Musicians Who Stole Their Music

[@lazyhammerwieldingpenguin2247]

Those moments where you don't know if you're going to hear "Under Pressure" or "Ice Ice Baby" are more dramatic than any movie.

[@jesterisinsane]

True

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

Russian Roulette Playlist 5 Under Pressures, 1 Ice Ice Baby Put it on shuffle

[@Somefool669]

@@JeevesAnthrozaurUS now that's just cruel

[@samrtnr97]

It's especially bad if you're at work and can't look up the difference on your phone

[@wjsproductions1784]

What I’ve found is that Ice Ice Baby has a faster tempo than Under Pressure.

[@prageruwu69]

"kidzbop-ing the works of black artists to sell them to otherwise tenative suburbia" is the funniest description of plagiarization in the 50s i've ever heard

[@thehillisalive]

The fact that the judge in the Harrison vs the Chiffons case composed opera in his spare time is just such a flex to me

[@m.w.9899]

"Your honor, how can you judge my case when you've never composed music?" *Judge breaks out into self composed opera*

[@thelostpulpo6314]

Talk about bad luck for harrison lol

[@Vesperitis]

Less flex and more 'Mr Universe era Schwarzennegar flex'

[@cmasterson]

When they was picking what judge to have for the case they knew to pick the one that wrote music lmao. Gold.

[@sir_s]

He was keeping the dream alive

[@ianbyrne465]

Imagine you're so unlucky that you go to court for a stolen song, only to get the one judge that writes operas as a hobby

[@slaughterround643]

I'm shocked there's ever been such a thing as a court lawyer who has any grasp on reality, never mind a grasp on the particular topic that relates to the case at hand...

[@PV-po6zt]

@@slaughterround643 When you put it that way, it really sounds like there's some deeper issues within the law besides more obvious ones

[@charlieben3354]

Yup, sounds like something that'd happen to George

[@aagh8714]

@@slaughterround643 im pretty sure you get a pretty warped view of the world when you read about cases of people masturbating and then cumming on the police who come to take him away, people impaling their own hands with pencils while having sex, and trying to get around prostitution laws by standing on balconies instead of streets

[@slaughterround643]

@@aagh8714 are you defending the police and judicial system rn? fucking disgusting, stay away from me

[@doom_delrey9736]

Vanilla Ice looks like a character from Netflix’s gritty continuation of Lazy Town.

[@VicEntity]

Robbie Rotten's long lost son that Sportacus kills brutally after a touching episode of father and son bonding

[@NimhLabs]

Yeah... the 90s and 80s were full of people who looked like that I blame the Second Wave and Third Wave of Ska... because they are very easy to blame stuff on

[@IRsBlueManMoney-Channel]

Wait what? That’s a thing??

[@starkillersneed]

He looks like if the creators of the Emoji Movie made a Meme Movie and hired him to play the Chad Stride guy

[@NimhLabs]

@@starkillersneed Yeah, that is pretty much the back story to Vanilla Ice right there

[@DecoytheSkeletalBoy]

Jesus, I forgot how repulsively smarmy Vanilla Ice was...

[@m.w.9899]

He did that same schtick in court. If I were a judge, I would have laughed my ass off. Son, get out of here, and take your hair dye with you.

[@Lolavs]

It's midnight in Serbia. I'm shirtless and wearing a bear head. Quinton is talking about the Rutles. This has been a good day.

[@Flowtail]

I don't know what a bear head is so i am forced to imagine that you were wearing a full bear head

[@Lolavs]

@@Flowtail No, literally that. It's in my profile picture.

[@thebrutusmars]

It’s midnight in England. I’ve exterminated the Karlings. This has been a good day.

[@ognjenrandjelovic6228]

Imam skoro identično iskustvo.

[@nahuelgioia4177]

I didn't know that the MATN TW/CK character gimmick accounts were allowed to comment elsewhere, but this is a fascinating discovery.

[@squid-boy4178]

the Rutles is such a funny story because multiple Beatles were trying to help the producers not get sued by the people who owned the Beatles catalog. If you wanna know how messed up the music industry is this is a perfect example

[@rosebyanyname]

Fun fact: Liam Gallagher of Oasis thought Spinal Tap was an actual band. He only learned it wasn’t when him and his brother went to see them live in the early 2000s.

[@Laurabeck329]

To be fair I would love to live in a reality in which spinal tap existed

[@mariaquiet6211]

@@Laurabeck329 in real life they're known as Anvil

[@tommytomthms5]

...not a real band... until it was.

[@tommytomthms5]

@@Laurabeck329 welcome to it, because it sort-of got willed into life by inspiring 1,000+ spinal taps. (Oh and it is a real medical thing, I had one, came back negative btw)

[@K.Marie119]

@@tommytomthms5 I've had multiple... They're fricking awful.

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

You didn't include one of the more interesting aspects of the "My Sweet Lord" case: Harrison's own manager bought the rights to "He's So Fine" -- not to protect Harrison from being sued, but to continue the lawsuit and profit from it himself.

[@jb888888888]

His at the time soon to be ex-manager, yeah in order to milk more money from his former client. Harrison himself eventually bought the rights to HSF.

[@cookieface80]

That's genius.

[@xbmpr]

He was such a bastard and Paul called it all the way back in 1969 lol

[@BugsyFoga]

Musicians seeing classic music:"I'LL STEAL IT , NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW "

[@pikgears]

more like, "I'll steal it and nobody can sue me!"

[@Jayfive276]

Sorry but what’s the joke here? You’ve just repeated the point of the video.

[@Piiavc]

@@Jayfive276 they're quoting an old cartoon with over the top voice acting

[@DanJackson1977]

@@Jayfive276 look up "The Dover Boys" on KZbin. You'll get it.

[@DanJackson1977]

@@pikgears it's a reference.

[@sithisrants4154]

6:42 2020 Quinton be like "This 29 minute video is pretty long" 2022 Quinton be like "Idk if this 9-hour video, being the follow-up to a 6-hour breakdown of Victorious, can possibly cover the breadth of this one Nickelodeon show"

[@quintariusgooch]

true true

[@anth636]

Bro made a 40+ hour saga for three sitcoms 💀

[@santiagorosas3543]

You have guts showing music samples on KZbin.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@@thesandwichslayer9948 Wait really?

[@esthersmith3056]

"Actually, we're both stealing from an earlier public domain work" is a well-known legal defence which should have worked for George Harrison. Otherwise, the first person to steal from a public domain work would essentially remove it from the public domain -- this would be a world where Disney literally owns all the fairy tales they've based movies on.

[@allnaturalfigjam310]

Disney is very much trying to do this unfortunately :(

[@wadespencer3623]

@@allnaturalfigjam310 Yeah I was gonna say they definitely would be very happy to say they own all those old tales.

[@chiaratraber5885]

Which is ridiculous because their movies aren't even accurate. Any version of Cinderella that doesn't include the stepsisters chopping off parts of their feet and the the doves telling the prince he took the wrong one by saying there's blood in the shoes (that part was a kind of sing-song hence why it was the most memorable part to me) is not the fairy tale I was told as a bedtime story. Yes I care about that more than I should but leaving that part out makes the story way less memorable

[@GamecockChris]

Hey Quinton, 3rd year law student here. Really excellent job explaining copyright. So many youtubers are lazy and explain it completely wrong, but its clear you really did your research here. Just wanted to let you know it didn't go unnoticed. Hope you get your subscriber goals!

[@lillianward2810]

The Rutles is honestly an amazing parody. I love that every once in a while Cheese and Onions used to show up on torrenting sites as a Beatles “lost track.”

[@seancdaug]

That confusion goes back long before torrenting, too. A 1978 Beatles bootleg album, Indian Rope Trick, actually tossed "Cheese and Onions" in and credited it to John Lennon. Which led to a Beatles fan angrily confronting Neil Innes in the early 1980s with audio evidence that Innes had plagiarized an unreleased Lennon track. Innes humored the fan and listened to the evidence: the demo he had himself recorded some years before. >_

[@fetamean]

See, vanilla ice is so not hip hop even then that he didn’t know how sampling worked. Guy tried to fight his blatant rip off for so long.

[@TTeuio6969420]

Is that why the stand basically erased stuff?(I feel like I will be made fun in some way)

[@yukisohma19]

lukewarm take

[@lunareclipse2401]

and tried to argue that they sound different when they fuckin dont

[@munjee2]

@@lunareclipse2401 at a separate point he basically said its just a sample, most hip hop stars did it but he got in trouble for it just because his was just SOOOoo popular and they got jealous of him

[@lunareclipse2401]

@@munjee2 lmao

[@rockisheaven]

Surprised you didn’t mention John Fogerty being accused of plagiarizing himself, which I always thought was ridiculous

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

They Fogerty made the original? ...I'll see myself out. Sorry.

[@suprememeowmix9613]

When a man’s first six or so albums all have the same sound, you’d think his following albums would sound similar too. I guess not

[@mariaquiet6211]

It was cause he relinquished copyright to his former label to get out of a contract and "Old Man Down The Road" sounds sorta kinda a lot like "Run Through The Jungle" but not enough for the courts to see it as "plagiarism" (of a song he still, obviously, wrote) and honestly even if it was "plagiarism" I can't see any human court siding with the label because WHO THE FUCK would want to be that guy???

[@dc9662]

The other one he didn't mention (which would have been a great case to act as a counter-point to the John Fogerty lawsuit), was when Geffen Records sued Neil Young for NOT SOUNDING ENOUGH LIKE NEIL YOUNG???!!! Well, it may have been the crime of giving his label three albums in a row (Old Ways [Country], Trans [Experimental Electronic Music], and Everybody's Rockin' [50's Rock and Roll]) that they considered less commercial, and/or marketable than his past musical output. Trans, and Everybody's Rockin' were released, with a second album titled Old Ways (not the same album as the other, shelved album Old Ways) to be released next. The other albums released for Geffen didn't do much better either, and Geffen sued Neil Young for making the art HE wanted to make (pissing off David Geffen was a bonus, I guess), and not the art THEY wanted him to make. That's also a really interesting case, imho.

[@duffman18]

Not that ridiculous really. It's the same thing as when you're at university, if you get 2 different essays in 2 separate classes that are basically the same question, you can't just write 1 essay and submit it for both assignments. Because any essay you submit immediately becomes the property of the university, and so you can plagiarise yourself because you don't actually own the thing you created. Record companies own the music artists make usually, not the artists themselves.

[@IbexGundyr]

Quinton: ...this already pretty long video Also Quinton: *Comes out with a several hour long lore movie*

[@uelssom]

Comon misconception: the Ghostbusters theme is actually plagiarized from Neil Circiega's "Bustin"

[@jonathanbush6197]

But, but it feels good to bust loose.

[@ajzeg01]

Let me sleep in your bed!

[@travisbaker8393]

That anxiety you mentioned about "Ice Ice Baby/Under Pressure" is very real.

[@Pendragondnd]

I like to play Mouth Pressure at parties to hit people with the double wammy.

[@chocobear4078]

@@Pendragondnd Mouth Pressure?

[@Pendragondnd]

@@chocobear4078 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gn-teWOBeKx_m7M

[@chocobear4078]

@@Pendragondnd My god Thank you

[@shaolinotter]

not for me, they're both good

[@mikegibus]

"you see their early albums and there's more cover songs than harrison songs" *shows a hard day's night, the first beatles album to not have covers*

[@haakenbailey7381]

To be fair, there are no Harrison songs on that either.

[@mikegibus]

@@haakenbailey7381 i mean, there's one he sings in, but fair enough

[@jotarobat]

You know, I've never seen vanilla ice with that dyed streak in his hair and now that I have I've decided that I will atomize the gallbladder of anyone who tries to show it to me again from now on

[@thisisbetterthanmyprevious6674]

I agree.

[@slaughterround643]

if anyone even mentions Vanilla Ice to me again, I will rend them apart to their constituent atoms

[@HobGungan]

"Cheese and Onions" was also partly "A Day in the Life", particularly the ending with the crescendo. One of the great subtle Beatle lore jokes being "Day" ends with one of the longest sustained piano notes recorded at that time, while "Cheese" ends with the shortest.

[@lillianward2810]

I think the crackly vocals on it are also a parody of Day in the Life. So good.

[@dragonetafireball]

Quinton is making the copyright gods cream in their pants about how much ad revenue they can pitch from this vid. They’ll be fighting over who gets what.

[@hazelnotxyz]

Fair use 😎

[@dragonetafireball]

@@hazelnotxyz Fair Use rarely stops at least one record label trying something.

[@hazelnotxyz]

@@dragonetafireball Yeah I know, I just made a topical joke 😅

[@wj11jam78]

Better they fight eachother than quinton.

[@mikecarroll9197]

I saw vanilla ice live a few years back at a $5 concert and it was literally just him singing along to other people's songs like he was a nu metal singer and bring all the 40 year old wine moms on stage to dance with him. It was beautifully pathetic.

[@nickstadler1906]

Side note on the Ghostbusers/I Want a New Drug case: Almost everyone seems to forget or ignore how similar both songs are to M's "Pop Muzik" from 1979.

[@gilbert3672]

I heard that song on the radio and thought it sound familiar. Now I know why.

[@eruption257]

New York, London, Paris, Munich. Everybody talk about "Pop Muzik".

[@lainiwakura1776]

Not really? I know both Pop Muzik and Ghostbusters and not feeling too many similarities.

[@derfgerps4016]

You can find similar chord progressions in songs from every genre and era all day long. Just like art being a microcosm of life most art is influenced or inspired by existing works directly and indirectly especially today. Originality is a much thinner line to walk than people understand.

[@iancole2279]

Movie soundtracks often take “heavy inspiration” from classical music. If you’ve ever heard the Star Wars soundtrack and then listened to Bela Bartok and Gustav Holst you’d get it. When making a movie, directors often put classical music over the scenes to show what they want for the official soundtrack so oftentimes the original overlaid music sneaks its way into soundtracks.

[@mutantfreak48]

nowadays this is done with soundtracks from other movies too

[@chistinelane]

Evangelion takes classical music to its fullest potential

[@buranflakes]

2001: A Space Odyssey actually had an entire original soundtrack composed that was nixed in favour of its "placeholder" music; Thus Spoke Zarathustra

[@marocat4749]

The not intentionally trashy metal all takes from that, and pretty sure most music is partly inspired(all classical music, not only that stereotype, including shantees, drinking songs, whatever folk songs, african folk music, afroamerican soul music, , ..., several traditional music worldwide, just metal is from that specific one, i think) Just any classical music whatever sort is safer usually because there exists no copyright, which why its used, not because its not known. Even freddy mercury gave musicians advice, listen classical music like opera, (cause thats what he learned)

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

John williams just takes music basically, temp music or not

[@muticere]

Half the time I'm listening and like "nah, that seems like a stretch, doesn't sound similar enough to me" - Next Scene - Quinton: they admitted that they stole the song

[@WilliamMaranciMashups]

I make mashups so this video interests me a lot

[@deferencetodusk]

I like your mashups

[@minmax5]

I make mashcore/breakcore tracks and I feel the same way!

[@frost_dias]

Quinton pin this man right now, he's a legend

[@CrowTRobot]

I send your mashups to basically everyone. I think Deftones and Death Grips are your muse. Keep it up man, love your stuff!

[@MichaelTries]

Hiya buddy!

[@zozzleberryfin1735]

I know that it’s not at all a unique observation but the pain I feel whenever Quinton mentions a topic but doesn’t go into it to save time in these older videos is immeasurable. I feel robbed. How could this have happened.

[@rubywest5166]

Did Quinton just hint that December's just a knock off November?

[@linuscunttips]

Yes

[@ewwpoorpeople5684]

Yeah pretty much

[@mistersoupmannovember2263]

To be fair they are holidays at the end of both

[@robafire9161]

Aigh

[@ObeseLeprechaun]

@@mistersoupmannovember2263 Only if you're American

[@benstyman7792]

I could listen to Quinton talk about random stuff like this for hours

[@shayZero]

I know right. Ive learned so much about Garfeild in the past and I've never watched or read any of it in my life lol

[@thedogskneecaps3292]

Damn, you're brave playing clips of beatles songs

[@neoasura]

Its a shame too, because a lot of younger kids are never going to know of the Beatles since they never hear it on KZbin.

[@celestialgloam7439]

@@neoasura Most younger people know beatles, honestly. Like queen, they're something that just gets past down and are likable by even people that tend to dislike past generations music. But that might just be british thing.

[@thisisbetterthanmyprevious6674]

I have met people who are the bee’s knees, but never in my life have I met an individual who was the dog’s knees. Not until now. Inform me, chosen one, how do you become such a rare set of knees? Have you stolen the knees? Where do you get them from? Have you ever been another species’ knees? I must know.

[@alexanderjames5714]

@@celestialgloam7439 in Canada, younger people know of the Beatles, Queen, and Pink Floyd but not the music itself. Without the labels and artists being more open to sharing the music it will be forgotten

[@seanathans103]

@@neoasura eh? the entire beatles discography is on youtube officially

[@calebchometa1382]

I do feel kinda weird about using Marvin Gaye's likeness as the antagonist in the music video. I understand why but it wasn't his choice ya know?

[@sotneagull7557]

Was coming to say this like damn the man did not need to be the person they come for like he’s been dead for like 30 years by that point

[@NEGROGAYMER54]

Yeah it's so stupid to ridiculize him like it's his fault the people who run his estate are greedy, that's what keeps me from liking their parody.

[@sc82665]

Yeah, that was just disrespectful. The song is a big middle finger Marvin Gaye.They specifically called him out by name. Like "Screw you dead guy! We're going to take your song, and use it to mock you because... your family did a bad thing decades after you died."

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

To be honest, it does suck, but at the same time, when you think about it, it's actually another part of the meta aspect. See, as people have pointed out, Gaye is _dead._ And he's been dead for _over forty years._ The people who were attacking Blurred Lines were his estate, meaning that they were using Marvin's brand--his public face essentially--to try and scam money out of an artist, and it worked. While Marvin Gaye has nothing to do with this, the use of his image--even if it's unintentional--feeds into the meta aspect of the song by using the face of Marvin Gaye to belittle the faceless gaggle of individuals laying claim to his legacy in order to profit off of it. _And it worked._ Using Marvin Gaye as the villain of this song is no more or less disrespectful than the estate of Marvin Gaye turning his image into a shaky litigation money machine.

[@FalconPain]

The only thing that could make it worse is if a member of Marvin Gaye's family was also directly responsible for his death. ...sigh...

[@MrMallard19]

Whoever gave Vanilla Ice his first big break, and/or the substance that led to that someone giving Vanilla Ice his big break, should be named, shamed and laughed out of the music industry

[@aarontheperson6867]

it resulted in that one jim carrey sketch that i kinda liked tho

[@culwin]

If nobody liked him or his music, he would never have gotten into the industry. He was hugely popular for a brief time and made a lot of people a lot of money.

[@MrMallard19]

@@culwin I doubt anyone wanted Go Ninja, Go Ninja GO! to exist before it happened except some rich bastard who was jowl-deep in a mountain of coke.

[@culwin]

@@MrMallard19 Well you're talking about a movie theme song that was after his popularity was over. But if nobody liked that either, you would never have heard it.

[@mariaquiet6211]

Public Enemy were early supporters. Try and laugh Chuck D out of the industry. Go ahead. Try.

[@patrickmitchell9068]

What luck do you have when you have a court case about music being ripped off and the judge makes Opera's in his spare time.

[@avawarner4148]

Crossing my fingers that the controversy between ‘Treasure’ and ‘Baby I’m Yours’ is covered- it’s the most modern case that really got me into the subject of sampling versus stealing

[@elbencotv]

Ava Warner It is a shame that it wasn't on the video. Bruno Mars just stole it after asking for permission to make a cover.

[@l.mandolin]

As a kid that obsessed over the Beatles and strange musical/band events years ago, this was a lovely trip down memory lane with some surprising new info

[@slaughterround643]

As a scouser, I will tear myself asunder if I hear about the Beatles one more time... O.o

[@cremetangerine82]

@@slaughterround643 I’m sorry.

[@flamentnagel]

when he sets the extra stretch goals, it just makes me sad that i can't subscribe again :(

[@Wyattporter]

You can register alternate accounts

[@orraviv1536]

you can make another account

[@NatetheNerdy]

Since I'm pretty sure it's against the TOS to do that, instead make a KZbin profile for your family and friends, subscribe to a couple channels you think they'll like, and then, most importantly, make sure you don't forget to tell them about their new accounts. However, I imagine if you did forget no one could blame you.

[@Wyattporter]

You could make a youtube account for each of your DID personalities and they’d never know

[@plasticbutler]

Weird Al was able to finally parody "Jack and Diane" in his guest stint in The Simpsons.

[@truegeekygoober2590]

Can’t wait for the icarly vid!!

[@BBNV76]

same

[@Wyattporter]

And the Animorphs one now

[@evanorsomething909]

yes

[@trumpetnerd8431]

Same

[@Svenir]

same

[@larryinc64]

A note about The Rutles movie, the Bluray """"remaster"""" butchers the film with widescreen cropping, bad audio edits, and more. It's best to track down the 4:3 DVD release.

[@limetwistanimations8628]

Are you ever going to add citations? You bring up a lot of topics, and I'd like to know your research so I can take a look myself.

[@voidaspects9173]

As someone who actually tried to write a paper based off a topic he covered in a video... this! It was way harder than I thought it would be

[@everfluctuating]

@@ethanhanks200 he doesnt *have* to, but his videos are pretty scholarly and it would be helpful for those who want to use them in that context

[@Connor.Kelly_]

I make videos where a lot of research is involved and it’s harder to put citations in the video because you use so many sources. So yeah you can find a lot of legal cases, for this specific topic.

[@yemmohater2796]

Citations are for people who want to cover up lies with "proof"

[@limetwistanimations8628]

@@yemmohater2796 man, you are going to be so mad when you watch a Tom Scott video.

[@nathanlevesque7812]

Music copyright law is madness and everybody knows it.

[@borginburkes1819]

There’s only so many chord progressions that actually sound good. And there’s only so many note/syllable combinations that can go over a chord progressions. And if you’re writing pop music, you’re limiting yourself even more with the arrangement of the melody and the syllables. We’re literally running out of new music. Most of these “plagiarism” cases, apart from the ghostbusters case, are all just cases of unconscious inspiration. I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve accidentally written “Beat it” by Michael Jackson or “creep” by Radiohead.

[@LimabeanStudios]

Recently I played my friend a song I made, it turns out I fully recreated part of a Katy Perry song. People who don't make music really shouldn't give input on 90% of these situations.

[@borginburkes1819]

@@LimabeanStudios 100% its lawyers and business tycoons who are running these cases, its rarely the actual artist who comes in and complains. like with the blurred lines case, they literally only shared a beat and a groove. not even similar at all. do you know how many thousands of songs have 4/4 beats? at this point, if you argue long and hard enough, you can compare literally any two songs and say that one was stolen.

[@ReidBlakley]

I wrote a song a while back whose main riff was really similar to one a friend of mine wrote; I just asked permission and offered him a writing credit (which he didn’t take) before we put it out. Next time his band played their song in concert though he said “this is a cover of our friend Reid Blakley”; cheeky devil. Mine: theplodes.bandcamp.com/track/tiny-little-guys-are-eating-my-eyes-2 Theirs: thepsychicalliance.bandcamp.com/track/paint-a-portrait-of-the-expanding-universe-on-your-chest

[@bmac4]

Oh this is all over. I cant tell you how many times I hear metal riffs and think they sound similar to other ones...but a lot of that is just because of how much pentatonic minor is used in metal for instance.

[@DumbIdeaPresentedStupidly]

Also thinking an idea is original when you forget you heard from someone else dose happen. There have been studies that have gotten people to do exactly that

[@nateds7326]

Fun fact: the piano intro to mr. Blue Sky is taken straight out of the intro to the paul mccartney section of A Day in the Life. And on top of that they use the same panting sound effect when describing a morning routine.

[@CivilWarWeekByWeek]

The only people who didn't steal their music are cover bands, they are the real originalists

[@av.punk.801]

Love how you showed the Beatles album without any covers while talking about how the Beatles played covers

[@mariaquiet6211]

Unexpectedly hearing about Neil Innes made my day.

[@poilaaliop]

Same! One of the most underrated British musicians imo. The Bonzo Dog Band are/were legends all around, and his music for Monty Python was iconic... And of course The Rutles!

[@heelyBrah]

Based on the blurred lines ruling, Led Zeppelin could make a ton of money from Greta Van Fleet.

[@mysticalquilava]

Yeah they could considering how identical Greta van fleet’s music is but if they have any self awareness about where they got their music from they wouldn’t but then again u never know

[@grfrjiglstan]

Hmm, a KZbinr trying to talk about music without getting copystriked. This should be interesting.

[@calebsmith6792]

Quinton: ...this already pretty long video the 8 hour long victorious analysis video: am i a joke to you?

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

2:00 "It's not the same" *are you sure about that*

[@Jayfive276]

Oh shut up Avery you boring Justin Y wannabe.

[@evanorsomething909]

@@Jayfive276 unlike most of justin y’s comments, Avery’s are actually original and most of the time funny

[@DarrenNoFun]

Also... i'm so sad that when you were doing the "This is not a love song" part, you didn't use the bridge from Rammstein's Amerika

[@zacorn5858]

My problem with this argument is that no-one really takes into account just how restrictive modern music is. A lot of music is based on a handful of basic chord progressions, which already limits the possible 'musical arrangements' down by a significant amount, at least in the pop world. Melodies usually are formed around the root, and extensions are used only somewhat. Adding this to the fact that there are only 12 keys (basically, a very small amount of popular music uses modes,) there is bound to be overlap. This overlap is something I would consider to be a necessity for the music world. Building on previous work--and then changing or improving it, to suit one's own style and / or influences, is what lays the groundworks for music itself. I don't have to worry about writing a I vi IV V progression in C--or for that a Canon in D--for the millionth time because there's no hard and fast rules to determine where similar is too similar. Basically the only conclusion you've come to in this video is that songs can be in the same key.

[@gadgez_]

That initial moment of anxiety when the bassline starts got even worse in the UK in 2010 when some talent show twin singers did their cover of Under Pressure and it was super popular with the radio djs for a couple of months.

[@WoobooRidesAgain]

You know, just gonna' say, I loved the video, but you missed a golden opportunity to point out the irony of the estate of Marvin Gaye rushing to defend Marvin's intellectual property rights, an estate that presumably includes members of his family. The same family which includes his siblings, who tried to argue that his 1984 murder, where he was executed with multiple gunshots while he slept, was a suicide in order to protect his murder, *Gaye's own father.*

[@sinisterteaser4464]

I love Neil Innes! I promoted his insta and he commented “thank you” on one of my selfies. I almost cried.

[@sinisterteaser4464]

This would’ve been a great birthday gift for him.

[@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC]

It's interesting that you mention this, because Spotify recently rolled out a new algorithm that could apparently detect instances of musical plagiarism. But, you know the old saying: "Good composers borrow. Great composers steal." The problem now is that a lot of mediocre artists are using the same materials through stuff like Pachelbel's "Canon in D."

[@nanobotjr]

lol how did you edit this comment and still miss the spotify spelling error. i completely agree with what you're saying though, it's sad what the industry is becoming :/

[@ZEKESPILLEDINKMUSIC]

@@nanobotjr I fixed the typo.

[@picanigeorgello2847]

Idk why but whenever I hear canon in d especially in other songs it irritates the heck out of me. It's just the most annoying lil tune

[@JaymzBernard]

I was so happy to hear you talk about the Rutles in this! It's one of my favorite records of all time and I so rarely hear anyone talk about it. Thanks so much for including it in this video and discussing the interesting details surrounding it!

[@l.g.956]

God I love the Rutles, its the best mix of homage and roasting I've ever seen in a parody of celebrities.

[@kjess713]

I’m only at the beginning of this video, but I just wanted to say that I’m SO psyched you hit your 410 k goal, I’m very much looking forward to your animorphs video next year!!

[@ryanhasani]

I’m glad you brought up the LEGEND Neil Innes, his work is freaking brilliant! Keynsham is a great album, and The Rutles is straight gold. RIP Neil!

[@music_YT2023]

The slowmo of your dancing at 3:29 is a mood. And I appreciate your in-depth look at Innes; I hadn't known about his litigation woes previously.

[@verylostdoommarauder]

Vanilla Ice's defense of the song not being stolen is inadvertently a way of telling the start of the songs apart. Plus, the riff repeats enough times that figuring it out isn't hard.

[@RemixerUltimate]

I’ll admit, I absolutely love the NSU retrospectives, but I miss these smaller videos.

[@wcv6009]

The Robin Thicke case is also notable in that its a lesson on how to make motions in a case. Had Thicke's lawyers tried to get the case dismissed based on the evidence before the full jury case they could possibly have gotten the verdict overturned because of the law not backing Gaye's estate's case. But they didn't, so there wasn't a basis for them to do so afterward. Notably the later Katy Perry case her lawyers didn't make that mistake, and they were able to get a similarly baseless claim overturned.

[@Mezelenja]

Aight lemme gas you up real quick You're amazing, talented, witty, funny & DUMMY entertaining. (I'm pretty sure I've binged like 60% of your content this quarantine.) Your last like 15ish videos have been absolute BANGERS. The video about the undercover racism in The History Channel's 'archaeology' shows and how their whole premise is basically "BrOwN pEoPlE cAnt Be tHis SmArT." Was pretty hilarious and eye opening. This year has been a year of god tier content and I can't WAIT for that iCarly vid booooiiiiiii. Thankya veryyy muchhhhh Q

[@mattlanguedoc8634]

This needs a part 2. There are so many weird, fascinating music copyright stories. By favorite is when John Fogerty was sued by his former label in the 80s because his song Old Man Down the Road sounded too much like CCR's Run Through the Jungle. In other words, Fogerty was sued for sounding too much like John Fogerty.

[@atheistlinguist542]

23:59 - 24:05 Wait! Isn't that the beat and tune of "Word Crimes" too?! I mean, I think the latter is a Yankovic track, so maybe I should've guessed, but I either never knew or completely forgot that it was a parody! I'm also pretty sure this is the first time I've ever heard "Blurred Lines," despite having some vague memories of a few visuals from it.

[@KremBotop]

Music mashup culture has been a KZbin staple for years to me

[@Oliviagarry69420]

The Harrison Chiffon case is like when Cartman replaced baby from pop songs to Jesus to make bank as a christian rocker

[@audoodle9963]

I got this in my home feed and read 9 minutes ago as 9 months ago and was really confused how I hadn’t seen this one before.

[@Thegr8MC]

"It was in the late 1960's that Led Zeppelin was first accused of musical theft and there's a band that's been accused of so much plagiarism that if I really dived into it proper it would probably take another 10 minutes of this already pretty long video." Hbomberguy: "Hold my beer."

[@dirkturtle3354]

It should be noted that the "Blurred Lines" suit stands because the Thicke lawyers neglected to file a motion prior to the jury deliberations which would have allowed them to appeal. It's generally considered that case wouldn't hold up on appeal.

[@jacksonring4156]

quintons videos always take me like twice the amount of time to get through because every example he brings up makes me pause the video and go down a rabbit hole

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

Thank you for getting the legality of Weird Al correct. He makes SOME parodies, like Smells Like Nirvana, which is about how nobody can understand their lyrics. But mostly, he makes licensed comedic covers.

[@davidaugggh]

Some of this stuff was really interesting! Thank you so much for putting so much effort into all the stuff you release, it's beautiful to see content creators like you who really care about their work.

[@kat8559]

I'm a history major looking to go into library science/museum studies and now maybe even intellectual property/labor law sooo yeah love this video.

[@Doc141]

06:13 - the album A Hard Days Night, their third album, was the first album by the Beatles where they wrote all tracks on the LP. But then they did record some more covers in later releases like Beatles for Sale. By the time they did Rubber Soul, two albums before Sgt Pepper, they were done with covers Edit: just a minor note. This video is really well written and researched!

[@Lion22249]

Oh god please make the high school musical videos I seriously need that from you come on man do it regardless

[@kanyeshallwin555]

I know you did not just call him “Feral Williams” 😂

[@jnyerere]

Gen-Z

[@MartyMcFly__25]

Like wow 😂😂 how tf don't you know that

[@aagh8714]

"wickypedia"

[@horse14t]

The one thing I love about the George Harrison case was that it inspired the amazing "This Song" One of my favourite Harrison songs and music videos.

[@jbb4105]

the blurred lines lawsuit has been so detrimental

[@JoltyThundersPlays]

theres some christian song out there, that gets sung in my church, that has a part that sounds just like "I Want It That Way" by Backstreet Boys, and every time, I turn to my brother and sing the Backstreet Boys lyrics instead.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Ikr, one time I was in my mom's car and she was playing some Christian music (I think the artist was Toby Mac, but I'm not sure) and all I can think of is that "this song sure does sound a lot like The Zombie Song by Stephanie Mabey."

[@joshentertainment2]

I never heard that song which song is that

[@MaddhouseKB]

Quentin, you have successfully subverted all of my expectations! Here I thought you were on your way to becoming a fallen titan yourself, as 2020 comes to a close, a titan has risen again! Every video you’ve put out has been a banger! Can’t wait to see what you do in 2021!

[@yongusdongus7351]

your channel is so underrated dude like woah

[@chaktirose]

Algorithm recommended your video about documentary biases, enjoying it led me to check out another. The moment that made that subscribe button irresistible: “I eventually realized this was the best way to do it… 🎶 ghostbusters, nanananana 🎶 … 😐 same song 😐” Timing and delivery were pure pleasure.

[@animelytical8354]

Ice Ice Baby illegally sampled under pressure?! The audacity.

[@weebsneku]

I think it's funny you say an extra 10 minutes to an almost 30 minute video would be too long in 2020 but in 2021 you would make a 5 hour Victorias video, Quinton

[@Lukas-kg1px]

When you played excerpts from My Sweet Lord, you didn't use the parts with the Hare Krishna/Hallelujah backing vocals, which best exemplify the similarities between the songs.

[@dallasbarringer7029]

I always appreciate how, when he makes videos like this inspired by a broad topic, Quinton will only bring up 3 or 4 examples instead of listing the entire history of said topic, yet they're always the most interesting or important ones. Just a subtle thing I noticed as a longtime fan.

[@mutantfreak48]

a lot of people do that tho

[@grapeshot]

Why did they use Marvin Gaye's face he's long dead. If he had been alive he might have had no problem with the song.

[@CH3R.N0BY1]

his estate can make calls that he potentially wouldn't have made

[@da_pikmin_coder8367]

Well it'd look pretty weird if you plastered an estate over a face instead of a face.

[@m.w.9899]

Because with the lawsuit, his estate [ironically] killed his spirit with many people who don't know his work. Some Robin Thicke fans probably think "Oh Marvin Gaye, isn't he the guy who filed a petty lawsuit over a groove?"

[@grapeshot]

@@da_pikmin_coder8367 then I hear that we shouldn't criticize certain people in history for their misdeeds because you know they were just children of their times. Marvin Gaye passed away long before this song came out so if they have a problem them have a problem with Marvin Gaye's family not him.

[@picanigeorgello2847]

I see why people think that's disrespectful but honestly it just illustrates exactly what his estate is doing to his name

[@goodolgranite8247]

Okay, we need a full and proper Rutles review video as soon as possible.

[@andresconrado]

I just noticed how long Vanilla Ice's neck is, and now I can't unsee it.

[@Mandy87Marie]

Ikr. His neck always freaked me out

[@PerryPlanet]

A piece of info I found out recently that might be of interest of you, from the book "How to Hide an Empire" (which I highly recommend if you want a fun, very digestible history book about the U.S. empire), is that the reason Liverpool was such an important place for British rock music is that there was a U.S. military base just outside of Liverpool, so musicians in Liverpool had a financial interest in catering to the tastes of the American G.I.s who would come spend their cash in town. The members of the Beatles were among many Liverpool musicians who specifically copied American rock songs for this purpose, and before long that music scene just took on a life of its own.

[@dedicatedtransportation4130]

Disappointed you didn't talk about Bitter Sweet Symphony

[@aaronpoole5531]

Guess you could say you're feeling bitter about it 👀

[@sammygriffith9198]

That's life

[@mattlanguedoc8634]

I feel like sampling is a whole other ballpark from straight-up plagiarism. It's way more complicated.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

Same. Bittersweet by the Verve VS Rolling Stones' "The Last Time." The Verve sampled the orchestral bit and added vocals to it.

[@alfredeneuman6896]

Great video! Seriously loving your channel after discovering recently and it's great to hear you talk about my favorite topic (music) with your own style and perspective. No clue how I knew nothing about Innes despite being really into Python but MASSIVE thanks for the new favorite song and a new rabbit hole to explore. Hope the holidays find you well and please keep up the amazing work.