Doctor Who Knockoffs | Quinton Reviews

Doctor Who is one of the most popular Sci-Fi shows of all time, and with Jodie Whittaker's Series 11 premiere, it will almost certainly continue to be. But the show wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for its past. Today, we study one of the strangest pages in the program's history -- The Day of Doctor Who Knockoffs.
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[@Obese_Pterodactyl]

How are you able to see properly when your eyes are so far apart? Actually, how is anyone even remotely concerned with your opinion about art when it's clear you haven't left your home in years, let alone BATHED in years? YIKES.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Aphotic Pyre TBF He is a caveman brought to the present via time travel. The government agents are doing there best give them a break

[@QuintonReviews]

I give you fire. I am leader. We will give food and water to the new tribe in the Cave of Skulls.

[@Obese_Pterodactyl]

@@doraeguyakaneddie6586 Well fuck, now I feel like a bigot. Should've been so obvious. Sorry, Quinton.

[@davidbarry9690]

Yeh bit like johnathan harris eyes. From lost in space haha no offence

[@RW77777777]

his makeup artist added the Cheet-O crumbs just before the stream

[@Bieeanda]

After watching Fantastic Beasts, my friend turned to me and said, 'He should be the next Doctor Who!' I replied, '...dude, we've already HAD Matt Smith.'

[@rike1775]

I guess this is supposed to be a joke... But I seem to be unaware of it.

[@jic1]

@@rike1775 I think it's just that Eddie Redmayne's character in that movie looked a lot like Matt Smith's Doctor Who.

[@mmirlas2820]

@@jic1 bingo

[@ChadtheDJguy]

jic1 And acts like him

[@lunahetfield]

Bieeanda i wonder why Newt is on the thumbnail? I was like "SOMEBODY MADE A KNOCK OFF OF FANTASTIC BEASTS?!!!!?!???!????!??!!!!!!"

[@Gabriel-re6sw]

Ahhh yes. The well known British show Dr.When

[@AgilityDZN]

Who?

[@rootfish2671]

How?

[@ilitardo160]

Where?

[@AgilityDZN]

What?

[@lightning7936]

Why?

[@MrCed122]

Ah yes, my favorite show, Doctor What. I also kinda like the spin-off, Torchpulp and The Mary Jane Adventures.

[@IABITVpresents]

and Class

[@rassilontdavros3004]

What a shame Mary Jane had a pain at the party, and they had to cancel the show

[@CountryBwoy]

I love to torch up for a Mary Jane Adventure

[@kseriousr]

Everyone asks Doctor Who, or Doctor What, but no one asks Doctor How.

[@bigdaddydons6241]

Dr. No

[@animelytical8354]

"Is he a doctor?" I love my British humour, man. I want those tapes. I'm almost certain naming the company BBV was top banter

[@criesincowboy9629]

Doctor Whom'st'd've Fighting the Derlinks and SiberMin! He has a TURDAS!

[@purpleraider8105]

Travels with great companions like Tose Ryler and Nonna Doble

[@captain_dsz6049]

and lets not forget his wife siver rong

[@joanhowe9340]

What about pill botts

[@dalek4463]

And who could forget Pmy Aonds

[@tarvoc746]

He has a Turd Ass? Eeew!!!!

[@Alicehastur]

the "doctor why and the lawsuit waiting to happen" bit got me so hard

[@Ozzy_2014]

Seen that parody exits couple years back.

[@takotratheratking7411]

"Doctor Why" is what I said to the doctor that delivered me

[@AnomalySource]

Hey I found you again

[@Mr2BonClay]

"Even I would be tricked into buying it if I didn't know better" *_punctuates by waving said tape in the air_*

[@MaestroBlur]

Knock-off November in December HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[@MaestroBlur]

@BearGacha 101 most likely, just a slight remark

[@el.262]

@BearGacha 101 /r/Whooosh

[@AgilityDZN]

@@el.262 No that's not how a woosh works.

[@el.262]

@@AgilityDZN *woosh*

[@AgilityDZN]

@@el.262 Still not how it works.

[@emil246]

There's five doctors; Who, what, when, where, and why

[@c.julietofcampjupiter8557]

james g How?

[@sgc25]

don’t forget about “whomst’ve”

[@Nomad-Rogers]

Don't give the BBC any ideas they mucked it up enough

[@BennyLlama39]

There's still one more: Doctor *Huh?*

[@Hillsoe]

100th like

[@jaidanielparker]

The Stranger was originally meant to be alt continuity split off from The Twin Dilemma, where the Doctor did actually disappear and become a hermit and Peri went with him. Summoned by Shadows picks up after The Doctor has had a good few years to think about his behaviour and significantly mellowed out. This information comes from an old associate of Bill Baggs on the old Outpost Gallifrey forum BTW. Can't remember his name on OG but he wasn't happy with Baggs for conveniently forgetting to throw him that few extra quid as promised when the video sold well.

[@LemorasCards]

First thought when I saw Fantastic Beasts was "why is this guy trying so hard to be a more awkward Matt Smith" but overall I really like those movies still

[@zoewilliams5501]

My thoughts exactly.

[@YourFaceisPretty]

I feel like the costume designer/art director kinda did that to him. The actor seemed more like he was crossing the obsessive kid in the back of the class with Dr. Dolittle, and he just happened to be an english guy in a scarf.

[@bartistclord1916]

Eddie is doing his best Little Nicky impression. go watch Little Nicky, then rewatch Fantastic Beasts, and you will see it.

[@sanikfast4639]

The stranger: *exists Doctor who: *WHOM'ST'VE*

[@janesimpson2741]

dr. yall'd've

[@creamypeanutbutterjellygir3321]

Doctor Whom'st've'yall'nt

[@epsilon7707]

Hello

[@totallynotjeff7748]

Whenever you say "Bill Baggs" I imagine Bilbo Baggins.

[@TheSaiyanPrincess89]

You mean Bilbo?

[@Lexender]

@@TheSaiyanPrincess89 No Bilbao Baggins, from the portuguese version

[@PabloEscobar-cf6cy]

This is a high IQ meme

[@TheDonutMan3000]

He meant to say Bilbao Bargins from The Horde Of The Rings written by G. R. R. Talking

[@quasicroissant]

@Lexender A very interesting choice by the portuguese to name their version after a spanish city...

[@earlleonard]

I'm a drama and music teacher and at one of the schools I worked at my students and I wrote a Doctor Who knock-off as our end of year school play/musical. Agent How ran a magical travel agency that took the different classes of students to different times and places they had studied during their school year. It was fun

[@theboogeyman2590]

aint this more "magic school bus"?

[@imfsresidentotaku9699]

@@theboogeyman2590 No, the Magic School Bus doesn't travel through time. Also, Doctor Who started as a show in which the main character takes two teachers on journeys through time and space.

[@erictaylor5462]

So "The Stranger" isn't a Doctor Who knockoff. It is an unofficial Doctor Who.

[@VitasVarnas]

If I remember correctly from what Nicola Bryant once told at a convention panel, the reason why she never did more Stranger stories after the one was because she never received payment for it.

[@davidjames579]

The opposite of that is the Italian James Bond knock-off OK Connery! aka Operation Kid Brother, which stars Sean's actual younger brother as Bond's younger brother, except they can't actually name him. The cast also features a host of actors from the Bond films playing the same roles but with different character names. Bernard Lee who played M, Lois Maxwell who played Moneypenny, Adolfo Celi and Anthony Dawson who'd played Bond villains, and Daniela Bianchi who played a Bond girl. It's the opposite to The Stranger, because all the actors were paid MORE than they were in the actual Bond films!

[@battleupsaber462]

Thanks for delaying Knock-Off November to December, I was afraid it'd clash with No Nut November

[@MrVreyes20]

Thank NNN is over now

[@lgnd2k3]

I think it might have been because knock off november sounds a tad dirty. Y'know? ;)

[@brunoselles3403]

now I can Destroy Dick December to this video

[@gwenwalravens8030]

Well November wouldn't be a Knock-Off November but the real deal.

[@lgnd2k3]

@@gwenwalravens8030 yup

[@UberDr009]

Hey guys, Fun fact! Spotify has a ton of Big finish doctor who episodes. I good one to start is " The Marian Conspiracy " Who introduces my favorite companion.

[@frislander4299]

Bloody hell that's David Troughton (a much-admired actor in both theatre and tv in the UK and yes the son of the same Patrick Troughton the Second Doctor).

[@ParaSpikyHyperGoomba]

I'm genuinely surprised you didn't mention the Zygon porn. That seems pretty notable.

[@rootfish2671]

Wait wut?

[@EngEduMS]

Holy fuck! It's even make by Bill Baggs as well!

[@FlamingSackOfPizza]

he already reviewed that one, it's one of his super early videos

[@anthonyhowardstarkisalivea9853]

I-I don't want to know.

[@getmesomefood8061]

Probaly cus he has child viewers

[@antomov1072]

guys, December is just knock off november

[@taliakellegg5978]

More like Jack off November

[@freddybear2005]

No, It's A Month!

[@AlienWithABox]

The moment he said Nick Briggs for the first time, I thought "Dalek VA Nick Briggs?? No way it's him..." Lo and behold, it is. It's so interesting that he started with DW knockoffs and became an integral part of the real show.

[@cinnamonbun1379]

Most people involved in the revival series did fanfiction, parodies, and unlicensed spinoffs in the 90's.

[@GenerationWest]

How... How did I not know about this? Nick Briggsand Mark Gatiss pre -Doctor Who, but especially a half-naked Sophie Aldred with the Pie-Lord Adonis, Colin Baker. Rip Hunter and Newt Scamander may be knock offs, but the BEST one is Professor Paradox from Ben 10, that's my dude.

[@latenightspaghetti7952]

HOLY SHIT HOW COULD I FORGET ABOUT PROFESSOR PARADOX

[@charleynewman5057]

How bout Professor Space-Time from Community.

[@GenerationWest]

I like Professor Space-Time, for the little we had with him, but didn't include him cause he's just a comedic parody, while the rest play them straight.

[@thetertinator9562]

@@charleynewman5057 That was the point though, karen gillan even wanted to cameo for it

[@Undecided0]

Rip Hunter pre dates Doctor Who.

[@frogzx]

For some reason I read the title as "Doctor Who Knocks Off" and got real confused I should probably sleep

[@BroomPusher2024]

Nobody: Bill Baggs when Dr Who is on Hiatus: "ILL STEAL IT! NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!"

[@soltandvinegar]

“The Wilderness Years” Whovians: Aw shit

[@BlackScarabFilmZ]

See, I feel like comparing The Stranger to the Asylum and Vídeo Brinquedo is a bit unfair. Those studios are aping success for nefarious reasons and trying to cash in on popular films and trick inept parents into mistaking it for the actual film. The BBV stuff was made when Doctor Who wasn't on the air, so it's more like the Star Trek fan films (Phase II or Continues) if the rules were put in place much earlier and they had to file all the serial numbers off. And more of a labor of love than Atlantic Rim was. Otherwise, pretty good summation.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Doctor Zone is the best doctor in doctor who because he has one foot in the future and one foot in the past he also has one hand in the present ( Or at least in a gift shaped cast )

[@Rman4ful]

Mr Neddlemouse Some people would disagree.

[@VicEntity]

“One hand in the present” Literally!

[@catrinag7101]

-Or at least in a gift shaped cast.

[@Rman4ful]

I don't remember what this comment originally was, but I'm sure my statement remains accurate.

[@doraeguyakaneddie6586]

Rmanful doge The original comment was “Doctor zone is the best doctor in doctor who” I just added more stuff

[@avnub66]

The Virgin Doctor Who vs THE CHAD *QUINTON LEAP*

[@Nickman826]

So Bernice Summerfield vs Quinton haha

[@AlbertonBeastmaster]

The Stranger was made because the fans were demanding new Doctor Who, but the license was being negotiated at the time between the BBC and Universal, so no new Doctor Who could be made. It wasn't a 'knock-off', it was the closest to Doctor Who that could be done at the time given the situation and climate at the BBC.

[@jlindsayuk]

Exactly, it was done for pure fan service. It's basically like Big Finish decided to do video, without a license. Also, yes, I know I'm 8 months late on this video.

[@shuvanispiritualsoldier8173]

Basically like the Orville and star trek

[@jlindsayuk]

@@shuvanispiritualsoldier8173 I suppose so in some way, yeah!

[@DavidMarsden]

Also Bill & Ben is another BBC series. BILL AND BEN. BILL AND BEN. FLOWER. POT. MEN. GOOD TIMES.

[@currencylad7125]

Hello little weeeed!

[@joanhowe9340]

Bill and Ben are also the names of two characters in Thomas and Friends which originated in the UK

[@frislander4299]

Flobbalobbalob

[@scrambled5948]

I think BBV is one of the main reasons why the BBC is so dickish when it comes to content creators using their stuff.

[@SuperFunkmachine]

For a lot of doctor who the rights to characters and monsters where with the writers and could be licensed directly from them.

[@lwaves]

@@SuperFunkmachine Yes, a big example being the Daleks belonging to the Terry Nation Estate as that's how the Peter Cushing 'Dr. Who' movies came about. They are also a knock off of Doctor Who.

[@eLJaybud]

Didn't that refer to him as grandfather rather than doctor in that film?

[@MuchWhittering]

@@eLJaybud He was named "Dr Who". Susan always called him grandfather in the show.

[@MultiMacire]

Doctor Who's girlfriend Nurse What is my favourite knock off

[@franceshelton5809]

LeviPleb his friend General Physician When tho

[@1xlaz2]

@@franceshelton5809 can't forget Gynecologist Where

[@galacticweirdo5977]

Bruh Surgeon Why was lit tho. Too bad it got cancelled and replaced with the pretty weak Pharmacist How.

[@MyoticTesseract]

Y'all are forgetting an underrated classic: _If M.D._

[@galacticweirdo5977]

@@MyoticTesseract didn't that have the cringy af villain trio Officer There, Fireman Then, and their leader, Banker That?

[@notnotkavi]

Great video! Nitpick, but I was really hoping for an actual knockoff called "doctor why" based on the thumbnail and now I'm a little sad

[@christianmccauley7340]

Oh I betchu there is.

[@Ozzy_2014]

@@christianmccauley7340 oh there is. It's a porno!

[@Zneelsen]

13:36 isn’t that David Troughton, son of Patrick Troughton who played the 2nd Doctor?

[@davidjames579]

Yes

[@DalekCaanOfSkaro]

@@davidjames579 he appeared in Midnight in Doctor Who series 4

[@jack0609]

And the guy who played Dudley from Harry Potter is his grandson

[@EsKakktuzz]

Gatiss may be controversial among fans now but he is still the only person to have written for, starred in and played the Doctor in Doctor Who, as well as creating a docudrama too.(Though Nick Briggs isn't far behind) Pretty impressive for two guys who began in knockoffs.

[@sydneycully3613]

I love Mark Gatiss but his work for The League of Gentlemen far exceeds his Doctor Who work

[@LaughingPsycho]

@@sydneycully3613 He actually blocked me on Twitter, because I said I'd been disappointed with one of the Christmas Sherlock shows. I didn't even mention him, so he'd obviously done a search for the #. I didn't even slag it, just said I was disappointed. Shows how thin skinned he is, if he then went to the trouble of blocking me. :D

[@lwaves]

+EsKakktuzz When did Gatiss play The Doctor? I don't recall that at all. Was it something unofficial or outside of the main show?

[@hgwells1899]

In Doctor Who Unbound, a Big Finish alt-universe thing, Gatiss plays the Master. Add that to the list

[@davidjames579]

Yeah, I think it was ignored here in the video, that Gatiss didn't specifically get work on Dr Who because he'd been involved in The Stranger, but because he'd since become a name through his writing and acting (of many characters) in The League Of Gentlemen TV series. It was the success of this BBC programme, which had started on stage and radio, and Gatiss's increased profile that led to him working on Dr Who. I don't know if the BBC approached him or he approached them, but either way The League's obvious referencing of cult TV, horror, and fantasy gave Gatiss the cachet to be involved. His involvement to The Stranger is almost incidental.

[@Larry]

DC's Legends of Tomorrow desperately wants to be Doctor Who, especially the third season. Though whoever writes it is an idiot who has no clue about the UK and is full of annoying stereotypes. But if you want knock-offs, just look at the BBC's rival network ITV, who has tried several times to make a rival, Primeval, The Tomorrow People, Demon... and so on.

[@darkbats20]

That's just every show on that network. They're all written by idiots and full of stereotypes.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

Primeval was kinda neat. The idea of prehistoric or speculative future species stumbling into our world and causing havoc isnt a bad idea, I just wish they maybe did it a little better.

[@jakobfenner5464]

Larry Bundy Jr LOT is meh. So many of my friends fucking praise it, and I don’t know why.

[@theambivalentps2bloke60]

Excellent comment as always Larry. Do you remember the Demon Headmaster? Lol Classic!

[@Edaphosaurus]

If only ITV would go back to trying to compete with Doctor Who (RIP Primeval my sweet summer child 😢)

[@davistalhone9482]

This is one of the most thorough, honest and well researched clips on The Stranger and BBV on the net - and the top comment is some half-assed diss?! The internet is a weird place. Anyway, The Stranger is a pretty interesting piece of entertainment that crosses into official Dr. Who continuity these days thanks to aforementioned Big Finish Productions and their canonical entries (albeit explained as an alternate timeline). What's more exciting too? Original The Stranger novels will be coming later in the year! Good times to be a fan.

[@robertevans2949]

One minor note...the name BBV actually stands for Bill Baggs Video.

[@nabeelwork2747]

DR WHAT DR WHERE DR WHEN DR WHY DR HOW

[@ajwirtel]

Nabeel Work DOCTOR WHOM

[@nabeelwork2747]

@@ajwirtel DR WHOMST

[@MrRuano825]

DOCTOR WHEREFORE

[@bedazzlebub967]

DR. UMM...

[@Lemuel928]

DR HERE or DR THERE?

[@mr.youtube1653]

>Knockoff November >Uploaded December 1st

[@madnessbound]

Published on December 1st*

[@userSoulguy]

I expected more from a user named Mr. KZbin. You have disappointed me.

[@basedchimera5859]

The biggest knock off of them all

[@user-zk6vn2xg4r]

timezones

[@Jollimark]

>pepe icon >use of ">" >4chan user alert /s

[@markuscriticus8278]

This is amazing. Only one thing I wish you mentioned: One of their last releases was Do You Have a Licence to Save This Planet?, a parody of themselves starring Sylvester McCoy as Foot Doctor, hiding from "Licensed Reality Corporation".

[@richardmattocks]

I bought all these at the time and yes, they were a bit low quality but you nailed it when you said they were all we could get. 90’s DW fandom was desperate for any content and we lapped it up. CD, video, cassette, books, we didn’t care. We just wanted more of what we loved even if it was a bit rough around the edges. I had no idea Bill B was so controversial so loved this expose.

[@joeworpole2295]

Colin was an underrated doctor imo, vengeance on varos is fantastic, I’m going to have to check out the third stranger volume

[@Jakmanuk99]

I’m also a fan of the Trial of a Time Lord series

[@tabularasa0606]

His Big Finish stuff is awesome.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Especially stuff like Holy Terror and Jubilee.

[@DarkMagickan]

Colin didn't put me off in the slightest. He made it interesting.

[@Meepswonder]

@@DarkMagickan He tried to save what ever that producer did throw at him

[@con7885]

Nock off November 2018 first episode on December 1

[@Homicidal_maniac-it8nc]

Con 2nd episode

[@josh-oo]

@@Homicidal_maniac-it8nc What was the first episode?

[@realbillyb]

Josh-oo, the Shape-Shitting Master of Dogshit The latest Fallen Titans (on knockoff youtubers)

[@josh-oo]

@@realbillyb But that wasn't part of Knock-Off November. That was part of Fallen Titans.

[@josh-oo]

@@jakobfenner5464 ur mom? "Ur" is a prefix that means the same as "primeval", if I remember correctly. What does a primeval mother have to do with this?

[@TheAskTrixieChannel]

I just kinda think of The Stranger as "Colin Baker's missing season".

[@Ladondorf]

It took me way too long to realize that the guy in the thumbnail is Newt Scamander and not one of the Doctors.

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

Yeah I wondered why that character did not work well while watching the movie and now I know that he is a lifted character, the fantastic beast young lad is stuck in and is not the lead character in a too crowded movie.

[@Natte.513]

Doctor Who Doctor What Doctor When Doctor where Doctor why Doctor How

[@jakobfenner5464]

Doctor is?

[@davethewave2197]

Doctor Strange ?

[@boombya123]

Doctor Nick?

[@mr.scarlo2234]

Doctor Why is Gamora?

[@handsomebrick]

Doctor Which Doctor Whom Doctor Whatever Doctor Whether Doctor Whose Doctor While Doctor Whereby

[@maxresdefault5568]

Im not gay, but Colin Baker...

[@Shutter-Writer]

Heavydirtysoil i’m not gay but That Flex Tape Guy...

[@ilitardo160]

Photo_ Filmmaking hey Flex guy is the most Manly man of all!

[@Shutter-Writer]

Ironic name. Yes he is. Especially he’s pecks. Have you seen those bad boys.

[@misteridiot]

Frederica M. Now THATS a lot of damidge!

[@TheDrugOfTheNation]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYnWiIZ7g7V2gLc

[@vincinel114]

I died at "Doctor Why? And the lawsuit _waiting_ to happen!" XD

[@xedalpha1]

I personally loved the Auton trilogy when I was a kid back in the 90's. Stumbled over it and it honestly felt like something that could've fit in as happening in the background of late 80's who.

[@dithercat]

it's called knockoff november because december is just knockoff november

[@michaelwilliams7140]

🤔

[@Xxjacksparrow34xX]

i got grapes what you watchin son?

[@iRhelps]

ThEy dID SuRgErY oN a GrApE

[@skinnyzachfilms]

Glad I’m not the only one that things Newt’s a 11th Doctor knockoff.

[@matthewduncan8523]

The role was actually written for Matt Smith. They changed the lead role shortly before filming

[@jessica23claire]

i'm glad the *shudder* love scene between Nicola Bryant and Colin Baker in The Airzone Solution at least got a mention here...lord that movie was weird Also I'm so glad for the love for the Sixth Doctor, he's constantly shat on.

[@BugsyFoga]

Don't you just love it when a video is made to be a part of a monthly video series yet was released after said month.😁

[@dublinjake]

So, Quinton, Lindsay Ellis and Kyle Kallgren all make videos linked to copyright/fair-use in the same week... do I smell a cabal?

[@FerGalicia]

"3rd Rock from the Sun" did a lot of "let's talk about sci-fi but show none" and it worked great! I actually was let down when they showed stuff.

[@eastlynburkholder3559]

3rd rock from the sun was a sit com about intelligent people out of their area of expertise. Usually there are fewer of these characters, possibly even one of these characters, in such a sit com. I have seen action films that had this going on. But 3rd Rick from the sun is not sci fi.

[@HedeccaTamer]

Thank you for pointing out the fact that Newt Scamander is literally The Doctor after coming to the Potterverse and landing Hagrid's job Specifically, Eddie plays Newt the way he would if he was cast for the 11th Doctor, and I also want Fantastic Beasts to hurry up and end so Eddie can finally play The Doctor

[@jeffreycruz526]

I think he'd be too similar to 11, especially with his looks

[@nejdalej]

The Doctor would finally be ginger though xD

[@giovana1148]

It's december quinton

[@martintabony611]

"Bill and Ben, (the flower pot men)" was BBC children's programme from the early 60s.

[@greenhowie]

It was trippy as hell and featured a flower that only said "weed" Still amazed it hasn't become a student classic.

[@YaBoiBigNutz]

@@greenhowie fucking watched this shit in the early 2000s as an Aussie kid, they might even still air it on ABC

[@TeruteruBozusama]

Makes me think of Pompel og Pilt for some reason, a trippy Norwegian puppetry show from the late 60s. The first episode is available subbed here on KZbin. The show was banned in the 90s from airing on TV for being too scary, nonsensical, and not educational...

[@greeeeeg2]

It’s cool that Colin Baker got to play the inconspicuous doctor he always wanted to be.

[@Masterge77]

Looking at The Stranger, it seems to cross the line between knock-off and spiritual successor, especially considering the original series had been cancelled at that point. Not surprising the lawyers would catch up to him.

[@carliecasas8533]

I find it amazing that the original DW actors even agreed to make the knockoffs in the first place.

[@mailman2310]

Carlie Casas money is pretty agreeable

[@greenaum]

Since Dr Who was notoriously tight on budget, I don't imagine the actors were paid enough to happily retire on, for a few years' work each. It's worse now they're doing those awful "cons", where they sit in some horrible aircraft-hangar of a "convention centre" and ask 20 quid a time for people to talk to them for a minute. I liked Sylvester McCoy and HNNNNG! Sophie Aldred, but I'm still not paying 20 fucking quid for a photo with them.

[@carliecasas8533]

@@greenaum I guess I didn't even consider that the actors of the old series weren't paid well - which I probably should have considering everything else looked like it was made on the cheap.

[@davidjames579]

@@carliecasas8533 Actors, unless they're huge stars aren't generally paid much. With a job like acting, where you don't have a regular income to pay your mortgage, you really have to take what's offered. Michael Caine, despite being super rich, has never lost his outlook of taking pretty much everything offered, as that's what he did when he was a poverty line bit actor. This explains why he's been in a lot of crap, even though he could be more discerning. Screen actors get residuals from TV showings and video sales, but they're just scraps. Which explains why they're so eager to make public appearances. If you're lucky to have been in one cult show or movie, it's all you got to milk.

[@ozioni2553]

I mean...I don't DISAGREE that newt is a Doctor Who knockoff

[@TheStuntastik]

Same... But i think there's enough Harry Potter lore mixed in to make him stand out enough.

[@richautt]

Eddie Redmayne as Matt Smith as Doctor who as Newt Salamander

[@HolsovanUltimate]

Honestly, that's mostly why I want him AS a doctor.

[@Man-fp8vp]

HolsovanUltimate he would make a good doctor

[@siriusgaming3981]

but he isn't tho, the doctor is loud and crazy, but newt is quiet and shy, they are very different as characters.

[@mgthestrange9098]

You missed out a fact about Nark Gatis. He also o wrote and starred in extremely dark and brilliant horror comedy, the League of Gentlemen.

[@lwaves]

Which is how he made his name, not because of Doctor Who or Sherlock. Although those two shows have undoubtedly made him even more famous.

[@greenaum]

Is Nark Gatis his non-copyright-infringing name?

[@lwaves]

@@greenaum Hahaha! I never even noticed that and I usually pick up on typos. I must be getting soft in my old age.

[@mgthestrange9098]

No,, it’s his drug cop name, lol!

[@davidjames579]

@@lwaves I have a feeling he got Dr Who in spite of The Stranger, rather than because of it. Doing The League gave him a bullet proof cachet to work on Who, whereas The Stranger alone could have prevented it.

[@ash7324]

This channel gives me faith in a time when KZbin is about as trite as it's ever been, every video is fantastically researched, well paced and presented. Big ups to you from England Quinton 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿

[@yunggott1260]

Back to the roots of quinton reviews!

[@Hippiethecat124]

This was a really interesting episode based solely on the concept of fan films gaining enough traction and influence to hire members of the core cast and crew - specifically in science fiction (Star Wars and Firefly have a ton of fan films). I think it would be really interesting to study this trend and how fans can influence their favorite properties through their own creativity. It would be a deep rabbit hole if all forms of media were covered - fan novels and games are more prolific than fan films, I think.

[@paperboyskull]

Fourth Doctor: "It's either Romana or...18:43"

[@TheEagleEnigma]

quinton, you’re such a good narrator, i would pay to watch theatrical documentaries narrated by you tbh

[@amazingdisgrace1684]

13:07 You're probably already aware of this but the actor with Colin in that scene is a relative of the Second Doctor Patrick Troughton (I think it's his son or something) and actually guest starred in the Doctor Who episode Midnight as a professor. Also, I agree about Eddie Redmayne. His mannerisms and dress sense are completely in line with a Doctor portrayal.

[@Pinky-np8ug]

I've been watching you since your Fairly Odd Parents film review and it's genuinely amazing watching you grow in quality and subs. It makes me really glad I stayed this long and I can't wait for more videos as you grow

[@plushdragonteddy]

i keep hearing "bill baggs" as just an abbreviation of "bilbo baggins," like "yea this is my buddy billy baggs"

[@pixman2581]

It is interesting, that BBV was resurrected in 2021. They are producing their own audio drama, web series about Cyberon, Probe. Also, company also had a controversy, where it was revealed that they hired and defended accused child predator.

[@Trev359]

These were made to satisfy us fans during the long years when there was no new Dr Who on TV and it seemed there never would be again. We were extremely grateful for them. and they were very popular. A situation I assume you have never experienced. The BBC were completly fine with them. Also you have a very interesting way of pronouncing Nicola.

[@Bruh-zx2mc]

"The BBC were completly fine with them" The cease and desist said it all, didn't it

[@imfsresidentotaku9699]

⁠​⁠@@Bruh-zx2mcThey were fine with them until Bill Baggs used copyrighted material that he didn’t have the rights to for his audio dramas. This is explicitly stated in the video, yet you felt the need to leave out the context surrounding the cease and desist just to prove the OP wrong, so saying that it “said it all” is disingenuous.

[@FinlayFosterReviews]

Absolutely wonderful video on a era of doctor who fan works that I never thought would get explored in such a beautiful fashion! Keep up the great work

[@clomiancalcifer]

I remember when my local public television station showed some of these. Also is Mr. Explainy the Scifi David Troughton (who played the Professor in Midnight)? OMG IT IS!!!! (and yes son of Patrick Troughton) The thing with Downtime is that it's vaguely accepted by someone at BBC licensing as it got turned into a BBC licensed distributor published book....I think featuring the 7th Doctor.

[@malisafosteroffical]

The Stranger is oddly compelling, I would've been interested in watching this a continuation of Doctor Who. Definitely better than last couple of seasons of Doctor Who. It would have added to the cannon.

[@lightningmcqueengaming7547]

I kinda zoned out while watching this, and when I heard the words "Space Dandy" I was jolted back into reality.

[@Frosting1000]

This was a really great video Quinton, everything you talked about really surprised me about the franchise. How you justified putting Eddie redmayne in the thumbnail surprised me too 😂 either way this was a real treat to watch-I’ve missed your doctor who videos (and this is coming from someone who has never watched doctor who)

[@christopheralthouse6378]

Say what you will, these knock-offs helped keep the idea of Doctor Who ALIVE during the 90's...without them, I doubt there would've been much demand for the TV Movie in 1996 or for Big Finish's officially licensed audios starting in 1999. Coincidentally, Colin Baker remained a HUGE fan after his firing, I imagine this was a big reason for him to agree to star in "The Stranger" series in the first place...he would go on to be the FIRST Classic Doctor to sign on to Big Finish and brought both Peter Davidson AND Sylvester McCoy into it as well, leading to Big Finish's VERY FIRST Classic Who audio, "The Sirens of Time", being a multi-Doctor story featuring the Fifth, Sixth AND Seventh Doctors together...so, I guess BBV, for what it's worth, deserves credit for having a much more significant role in keeping Doctor Who going than it would otherwise have a right to have...☺☺☺☺

[@JaceCavacini]

Thanks for this video. It cleared up some confusion I had about the spinoffs, the audio adventure origins (I suspect some of the motivation for the BBC to license Doctor Who was to support their IP in lawsuits), and the “in everything but names” spin/rippoffs. It was also funny, which is always welcome.

[@pointblank2890]

I like how the second to last sentence of the video fulfilled the click bait quota. In spite of that, very well done video, man. It was my first time learning of the BBV and its so fascinating hearing about it through your storytelling.

[@r3n3gad33]

Torchwood: Miracle Day was the biggest knock-off! It shouldn't have been called Torchwood to begin with!

[@zigzag4491]

I actually really like a lot of the BBV stuff, like audio series with the 7th doctor and ace that you mentioned is fantastic and worthy of big finish, in fact when i first heard it I mistook it for big finish and stop listening because i thought it had been pirated. Also, I haven't watched it before but i heard snakedown is quite good. Oh and also Nicholass Brigg's fan audio series called Audio visuals is pretty good, even some of the stories god reused in the early days of big finish, just changing out the Doctors.

[@Kremmen2001]

Shakedown wasn't Bill Baggs. It was directed by Kevin Davies and produced by Gary Leigh (Levy) and released through Keith Barnfather's Reeltime Pictures.

[@arthurrufus7675]

Both the clowns paintings in the background will haunt my dreams.

[@braunhausmedia]

Actually, BBV did some very nice audio plays in a quasi-Who universe and some of the people involved went on to form Big Finish Productions which produces licensed Dr. Who audio plays starring many of the former Doctors. They're among the best Dr. Who stories ever produced.

[@andrewbowman4611]

Bill Baggs and Nick Briggs first worked together in the early '80s, with the Audio Visuals range of Doctor Who audio adventures. These carried on until 1991, and starred Briggs himself as the Doctor for all but the first one. By implication, 'Fred' could be said to be the same character (as could the previous Doctor in the Arabella Weir-starring Unbound story Exile). In fact, the Briggs Doctor appeared in two Doctor Who magazine stories - a cameo in Party Animals, alongside range companion Ria, and, more significantly, as McGann's 'replacement' in a story called Wormwood. Baggs himself would go on to create a few more videos, including Zygon: When Being You Just isn't Enough, and a fifth P.R.O.B.E. film, When to Die, which recast the character of Liz Shaw, due to Caroline John's sad passing. Incidentally, several Audio Visual stories were redone as Big Finish ones.

[@jessica-mh3os]

Seeing how all this connected to big finish was satisfying. Now I really want to listen to those first 3 audios.

[@jmckenzie962]

FYI "Bill and Ben" also doubles as a reference to a really old British children's show from the 50's called "Bill and Ben The Flowerpot Men" that became a sort of pre-internet meme in the UK. The Bill and Ben meme has shown up numerous times in British media throughout the decades and it ALWAYS flies over Americans' heads.

[@bulvisbulviasukas1090]

Why do you have a casualy explained doll figure in the background.?

[@sleepy-fc6rf]

Colin Baker was my favorite too!

[@taureleafsilver]

Gatis also worked on the brilliant audio drama Professor Nebulous, which functions as a sort of Red Dwarf to Dr Who's Star Trek. playing with the themes while still having it's own identity

[@AlienIOIandroktone]

Very insightful! I watched a lot of the Classic series when I was younger and never heard of these tapes outside the infamous shirtless Colin Baker scene! Thanks for bringing these to light and explaining their origins

[@Shutter-Writer]

Is it me or Quinton reviews are getting better and better

[@hummingbirdcake1902]

I feel like they were but a few months ago, he started using tactics for viewership that I don't applaud.

[@manospondylus4896]

Photo_ Filmmaking And that's why he had to delete his last video...

[@Shutter-Writer]

Hummingbird Cake yeah definitely but i do just enjoy the editing more here then before.

[@Shutter-Writer]

Disappointed Turtle 😂😂 true but yet again, he made knockoff November in December

[@hummingbirdcake1902]

@@Shutter-Writer Yeah, his camera set up and quality of clips are better. You are right about that. And I actually made a comment about my thoughts after I read your comment here and saw some angry viewers, Idk if you can find it but it took me awhile to type, and I do not feel like typing the same thing again lol

[@blahblahblahblha303]

Well thanks for telling me about these homages that I now have to watch. They made so many! Nick Briggs and Mark Gatiss were involved!

[@sydneycully3613]

This is one of the best videos I've ever seen that has covered The Wilderness Years, it's fantastic!