pyro's machine gun airblast bug

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original video title: "pyro's airblast bug; spaghetti that was fixed 10 yrs ago, but returns stronger than ever today"
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[@WGSen]

thanks shounic, now everyone is just picking pyro and sitting in spawn trying to execute this glitch unsuccessfully lol

[@yarknark]

oh god its jungle inferno all over again

[@Vroshir]

Well now it’ll become more popular for a small while but probably be forgotten about again. Sketchek made a video that talked and showcased this bug at the end but it seems many people have forgotten about that.

[@alexix128]

That's literally the first thing I did after watching this video.

[@Zekiu]

just like when everyone played engineer on badlands just to get out of bounds

[@soldier3079]

i did it after trying for 3 mins

[@amishshark3549]

3:06 mans just tryna blow the leaves off his porch

[@Mopsikus]

Lmao.

[@jeffreychen5130]

practicing for his lawn care business

[@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent]

@@jeffreychen5130 h

[@bepisbest9061]

Pyro's Perch

[@ZaTrapu]

@@bepisbest9061 *evil music*

[@olloefrank1519]

Valve: Patches it up a second time Glitch: *Comes back 10 years later and can be used with the Phlogistinator*

[@theghosttm8245]

Wait how. The phlog has no airblast. What wizardry is this ?

[@bestaround3323]

@@theghosttm8245 The joke, Your head

[@aperturescienceguy2737]

Since joke explainer is nowhere to be seen I'll explain it. The joke is that he says valve will fix the bug again, then later it will come back, somehow breaking the game enough to allow it with a weapon that shouldn't be able to do it. I hope my explanation was satisfactory

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

@@theghosttm8245 Back in my day Backburner didn't have an airblast.

[@huskpl3yz358]

@@bestaround3323 i think this comment is more about you

[@justin-ju4eo]

Damn I never noticed that he actually pulled the trigger

[@randomcatdude]

Yup, the little details on the third-person weapon animations are great.

[@Joshuachicken]

And if you are close enough to see the pyro's fingers, you're Prob toast before you can notice them

[@Jun-Kyard]

Spy mains: *heavy breathing*

[@watema3381]

she?

[@nadroji6549]

@@watema3381 He?

[@s1lence_tiramisu2005]

**THE* *LONGER* *THIS* *BUG* *IS* *EXISTING,* *THE* *STRONGER* *IT* *WILL* *BECOME.*

[@trigger7ff6]

*The longer Source Spaghetti is in the game, the stronger it will become.*

[@himerpaint]

The longer Valve ignores us, the broken the game will become

[@MysticIceFire]

You cannot resist the will of GabeN

[@himerpaint]

"You can't just ignore tf2 community"

[@NuclearRaven13]

@@himerpaint *Mission Objective: ignore the tf2 community.*

[@nightfall745]

Basically Smoke Grenade, but as attachment

[@nightfall745]

@Zildjian Dela Cruz I am the all knowing

[@MM-qs1nu]

So Zhask, how does it feel getting banned almost 24/7 in ranked?

[@MrPatters]

4:56 Bro what unusual effect is that

[@terner1234]

blasting air

[@Someonewithaspace]

Ghastly Ghosts Jr

[@colourblindchalk]

It's called "Smoke and fire or something oh and there's also sparks idk"

[@randomcatdude]

refract shader

[@charlottebiscuit4133]

its actually a halloween spell that blinds people you hit with your flamethrower

[@BillyOnYouTube]

Flamethrower's 3rd mode of operation: Lag machine.

[@mr.auster1481]

Threeee freeeze

[@Gormathius]

Instead of just burning your character it goes straight for your hardware.

[@AD_Nelson]

Shounic: *Shows that the glitch affects FPS* Bot designers: Write that down, write that down!

[@l-to-the-pay2295]

Oh... that might be bad

[@kbjosekiller]

Delete this comment!!!

[@est495]

TAKE THAT DOWN, TAKE THAT DOWN

[@gay_madilynn]

Kingu crimson

[@Succer]

"How to delete someone else's comment?"

[@Z2Obsidion]

The part where he went from 600fps to 16fps was painful

[@outspade]

that cant be accurate how the heck are you supposed to have 600 fps

[@jlongmasbartholomew5724]

Must be a typo or something

[@Z2Obsidion]

@@jlongmasbartholomew5724 I meant to say 400

[@delayedplayer]

Bro got to my average fps on TF2

[@shounic]

it makes sense for the flamethrower to have the state system, but i think it should've been possible for the airblast to be one big action instead of using states? and on another note, i've gotten messages every so often about my editing, but unfortunately i haven't been able to do much to answer those questions or help people in the way they wanted. would it be interesting to people if i livestreamed editing a future video or just talk about nerdy video editing stuff?

[@Cece-Cece]

yes

[@LilShpee]

I'd love a video on all the nerdy editing stuff you do to get these clean end results!

[@Mate_Antal_Zoltan]

I would find a video about your editing interesting, even though I use Windows Movie Maker

[@MUGEN666]

shounic likes black men

[@nintailsTF]

Yes, since you have some of the most crisp and unique edits on youtube.

[@MrBump2]

Saw a guy on Dustbowl stuck between these states a few months ago and like 4 of us were trying to figure out what he was doing. He thought we were joking around because he couldn't see it in first person. Didn't realize how old it really was, thanks for sharing.

[@bogosthebinted3815]

wait you cant see it in first person?

[@embrestedfalacy6552]

​@@bogosthebinted3815no

[@MegaJani]

4:28 The Source Hydra: If you cut one head, two more grow in it's place. Also, after enough heads grow, it kinda looks like spaghetti, so it checks out.

[@oldstoffire]

4:40 Well congratulations, you caught yourself a bug. Whats the next step of your master plan? 4:46 Crashing this game... With no survivors!

[@picleslover5111]

I love what you did there

[@spunkwizard]

Tell me about the Pyro! Why does he wear the mask?!

[@juckya9660]

@@spunkwizard because he wouldnt be able to breathe if he didnt

[@bucketofchicken8325]

@@juckya9660 *yeah, this is big brain time*

[@screamsinrussian5773]

@@spunkwizard because if you rip it off, it would be extremely painful

[@dragoonl.6412]

5:03 - Hey! Look! It's my framerate range!

[@1r587]

Hah, you get above 10 FPS?

[@thealandude9146]

Now it will be even lower

[@computer_dude]

@Zunlite It drops from 30 to 0 every now and then.

[@Zybit1423]

So that explains when I saw a pyro arblast 50 times a second, I always thought it was a hack of sorts because I only ever saw default or gibus pyros doing it

[@bitai683]

theres a cheat that does it, they usually use it to mask auto airblast and blame it on the glitch. i thought that this automatically airblasted everything away at one point because of it

[@vivelespatat2670]

TF2 X10

[@Teathling]

Valve just hire shounic he'll fix your game we swear.

[@yarknark]

Maybe he'll be able to understand the spaghetti

[@deeznoodlezz]

He's going to go insane

[@azzor4134]

he'll go insane

[@mrchoco4605]

A\zzor he’s already insane

[@BreadMan434]

Nobody can touch the unholy spaghetti. Ye who touches that which should not work, yet works, will undoubtedly break it and unravel reality. - Codeaticus 11-1

[@princeraptor]

I love the art style for how you show everything is done!

[@jerrymartin7019]

Bots actually do this suprisingly often. I always thought it was a graphical glitch, but apparently not.

[@Keokithederp]

This is one of those bugs that you knew existed, but you never realized was a bug and was just how the animations worked.

[@peika8324]

Same

[@coltranebartlett590]

noooo this was my super secret pyro main technique I would use to freak people out! Now it's no longer a pyro main secret club thing. Definitely review the walk around with contracker bug though, THAT is truly broken and needs to be patched.

[@shounic]

i think i've only ever seen it once in a pub. can you tell me more about the contracker bug?

[@Freezer2888]

@@shounic you know how if you have the contracker equipped how it plays an animation when you open it up. So if you open the contracker then close it then taunt then you will start the taunt then the contracker animation will override the taunt animation

[@Freezer2888]

This works best on looping taunts that let you move and if you have a taunt that spawns in a object (the tank, broom, ect) then the item will also appear during the contracker animation

[@coltranebartlett590]

@@shounic Okay, that other guy got it all wrong, that's not the particular bug I was talking about. Basically, have a bind for your loadout 1 and 2 on your keyboard somewhere. Make sure that, in loadout 1, you have the contracker equipped, and in loadout 2, you have nothing in that slot (though it will work with like, a spell book.) Turn on world viewmodels while practicing, it helps to know when you got it. Press f2 for the contracker while on the loadout with it equipped. Once you're doing the animation, slam the loadout 2 button lots before it completely finishes. If done correctly, you will be moving around as a statue while still able to move and shoot perfectly. It's really game breaking and needs to be patched, but also kinda hilarious. Be sure to have a clip or something of a sniper hiding behind a box on some map and head shotting someone while he's not even visible at all. After all, he crouches WAY lower than the rest while doing it, and it's a fun exploit to use in a pub every once in a while.

[@RobloxShorts]

how do you do it? I've been trying to replicate it

[@brleony2000]

The visuals that you make for every video are always so well made and compliments so much to the topic you're bringing atm, keep up with ur awesome job bro

[@Freakshowed95]

Me, A Pyro Main: *I n t e r e s t i n g*

[@largeoctahedron]

The bug should be fixed soon. The TF team just has to break some stuff in order to keep their jobs

[@officialeggland7477]

A fellow egg

[@vidboy_etc]

if this were spaghetti, you wouldn't have been able to explain why it's broken.

[@AgrimarYT]

I'm glad that there's someone who understands the proper usage of the term.

[@ThePC007]

Maybe it was spaghetti enough for the programmer to not notice the bug, but still readable enough to read the code afterward to find out what it is doing exactly. I mean, people find security vulnerabilities by looking at compiled assembly and manage to figure out what the software is doing, albeit not as efficiently as they would if they had a properly written source code, of course.

[@coffeetext]

This is probably best described as spaghetti, but somewhat organized.

[@rofl22rofl22]

If it isn't spaghetti, then why did it come back after 10 years? Tf2 as a whole is a 10 pounds spaghetti plate, and every new update is more pasta. JI and Blue Moon helped pyro a bit, but for every big bug they fixed they introduced one new, slightly smaller bug. Flame range being influenced by lag was fixed, but now the newly implemented ramp up mechanic resets the damage for no apparent reason even on stationary targets, and at point blank it never reaches full damage and resets even more frequently, on top of using the oldest flame particle for damage calculations instead of the newest one, which makes flame damage inconsistent af. It's so messed up I'd find it funny, if I weren't a pyro main.

[@LeMustache]

It IS spaghetti and it WAS a mess to dig this. Yes. Flame thrower's code is spaghetti code.

[@randomcatdude]

I quite like the effect that occurs at 4:54. Source's Refract shader just doing its thing.

[@ieathalfburnedpopcorn6318]

Theres also a visual glitch that makes the caber look like it exploded, even though Its not (the hit reg makes it obvius when you hear hit Sound but havent actually hit the enemy)

[@MrGillb]

valve be all like "SOMEBODEY TOUCHA MY SPAGET"

[@user-dd4nl9ok8g]

SOMEBODEY ONCE TOUCHA MY SPAGET

[@Destro65]

@@user-dd4nl9ok8g SOMEONE IS IN THISA HOUSE

[@MuffinTM]

THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THIS. IT TOOK ME YEARS TO FINALLY FIGURE OUT THAT NO ONE WOULD TELL ME SO I SEARCHED IT UP AND YOUR VERY DETAILED VIDEO WAS HERE

[@robinrai4973]

I love what your channel's become!

[@mendyshelios0451]

So what we did learn? Pyro is a virus in tf2 and must be eliminated. "Valve, please fix"

[@infucktus4899]

Its just a visual bug dumbass

[@AnglosArentHuman]

@@infucktus4899 Which causes drops in performance in this already horribly optimized game...Yaaaaau

[@CBRN-115]

Honestly, spy's backstab is more annoying but oh well

[@lambda2657]

3kliksphilip

[@airhead7379]

@@infucktus4899 should still remove him. He's just a nuisance, not fun

[@IOwnThisHandle]

The production quality of these videos is unreal, you should be really proud

[@kv2674]

See ya'll when this gets recommended to everyone a few days later.

[@sagecolvard9644]

And here I am.

[@Mabra51]

4:42 POV: You are the red spy in the base.

[@charmyzard]

This guy has more ability and chance to actually get hired at VALVe than I could hope for in an entire lifetime.. *Welp, another life ambition shattered like glass!*

[@kyo666oyk]

I assumed it was just lag making that happen. Its super confusing/jarring every time. So, thank you for making some sense of this.

[@AbelmcTrobel]

As a pyro main with 1k hour on the game, i love how i can still learn new things about the game. I never knew pyro can right click to airblast.

[@xyzzy-dv6te]

Please tell me you are joking

[@AbelmcTrobel]

@@xyzzy-dv6te duh

[@correira121]

There's another fun bug with these states that makes anyone t-pose despite not actually trying to, making it much harder to tell what they are doing. I don't have a definitive idea on how it happens, but I think it's caused when TF2 stutters or freezes during gameplay.

[@RandomJD]

10/10 Melted my fps to 15. Great job

[@athenajayvieljerios8343]

XD

[@BoyusGoyus]

I love how the titles and video tones are so casual but the videos are made so professionally

[@iscesp04]

Your editing is always so pretty to look at and conveys the information so effortlessly. I love you dad

[@dummi2673]

why is there a "is button held down" check in the first place? Shouldn't it just reset after the animation etc are done (i assume 50ms) regardless of what button is or isn't pressed?

[@e-goblin]

Was just about to ask this. I don't understand the purpose of the check.

[@buttonasas]

It might reset firing primary into idle state while the flamethrower is actually still active and damaging. If you run into problems like "no transition set from D to A", you aren't far off.

[@Pejo-Bun]

I thought this video was referring to flame particles suddenly appearing for no reason in random spots on the map

[@CBRN-115]

As long as this isn't practical bug that makes Pyros impervious to projectiles, I guess it's tolerable

[@initialgd9113]

to do this more ptimally hold m1 then hold m2 till the second airblast animation plays then quickly release m2 after you see the 2nd airblast animation its not perfect but it is more easier

[@PouLS]

3:50 Valve Moment

[@zenboomboxfender5191]

4:14 How to execute the actual glitch

[@noodle6552]

Bots might probably abuse this by having multiple bots join the game and do nothing but fire and airblast Edit: I meant effecting frames, I know it's just a visual bug

[@FantasmaNaranja]

since it only seems to affect fps if you're staring at it or someone is leaf blowing your point of view i'd say that'd be an improvement over the aimbots

[@mr.nutcracker8957]

SHHHH, DONT GIVE THOSE DOUCHEBAGS IDEAS

[@lychy645]

Its just a visual bug, you cant actually airblast

[@yarknark]

@@lychy645 even if you could you'd run out of ammo real fast

[@mr.nutcracker8957]

@@lychy645 Did you see how it took down the frame rate?

[@goldencheeze]

For people trying to do this: On your screen, you know it works if you: See no airblast; Only other players can see it, and to you it just looks like you are holding m1 Hear no flames or airblast; There should be no noise if you did it right, only others can also hear it. That being said, in the video when Shounic was explaining how to execute it, he wasn’t very detailed. When he said “quickly tap right click” he meant “Hit secondary fire for as short of a period of time as possible, only once” (right click for less than 50 ms one time) So, you can either hold m1 and very quickly tap m2 once, or you can very quickly tap m2 once and then continue holding m1. The airblast is purely visual and does nothing to you and just lags others with bad pcs. The glitch ends if you stop holding m1, or hit secondary fire again for shorter than 50ms. The initial airblast costs ammo and works normally but the bugged ones do not do anything

[@goldencheeze]

Once you understand it it’s extremely easy to perform given you can tap m2 and let go really quickly. I use a bind to just tap mouse2 for 1 millisecond so i can get it every time easily

[@shieldphaser]

Team fortress bugs... did you eat my entire bottle of kill-me-come-back-stronger pills?

[@cake_dispenser]

0:30 poor heavy

[@JohnDoe-gp5vd]

5:00 oh look, my usual gameplay experience *without* anything going on in game

[@Woot100]

4:56 looking out the back window as a kid when the car went through the car wash

[@dravo3871]

lmao I had an ad saying “here i am, stronger than ever!” before the video

[@Pyromaniax]

The Flamethrower hose is still attatched to his thumb bone since 2007 and was never fixed so this is kinda the standart now

[@hateakame]

this looked so professional until i saw the "oh shit fuck" text i love it.

[@DEWILL]

Another reason why Pyro is busted class. Thanks for the info, it's a famous glitch but how to execute and why this happens was a mystery for me for a while so

[@Kenajcrap]

After the last video I noticed a perceptible uptick in the teleporter meta in pubs, but this... you opened the pandora's box with this one, mate...

[@gonkdroid4603]

I guess soldiers with a banner equipped are gonna have a tough time with this

[@Crap_A.I_bird]

This is probably the worst nightmare for a demo knight

[@jakubpociecha8819]

I imagine there would be lagbot pyros that purposefully bug themselves in order to crash the game

[@c0smo709]

That's stupid as hell

[@MickyVideo]

Lagging the server in this manner is ineffective at most. Lagging your game? Yep.

[@randomcatdude]

You likely won't be able to crash anything with this. The server will be completely unaffected, and the most you could do is destroy the FPS of clients that are looking at the effect.

[@vincent7584]

4:48 Oh my Go... Help m.... cant take anymor... aaaaaahh.... *spaghetti monster took him to shadow realm*

[@d_inkz]

Thank you for beautifully explaining some of the crap I see in-game that makes me wonder if I imagined it.

[@pilogun1454]

Why use air when you can W + 1

[@fakefisch5005]

**Somewhere in the distant future** shounic: The Pyro is now able to airblast players away while BBQing them due to the bug.

[@lajwus]

That is definition of my ass after a taco bell 0:01

[@CloundCvnt]

1. Explaning the problem 2. Saying it's broken 3. Showing you how to use it Ah yes 👌

[@misterkad9979]

It’s messing with me that I just now realized the Pyro pulls the trigger on his flamethrower

[@Techhunter_Talon]

I appreciate the detail that the Pyro squeezes the trigger for their flamethrower. The devs didn't need to put that in and I like it because they did.

[@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R]

Can't wait for bots to do this!

[@Curly_Horse]

No don't give them ideas!

[@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R]

@@Curly_Horse Just *look* at those frames!

[@randomcatdude]

It would be hilariously ineffective and stupid. They'd be defeated literally by just looking away from them.

[@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R]

@@randomcatdude Yeah, but imagine if they had all the bots group up and follow a path like those catbot snipers. That'd be a real pain in the ass.

[@randomcatdude]

@@F_I_J_I_W_A_T_E_R Still, there would need to be alot of them to cause a significant FPS drop. *And* they would need to refill their ammo occasionally, which would be kinda difficult for a group of stupid bots.

[@SchkuenteQoostewin]

Welcome to programming, screw up once and not fit it....It will haunt you forever

[@SchkuenteQoostewin]

One developer seen this message and felt thy pain

[@mrmcmoustache9615]

With all of the pyros doing it it sound like the engine of the V1 flying bomb

[@kadu12111]

You just gave the bots a way to crash my game on my laptop. Thanks.

[@marcfyre]

Imagine if this wasn't just a graphical error and actually enabled you to rapid-fire the airblast.

[@scottm3985]

The broken flamethrower looks like it's broken

[@Kreiser_VII]

I think i can hear a few devs cryng from here

[@andyfriederichsen]

BTW it's possible the flamethrower isn't blowing out air but instead blowing out the gas used to push the flammable gas out.

[@cardmistresslive]

Weapon states? What does it be saying?

[@chryco4]

Idk how related this is to this bug, but lately I've been experiencing a different pyro glitch where if I right click with the detonator and then immediately switch to the degreaser the game makes me airblast before I start shooting normal flames again. This has only happened with the degreaser + detonator and it basically kills that combo's ability to quickly switch back and forth, I have to use the stock flamethrower since it's now faster.

[@Shrekswamp21]

I didn’t even notice that pyro moves his fingers when firing flamethrower lol

[@gamer12464]

This is just Pyro's new update benefit: Lag players with bad computers

[@Sakamoto__-83]

At least its just a visual bug and doesnt really effect in game. Its just become a party trick at this point.

[@GeorgeCowsert]

At least this is just a visual glitch and not a gameplay issue.

[@vorpalweapon4814]

when i see a pyro accidently do this in game it is terrifying because of the noise it makes.

[@purplehaze2358]

_I feel a presence I haven’t felt in a decade..._

[@TheVoidrex]

I had this happen in a game earlier, I saw it and thought it was a cheater, but it was only once, so i looked at your channel and sure enough I found this, knew I could count on you

[@ghost_ship_supreme]

This is actually intentional! If you fire like this for too long, the propane tank just explodes killing you instantly! But no seriously, we could cal this the “Orion flamethrower”! (Named after the Orion project).

[@theunidentifiedchangeling9451]

"What doesn't kill Scp-682, only makes it stronger."

[@literatemax]

Finding that old GameFAQs is so awesome

[@beepthefox]

5:02 is what your dog sees when he tries to eat the hose water

[@awesomearchon9933]

Let's add this to the ever-growing list of Pyro bugs that still aren't fixed.

[@CWOFFEE]

Interesting. I suppose it was only a matter of time until a video showcased/explained this bug. Found it w/ some friends a few years back; kept it largely under wraps to prevent widespread abuse, sent an email to the TF team, nothin'. Ah well.

[@samoaspider]

sketchek demonstrated this ages ago in his ramble vid

[@MartinPurathur]

don't make me look at the caber shounic

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

Wait, this bug is back? I fucking loved this back in the day! I gotta go try this and relive the nostalgia.

[@stormsplycce722]

I just imagine this being an obscure tech way of hiding from a sniper while crossing a sight line

[@strollas]

pyro fighting to be a generalists with a lagswitch weapon

[@gaminggranny1541]

Soldier: *exists* Every competent Pyro in the server: 4:45

[@Kenlaboss.]

Of my 6000 hours in game I have never heard of this.

[@damsen978]

I thought it was some kind of hax because i thought those airblasts really worked and reflects every projectile ever.