Q5 Audi ZF 8 HP 3.0t quattro transmission filter & fluid change

[@JoeDoylePhotographer]

Can’t believe you got those aluminium bolts out off the pan without shearing them. Considering the torque is 4nm and they have about the same strength as straw. Well done on the job, just did mine a noticeable difference in gear transition especially between first and second taking off and stopping.

[@andyp5091]

Eddie, thanks for video! it helped me a lot to add a bit of oil to transmission after i unintentionally started my car without connecting oil hose to radiator.

[@johnspicer2062]

Great video, helped me a lot

[@RJ-lk5pj]

That garage lift definitely makes this job possible

[@fer8888888]

It's possible anywhere. But not in just a few days with out a lift.

[@PaneraiTravel]

Hi, for the final fluid level you have to have the engine running. The pump sucks up the fluid and you can add around 1 litre extra. I know this because I made the same mistake!

[@rafaelchavez2851]

Hola disculpa de la forma que tu lo hiciste, cuantos litros le pusiste? Y como se puede extraer todo el fluido, muchas gracias, saludos

[@halfcentury1112]

So I just did this after watching your video, thinking it was going to be easy. Thank you VM for filming this, it helped tremendously - Well if you have a lift it is definitely easy. However I do not have a lift so I did it w jack stands and ramps in my driveway. Audi certainly did not take transmission maintenance into consideration w the Q5 design. There are about 5 different sized/type fasteners (size, heads, hence tools) it takes longer to remove all the hardware, covers, brackets than it does the actual oil change. I removed roughly 4 quarts of fluid from the Transmission, so I added back what I removed in fresh fluid. Removal is certainly faster w a impact driver, but installation of the transmission pan should be done by hand, they are aluminum screws into an aluminum transmission. I changed the fluid at 50k miles and TBH it looked great and if I could have checked it I would not have wasted my $ or time. Overall, it was a PITA and I'll never do it again. Just my 2 cents

[@shanedawg5856]

Totally agree. The guy in the video using an impact driver to thread bolts was making me cringe each time knowing he was probably cross threading some of them.

[@radeklisiecki7647]

Dolewa się oleju aż do przelania następnie się uruchamia silnik i na włączonym dolewa się aż do ponownego przelania poziom oleju jest bardzo ważny robimy to na uruchomionym pojeździe ❤

[@phonkyfeel1]

I was getting feelings as soon as I saw pliers used to remove plastic underbody pins. All videos have their purpose, some good-some bad

[@Phytopathology]

I wonder how many quarts did it take.

[@vigneshie]

How much fluid drained out? I'm wondering since some of it stays in the torque converter.

[@darrellpowell4331]

Great job guys.. I was wondering if you are only changing out half of the fluid why not after fill while the car is on the lift run it through all the gears and reverse for 5 minutes then drain and refill again. I have done that with my Subarus and it worked great.

[@fer8888888]

The fluid is roughly $45 a quart for the green ZF trans fluid. One time replaced enough fluid to improve shifting, restore the bulk of additives, and remove break in filings that sit in the trans pan & filter for life if not removed. If the fluid wasn't liquid gold we would have used my T-Tech machine which automatically wastes a few quarts just to prime the system.

[@darrellpowell4331]

@@fer8888888 But Eddie the labor charge is hundreds of dollars, what's another $180 to increase the percent of NEW fluid? Just saying. Videos like these are very helpful to folks and keeps the dealers honest. Thank you.

[@ohitslit]

Thanks for the video brother, after topping off the fluid did you have to hook up to vcds?

[@fer8888888]

I don't believe we did. Just checked fill plug on side of trans.

[@jannesmagi8293]

Great job! is this q5 had airsuspension?

[@mikejd35d23]

Good job but you guys are reckless with the gun on the install of those tiny pan bolts. Take an extra few minutes and use a dewalt impact gun, the ones for screws. Then go around by hand and check them. You are not saving any time if you break the flange on the trans. They don't strip, the actual flange brakes off where the bolt hole used to be. Try explaining that to the client.

[@fer8888888]

You may not be familiar with a butterfly impact as most mechanics buy the Dewalt's you speaks of instead, but they both have adjustable force and operate in the same torque range of the Dewalt impact.

[@norberthofer5830]

Looks like a flat rate job using the impact gun on little bolts.

[@toddn.3123]

I 100% agree at least hand thread the bolts to get them started. Not to mention the belly pan snap pins were just ripped out. This is just lazy work.

[@dervdoctor1]

You check the oil level through the bung in the base of the pan not in the filling bung. Get the gearbox oil to 40 degree C then remove the bung then it just does the odd drip that's the correct level

[@fer8888888]

Pretty sure that is for the other version which is the 7 speed. You can see this plug is at the bottom of the pan at the lower side with out boss stand off in the pan to set level up high.

[@benjik007]

Did you just do this as a high mileage service or you had problems with the transmission not shifting properly. Thanks for filming the whole thing!!!

[@fer8888888]

Did it as preventive maintenance.

[@benjik007]

@@fer8888888 perfect 👍

[@EJR20]

Don’t those bolts to the transmission mount need to be torqued to a certain torque?

[@fer8888888]

It would always be nice to have torque specs, usually you never do. When you work on cars long enough you can also feel through impacts and wrenches when the bolts are tight.

[@radeklisiecki7647]

Ile przejechane na tym oleju?

[@SkilfulLeader1]

Hi there, thanks for this and just wondered out of curiosity if changing the gearbox oil on my 2015 sq5 tdi will resolve the slight grab/jerk from first to second including the slight stiffness from park when cold. Currently has 60k. Thanks 👍

[@fer8888888]

It depends why it is happening. If it is because of slight valve body wear then the newer thicker transmission fluid can only help the situation. This procedure only replaces about half of the fluid because the other half is in the torque converter. Also if the additives are depleted and causing the problem this procedure can only help. If there is debris sticking a valve/constricting an orfice, or an issue with the pressure control solenoid it probably won't help. From what I have experienced in the past, changing the trans fluid helps those situations.

[@SkilfulLeader1]

Eddie P ah ok really appreciate the response and it’s booked in for the gearbox oil change in the next couple of weeks so I guess time will tell. Thanks again 👍

[@subdaim]

@@SkilfulLeader1 Did your gearbox get any smoother after the oil change? Doing it on my A5 2012 Multitronic, really big delay/jerky from total stop to start/1st gear. Thanks

[@guomondur9248]

Have you drain/flushed the differential oil ? I have ‘16 2.0 and just hit 40k miles. I’m thinking that’s a “to do” item along with transmission fluid change by spring.

[@fer8888888]

No, my buddy was talking about doing it eventually, but the fluid is crazy expensive. At 11:22 in the video you can see the fill plug on the side of the diff. All procedures to get to it are the same and I would use a flex head 3/8 ratchet with the right 3/8 bit to get the fill and drain plug on it and pump the fluid in.

[@guomondur9248]

@@oijhhytdirhrbru so you need to change 3 differential oils ? Front, center, rear ?

[@vasourumashvili4535]

What was the size of wrench for first two bolts (it was like to rf but more teeth 😅😅)

[@robsonf6683]

Great work!

[@leo3325]

Nice video! Is it necessary to change filter since it may be a mesh filter. I changed it on a VW 100k. Nothing is on the filter. Only some fluffy on the megnat. If no need to change filter, it will save lots of works.

[@fer8888888]

This other video I made covers changing the fluid and not the filter. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp_WnWSBnK-Xo6s You are correct, most transmissions never need the filter changed. But very few will have dirty filters and if it is easy to get too, it should be done once to get break-in filings out.

[@hobo1704]

Why go to all the hassle and not change the filter..

[@JohnKaufmann]

I see you have a max Jax and some of the tripod stands. Did you cut down the legs on the stands or did you finds some shorter ones? Nice set up thx for posting

[@fer8888888]

I bought the tripods at harbor freight and cut them down.

[@bigbill74scots]

Top job lads👍

[@kenworth0579]

Eddie P good video I have A 2012 Q5 2.0T I'm trying to get info as much for transmission fluid change and i can't get any dealer told me this trans don't need fluid change I don't believe it any help I Appreciate it

[@fer8888888]

You have to define lifetime. The car companies define it as the warranty period. Then I would agree it is lifetime if you dump the car when the trans warranty expires. I keep my cars roughly 10 years 200k miles before dumping them. If I called an oil company and asked if the oil would last 10 years 200k miles they would laugh at me and say there are plenty of additives that would deplete well before that. To my knowledge zf has never released a trans fluid spec for the aftermarket to meet. Which is why we bought the overpriced factory fluid just to be on the safe side even though there is nothing special about the parts inside this trans. It looks like same old typical trans parts arranged slightly different. No way to know if they put a special friction modifier for the clutches in the oil. If you are going to drive that car into the ground before getting rid of it, then rule of thumb is change trans fluid every 60-75k miles.

[@kenworth0579]

@@fer8888888 yes i like to keep the car thats why im doing it how to tell what trans do i have and where the fill plug is I leave in CT and dealers they are a bunch of ass....... the only thing I got from them was tiptronic trans

[@fer8888888]

@@kenworth0579 You try and put your Vin in a parts website and look for the transmission fill plug. audiparts.autohausofpeoria.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAm4TyBRDgARIsAOU75soOEdC90CrarxV94xthxLgRp98tG-6L367TKpGzU0DfPZMi7xit7uEaAnLwEALw_wcB

[@fer8888888]

@@kenworth0579 Put your vin in on a genuine audi parts website and search for the transmission fill plug. Usually the people at the parts counter can point out the part in their blow up catalog on the screen too.

[@Robteee]

how many miles were on the vehicle for this change?

[@fer8888888]

55k

[@llrick4244]

Do the front differential and transfercase of this Audi share the fluid with transmission?

[@EP-go6xj]

No they don't share.

[@LBB988]

the second fill the engine is on ?

[@fer8888888]

It's been a while but I think final top off and check is with the engine running, a person commented below the temp and sequence to check the fluid.

[@brianbrownify]

i have a 2011 audi Q5 2.0 , it has 105k miles on it. can is still change the automatic trans fluid? what's the risk?? thanks i appreciate it

[@fer8888888]

Here is another video about trans flushes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp_WnWSBnK-Xo6s I have never had an issue at any mileage on any car doing filters or flushes. Some of them at 180k for the first time. As long as the oil level is set your good to go. Blaming transmission failures on oil changes is like blaming cam phasor solenoids, valve guide wear etc failures because you did an engine oil change.

[@thealmightytoad117]

This has to be the most complicated tranny filter and fluid process I've ever seen. Thanks Germany. I'll be sending my wife's Q5 to the dealership for this one...😵‍💫

[@klutzycarlover]

Be glad it's this easy, many modern transmissions are much harder to service, or literally not serviceable on the vehicle.

[@roddydykes7053]

Prepare to spend $1600 if you do indeed send it to the stealer

[@checo80checo75]

Hi, how many liters or quarter oil was used ?

[@fer8888888]

We didn't keep track.

[@sheldonbrown438]

Hello please I have a 2011 audi q5 quattro sline all my transmission oil has leak out now I want to fill it up back but I dont know the type of fuel it used So I want to know what type of transmission I have at or cvt Also what oil should I buy

[@fer8888888]

Buy it from the Vw dealer. We bought the factory fluid as shown. ZF never released oil specs to my knowledge.

[@hobo1704]

You are supposed to have it running for the final fill.

[@toneskill]

what model and year was this car?

[@fer8888888]

2014 B8 Q5 3.0T

[@CarsandCoding]

The jack stands on the lower control arms, did you place those for safety, or to keep the control arms in place when you removed the cross brace?

[@fer8888888]

Jack stands are for safety. Been around and seen to many unexpected things happen with car lifts. Cylinders blow out, cars fall off etc. They are harbor freight specials which I cut the legs down to fit under the short rise MaxJax lift.

[@phovangem]

Do you know the bit size for all those bolts need to be removed? I know they are torx and triple square ones, but still trying to find the size to order them

[@fer8888888]

Sorry did not record which ones. ECS tuning (Not sponsored only posting link cuz I support companies that support DIY with affordable prices) does sell nice triple square sets for cheap. www.ecstuning.com/b-gear-wrench-parts/gearwrench-6pc-3-8-and-1-2-drive-triple-square-socket-set/kdt80744~kdt/

[@bkameka69]

Great vid. If you know, is it the same procedure for a 2014 2.0 Q5?

[@fer8888888]

No idea, maybe some Audi enthusiast will chime in

[@ajarnott62]

Did you have to check level at a given transmission fluid temp?

[@fer8888888]

There is a temp you are supposed to check it at. I do many different types of trans's with out dipsticks now, in general they always want the trans warm and never hot. The higher the fill the less chance of intermittent oil starvation on steep inclines like parking garages and mountains when going over bumps. The transmission with plugs are nearly impossible to over fill unless you do it hot (aka pull it in right off the highway and jump out quickly to check it, that will leave low on oil, let it sit for 15 minutes, the trans should feel warm but not burning when you touch it.); or you deliberately try to oil fill by injecting a lot of oil in and slapping the plug in as fast as you can. Unless you have the nice expensive scan tool or maybe use an infrared gun, just being slightly warm has worked fine for me. The most important part with this trans is move the wheels through gears fwd and reverse to make sure the stop/stop plunger is filled when checking level in park. Even with out a lift to spin the wheels, you can fill the trans as much as you can, drive it down the block and back, then top off again and repeat until fluid keeps coming out when the plug is removed. Don't be terribly concerned about having a small stream when checking trans level for complete fill. As long as it is not pouring out like a garden hose when the plug is removed, you should be alright. Fuild level about 1/4 from bottom of check plug hole is fine. These steps have worked for me on many cars, if you don't prefer them, then use the manual. Plus do you think the dealer sits there burning up money making job time on the lift waiting for the exact warm temperature and check their lifts with a machinist level to ensure they are racked perfectly flat. Heck no, they get them in and get them out, then say next sucker.

[@ajarnott62]

@@fer8888888 thanks for quick response, did similar on other car and they gave a temp range to check at, but even with infared gun, it is not fluid temp but casing temp. Miss old days of an actual dipstick for transmission.

[@fer8888888]

Aluminum is highly conductive for heat, with in a few minutes the trans housing/oil pan should be very close to fluid temp, so the trans fluid temp shouldn't be to far off, to many people make rocket science out of the trans temp specs, slightly over fill is always better than slightly under. A few of the other Trans's I typically do are the GM 6t40 / 6t45 which I think is 185F to 203F, the 8hp I think is 86F-122F, infiniti/Jatco 7 speed I think is 95F to 113F. Basically you don't want to underfill. After driving for some time, I typically check the trans fluid again to see if the fluid is still at least at the bottom of the check plug opening. The concern with overfilling is aeration of the fluid from the spinning gears. But if you have seen what some of these hybrid transmissions look like inside for design, some of the parts look like they forgot about that concept with designing surfaces. Plus to get aeration with overfill you really got to overfill it for that to happen, slightly high typically won't do it.

[@Audigiant]

@@fer8888888 You probably meant "nearly impossible to overfill unless you fill it cold??

[@fer8888888]

@@Audigiant Even cold you have to really try cuz of where the port is in relation to the lowest spinning assembly. It would require pumping fluid in with the tube sealing the side port so oil won't come out, then quickly putting the plug back while oil is trying to spew out. The biggest concern with over filled is the oil getting out the vent, and aeration of the fluid from the spinning clutch baskets. But if you have seen what the inside of some hybrid transmissions look like, they are basically egg beaters on the trans fluid and have no issues. Plus a little over filled allows for steeper inclines like big city spiral parking garages with out risks of starving the pump intermittently. These transmissions should definitely be driven at least around the block and then checked again. The torque converter in my Barracuda ZF trans build kzbin.info/www/bejne/rF7XY6hmf8msbZo was quite thirsty after each time I thought the trans was full.

[@ucscmike]

How many liters of fluid did you use for the refill?

[@fer8888888]

We don't remember if it was 6 or 8 quarts

[@DenisKarp]

W..ww....what were you guys talking about?

[@radeklisiecki7647]

😮

[@nazrinshah3992]

How much capacity atf u fill?

[@yt1234567100]

Hi, How about Q5 2017, when I should do a transmission fluid change? Thanks.

[@fer8888888]

Some do it at 60k miles then at every 30k or 60k after because pan filter changes, only change about half the fluid. I personally prefer every 30k.

[@postopgoddess3141]

🙌🏋💅🍹

[@johnjerrehian4642]

Is this the same tranny that's on a 2014 Audi A6 TDI?

[@fer8888888]

No idea

[@MATTRESSMONEY]

I was hoping all this was NOT necessary 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@petergoyer8556]

These guys are terrible; I wouldn’t let them touch a tricycle

[@fer8888888]

Haha we would like detailed feedback, your explanation is to vague

[@evertonseymour7050]

Did he change the filter? . Can you extract the transmission oil?