Questions, Coffee & Cars

[@jeffer1101]

As a few others have said, torque is the force that gets you moving. Horsepower is a specific amount of "work" over a set time. Torque is that thrust you feel when you get moving. Higher horsepower allows you to continue to go faster and faster (top speed). So, low HP and high TQ means quick acceleration and reduced top speed. High HP and low TQ means slower acceleration (TQ) but higher top speed (HP).

[@rstx1737]

Forks and knives (only stainless!!) go point down. Spoons alternate up and down to prevent nesting. Plates all go in the lower rack. Bowls can be in top or (preferably) bottom. Oh, and...torque overcomes inertia. Horsepower overcomes wind resistance. Or something like that.

[@darrylrichman]

Bosch dishwasher, there's a thin 3rd rack and all the cutlery lays sideways up there. Small plates don't really fit on the upper rack, so all on the bottom rack. 2nd rack for cups, glasses, utensils, bowls and saucers.

[@raymondswenson1268]

Sharp knives are placed points down for SAFETY. Sometimes people slip on water near the dishwasher, and falling with an arm or face on the flatware could be much worse if the sharp ends of steak knives are pointing up.

[@Quilustrucu]

We have owned a Miele dishwasher for 20 years. Dedicated cutlrey top rack where they lie horizontally. Small spoons and larger spoons on one side, knives and forks on the other. So easy to pick them up and store them. All plates go on lower rack but never mixed. Tupperware, middle with glasses.

[@ddavidson5]

Miele have the best dishwashers around in my opinion and their 3rd rack for cutlery is the way to do it. The baskets used in other dishwasher brands are not near as good.

[@jdthood]

The disadvantage of the upper cutlery drawer is that it limits how densely you can pack the second drawer. The top drawer has no spray arms of its own; the water from the second drawer's spray arms has to be able to spray op through both top drawers. So if you cover the second drawer with large bowls the cutlery won't get cleaned. But one learns how to deal with this. I like the top cutlery drawer. It takes longer to arrange the cutlery on it, but putting the clean cutlery away takes almost no time at all.

[@ddavidson5]

@@jdthood Miele dishwashers (the best in the business I think) do have a 3rd spray arm at the top for the upper cutlery rack.

[@jdthood]

@@ddavidson5 Good to know!

[@spmk0928]

Terrifically entertaining! Love the easy banter. Btw, the point about seeing a car is so true and important. I’m very interested in the new Porsche Macan 4 EV and thought the pictures and videos made it look very good. I then just saw it on display at our large regional mall in Northern VA, and was stunned at how well it looked, with perfect proportions and a great size, not too long or too tall. Better in person for sure.

[@KenCheng]

The "wagon-on-stilts" is one of the main reasons why I own an Outback... I hope Subaru doesn't veer away from it... it's really has been a unique offering over the years.

[@charlesdudek7713]

Cutlery down and fill in anywhere it'll fit. On that note, I have to go turn on the dishwasher. Thanks for reminding me.😊

[@peternelson8861]

In the trucking industry they say horsepower gives you speed and torque gives you pulling power

[@billurban1581]

@@peternelson8861 big truck pulling power is most severely tested starting a load from a stop on a grade. This is why part of the engine specification is “clutch engagement torque.” These engines often develop 800 lb ft at 800 RPM for precisely this purpose.

[@christophercheek8464]

I have heated seats and a heated steering wheel in my Stinger. They come in very handy this time of year in Northern Oregon. Yes, Andrea, nice hot seat! 🫢

[@jean-philippeperetti8463]

We've owned an ASKO dishwasher for several years. It's fantastic. I habitually place the cutlery facing up. I haven't tried positioning them downwards, but due to their curvature, forks seem to fit better facing upwards, in my opinion.

[@citibear57]

Fun episode! I can't answer about using an automatic dishwasher. I live alone (40+ years) and I am the dishwasher!! I wash as I go, as I don't like having dirty dishes, cups, cutlery, etc., sitting around for hours.

[@CalgaryGuy71]

We don't put steak knives in the dishwasher but i prefer all cutlery (blades/spoons) facing up so they don't get water/food residue on them. Butter knives get the tips coated with grime sometimes if they are down...same with spoons. Forks can stay down. There you have it.

[@blakesearcy9565]

Just found your channel. I've been binge watching your videos. Ya'll are truly great. Seem like awesome folks. Cheers!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much, welcome aboard!

[@InstrumentAaa]

Always nice these videos and love the broad range of topics!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Glad to hear it! Thank you!

[@mikeaiken4330]

All plates on bottom rack, bowls on top rack and silverware handles up so that you aren't touching the other ends when they are dirty or after they are clean and sanitized! 🤣

[@robertf1807]

I agree, But spoons should be up so as Not to block the water spray~ wish they could go down too but it’s the exception to the rule that’s best followed 🤷🏻

[@paulcatarino2209]

@1:38 the Kicks sales would double if a hybrid and or triple as a plug-in hybrid. An AWD, hybrid, sized for the city runabout and weekend warrior - if it did all that we wouldn't have to look to the Crosstrek.

[@calebwany8422]

I mean, it's pretty cheap and idk if you'll recover the extra money spent on the hybrid models

[@TheTallTurtle]

Regarding EV noise: I took a road trip in my friend's early-model Tesla Model 3, and the road/wind noise was so loud on the Interstate that my ears were ringing every time we would stop somewhere. And we couldn't even have a conversation without yelling within the vehicle going down the road!! Dishwasher: I tell my kids that if it fits and gets clean (and doesn't melt plastics), then there is no right/wrong way. "It's not that deep", as my teens would say to people arguing about it. That being said, I put the knives down so that I don't get stabbed, but everything else goes in BOTH directions so that they don't line up together (e.g. "spoon") and not get clean in between them! Some people use the molded tray covers for silverware, but then you are forced to put it upwards and can only fit a few things there.

[@bricksbeersbeards9368]

all plates in the botttom, I feel this allows for more even cleaning by letting the jets shoot the water in a more uniform way across the dishes, and improved rinsing also, regarding he knives, knives should never ever be placed with the blade facing up - you will get cut.

[@paulcatarino2209]

In our house Tupperware lids only go on the top rack so they aren't close to the heat element, along with dessert plates and/or tea saucer. Dinner, salad plates and soup bowels bottom rack.

[@charliet3881]

Every dishwasher is different, our cutlery goes in the bottom rack and the basket is designed for utensils to be facing up. I do stick sharp objects down though. Don't think it makes a huge difference anyways

[@msalvag]

Was in a restaurant in S Carolina a few years ago and asked the server for cutlery. She stared at us with a blank face. Lol

[@GlennLaycock]

Different packaging (colours for instance) in various markets. The reason is also that they have to decide which factory or factories to pull the cars from and what that factory has set up. So with my Elantra they had the same model (different name) made in the USA factory .. BUT it had the digital dash OPTION, dual heating system, and the light grey interior on my lower model .. BUT my more basic set up had a leather shifter and steering wheel (HEATED - with a nicer button placement beside the heated seat buttons) - but again manual heating controls of the lower model. Mine came out of South Korea so almost certainly the USA factory just had different supplies on hand .. so the digital dash at that point was only in Canada if I were to get the top leather model (which had the grey interior option right) PLUS adding the expensive option package .. and that model I understand came out of that USA plant. It also I felt the USA factory was pretty tapped out - or lets say content - just supplying a high demand USA market.

[@angrypenguin956]

Cutelry up and bols mainly on top rack but also on bottom rack if the upper one is full. Tupperware, on the upper rack to keep them as far as possible for the element.

[@bandkadams8897]

Just my 2 cents, but a Stalantis and Nissan combination sounds like the Sears and KMart deal. Combining two weak companies doesn't make one strong one.

[@gregtaylor1167]

You're partially correct Zack! Torque is the twisting force on an object. But, HP is a measurement of the amount of work that torque can accomplish within a time frame. HP is defined as moving 33000 lbs, 1 foot in 1 minute. Contrary to popular opinion, Dyno's do not measure HP, they measure torque. There is a calculation that the machine does to arrive at a HP figure. Torque X RPM ÷ 5250. The engine RPM is the time part of the HP equation. If an engine produces 100 lb ft of torque at 4000 RPM, you can determine the HP that is produced at that engine speed. 100 X 4000 ÷ 5250. Answer = 76 HP. The more torque an engine develops at a given engine speed, the more HP it will have. Trust this helps and sets to rest the HP vs torque debate

[@Motormouth...]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

[@billurban1581]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but the constant is 5252.

[@gregtaylor1167]

​@billurban1581 you are correct. My apologies.

[@billurban1581]

@@gregtaylor1167 a rounding error, for our purposes. Please correct me if I’m wrong but I seem to dimly remember the 33,000 lbs must be lifted rather than moved.

[@gregtaylor1167]

@@billurban1581 again, I stand corrected. In my defense, lifting is moving, right? LOL Lifting is more accurate a definition. The main point is , without torque, there is no horsepower. Some manufacturers in the past have only published the torque figures for their engines. Then there is Rolls Royce, that once advertised the power of their engines as adequate.

[@hugdeath929]

I put food containers on the top rack unless they’re glass because the heating element on the bottom has been known to melt some of the containers. Currently I place the silverware handle down because I feel like they clump together on the bottom of the basket so there might be less room to reach to total surface area. Nice chat 🤙

[@DariusT32]

In our house bowls and Tupperware go anywhere they fit, glasses go on top, plates on bottom, and utensils up (our dishwasher has little holes in a small basket they do not fit down)

[@James-il3tq]

Less color (just like trim options) in Canada less then US I imagine because 🇨🇦 less then 10% market size as 🇺🇸

[@colinshire]

Knives go blade down; forks go handle down because the tines won't fit the slot in our machine. Spoons go handle down for the same reason. We also have an upper tray where cutlery can all lie on the sides, if we cannot agree on the above! I seem to know more about dishwasher etiquette than cars ... sorry!

[@cloudpoint0]

Our LG dishwasher does not allow us to choose up or down for cutlery. The cutlery handles need to drop through small handle-sized holes that are at the top of the cutlery basket. Only the handles fit through the holes. The wide ends of forks and spoons won’t fit through the holes. The holes act as spacers that keep each cutlery piece from touching its neighbor. Washing fluids probably don’t enter the mesh basket as well, so that’s another reason to keep the dirtier wide ends outside the basket.

[@foreverrving3281]

As a graduate of “Dishwasher 101”(my wife failed) i will tell you; cutlery faces down, both sized plates on the bottom, bowls anywhere, Tupperware on the top shelf (can use bottom if you don’t use heated dry cycle). As a graduate, I’m always having to fix my wife’s mistakes!😂

[@sypher2012]

Keep up the good works guys! Love your content!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much!

[@MarC-ot5gl]

I am of the opinion that Nissan's demise is more about very unreliable CVTs that really hurt them more than the lack of hybrids. Its fine in a Versa or Micra but when you had CVTs in Murano, Maxima, Altima, they just killed the appeal of the brand IMO - And you know what they say, when your reputation is tarnished, it's very hard to overcome!

[@steelheader2543]

Great episode on dishwasher etiquette 😂😂😂. Utensils definitely facing down and as far as where bowls and dishes go, IMO the dirtiest of either go on the bottom rack.

[@ramonmontecillo]

With new cars getting more expensive, it would be “Great” to hear from you about 3 or 5 year old car and your recommendations on how it has been performing. This might be a good niche on line. Hope to hear about this. Enjoy your show.

[@charlesdang4670]

More interior color options in Canada since the outside is grayer during the long winter months up north.. hahaha

[@GlennLaycock]

Torque vs Horsepower - oh I love talking about that as it was a quandary for a long time for me to understand. I started to understand it when I sold my '77 Civic to move and my Grandfather gave me his 15 year old '74 Dodge Coronet with the 318 V8 and instead of flooring the car and letting the gears allow me to go faster or slower, there was this neat thing called an accelerator which varied speed. That V8 only had like 150 hp but wonderful torque which was one of the first - oh oh - I am liking (beside the comfortable bench seat - with equally impressive springs plus the usual foam) that torque of not running that engine up but I feel that grunt pushing me against the seat. Bob Lutz - old story - but he was just in to Chrysler after being the VP of BMW and he was having BMW re-engineer an engine he knew about (intended originally for the 3-series) to fit in the Neon's engine bay - AND - bad news but the 4 speed auto was up to its eye-balls in a problem they were trying to figure out a "real" solution for and they did not want it in another volume car yet - so Lutz pulled the dated 3 speed from the Omni/Horizon cars and added computer control to it BUT ALSO he had BMW drop the HP of that engine to boost the Torque - and as he said, torque allows the engine to compensate for a lack of gears.

[@louism8217]

Cutlery up lol, our dishwasher has spots that a fork or spoon will only go handle first. Plates and bowls, etc, should face the middle of the dishwasher, or however the angle sets them.

[@10OF9OFBORG]

😂 You guys are funny. About seat not hot! I am surprised this talk about dishwasher. I don’t have a dishwasher. I usually done by hands. Great show Andrea! ☕️☕️

[@leftcoaster67]

What's a dishwasher?

[@Mac_Raymond]

The cutlery up or down has been an argument in my home. The manual for my latest dishwasher shows the cutlery with the business ends up, but I still load it with them down so I only touch the handles when taking them out.

[@anthonyb755]

Cutlery has to go down!! When you unload it after it’s been cleaned to put it in its place, you don’t want to touch the mouth end

[@stephenwierzbicki4463]

Bowls on Top and Cutlery facing down (handles upwards)😊Boston MA 🇺🇲

[@dcb113]

Always owned a dishwasher. Never ever used it.

[@georgeguydish2648]

The way it was explained to me was torque gets you going, horsepower keeps you going.

[@hopnhike]

Bowls anywhere they fit and cutlery up

[@davidviner5783]

Simply, torque is responsible for making your car accelerate quickly. · Horsepower helps determine your car's top speed.

[@truckercowboyed2638]

Well it also determines how hard the engine has to work to maintain speed as well..the more hp usually means the engine is more efficient, that's why turbo engines are an easy way to increase Horsepower but also increase fuel mileage.....

[@TorontoMiniClub]

Torque gets you there Horsepower keeps you there

[@LouisHansell]

Next, spin off "Questions, Hot Chocolate and Snow Blowers"

[@leftcoaster67]

Dont think they want to move to Ontario. ;)

[@Jorge_Magallon]

You all should have a coffee sponsor. I saw those Christmas themed SB cups and now want a premium coffee. In any case, great video.

[@beyondtherhetoric]

I feel like comparing the NX 350h vs. a Sportage Hybrid is a bit unfair, given there's a 15-20k difference new.

[@elde667]

Okay: After the cutlery chat I have now changed my life-long procedure….because I too, hate handling the silverware when placing it “cutlery up” in the dishwasher. Tomorrow I begin “cutlery down” & to he🏒🏒 with the consequences! Thank you.

[@Motormouth...]

You go for it!

[@AD-lf9ck]

Previous gen NX300H uses regular gas, and it feels more luxurious inside, in my opinion

[@josephpanozzo4815]

I remember the Nissan Altima had a hybrid model with Toyota components. That collaboration should have never went away.

[@billurban1581]

Torque or horsepower, decisions, decisions, decisions. That 428 lb ft from the Porsche diesel is monstrous (kinda). But I’d just as soon have at least 500 lb ft. And absolutely a big bump in horsepower, at least 400. So I bought a Volvo Recharge PHEV, 523 lb ft and 455 HP. The icing on this delicious cake? After 25 months, 21,000 miles, 107 miles per gallon. (my last 2L ICE got 29.7.)

[@louism8217]

Easiest way to explain horsepower and torque. Horsepower is how fast you hit that fence. Torque is how far you drag the fence after hitting it. People tend to buy a car for horsepower, but you drive it for torque. Torque is what you'll feel when you hit the throttle.

[@PHOTOCONVENTION]

Stelantis is building partnership with Archer Aviation in their manufacturing. I can't wait to see that.

[@djplonghead5403]

Today I heard a kid who drove to school say that he was amazed that he slide EVEN WITH AWD. People need to understand what AWD does… it helps you accelerate, not decelerate or change direction. It’s all about tires people… not AWD!

[@Angel-810]

I put small plates wherever they fit

[@richmckay2163]

High school health class said sharp ends down for safety.

[@ayayoutuber]

people might buy more subi suv than wagon. it's all about what sells.

[@robertt9342]

Torque is abit overstated for stoplights. The diesel engine will get the wheels spinning easier, but necessarily moving faster.

[@marcprobin1659]

Plates are at the bottom!

[@CedroCron]

My Bosch dishwasher says that the tines of the forks and spoon heads go face up in my manual. It cleans amazing and has never ever left a dirty dish and it runs daily. It's also silent. Like I mean if I didn't see the red dot on the floor I wouldn't know it was running. You have to put your ear up to the door to hear anything, and just barely. It takes forever though... But I can't complain, dishes are spotless and no food scraping or pre-rinsing. Just cleaning the catch filter at the bottom every couple of loads. It also has a catch tray under all its parts and a moisture detector so if it develops a leak it knows before it ruins your floors unlike our last unit. And it wasn't much more than the garbage brands... I would absolutely buy another Bosch unit.

[@billurban1581]

Hard to top Bosch. I have a wall hung high efficiency Bosch boiler, remarkable machine.😊

[@CedroCron]

@@billurban1581 Indeed... Good stuff!

[@richferguson4831]

We drove a Nissan hybrid in Ireland this summer. Great car. Not sure why they don’t bring it to North America.

[@nitramus123]

Do you think we will get the Kia K4 Hatch/Wagon in Canada?

[@andreaspencer9813]

We asked Kia Canada but they wouldn't say.

[@darrellhorner500]

TORQUE IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME! I DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT... I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH GOING 150 MILES PER HOUR! I PREFER SOMETHING QUICK..SO TORQUE IS WHAT I WANT!

[@JimAllder11]

Y'all both need to memorize that part at the end there, and say in sync every time. Ya know ya luv me, Zack. LOL

[@warsamewarsame6835]

We have Samsung and cutleries can only go facing up.

[@frankdeboer1347]

I never confuse any recent Outback with a wagon. To me it's not special, yet to Subaru fans it is.

[@wendyeroche343]

Cutlery down .Plates on the bottom😊

[@johnmartin7158]

Torque is everything to me.

[@billurban1581]

You should have a torque wrench.

[@johnmartin7158]

@ Or own a stable of horses.

[@billurban1581]

@@johnmartin7158 Milton Friedman said if every car was a horse, we have an entirely different emissions problem. : ^]

[@berniemelanson102]

Our dishwasher has slots for cutlery so up they go.

[@mtbmike1328]

Will a dishwasher be an option on the new 4Runner? 🤣

[@Motormouth...]

yes, for a price...

[@paulcatarino2209]

it should be most RV that size have them

[@frankzanotti1083]

Nissan should have kept the Qashqai and bring in the European version, that I saw in Italy. Such a beautiful and efficient car. They would sell tons of them here in Canada. What a poor move on their part .

[@Duxum]

Torque is how much you feel when you step on the accelerator. Horsepower is how long you feel it for.

[@philipguacci6452]

I have no dishwasher in my 1980s home. Its me manually washing. Same at my mums 1960s home. Washing up by who steps up. As for a dumb trade, i bought a 1999 celica brand new for $51k in Australia, sold it two months later for a limited edition Subaru WRX that i really wanted. I took a $10k hit. Ouch. And had to make it up for the Wrx. Of course police used to look at it, i got followed and thought i was gonna get car jacked. Kept it for six years. Miss it though. My current car is 16 years old 102k. Cheers from down under.🎉

[@jsz2619]

"Horsepower sells cars. Torque wins races".

[@ddavidson5]

Regarding Nissan and their troubles... I am living part-time in Mexico these days, and a Nissan owner, and Nissan has 4 of the top 10 cars by sales in Mexico: Nissan Versa (#1), Nissan NP300 (#2) called the Frontier in other markets, Nissan March (#5) called the Micra in other markets, and Nissan Kicks (#10). I hope they can work it out. By the way I watched Zack's Nissan Micra review from YEARS ago before we bought our Nissan March/Micra this year to drive when we are in Mexico. (I think Mexico is the only market where they still sell that particular version of the Micra.)

[@kenku5125]

Torque is what you use to get moving. Horsepower is the rate that the torque can be delivered. If the car has high torque (like the diesel Cayenne) then horsepower doesn't matter as much. If the engine is high revving and has low torque then horsepower will matter more. Like the old Hondas that can rev to 7000 to 9000 rpm, you have to rev the heck out of those engines to get going because their torque number is so low.

[@bobnelsonfr]

Stellantis in Europe is Peugeot, Citroën, Fiat, Opel, Vauxhall, and Jeep.

[@thomobrien1854]

Add Dodge,Chrysler and Ram and what a stellar lineup of complete crap!! … 😮

[@DonLegere9]

Hey guys I am not sure if this is possible, but I would love for you to test drive a REVOLOGY Mustang GT. Tom Scarpello is the CEO and I am sure he would love for you to stop in at his Florida Manufacturing Plant. 64-68 mustangs with 100% new tech. I would love to now what you both think of them. PS I am thinking of buying one.

[@maxdcorgi]

do the handwash, no more issues!

[@magnoliap5824]

Nissan is not going to partner or merge with Stellantis. Cutlery down. Dah. 😂

[@travelcrazyguy9082]

HI Guys: I don't know the legal Regs in Canada, but couldn't you buy in the US and take it back to Canada to get the options you want? Love you show and your banter. Thanks

[@stephenfishman4133]

Whats the long-term reliability of Genesis gv70 4 cylinders. I'm thinking of buying a 2-year-old to take advantage of the depreciation.

[@matthewchau2481]

As most people are saying, put cutlery down, especially knives and forks, because it's for safety. If you accidentally brush too close, you might get poked or cut. For germophobes, it just makes sense to put it down because we don't want to touch your dirty, used utensil that was in your mouth. for the women debating on the Lexus or Kia, the NX is perfect for 1 person. It is big enough. Though sometimes when I want to transport larger items like going on vacation with multiple suitcases, you would need to fold the rear seats down. Other than the car is fantastic, enough power, its fuel efficient, its "sporty" and you have the Lexus name to make it a luxury car.

[@wny9521]

I have a good idea on how to handle the Mazda pronunciation issue. Zack can say it Canadian style and Andrea can say it American style. Viola!

[@vaskenkafafian8171]

Sealants is fiat, Peugeot is PSA, with citroen.

[@lsft]

I surprised that Zak did not complain about timing this time.

[@smithchuck]

My mom (RIP) had been a nurse and she was taught (& taught me when I was a kid) that cutlery always goes business-end down in the dishwasher for sanitary reasons. Otherwise if the person who pulled them out happened to have dirty hands, they might touch the part of the utensil that will be going into your mouth next. (I’m not sure how serious a problem that really is, but that’s how I was taught!)

[@Shoothejayy]

With the hype with the 2025 Chevrolet Suburbans, would you trade up if you have a 2023 Suburban High Country w/ 6.2L V.8?

[@IamGroot786]

Diesel engines can produce higher torque numbers because diesel packs a higher amount of energy as opposed to gasoline. Which's why all the big rigs, fire engines, fire trucks and so on have diesel engines.

[@mistertee5000]

cutlery down. i used to do up until the one time i accidentally stabbed my hand with a steak knife that was up because i wasn't paying attention (i may have had some wine)

[@burgos227]

Thank You! Hopefully Nissan stays up and running. Team GTR

[@timothycheuvront8284]

I have heard whispers of Nissan and Infinity merging...

[@scoobydoozie65]

The road noise is NOT as bad as Andrea makes out in the Kona EV. It’s a wonderful vehicle and I bought it over Chevrolet because of their lack of freedom of choice to use CarPlay and Android auto. Mark my words, Chevrolet is locking their system down so they can charge the owners for access to features at some point!

[@candyman1961]

Torque gets you OFF the line,while Horsepower gets you DOWN the line.👍🦾🐎

[@como3378]

How about importing Dacia/Renault Dusters and Bigster SUVs 😊to North America? They are affordable, well made and have huge sales in Europe, Latin America, and Africa year after year...

[@cameronsmith2886]

What happened to Nissan and hybrids? At work we had a Nissan Altima hybrid way back around 2009.

[@stuntmonkey00]

Torque vs horsepower; oh boy... The old car guy saw that 'torque is what shoves you and power is what makes you go fast in a top speed" is not correct. Horsepower is calculated as torque * RPM. If you have a car that is torquey at low RPM, by definition it's producing more horsepower at that RPM. Where people get lost in the weeds is that when we say "horsepower" we talk about peak horsepower, which is near the top of the rev range as Zack mentioned, most people want it low in the rev range for drivability reasons. The reason why this always gets mixed up is because people compare apples to oranges. When we say that we prefer torquey engines compared to high horsepower engines, it's always comparing either a bigger engine or a turbo against a smaller engine, so you're comparing engines where the the torque at each RPM is always higher (bigger engine), or the torque peaks at a lower rpm (turbos).

[@billurban1581]

To reduce the definitions to their essence, torque is a measurement of force, horsepower a measurement of work. I can apply 1,000 lb ft of “torque” with a “torque” wrench or any wrench, inside a long pipe for leverage, but I can’t do much work. In fact, NO WORK IS PERFORMED IF I CAN’T MOVE THE WRENCH. The formula for horsepower is lbs ft times rpm divided by 5252. In my example, “rpm” is zero. 1,000 times 0 is 0.

[@billurban1581]

Zack, a good example with the Porsche diesel. A related diesel anecdote: big truck diesels of 12 to 15 litres displacement include a specification for “clutch engagement torque.” Getting 80,000 pounds or more moving from stationary takes a big effort. These engines typically develop 800 lb ft or more at 800 rpm. Maximum torque at 1100 or 1200 RPM might be 2000 lb ft.