
@sqeric483 жыл бұрын
Love the shirt, Bill!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@RuxerHusky3 жыл бұрын
That stamped card looks wonderful! Good work :)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@danthemakerman3 жыл бұрын
The Balsa Wood stamp gave it an old timey print type of look, kind of like the stuff @jimmydiresta prints on his printing presses. Freekin lasers for the win!!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah totally!
@dodger01013 жыл бұрын
Bill take a tip from lithography put the paper on top of the MDF stamp and use the roller to press the paper onto the stamp.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip!
@SergeyChernyshev3 жыл бұрын
I watched the whole series multiple times. Might need to think of a prop I was to make now ;)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
heck yeah!
@SergeyChernyshev3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops I feel it’s going to be watchers field notes notebook leather cover
@MidnightMaker3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I actually applied to be a fight coordinator for the TV series...
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Whaaaaaaat that's so cool!
@Okami_Panda3 жыл бұрын
Laser cutters are so cool. Just can't afford one any time soon lol
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Someday!
@RexusKing3 жыл бұрын
What!? Highlander has a TV series!? Sorry Bill, your video can wait. I'm going to check out the TV series real quick.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah you're in for a treat!
@mikebanks50653 жыл бұрын
Glad to see others enjoyed the series I loved it but so many people I know don't rate it! Such a great continuation of the films, loved the prop you made would love to see you do it on a rubber stamp in the future!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@eastoforion3 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the punished props spin off show: Will It Stamp?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
HAH!
@fakermakerprops39483 жыл бұрын
This came out while I was reading foamsmith 3!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
So exciting!
@MichaelTotin3 жыл бұрын
Was there a reason you didn't use plastic or a hard rubber (which I feel has proven itself as a reliable stamp material :D )?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
We didn’t have any in the shop.
@socialfreak6663 жыл бұрын
Can your laser engraver cut into softer metals like copper or aluminum? If it does then you'll have much better results using a soft sheet metal and backing the metal with wood so it stays flat. Then apply the ink to the metal with the rubber roller and press the paper on a thin piece of rubber or foam. You'll be able to get much finer detail on your prints.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips! My laser cutter can't do metal, but for others this is very helpful!
@thetermite723 жыл бұрын
I have a fsl muse and I like your on/off switch setup do you or could do a video on the setup of the switch bank
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Check this out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h56QdH6pjMuCn8U
@thetermite723 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops thank that helped a lot. It must be a Pacific Northwest thing building with what you have lying around the shop. I do it all the time
@stevenkuiper16063 жыл бұрын
YES!!!! I want/need laser cutter now! :D
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
They're a really neat tool!
@InsidetheBoothTV3 жыл бұрын
Love it
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PatDooley503 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a good thick coat of paint before you laser cut would have been helpful?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, maybe.
@HungLikeScrat3 жыл бұрын
Highlander is one of my all time favorite TV shows, along with Stargate SG-1/Atlantis/Universe. Would love to see y'all make some props from the Highlander movies and show, maybe even from Stargate.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! I watched a *lot* of SG-1.
@SophyWongMakes3 жыл бұрын
Ooh I love how these turned out! I also love that there was a fax number on it, who says immortals are old fashioned? :)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Fax machines are immortal!
@FeardoGaming3 жыл бұрын
Amazing as always. Off with his head. lol
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rascaltheferret81513 жыл бұрын
If you ever find yourself doing something like this again may I suggest a material called Linocut it's used for printmaking
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rascaltheferret81513 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops No worries
@guyloren3 жыл бұрын
Great to see you guys again!Which foam did you use for that attempt,Bill?I wondered whether SKS' HD foam might have produced a decent result,as it's super-dense...?🤔
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
We may have used HD foam, but it was probably TNT cosplay supply or Yaya Han - you're right though, a more dense foam might work great!
@mikeparker38653 жыл бұрын
very cool Bill and Britt! I hate when I discover it was a small dollar or simple fix that has kept me inactive. Darn that overthinking!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Right?! I was worried I would have to replace a $400 laser tube.
@mikeparker38653 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops BTW - Just name dropped you on the latest "Tested" video
@SuburbanDruid643 жыл бұрын
I've also found DAFont to be helpful, it's been around for 15 to 20 years.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Great site
@connormaccloud19603 жыл бұрын
Freaking cool man!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@creativefifty6193 жыл бұрын
Cool. Thought you would have just used dense foam in the laser. Works really well in mine 😁😁
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the foam I have on hand is dense enough, but that is a great idea.
@creativefifty6193 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops it only dawned on me as a thing to do after engraving foam props in the laser lol. I dropped some cf100 in and made a logo stamp for myself
@KenRossPhotography3 жыл бұрын
Such a fun project! Did your laser come with that adjustable height print head or was that a mod you did? (if so, do you have a vid of that mod?) I'd love to add something like that to my K40!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
The Z height adjustment is standard on my laser cutter.
@ImaginationToForm3 жыл бұрын
I remember when you made that storage rack for the laser and installed the power strip upside down. That still triggers my OCD :)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, as soon as I can move that closer to a different outlet and flip the box over, the better.
@oldtogold70943 жыл бұрын
Love wor videos bro
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Craftlngo3 жыл бұрын
you may turn it around with the stencil on the table and the paper on top. Then roll with the rubber roll over the paper. That's how old relief printing machines work.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh snap! I don't know why I didn't think of that. Awesome idea. Thanks! =)
@Craftlngo3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops oh and another thing I've forgotten to mention. Try to apply the paint with a rubber roller. This leads to a more even colour distribution. The prints get more uniform
@FlyingWoookie3 жыл бұрын
The whole time I’m like “a STAMP?... it’s backwards!” 😅 luckily you figured that out right after a test on balsa. I did learn that you can kind of stamp with it though 🤔😵 that’s neat
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
HA! Yeah I think I make that mistake every time I make a stamp like this.
@FlyingWoookie3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops im always paranoid when I have to flip stuff 😂 the card turned out perfect though ✨
@seekertosecrets3 жыл бұрын
5:41 Balsawood isn't really heat friendly. Even with enough friction, it can leave burn marks. 10:51 Okay, that's a better quality. 11:27 We have a winner!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Weeeee!
@rauz3 жыл бұрын
Photoshop has font matching built in nowadays. Just select the part you want to identify and select Match Font in the Type menu.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh amazing, I had no idea!
@ImaginationToForm3 жыл бұрын
Nice card. I had liked that kid Richie. I had a feeling from the start he was going to end up Immortal but not go ape crazy.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Richie had an interesting character arc, for sure!
@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond92963 жыл бұрын
Given your proclaimed love for big chunky revolvers you might want to try your hand at making the service weapon from control.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh man that game looks awesome.
@hewhogoesevenfurtherbeyond92963 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops it is especially if you like the SCP universe.
@VariablePenguin3 жыл бұрын
I really want to add a laser cutter to my arsenal. It's on my list of next big tool purchases. I really enjoyed using them when I used to be a member of a Makerspace, but I can't justify drive 2 hrs to use a laser cutter.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It's a great tool and was one of my first major purchases. SO worth saving up for
@Mat_10003 жыл бұрын
I noticed the sticker on the laser cutter "For rectal use only" :D I prefer not to ask what rectal use you made with it, thanks! :D But seriously, thank you for the video ; ) Looks like the balsa wood has too much density difference between the different type of fibers. Interesting to see how it reacted to the laser cutter. It embossed the hard fibers. By laser cutting a whole plank of balsa, you could end up with only the hard fibers embossed and get a big "wood imitation" stamp the size of the plank :D
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's amazing how the wood grain makes so much of a difference to the laser!
@cynicalrabbit9153 жыл бұрын
What about Linoleum block? This method has been around for decades.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I didn't have any so I wanted to try wood!
@christophermahon18513 жыл бұрын
I wonder how linoleum block would work? It's not as old a material for print-making, but artists have been using it for generations.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I bet it would work great! Not sure how it would work with the laser cutter
@christophermahon18513 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops Trying linoleum and different materials might make an interesting video. A suggestion that I made on Simone Giertz' channel was to see if the laser can cut through B.S. The world could use that.
@HavocHounds19883 жыл бұрын
Maybe if you had done a clear coat on the new balsa wood stamp it would perform better.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Good thinking!
@shohamblau3 жыл бұрын
you dont mess with FONT people, they are ruthless.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It's pretty amazing how important it is in design!
@nerdyviews3 жыл бұрын
When my friends and I used to watch Highlander back in college, we used to say, "There can be only WONG." It almost became my twitter handle, but it was too many letters... ;)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
HA! That would be perfect. =)
@Saavik2563 жыл бұрын
That "Aquisitions" spelling error in the original prop is giving me a headache.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I didn't notice it until just now.
@shubinternet3 жыл бұрын
I came here to say it should be “Acquisitions”, without realizing that the misspelling might be from the original prop. Was not disappointed. 🤣
@pyro_y03 жыл бұрын
It's the same in American Psycho.
@jamesbarisitz47943 жыл бұрын
Try a stamp lasered in acrylic then roll the ink on the stamp with a rubber roller.✌
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
OOh I like that idea!
@jamesbarisitz47943 жыл бұрын
Glue a block of mdf to the back of the acrylic stamp to stop it flexing (cracking I half!) while printing. ✌
@bigbobsprops36273 жыл бұрын
What did you think of Highlander: The Raven
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't very good, but it was better than the 2nd and 3rd Highlander movie. =)
@bigbobsprops36273 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops and they were better then the 4th, 5th, and 6th film
@KamenRiderFeline3 жыл бұрын
I am in for all sorts of paper crafts and props.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@jonathan__g3 жыл бұрын
I would have to think that instead of making a stamp, that making it as a stencil and then applying the ink would give you a cleaner result. But this looked great nontheless!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
That could work too!
@ChrisWilson-mg1it3 жыл бұрын
Are business cards still relevant
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
You'd be surprised!
@Shin_Lona3 жыл бұрын
Most people migrated to Magic: The Gathering or Pokemon, but business cards have held their value - especially the holo-foils.
@Ding_Bat3 жыл бұрын
Love the Evan and Katelyn shirt! Love your video! But your “there can only be one” needs more conviction. 😉 #SupportOurMakers
@jessihighwind3 жыл бұрын
Suitable too! Make Fail Make
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I can say it with as much conviction as Connor MacLeod does at the end of the first Highlander movie, but I'll try. =)
@MarcusWolschon3 жыл бұрын
With a stamp you should make EMBOSSED business cards.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Ooh that would be fun to try too!
@laforetsebastien15703 жыл бұрын
or you could just use rubber-stamp designed for laser cutter... about 10 bucks for an A4 sheet. works very well. the MDF stamp are not useless : they can be used for embossing leather, and that's great, provided you engrave deep enough (might need 2 passes or even 3 depending on your laser power)
@RDGoodner3 жыл бұрын
You almost made me yell at my computer (which would have been embarrassing at work) about not mirroring the image to make a stamp.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
We got there eventually!
@kaimarquez43373 жыл бұрын
do you think you could do something with fabric like maybe a crypto costume? i think it could be a fun challenge for someone with your skill level especially if you make the drone with the charging dock. just a suggestion since i really love your work and information you provide with all your helpful tips.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know you're interested in that build! We have our current schedule worked out, but there could be room for this kind of video in future plans.
@RainMakeR_Workshop3 жыл бұрын
I honestly completely forgot a Highlander series ever existed lol
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
The mid 90s were a crazy time!
@johnmoore23443 жыл бұрын
How about a Have Gun-Will Travel business card next?
@rtyhgfplmkoi47843 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that if you put the paper on the stamp then used the roller on the paper it may turn out better
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Good thought!
@baduktiger76612 жыл бұрын
Uh.. there is a typo on the business card. aCquisitions...
@Sabbatheist3 жыл бұрын
Show of hands, who was shouting "flip it!"?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
😬
@evilutionltd3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that a movie crew spelled Acquisition incorrectly. If you pump CO2 through a laser cutter, you don't get flare ups.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I guess that makes sense about the CO2!
@andrewparks1623 жыл бұрын
Nice!!......now let’s see Paul Allens card
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Oh boy
@timeverhartofficial3 жыл бұрын
Movie sword is Connors Sword then series sword is Duncans sword. Seen every eppy of series and all the movies.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@babylonfive3 жыл бұрын
Why not just Laser Print this, as in to use a Laser (toner) Printer, since the output is on paper?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
That's also a great option! You can use a program like Adobe Illustrator to create a stamp effect. I like to try out different methods to achieve an effect!
@Zulfburht3 жыл бұрын
Now you can make a rubber stamp seal.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@InsidetheBoothTV3 жыл бұрын
I need a lazer printer. There are a few things I need to make and print.. lol
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
They are super handy!
@InsidetheBoothTV3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops yes they are. hey we have been finding people and youtubers to interview. would you be interested?
@graemebrumfitt66683 жыл бұрын
Rookie mistake! I've made the same, also moving the piece when it has not been cut through then having to finish off by hand Grrrrr. TFS, G :)
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, happens to the best of us!
@jamilmerchant41003 жыл бұрын
Can I come work at you shop for like a month pls 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but we aren't hiring at the moment
@HellJumperPB3 жыл бұрын
Please do a eva foam fallout 76 excavator helmet for cosplay!! Love your videos!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@HellJumperPB3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops np!. Looking forward to it!
@medunco3 жыл бұрын
I’m named after Duncan MacLeod 😂
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Well that's just fantastic
@fauxmarmorer95443 жыл бұрын
There can only be one..hundred..thousand
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I want them all!
@YearsOfLeadPoisoning3 жыл бұрын
Paul Allen's?
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I actually saw the Clan MacLeod sword at Comic Con at the Prop Store booth a few years ago. Since then it was purchased by the Paul Allen family and put on display in the MoPop museum here in Seattle. I visit the sword often. It's displayed with Connor MacLeod's Scottish outfit next to Ramirez's outfit and sword.
@YearsOfLeadPoisoning3 жыл бұрын
@@punishedprops That's a heck of a coincidence - different Paul Allen with a pretty great business card. Even has a watermark.
@bradleymarks3 жыл бұрын
Need a linoleum block...
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of linoleum is made from vinyl, which shouldn't be cut in a laser.
@RyanPaton3 жыл бұрын
This is not up to your regular caliber build quality... It was a cool concept though...
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
It's fun to experiment with stuff outside my comfort zone!
@RyanPaton3 жыл бұрын
What about if you laser cut the wood (or maybe acrylic) without reversing or making a negative of it... and make that the bottom of mold box then do a thin silicone pour... Then you'd have a silicone stamp... Know what I mean Bill? That might make it easier to get all that tiny detail text without burning all around it and losing details....
@beckymurphy47143 жыл бұрын
Great prop! But the phone number!!!
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Becky! =)
@MrFTW3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job and a nice call back to a great show, just don’t watch any of the movies, especially The Source.
@punishedprops3 жыл бұрын
We're going to for fun but yeah, they are super bad XD
@nootnootman63533 жыл бұрын
noot noot
@laforetsebastien15703 жыл бұрын
or you could just use rubber-stamp designed for laser cutter... about 10 bucks for an A4 sheet. works very well. the MDF stamp are not useless : they can be used for embossing leather, and that's great, provided you engrave deep enough (might need 2 passes or even 3 depending on your laser power)