For you trying to decide if you want to remove the tcase. Don't do it. You'll more than likely break the crossmember bolts trust me! Just install it with the tcase still in. It's easy if your jeep is lifted. If it isn't, just get yourself some Jack stands. Not taking the tcase out eliminates so much extra bull crap. Follow all steps in the video, just with tcase in and you'll be fine. Also I have a 2000 Xj. I didn't need to trim shifter rod. Should be the same for all 2000 Xj owners.
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
Steven Davis Agreed, We removed this one to make the filming a bit easier. But we have done countless XJs and TJs leaving them in.
@jemlesvideo7 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking to myself. I'm glad my idea is right. I have a few time to spare working on my Jeep and I have a few tools too so I always figure what can be avoided dismounting to go straight to purpose. Owning a Jeep sometimes needs to be a tractor mechanic as me to being able to do things by our own. My lifted YJ Wrangler with 33" Hankook Dynapro ATM tires starts shaking passing 65 mph and I wasn't understanding why because the driveshaft was okay but I see now that the goons who lifted this Jeep before I bought it did not made the effort installing a slip yoke like it is intended
@CRAWLTV8 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. We have installed a few SYE kits on XJs and TJs with the NP231J transfer cases, but this instructional video covers everything! I think I read a couple of years ago that there is now a SYE option for the NP242 as well... Do you guys know any more about that?
@m.engelmann723710 жыл бұрын
Why wasn't the rear axle's pinion angle changed to align with the drive shaft angle? I have a 2.5" lift as well and I haven't gone this route because I was concerned about having to change the pinion angle. Are there any negatives to not increasing the pinion angle when you install an SYE and a CV style drive shaft?
@markgouldner44467 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. The video made it look like the pinion angle was off, and the rear axle drive shaft joint was pointed straight at the transfer case. Why would you have that angle?
@justinzaharko29276 жыл бұрын
In order to clock the rear diff you on a tj would need to rotate the mounts for the controle arms, trackbar and the spring buckets , a whole lot of work... unlike a leaf sprung cj or yj that you could add an angled shim to for some pinion correction. Hope this helps
@jacobbaker19216 жыл бұрын
M. Engelmann with a CV drive shaft the CV Should take the angle and the individual u joint should be straight at operating angle. Maybe the axle was just dropped for the demo and it sits aligned in the ground. I made this mistake before and even with a CV it the pinion isn't aligned making the u joint on diff at 0 working angle it will shake your teeth out.
@Sully15006 жыл бұрын
@@justinzaharko2927 for a tj all you need is adjustable control arms to set the pinion angle.
@SamSam-ke9zy7 жыл бұрын
Safety note? Support the transmission before removing the support. That's not mentioned anywhere. Very good video though with a few things missing. Like the needle bearing problem someone else commented about and a possible pushrod length difference in the new shorter housing.
@KrossGarage7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@DjDubStak7 жыл бұрын
Yea that needle bearing can be a challenge to remove if u don't have a press
@Lunabearcorso Жыл бұрын
would have been cool if you measure the pinion angles before and after to see the difference.
@codejunki5678 жыл бұрын
"Done in a week end no problem"
@michaelramirez23827 жыл бұрын
With this all opened up it would be time for a rebuild too.
@swiftbear5 жыл бұрын
Do Rubicons come with a set up like this factory? Might want to put a 2.5" lift on mine and I'm just boggled and confused over what the internet says you need or don't need when lifting, I mean some people say for a 2.5" lift you don't need to do anything extra, go to a different forum and people say for a 2.5" lift you have to do this and change this, have to drop that, and install this and extend that 30 degrees blah blah and a 2.5" lift ends up costing $1,500.
@shanebonanno59615 жыл бұрын
Just get the lift and if you need to add more later (After youve driven it and experienced it for yourself) then add it. Yoke slip is a little overkill for 2.5 in lift. My TJ has 6" of lift with no sye and it still drives fine. Just have to be okay with a little bit of rumble.
@uhuffman3 жыл бұрын
Why at 6:46 does he keep saying replace the rings? As in more than one... My shaft only has one ring... Am I missing something?
@ksmith7525 жыл бұрын
another video specifically said Don't put a "THICK" bead. They are machined. When you took it apart most except a very very small amount filled defects. the other vid had a bunch of silicon inside the case and clogging the filter. I think both ways could create a string of silicone in the case. I'm going to go very thin tighten by hand and let it set up before I crush and hopefully keep the gasket in between the surfaces.
@redheadedstepchild41308 жыл бұрын
I have a Full Traction 4" 3Link on my 04 tj. I'm needing to do an sye here pretty soon as I've still got the stock shaft. I suppose it's trial and error but is it absolutely necessary to readjust the lowers back out if I still have vibes? The upper link is a large heim joint and I'm not sure I'll be able to get onto an available lift to do it.
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
+Sam Stanfield You will likely need to adjust the arms. Here is a video we did on the Rock Krawler arms, but it shows adjusting them. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJi3h2SVpZ57iMk you actually need to have the jeep on the ground for the adjustment.
@dustinsleep89312 жыл бұрын
Your kit i bought has 4 lock rings and im just curious if you use all 4 because i have one extra and i only saw you install 3 im about to lose my mind lol
@Ghost-oq4qj4 жыл бұрын
Hey so I’m trying to put in my oil pump but it keeps falling off when I try to put the case back on
@thefrugaljeeper40544 жыл бұрын
Do you need to install lift first and then the SYE or it doesn't matter?
@SadSilenceinDarkness4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter
@Elskrat888 жыл бұрын
would this be the same as the xj or same for all np231?
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
+Elskrat88 it's the same for all the np231 transfer cases.
@T1MMY277 жыл бұрын
dumb question and i think i know the answer but i just wanna make extra sure. once i get all this installed i wont need my tcase skid shield spacers right? i can tuck all that right up next to the frame just like stock.
@Quadratec7 жыл бұрын
+T1MMY27 not a dumb question at all! That is correct, you can remove the transfer case lowering spacers.
@Bottle.fed_RT9 жыл бұрын
I have a 01 tj with a harmonic balancer... Is there at difference? Cuz I get told to measure but my driveshaft is different... Help anyone?!?!?
@andy.hello.66027 жыл бұрын
what does a slip yoke eliminator do?
@MAHGlie7 жыл бұрын
Ok, so the Cardan joint at the transfer case ensures the shaft speed is constant, same as the output of the T Case, but there is still a slip joint in the shaft. How else would it extend or shorten?
@Quadratec7 жыл бұрын
Yes, it still has a slip joint in the center of the shaft, but it removes the slip yoke from the transfer case side.
@mjd98138 жыл бұрын
wow that is very cool. i have 1983 suburban k20. i want to get a 6" lift kit. but i dont want to drop the drive case do you have a kit for my suburban?? your setup on the jeep are brilliant
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
+Mahmoud j. Sorry we only carry them for jeeps.
@mjd98138 жыл бұрын
oh . thanks for replay
@dylanreynolds48992 жыл бұрын
Is this the same install for a np242 tcase
@VapidToast9 жыл бұрын
I have an NP231 J obviously the process will be a little different right? I got all the way through this before reading that in older style NP231J's that you have to remove the caged needle bearings in the sprockets. my output shaft does not want to turn at all. do I need to break it back open and remove those? I'm not sure what year NP231J I have
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+jeremy want If the transfer case is back together already then it wont have anything to do with the needle bearings. They would not even fit back together if you have the older one. The most common issues for that would be not having it in 4-lo when disassembling which will cause issues with the linkage, or case not lined up correctly. if the shafts are not perfectly parallel they will bind.
@funkyk9 жыл бұрын
What about the 4 wheel drive pin on the tcase? Once 4wheel is engaged with the SYE on, is that pin going to be too long?
@D_Town_Throwdown9 жыл бұрын
why cant you just angle the whole rear axle up so the pinion is pointing directly at the tcase output shaft to decrease the angles at the u-joints?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Martin Mankins That will help with u-joint wear on the pinion side of the driveshaft, but you still need to address the joint at the transfer case side.
@timdonohoe47446 жыл бұрын
what 4wd mode if any should i have selected when i remove the transfer case? Also have noticed rear shaft of my 05 TJ wrangler has what looks like a harmonic balancer does this need to be installed on new driveshaft?
@timNgarland6 жыл бұрын
@ 4:35, am I suppose to damage the output shaft housing like you did?
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
The output shaft housing is not reused, so even if you accidentally chip the case, it doesn't matter because it gets replaced with the new SYE housing.
@timNgarland6 жыл бұрын
Quadratec I was being funny
@lizannherrera52559 жыл бұрын
We finished the project and everything went well, but our 4wd doesn't engage... any ideas why?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Lizann Herrera Is the Transfer case back in the Jeep or is it out?
@tomasjeep9 жыл бұрын
+Quadratec is back in the jeep
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Tomas Morales I would check the linkage to see if it's binding up. Is the Jeep driving ok in 2wd?
@tomasjeep9 жыл бұрын
+Quadratec yes the jeep is driving amazing, ok I will check, thanks
@lavernelajambe16275 жыл бұрын
you have to cut about an inch off the shift fork shaft on the back end of transfer case
@thewt7 жыл бұрын
I have a late model full size bronco. And almost every upgrade I see for a jk, yj, tj, and even a few cj's are things that came factory on my bronco. Bigger brakes. The lack of a slip yoke on the t case, a full floating front wheel bearing and a bunch of larger pieces. I find this very interesting.
@johnphillipsjr7238 Жыл бұрын
Who cares. Ford sucks
@meeshobatayeh34136 жыл бұрын
The chain looks like it's loose or is that's the way it is?
@Ghost-oq4qj4 жыл бұрын
That’s the way it is
@DirtyReyRock10 жыл бұрын
Hi- Just a question to clarify: at the beginning of the video you identify the SYE as Rugged Ridge, yet at the end of the video it indicates an Alloy USA SYE. Can you please advise which brand was installed? Thank you and great video!
@Quadratec10 жыл бұрын
Rey Sorry for the confusion Ray. Rugged Ridge and Alloy USA are brands owned by the same company, the one we used is the part we link to at the very end of the video.
@shanenixon42368 жыл бұрын
where exactly would i go to have jeep stuff done like this? Probably not a just tires or anything right?
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you are located, but there might be an off-road shop in your area. Or sometimes smaller independent shops will have someone that knows how to do it.
@FluidMotionEnergy7 жыл бұрын
Shane Nixon not the dealer cuz they charge too much lol
@keynonbarnes14398 жыл бұрын
are most output shafts the same size? I don't know what brand sye mine has and I want to replace my yoke
@samcooper87937 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, do y'all sell the yoke separately? I've had the SYE for a few years now (it's awesome btw) but recently snapped mine right where it meets the driveshaft. *Don't worry to anyone thinking about buying this, the whole system is super strong, I was just doing something super stupid when in snapped. Thanks!
@Quadratec7 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam, which sye did you get? We can likely get it for you.
@samcooper87937 жыл бұрын
I have the Advance Adapters SYE. Np231 transfer case.
@jonpaulison22832 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks !
@phaqu229 жыл бұрын
Will pinion angle still need to be adjusted after adding the sye kit and removing transmission drop?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
Shane Foster You will need to readjust the pinion angle after adding the SYE. Sean used adjustable upper control arms.
@benjaminedgerly83368 жыл бұрын
If I have a factory dana 44 on my tj with a long arm kit would the drive shaft that you're recommending still work?
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
+Benjamin Edgerly here is a great article on driveshafts from tom woods: www.customdriveshafts.com/JR7_TW_Driveshaft.pdf do you have a slip yoke eliminator on your transfer case?
@ricardohurtado98237 жыл бұрын
Do I really need the slip eliminator yoke to actually install the drive shaft
@DjDubStak7 жыл бұрын
Aye it's Rickzzz yes, if u replacing it with a double cardon drive shaft
@txm1008 жыл бұрын
Is the WHOLE casing full of oil when operational?
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
It doesn't quite fill the whole case, just under 2 quarts, but there is a fill plug on the transfer case, and you fill until the fluid spills out a little bit then close it back up.
@Lonewlf76769 жыл бұрын
No cutting down the range selector slide pin with this one?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Lonewlf7676 Not on this one. We did on Rob's XJ however.
@ericmorrissey41378 жыл бұрын
I did this to my 99 tj and now I have some serious drive line vibration. This is also my daily driver. Dose any one knows what I could do. Please and thanks.
@L4ND.SH4RK7 жыл бұрын
Have you been able to figure this out, yet? The only thing I can think of would be... Most factory installed driveshafts have added weights to balance the driveshaft to the rest of the drive train and aftermarket driveshafts are perfectly balanced, IDK
@U1S2M3C4Gnny7 жыл бұрын
Eric Morrissey they don't mention it in this video but you also need to install adjustable control arms to change your pinion angle
@Quadratec7 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJi3h2SVpZ57iMk That is always a good idea.
@tomasjeep9 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys!!, very helpful video!
@YoyomastersFTW9 жыл бұрын
What was the purpose of this if the driveshaft still didn't end up being straight?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Shaban Agayev It reduces the angle of the driveshaft, as well as moving the adjustment to the center of the driveshaft instead of on the very end of the driveshaft at the transfer case end. Additionally, it adds another u-joint on the transfer case end in the double cardon CV. All of that adds to the strength of the system.
@sensei17819 жыл бұрын
+Quadratec I'm getting dana 44's put into the front and rear of my tj, I currently have 3 inch's of coil lift, a transfer case drop and factory control arms. What all will I need for my axle upgrade? Will I need all new control arms, a sye, and a driveshaft?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Shaban Agayev Are the dana 44's you are putting in out of another TJ? Upgrading those 3 items are always a good idea, especially if you are putting in 44's
@sensei17819 жыл бұрын
+Quadratec I've decided to leave my dana 30 front and regear it to 4.10s. The dana 44 i'm getting is all preassembled from g2 axles and already has 4.10s and an arb locker in it. Would the arms, sye, and driveshaft all be 100% necessary.
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+Shaban Agayev The G2 axles are made to be factory replacements, so they are not necessary, I would double check with G2 about the drivesaft length just to be sure.
@sergkaizen534210 жыл бұрын
Cost benefit vs replacing everything?
@Quadratec10 жыл бұрын
This is really a setup that you would want for a lifted TJ. instead of just replacing the joints as they wear out faster than they would on a stock height Jeep. You can do it with a stock height Jeep as well, but you would select a different driveshaft.
@Tyrannabudz10 жыл бұрын
Well worth it.
@shaquillegumbs54828 жыл бұрын
So did you use the blue speedo gear or did I miss it ?
@Quadratec8 жыл бұрын
We did use it. Looks like we missed that shot of it going back on.
@jmoyet9 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I own a 91 Cherokee but still a cool video.
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
+jmoyet Thanks! it's the same process for an XJ with the NP231 transfer case.
@TheMoparone7 жыл бұрын
When you installed this kit did it fix the vibration?
@Quadratec7 жыл бұрын
Sure did!
@hardwayrider63366 жыл бұрын
Very thorough
@mrfrmguy9 жыл бұрын
Will it work on a 5 speed manual Jeep TJ?
@Quadratec9 жыл бұрын
mrfrmguy Yes it will, this install was on a 5 speed manual TJ.
@mwilliamsorensen19 жыл бұрын
***** what was the actual time this took?
@rogercraigo26295 жыл бұрын
Didn't give the torque specs on driveshaft
@STANREMLEY6 жыл бұрын
Or just buy a custom length driveshaft/prop shaft.. Or don’t lift your vehicle to the sky. Military HMMWV’s run 37 inch tires and they sit at about the height of a half ton pickup. My leveled 1 ton pickup has about the same ground clearance as one and if it wasn’t so long I could do anything your lifted Jeep can. Please tell me about how uncapable HMMWV’s are, I have just a little experience with them.
@Elskrat888 жыл бұрын
would this be the same as the xj
@searat98145 жыл бұрын
Yes. Should be
@garyking2628 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video like I try to place my order within a week or two from now
@charlied708410 жыл бұрын
And the cost of this project?
@Quadratec10 жыл бұрын
***** We include the links to all the parts used in the video in the description and at the end of the video. As of today Nov. 5 2014 the cost of the parts (SYE and Driveshaft) comes to 559.98. The reason we include links directly to the parts and don't mention cost in the video is because if the price changes down the road, we don't have to reshoot the entire video.
@orobertsimons5 жыл бұрын
Seems like you might as well put in a four to one kit in the transfer instead of all that work just for the SYE. IJS.
@jlateralus214 жыл бұрын
This is way above my paygrade...
@julesphillips94204 жыл бұрын
This does not change the driveshaft angle...
@SadSilenceinDarkness4 жыл бұрын
It does but not as much, the transfercase drop is still needed, unless you have a bunch of money to spare
@Sully15006 жыл бұрын
How the hell do you get the damn snap rings off. Yall conveniently skipped over that little struggle.
@Quadratec6 жыл бұрын
We used snap ring pliers, they came right off.
@marcusmora733 жыл бұрын
@@Quadratec Snap ring and Lock ring pliers are both needed for my 99TJ. Maybe just snap if gots talent.
@irfanashfaq43738 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@gallohuasteco966610 жыл бұрын
Good good
@cugarfed9 жыл бұрын
I saw that nutsert spinning lol
@loganshotrod4x4647 жыл бұрын
Buy a jeep & you get a chain driven aluminum t-case, slip yokes, flanged axles, a 6 cylinder & probably a few other drawbacks I forgot to mention. Buy an old 1 ton dodge, ford or chevy & you get a gear driven iron np205 t-case, no slip yokes, full floating king pin axles & v8 power. About the only thing cool about a jeep is the body, and that goes for only some models.
@DjDubStak7 жыл бұрын
Different strokes for different folks....... It's A Jeep thing. U wouldn't understand if u not into them.
@5buddyro5 жыл бұрын
Tighten to 20 ft/lbs...or two ugga duggas, as shown.
@cindyrodriguez96279 жыл бұрын
that's it not gonna lift my jeep
@running.s.fabrication6 жыл бұрын
Cindy Rodriguez why
@alanhamel49556 жыл бұрын
Cindy Rodriguez absolutely no reason for a SYE on a 2” lift. Quadratic just trying to sell more parts.
@Achisachis736 жыл бұрын
Alan Hamel this is needed for bigger lifts that have a risk of shaft slipping out due to extreme flex.
@marcosamirsilva67959 жыл бұрын
amadores...
@jazzbeez19 жыл бұрын
Why is oil the bottom of every American crap car ??? ..and much sealing why? press within
@jbeddome19 жыл бұрын
Attila Csabai Probably because the car is older than your punk ass.