QuickSilver | the BEST Whoop firmware! | Flashing & Overview

[@lemonsquareFPV]

I started using it out of necessity… one my BetaFPV boards wouldn’t show proper gyro data in Betaflight, so I never was able to even arm, but worked perfectly fine in 🥑 After some experimentation and tuning without blackbox I absolutely fell in love with it. Thanks to BetaFPV for selling me a broken board, I never would have become a pro at 🥑, I was using it rarely prior to that, and was not proficient in every setting, now I got it, and for what it is, it is an amazing firmware! The auto turtle caught me out at first, but it is so damn fast. I am down and up in barely over a second. I also like how I can arm with throttle up and then lower to zero to start motors, works super well in a few tricky maneuver situations. Thank you for the overview! For everyone else… if you are reading this, you owe it to yourself to give this firmware a try. It is super fun on little quads, and once you get the hang of everything, takes a day or two, you’ll really enjoy it. Happy flying!

[@andrewtrackim3542]

I'm having a similar issue, flashed quicksilver but I'm still not seeing yaw input from the gyro on the setup tab in quicksilver, any help would be much appreciated!!!!

[@knoopx]

oh wow, they made massive progress, congrats to the devs! last time I checked they didnt even have a configurator

[@ruftime]

Thank You Mark! Quicksilver has been the Goto firmware for whoop racing in our club for the last 8 months😎

[@ChrisHarmon1]

I loaded this on my Mobula 6 HDZero thats essentially stock with lighter canopy/plastic motor screws and it flys SO much better. I used the default 65mm 1s PID tune and it flys better then any of my other Betaflight quads ever did. Just feels really locked in acro. It's also super easy to learn as it's stripped down vs Betaflights options for just racing/freestyle. Now have about 7 quads running it and I have heard it works well on larger quads so today I'm going to try it on my Crux35.

[@January_Cold]

Give the 2" preset a try

[@darrylmeans725]

I just switched to Quicksilver 3 weeks ago… so when I see you talking about it, I know I’m on the right path!

[@ProjectMockingbird]

Awesome that you are looking at QS! It truly is the best angle mode on the planet for eLRS Whoops!

[@apachesmokewoundedsniper]

I’m using it for a few months now and it’s working great, I’m still testing it using betaflight and quicksilver and quicksilver feels so much smoother imo

[@piotrmalinowski6054]

Happy to see you touching quicksilver topic. No meter how hard i tried i never was able to get performance even close to what QS offers in 65-75mm realm. Love it

[@piotrmalinowski6054]

I mean with BF ofc

[@QSpeedRacer]

Hmm maybe I will try on moblite

[@amin0_acid310]

Thanks for the video. Looks like I flashed QS to my Fractal 65 a few days early lol. It's not that hard to figure out (I had to use an older version as .95 has elrs 3 and I'm still on 2.x because of spi whoops). I'm pretty sure I'll be making a lot of changes to my whoop fleet and finally upgrade all my ELRS rx's to 3.x. It looks intimidating at first, but once it's set up I noticed a difference in performance. QS is easily worth learning if you like whoops. Cheers!

[@B3D_FPV]

Nice overview for an awesome firmware Mark. :) Just a quick correction; @9:38, that is 3D mode, not bidirectional dshot.

[@CapungPlastik]

I used to fly silverware and QS really give that same feel.

[@DroneOn]

Man, i used to run silverware alot, had my own custom compile. I think i may have been the first to put a port on a bwhoop brushed board instead of soldering the leads to flash... its come a long way baby.

[@haks_123]

Hey nice walkthrough, important question: does the latest quick silver install elrs 3.0 on the spi rx?

[@InfinityLoops]

🥑My favorite firmware!🥑

[@uavtech]

I saw that, which made me look and was surprised (finally). Got some great whoop features. Auto-turtle is just my fav. Love it.

[@InfinityLoops]

@UAV Tech I'm so happy to see more people using it. The dev team is also amazingly awesome!

[@piotrmalinowski6054]

Using that opportunity I would like to thank you for sharing QS with ur audience (including me). It truly changed my entire micro fpv experience and I wouldn't go back even if someone pays me. Kudos to QS dev team and to you for popularizing it!

[@masonnordman8258]

I'll have to give it a try! What about it is better than betaflight ?

[@uavtech]

- Auto-turtle (the big one for me) - Earth based Yaw (will be in BF 4.4 or 4.5 too) - Ability to control Angle/Level controller more finite. - Templates are nice for some BNF. - Idle Up easy on a switch (vs. Airmode). Whooping is a lot of bumping. - etc...

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting indeed, Mark! Thanks for the tutorial! 😃 I'm definitely going to give it a try! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@cbro1111]

'had a hard time with QS on my first go around about a year ago. 2nd time with a different FC; no problems. feels like a brushed silverware on angle mode. fun

[@lara7375]

is the redpine protocoll available for frsky spi receivers?

[@chaotix777]

Yes

[@TehTegu]

I've heard a lot of good about Quicksilver so I was curious about this video, hoping to see why, as the title says, it's the best whoop firmware. The video started in a promising way: I was eager to hear what I have been missing out. But.. after watching the whole video, I don't think I really got an answer. The video is mostly about flashing the firmware and an overview of the configurator. While it's useful for setting up Quicksilver, it did not feel like the actual reason to use Quicksilver. I recall automatic turtle mode was mentioned. Sounds sweet, how does it look and feel in action? But in addition to that, there must be something else I've been missing out, what?

[@uavtech]

I somewhat touched on that in the setup video. I'm planning to do a comparison in a future video: QS vs. BF.

[@robinsonraymond8779]

@@uavtech plz do QS vs BF .can't wait

[@Tonynux]

@@uavtech I'm interested to this comparison.

[@MulitiaFPV]

@@uavtech this didn't age well.

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

This firmware is epic AF

[@porlockos]

Hey when promossed another video of this series ?

[@ericcoker8784]

I was soo excited to try this, so my sacrificial lamb was BetaFPv Meteor65 ELRS (2022). Everything was smooth, even figuring out how to bind. But 2 problems: 1) Flight modes, all I got was ACRO and Horizon. Is there more? 2) when applying throttle, it would get 1/2 inch off the ground, then super yaw spin! I even applied the BMI270 super tip. I then had to reflash all my BF stuff to see if the gyro was screwed. It was fine like I thought it would be. Maybe I try one of the preset Mobula6 SPI elrs that is listed. BTW, I love the tech you do and your style. I think I did use one of your whoop presets in BF. But now I can put a face to the tune. Thanks again!

[@8BiT_fpv]

🥑🥑🥑heck yea, quicksilver on all my quads that let me swap the firmware. Lil bit of 🥑magik,🥑 and alien👽tekk, spread on toast, some great flight firmware!🥑🥑🥑

[@hprompt166]

how do you access quicksilver osd? It say RRR with the right stick but it won't access it. mode 2

[@NORB_FPV]

Does anyone know which target to use for the 2022 meteor65pro elrs when flashing Quicksilve?

[@thePwnetratorYT]

Did you ever figure that out? I’m curious as well

[@brownster4865]

Brushed + Silverware + Mockingbird - I still can't find a brushless whoop that flies anywhere close to the Brushed Hummingbird with the Silverware/Mockingbird configuration. Does such a thing exist today? Any active project to move these advancements forward? Perhaps not since there is not much money in the F0 Flight Controller market but thought I'd toss the question out there and see.

[@Cre8ionz.]

Hey 👋🏽 I have an Quicksilver related question 🙋🏻‍♂️ I have an HM 1S 5A ELRS 200 mW board and QS shows me 5 power levels in the Configurator.. Level 1 must be 25 mW, level 2 is ?! mW ? can level 5 be more than 200 mW ? but will level 5 fry my board then ? it's like the orig. Mobula 6 board with BTFL, which only could do 25 mW but you could set it to 100 mW and it indeed has more range but it wasn't recommended, because you could fry your board.. didn't tried out the OSD yet, to see if there are also 5 power levels..

[@litterbug4023]

Timing is AWESOME. HEart of whoop season! If only it supported older f1 or f3 boards!

[@fractalengineering]

Oh yes it’s been my go to ever since spi elrs; made it effortless to get rigs I couldn’t tune fo the life of me on bf4.3 to fly like butter. Super responsive dev and support as well, had bugs fixe, new targets made and features implemented within hours if even Moved over all my BNF to it; I don’t know if anyone else doing it and it does bring some support cases to get folks going but once they do I get nothing but shiny happy testimonials Guacamolize your quad today with Quicksilver 🥑

[@chaotix777]

🥰

[@junkthe]

Any firmware for cetus pro version 1.0 ?

[@Mr_Meaty]

Have you done the "benefits of quicksilver over betaflight" video yet?

[@burdfamfpv]

Much needed info thanks a bunch 🙏 ✌️

[@poimunky]

Hi Mark so tried this on my mob6 and flashed fine but when I plugged it back in after the flash it wouldn't come out of bootloader mode? can you help?

[@erikvf7]

Hey Mark, so Quicksilver is the GoTo choice for tinywhoops, right? Even if it looks like having less features than BF? Like dynamic idle, RPM filtering, etc? I flashed QS to my 75mm 1s whoop, I felt it became more responsive, but I also got little less flight time compared to BF. It felt like a BF with increased PIDs, but I liked it. I'm running stock BLheli_S 24khz, do you recommend flashing Bluejay with 48/96 khz?

[@ivananikejev]

Can you use it on a whoop with the naked Vista?

[@Pozzix65]

that's interesting...Can u make a video with a real configuration? and for PID tuning on QS?

[@uavtech]

Yes

[@BooDevil65]

What happened to automatic turtle mode?

[@hawkeyemediallc8804]

It doesn't seem to support the Ghost protocol for receivers. Won't recognize it and as the Serial Protocol cycles through, it never shows anything for Ghost.

[@uavtech]

Nope doesn't support ghost yet

[@chaotix777]

We should be able to support Ghost fairly soon, just need some dev gear to code it.

[@REDhlg]

@uavtech Did you happen to try BFs 4.4 new angle mode calculations that Chris Rosser suggested?

[@uavtech]

Yeah. QS has had for a while. There is just other stuff. Like 3 or 4 things that BF doesn't have right now that are really nice whooping.

[@ProjectMockingbird]

I'd really like to know how that PR differs in end use from using FPV_ANGLE_MIX. From the description it seems almost the same effect.

[@marc_frank]

@@ProjectMockingbird that's what I was asking myself, too

[@ArchonLicht]

So, why would I use Quicksilver again?

[@alpexfpv3723]

Will this be good for 2/2.5 inch tooth picks also

[@uavtech]

yes

[@alpexfpv3723]

@@uavtech cheers mark 🍻🍻🍻

[@danieldewindt3919]

What is the big difference with betaflight. It looks like betaflight has the same options and more options. Why is this better? I see in the comments that flying feels smoother than betaflight?

[@uavtech]

auto-turtle mode. Otherwise, kind of the same with less options. But the Auto-turtle is clutch.

[@techx8075]

This did not work for me. I flashed the Quicksilver firmware on my Betafpv 85 pro 2. Now Quicksilver does not recognize that my quad is connected. Tried to restore betaflight firmware and cannot connect. So i can't recommend using this firmware.

[@ArakNafein]

I tried to setup QuickSilver, but I noticed the aux channels only work as on or off. I was unable to get QuickSilver to work with my radio as it's setup to do multiple modes on 1 aux channel. Bummer, it seemed like a really cool firmware.

[@uavtech]

Yeah, one of the limitations.

[@chaotix777]

Easily worked around by using special functions in the tx.

[@ArakNafein]

@@chaotix777 Can you elaborate? I would like to give it a shot, but my TX setup is pretty complex.

[@chaotix777]

@@ArakNafein if using openvtx or edgetx on your radio you use the special functions screen. Pick a switch to use, set it in the position you want certain channels to activate and add those channels, one per special function. Example would be Switch SE in middle position in this case is Arm(ch5-150) and Level(ch6-150) and Racemode(ch7-150) so a single position of a 3 way switch is activating 3 channels at the same time. Bardwell has a video about it, I can't paste images here unfortunately.

[@ArakNafein]

@@chaotix777 Thanks for the overview. I'll look into special functions and see if I can incorporate them into my setup.

[@Cre8ionz.]

no LED options ?

[@uavtech]

limited.

[@Cre8ionz.]

@@uavtech RGB Lidar Scanner would be cool.. but I found nothing about LED in general..

[@IggyBiggy]

doest this work with elrs 3.x and spi receiver?

[@uavtech]

Yes. The lates version is 3.0 ELRS.

[@BaskenFPV]

I install it also on one of my 5 inch copter with TmotorF7 flightcontoller all looks nice (see my last video) i will test it outside later......

[@samory5399]

Hi Mark, so for example a F7 45A or F7 55A , what is the number 45A/55A refers to ?

[@uavtech]

ESC amp rating. I assume it is an all-in-one ESC.

[@smallerthanagrainofsand9008]

@@uavtech ya, the iflight beast aio f7 I was wondering what the difference is between a 45a and a 55a

[@uavtech]

10 amps of ESC rating throughput is the diff.

[@kubersoldaat]

Is QuickSilver compatible with the 2s Happymodel X12 5in1 board? I could not find the target.

[@uavtech]

if you can't find the BF target name in QS, I would ask on the QS Discord. My guess is they don't have the target yet if you can't see it there.

[@B3D_FPV]

That board has the Crazybee F4 target which Quicksilver does support

[@kubersoldaat]

@B3D_FPV What ELRS firmware is backed in to the flash?

[@ronaldopassanhadesousaguer7581]

what is the expresslrs version? 3 or 2

[@Tokyo_Dom]

0.95 is expresslrs 3.0 (including 1khz mode for SPI). 0.94 is for expresslrs 2.x

[@noramas.]

@@Tokyo_Dom I believe 0.9.1 for elrs2

[@izemanevobike]

@@noramas. Yes. And from 0.9.2 on it's ELRS 3

[@manuel_herrero_fpv]

Hello, does It work for F3 boards? Thanks

[@uavtech]

Unfortunately no.

[@hweber2787]

should there really be an improvement to betaflight?

[@uavtech]

Yes

[@Fleche_FPV]

@@uavtech Why ?

[@saggyballsfpv]

Secret Sauce

[@ProjectMockingbird]

Should there be? Of course things should be better than other things! :P IS there an improvement in angle mode from Betaflight. 1000%. I could go into great detail, but suffice it to say that QS re-thought how Angle mode works and improved it in every way...and coupled with a lot of the modern thoughts BF, Emu and and others have done with filtering, etc, you have a very easy to tune quad that performs amazing.

[@olafschermann1592]

Great

[@BullitFPV]

Does it work with the emax tinyhawk 3?

[@uavtech]

What is the BF target?

[@BullitFPV]

@@uavtech STM32F411

[@uavtech]

It has to have a target name in front of that. That is the processor type. QS does support the F405, but need to know the target nane in BF to see if exists in QS.

[@BullitFPV]

@@uavtech I checked in Betaflight and it is shown as a matekf411rx

[@chaotix777]

@@BullitFPV yes it's supported

[@brundle_fly5123]

I guess it's time to drink the 🥑 flavored kool-aid!

[@KOrnhOliO1]

[@mfrfpv9079]

Mark pushing non BF firmware must be good

[@uavtech]

Exactly. I would not be loading on a 7", but for whooping, some of the features are awesome. The auto-turtle is clutch.

[@chaotix777]

@@uavtech it'll work on 7" but we obviously don't have a preset for that, yet...

[@samavella8831]

Thanks for the video Mark! Definitely something to tryout! I have the TinyHawk 2 with Crossfire and the new BetaFPV Meteor 65 Pro (2022) with Crossfire that I may convert to QickSilver. At the start if your video you mentioned that the best feature of QS is had automatic Turtle Mode, but unless I missed it, I did not see where that feature is set? Thinks.

[@uavtech]

I cover in detail in the other, along with other stuff, but basically by default it works (leave turtle mode "ON" for mode setting.

[@cccagley5276]

Probably covered in the paid video in his patron stuff.

[@razorshark4]

Windows Chrome or Google Edge - Made me giggle.

[@flyingsharksfpv]

🥑🥑🥑🥑🥑

[@DamageincFpv]

Just an overview the title should say, join my patreon is what he means to say. I'll tell you if you send me money.

[@uavtech]

or thanks for the support!

[@cccagley5276]

I wouldn't say it that way. These videos take time and effort. It's up to you to join patreon or not.

[@phiveone]

I patreon and it keeps paying for itself. Why are you so good Mark?

[@knoopx]

you can always do your own homework or wait and thank him for eventually releasing it free for all, thing not everybody does

[@IvanEfimovLimon]

Someone just jelly 😆

[@marc_frank]

lol Windows Chrome or Google Edge

[@uavtech]

Oops

[@knoopx]

sadly the only engine supporting webusb, go blame mozilla and apple for not doing their work!

[@January_Cold]

Windows Chrome or Google Edge 😂

[@RBXXXX]

I hate Beta fight. These fpv drone companies make millions. So why don't they make their own firmware like DJI?

[@uavtech]

Because OpenSource is superior. BF being King. Granted, for whoops QuickSilver rocks!

[@MulitiaFPV]

why do you hate BF? That's odd, to "hate" a firmware software.

[@LehtusBphree2flyFPV]

This firmware is epic AF