Qur'anic Understanding of "Christian" (N-S-R) | PART 1

[@PeaceJusticeCompassion]

I like your silent but subtle sarcasm towards a religious group 😅

[@solaqurana]

😄

[@Bxbomba2010]

Thank you, always looking forward to your insight.

[@solaqurana]

You're very welcome

[@hotspring503]

Peace Bro.Thank you for the valuable info. is a video on "sâbiîne" comin up as well?

[@sonabarnes6670]

Excellent, masha Allah, just the right clarification we need at this crucial juncture. Allah bless you. 🙏❤ I can't for the life of me figure out what Sheikh Imran is up to?! On one hand he is definitely spilling the beans and on the other hand, he supports the falsehood agenda! Hypocrite? Typical Sunni - playing both sides? Double agent? War is deceit therefore kill two birds with one stone - support both sides with the knowledge that the lazy majority are hopeless donkeys hellbent on going to hell and only the truly worthy, rightly guided will be saved, because they do the due diligence of independent thought and seeking the truth without blind following every word he says? Is he setting Russia 🇷🇺 up - dragging them into the battle under false pretexes by massaging their egos by saying they are the 'NaSara' Christians (followers of Jesus Christ) that will be victorious and rule the world hereafter? Although the Qur'an makes no mention of anyone called Jesus. It says followers of Isa. Fair enough, Russia 🇷🇺 does follow Isa and not Jesus. The Sheikh's terminologies mskes me wonder all sorts of things, may Allah forgive me! To me the NaSara mentioned in the Qur'an appear to be very Iranian🇮🇷 based people, because the description fits them. 🤔 Please correct me if I am barking up the wrong tree.

[@maxathicalou6031]

Other words that i could relate to is : The sponsor (Al-nasara), guarantor (Ansaar), supporter (Nasyr) edit : the word "patron" is more suitable to (Waly).

[@maxathicalou6031]

Other possible words : Proponent , Exponent , Advocate , Promoter.

[@GBL3092]

accelerationism and futurism

[@solaqurana]

@maxathicalou6031 There is a big difference between someone that helps you tie your shoes and someone that supports you militarily (I mentioned that in the video). That's why I didn't translated Nesaara as SUPPORTER/HELPER, but PARTISAN there is significant definitive difference. 17:80 does not have that word, you are thinking of 18:51 ('Aduda which means strength, power, vigor, force or assistance - in the general sense), however 28:35 shows it has something to do with possession because the translators have put ARM (ie your force, your aid, We will strengthen your arm Musa through your brother) there is no SUPPORTER OR HELPER here in these two words. 28:17 this is used in a few verses: And it makes sense it has something to do with a word used for plural and singular nouns like BACKING/BOLSTERING (The root has to do with peoples' backs and a dhaheer is a linebacker in football); there is no splitting or branching like in Partisan, but rather Dhaheer implies collaborating and corroborating like the Jinn and The Ins in 17:78. 17:88 - shows this to be plural as The Jinn and The Insa are to each other Dhaheerun to attempt to gather and produce the likeness of The Qur'an 25:55 - The Kaafir is upon his Lord a Dhaheer 28:17 - Musa says he will never be a Dhaheer for the Criminals 28:86 - Do not be Dhaheer for The Kafireen 34:22 - The ones they call upon other than Allah - not for them in The Heavens and The Earth is their any incorporation and there is not for Allah from them any Dhaheer 66:4 -shows this to be a singular indefinite noun yet it is translated as plural for The Mala'ikah 51:39 - This root is mentioned four times it seems - lets look at the context: Rukn - this is clearly not referring to simply people but something physical you can lean or depend on (11:80, 51:39); it means support (sturdy or of strong build), prop, corner, nook, cornerstone, pillar (literal and figurative), regular column (in a newspaper), basis, basic element, first principle, staff (military), basic elements, chief elements, parking 11:80 - Lout asks to take refuge towards a Rukn Shadeed (denoting a place) 51:39 - Fir'aoun turns away by his ruknihi tarkana - to lean on, to support someone's weight on something 11:113 - Do not LEAN towards the ones that do wrong so there will touche you The Fire 17:74 - if Allah had not made the believers firm, they would have leaned towards them (the enemies) The Rukn root in The Qur'an denotes a physical attribution of stability - a literal NOOK, ALCOVE, CORNER, RECESS, HIDEAWAY, etc 4:5 - this is more of a problem for the sunni traditionalist as Qiyaaman can no longer refer to simply standing anymore but more sustaining, providing sustenance for a way other than literal such as wealth, nutrition, etc This is a difficult translation to narrow down, but clearly the vague word "support" cannot be used in this regard because it can't fit all uses of Qaaiman or Qiyaaman (its even contrasted with one of the words I mentioned from N-S-R - Muntasirun in Qur'an 51:45) So verdict is still out on a comprehensive definitive translation for that word let alone Q-W-M root 9:4 - is related to bolstering and backing I mentioned for 17:78 it's just that this is the verbal form. It's anyone's guess why "pronounce zihar" is in the Qur'an but clearly its the same word as the verbal form of a backing/bolstering 9:17 - this word Waliyy/Awliya is contrasted with the N-S-R root I mentioned so it needs a parallel or complementary meaning (eg Mawla vs Naseer). I like using the word Patron for Waliy and Patrons for Awliya which gives you a sense of the relationship - ie the mushrikeen take patrons from the jinn as their "gods" besides Allah. In shirk-centric belief systems they define a family's particular saints (awliya) as PATRON saints (the word has the word for father their like paternal ancestors who they styled later as gods). Still open to a different encompassing definitive translation of the word for Waliyy/Awliyya. Hope that helps.

[@PeaceJusticeCompassion]

Salaamun alaikum I don’t know your name brother, but I want to add a comment here. Al-lazina Aamanu, Hadoo, Nasara, Sabi, Etc all of them got their specific names or titles with reference to Allah, Malaika, Rusul, Kutub and Youm Akhirah. Anyone who are directly or indirectly dealing with a combination of these 5 entities will be classified as either Allazina Amani, hadoo, Nasara, Sabi, Majoos, ashraku etc There are many ayaath where either Allah and Akhirah is discussed (there are several ayaath with these two combinations, to be exact there are 20 ayaath which uses the combo of Allah and Al-Akhirah throughout the Quran). Or Allah and Rusul is being discussed (8-10 ayath) (after reading those 8 to 10 ayaath where Allah and Rusul were discussed, I come to the conclusion that Rusul does not mean Messengers (Messages would be better translation than messengers). Also there is an ayath where instead of Rusul, Ambiya was used, which further reinforces my proposal that Rusul/ Ambiya does not means “messengers/ prophets” but it means “Messages/ News” Or Allah and Malaikah are being discussed (3-4 ayaath uses this combo) 33:56 explains explicitly the function of these two entities for mankind. Allah and Kutubihi were mentioned in only 3 ayaath but one specific ayath regarding Kutub and Allah is found in Surah Tahreem Ayath 12. Where Maryam not only adhered and accomplished the truthfulness of the kalimaath but also “Kutubihi” (I can say for sure, Maryam could possibly not have fulfilled or accomplished all the books from Allah) because Quran came after Maryam. So, Kutubihi can not possibly mean “books” In my understanding, Kutub means “ordinances/ legal written decrees such as commandments starting with Kutiba”

[@solaqurana]

Thank you for sharing

[@Pirate-kk2nk]

Hey i always felt the same about russul and anbiya but still i think it still not a satisfying complète awnser to the question Reaally like your méthodology btw keep it going 💪

[@kaiquecrisostomo846]

42:30 Salaamun 'alaikum! Just wanted to comment before I forget. When Paul is accused of preaching against the law(i.e, he was trying to modernize according to this interpretation that alladhina hadoo are the "progressist") in the Act of the Apostles he is asked to take the Nazarite vow to prove that thats not actually true. 21(...) They have been informed that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to turn away from Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or live according to our customs. 22 What shall we do? They will certainly hear that you have come, 23 so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. 24 Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law. 25 As for the Gentile believers, we have written to them our decision that they should abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality.” 26 The next day Paul took the men and purified himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of the date when the days of purification would end and the offering would be made for each of them"

[@maxathicalou6031]

lexicons in the mushaf that has synonymy with the meaning "supporter" or "helper" [17:80] عَضُدًا [28:17] ظَهِيرًا [51:39] بِرُكْنِهِۦ [4:5] قِيَٰمًا (in a financial sense) [9:4] يُظَٰهِرُوا۟ [9:71] أَوْلِيَآءُ (alliances) [11:80] رُكْنٍ (in a "structural integrity" type of sense)

[@solaqurana]

There is a big difference between someone that helps you tie your shoes and someone that supports you militarily (I mentioned that in the video). That's why I didn't translated Nesaara as SUPPORTER/HELPER, but PARTISAN there is significant definitive difference. 17:80 does not have that word, you are thinking of 18:51 ('Aduda which means strength, power, vigor, force or assistance - in the general sense), however 28:35 shows it has something to do with possession because the translators have put ARM (ie your force, your aid, We will strengthen your arm Musa through your brother) there is no SUPPORTER OR HELPER here in these two words. 28:17 this is used in a few verses: And it makes sense it has something to do with a word used for plural and singular nouns like BACKING/BOLSTERING (The root has to do with peoples' backs and a dhaheer is a linebacker in football); there is no splitting or branching like in Partisan, but rather Dhaheer implies collaborating and corroborating like the Jinn and The Ins in 17:78. 17:88 - shows this to be plural as The Jinn and The Insa are to each other Dhaheerun to attempt to gather and produce the likeness of The Qur'an 25:55 - The Kaafir is upon his Lord a Dhaheer 28:17 - Musa says he will never be a Dhaheer for the Criminals 28:86 - Do not be Dhaheer for The Kafireen 34:22 - The ones they call upon other than Allah - not for them in The Heavens and The Earth is their any incorporation and there is not for Allah from them any Dhaheer 66:4 -shows this to be a singular indefinite noun yet it is translated as plural for The Mala'ikah 51:39 - This root is mentioned four times it seems - lets look at the context: Rukn - this is clearly not referring to simply people but something physical you can lean or depend on (11:80, 51:39); it means support (sturdy or of strong build), prop, corner, nook, cornerstone, pillar (literal and figurative), regular column (in a newspaper), basis, basic element, first principle, staff (military), basic elements, chief elements, parking 11:80 - Lout asks to take refuge towards a Rukn Shadeed (denoting a place) 51:39 - Fir'aoun turns away by his ruknihi tarkana - to lean on, to support someone's weight on something 11:113 - Do not LEAN towards the ones that do wrong so there will touche you The Fire 17:74 - if Allah had not made the believers firm, they would have leaned towards them (the enemies) The Rukn root in The Qur'an denotes a physical attribution of stability - a literal NOOK, ALCOVE, CORNER, RECESS, HIDEAWAY, etc 4:5 - this is more of a problem for the sunni traditionalist as Qiyaaman can no longer refer to simply standing anymore but more sustaining, providing sustenance for a way other than literal such as wealth, nutrition, etc This is a difficult translation to narrow down, but clearly the vague word "support" cannot be used in this regard because it can't fit all uses of Qaaiman or Qiyaaman (its even contrasted with one of the words I mentioned from N-S-R - Muntasirun in Qur'an 51:45) So verdict is still out on a comprehensive definitive translation for that word let alone Q-W-M root 9:4 - is related to bolstering and backing I mentioned for 17:78 it's just that this is the verbal form. It's anyone's guess why "pronounce zihar" is in the Qur'an but clearly its the same word as the verbal form of a backing/bolstering 9:17 - this word Waliyy/Awliya is contrasted with the N-S-R root I mentioned so it needs a parallel or complementary meaning (eg Mawla vs Naseer). I like using the word Patron for Waliy and Patrons for Awliya which gives you a sense of the relationship - ie the mushrikeen take patrons from the jinn as their "gods" besides Allah. In shirk-centric belief systems they define a family's particular saints (awliya) as PATRON saints (the word has the word for father their like paternal ancestors who they styled later as gods). Still open to a different encompassing definitive translation of the word for Waliyy/Awliyya. Hope that helps.

[@le2r]

Wa 3leikum ussalam warahmatullauhi wabarakatuhu

[@solaqurana]

Salaamun 3leykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

[@BroMoe71]

وعليكم السّلام ورحمة اللّه وبركاته

[@araitol3935]

Your video is too long to be honest. Can you tell me the conclusion? Does the christians get saved? How should I treat them? Should they still follow the quran to be saved? Should they follow Muhammad to be saved? Should they leave their understanding of jesus to be saved?

[@solaqurana]

I wonder if you have a problem listening to a Pewdiepie livestream or Hatsune Miku anime for hours on end. Not sure if you have atheist/agnostic leanings given your Richard Dawkins profile. Allah is with The Enduring ones. (Allahu ma' As-Saabireen)

[@maximelamothe5181]

Ibtend to avoid 1hr or less video because its not enpugh to really get into any subject 😂😂

[@maximelamothe5181]

You should treat everyone the same. Why you need a book to tell you that

[@solaqurana]

@@maximelamothe5181 sometimes less is more - its just takes some reflecting on the part of the listener. If you treat all the same then you clearly cannot do that for long if you understand what people can be like. The Book teaches patterns of human behaviour that are not necessarily apparent at first glance and by doing so, those who pay heed evade a volunteering in a comprehensive deception against themselves which earns them eternal punishment.