Quranic Support for Preservation - Qira'at Conundrum - Episode 3

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@rroyr5698
@rroyr5698 3 жыл бұрын
God Bless Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith!!!-the evangelical
@therockofsalvation35
@therockofsalvation35 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 das mit der Einladung kann ja jeder sagen und etwas behaupten.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for breaking this down into a series. It makes it easier for those of us non-scholars to follow.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlignebridge4224 - keep repeating like a parrot whatever your Islamic leaders and teachers keep lying to you to stop you from finding out.
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 3 жыл бұрын
There is no real definition for love in the whole entire Quran.. The unconditional LOVE of GOD is mentioned 468 times in the BIBLE.. NEVER once in the Quran..
@TheNewYouTubeHandlesAreDumb
@TheNewYouTubeHandlesAreDumb 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 The verse is talking about during prayer/prophecying. "I praise you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions just as I passed them on to you. But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ. Any man who prays or prophesies with his head covered disgraces his head. But any woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered disgraces her head, for it is one and the same thing as having a shaved head. For if a woman will not cover her head, she should cut off her hair. But if it is disgraceful for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, she should cover her head. For a man should not have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for the sake of woman, but woman for man. For this reason a woman should have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels. In any case, in the Lord woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For just as woman came from man, so man comes through woman. But all things come from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace for him, but if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For her hair is given to her for a covering. If anyone intends to quarrel about this, we have no other practice, nor do the churches of God." This verse concludes Paul's thought from the previous verse. Apparently, some Christian women in Corinth were rejecting the cultural norm to have their heads covered. In that society, women with heads uncovered in public were signaling their sexual availability, or association with idol worship. Apparently, some women of the church in Corinth were failing to cover their heads while praying and prophesying in church. Paul says bluntly that this practice brings shame on their husbands, fathers, or the male head of their household. The gap between millennia and cultures can make this reasoning unclear. A modern parallel might be a woman attending church services in extremely revealing clothing, or lingerie. Acceptable as those are in the right context, the surrounding culture perceives those as sexually-suggestive choices. While it seems extreme to imagine someone going to church in their underwear, the point Paul makes is exactly that. Sincerity and "freedom" don't override how others perceive that appearance, which would be an embarrassment to the person's spouse. This may be another issue where Paul is commanding the Corinthian Christians to set aside what they perceive as freedom, or a "right." The higher concern is the spiritual good of others. In some cases, however, even arguments for "freedom" fall short of countering the harm of how certain behaviors are perceived. In this case, Paul does not allow room for them to decide. The dishonor created is too great. The implication of that style choice, in that culture, is too overt for Christian women to brush off or ignore. Paul compares this to the dishonor for a woman of having her head shaved. This was sometimes used as a humiliating form of public marking on those who'd committed certain offenses. Presumably, even the women comfortable with uncovered heads in a church service would have felt disgraced to have their hair shaved off. Paul tells them, then, to just keep their heads covered during their services, for the sake of their metaphorical heads. -Citation from bibleref.com
@goldenshowersprophet7872
@goldenshowersprophet7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 if Paul is the enemie why did you quote what he wrote in 1st Corinthians dude 😂😂
@TheNewYouTubeHandlesAreDumb
@TheNewYouTubeHandlesAreDumb 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 He said not to abolish but to *fulfill.* He fulfilled the law thus freeing us from the law.
@goldenshowersprophet7872
@goldenshowersprophet7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 Isaiah 9:6 “Unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given, and the government will be upon His shoulder, and His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
@goldenshowersprophet7872
@goldenshowersprophet7872 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 you need another verse ?? Isaiah 7:14 Isaiah in which the prophet Isaiah says that a specific almah ("the young woman")[1] has conceived and will bear a son whose name will be Immanuel, "God is with us"
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Muhammad never mentioned that the Quran was revealed to him in 7 arhuf until his followers started reciting it differently showed that he was a fraud and I believe he used to forget things he told his followers at different times.
@frankjaeger9068
@frankjaeger9068 3 жыл бұрын
And that the Quran was compiled in only the Quraishi dialect but now we have many Qurans
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankjaeger9068 The standard narrative has holes
@didierfavre2356
@didierfavre2356 3 жыл бұрын
He must have had a memory problem like "Did I say that?"
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 Why didn’t Muhammad aka Allah tell his followers that he received it in 7arhufs before the confusions started? did he forget to tell them?
@didierfavre2356
@didierfavre2356 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 Any human being can't remember perfectly everything he said to everybody everytime he spoke. Last time I checked, Muhammad was human. If you believe he could, you believe him to be a god.
@pagangods5191
@pagangods5191 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Smith just needs a Good platform and Alfadi is doing right thing.
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 pagan gods don't exist
@eismc2518
@eismc2518 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5e0Y5WhhJ2sbaM
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 3 жыл бұрын
Great discussion
@roseminephang1267
@roseminephang1267 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you both
@UlugbekAzimov-n4b
@UlugbekAzimov-n4b 6 ай бұрын
Exchanged knowledge: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
@NhwNews
@NhwNews 3 жыл бұрын
Great show as always. Thanks to the algorithm, Islamic advert appeared at the end indicating Muslims watch this.
@abbasbeig3943
@abbasbeig3943 3 жыл бұрын
Christian Preachers vs Muslims; kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2GyXqR5epZnbMU (watch Jay Smith 20 years back in this video at video time count 8:00 onwards)
@jannmutube
@jannmutube 3 жыл бұрын
---- > According to Islamic tradition "Allah is a singular being who must necessarily exist alone." So the claim in Sura 85: 22, that the Quran exists, eternally, in clay tablets in heaven, violates the claim of unitary monotheism or the "heaven" in which the Quran exists is not eternal. If Allah and the Quran are two separate eternal entities, that also violates the claim of unitary monotheism. If Allah can't enter his creation because he is eternal, neither could the Quran.
@absalon6888
@absalon6888 Жыл бұрын
Very good explanation
@jacobogutierrezsanchez
@jacobogutierrezsanchez Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and useful.
@anastasiamamis6441
@anastasiamamis6441 3 жыл бұрын
Well done guys.
@fvillag1
@fvillag1 2 жыл бұрын
We know the answer but the best response to it YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH.
@berekettesfamkael6952
@berekettesfamkael6952 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you brother.
@azbhatti272
@azbhatti272 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you dear brother fadi
@motiongraphics4280
@motiongraphics4280 2 жыл бұрын
why do your videos have such low view count? these are good!
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
Not to worry, there are copies available of this infamous ‘Holes in the Quran narrative’ between YQ and MH.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlignebridge4224 - keep lying to no one but yourself, you silly little Abdul! More infidels and apostates know the huge holes in the ‘perfect preservation of the Quran’ narrative than Abduls worldwide because Abduls like you keep pretending that it’s not. Why not ask your soul whether you’re brave enough to find the shocking truth about the 30+ Arabic versions (not translations) of your silly Quran!!! I challenge you to find them in your own Islamic bookstores in different regions online, or even get them at Amazon!! Don’t be such a wimp! And don’t let your other silly little Abdul wimps scare or threaten you from finding out!
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlignebridge4224 - ahhh, deflecting as usual, you silly little Abdul. Why behave like the typical Abdul robot and actually start using your free choice and brain finally? Or be called a coward like the rest of your Abduls?
@Kopie0830
@Kopie0830 3 жыл бұрын
Your doing mighty good works! A billion blessing to you all!
@Pax-Africana
@Pax-Africana 3 жыл бұрын
The Reminder(114 Surats) informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition but rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, the Apostles didn't believe in Trinity, and they had prescribed a dietary Law in Acts 15:22-34 which the said Tradition rejects. It is not ironic! On the basis of those clues we can say for sure that: Qur'an is a codeword for Torah. The Reminder should be the proper Title for the 114 Surats. Islam means an Evangelical Party supposed to enforce the Torah as the Law of the land. Muhammad euphemism for Messiah Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler, Legislator...and took up Muhammad as a reign name. Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition. It's time to differentiate the Palace and the Mosque...under the Messianic title Mohammad...
@walid7885
@walid7885 Жыл бұрын
Am in the middle of the third episode and they still didn't talk about those differences....I give up. Moving on guys. I'm gonna look somewhere else.
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
The standard narrative of the Qurans has giant holes in it, and this is not something we can discuss in the public. YQ
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 You’re a liar like your prophet, Jay had been going to the park for years meeting Muslims, and you’re here lying like every other Muslim including Muhammad
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 I told I read the Qurans all my life until I found out that everything in it is garbage, when I started reading the Bible, I found out the superiority of the Bible over the Qurans.. Quran is nothing but Muhammad’s words
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 Mansur used to say Quran is preserved letter by letter and dot by dot, it was Jay Smith and Hatun that made him to change the goalposts
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 I am at work right now, am just taking my time to reply to everything you’re saying
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 To tell you the truth, I know Islam more than you think I do
@billshepherd5090
@billshepherd5090 3 жыл бұрын
How can the tablets be eternal when by definition a tablet is blank until written upon?
@billshepherd5090
@billshepherd5090 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 are you unable to give an answer? I try my best to give an answer when asked by an honest muslim looking for an answer. Do you merely recite the kango-ran or do you read it for knowledge and understanding? Can you show me ONE Uthmanic kango-ran? No because he burned them all. Maybe you would rather fish one of the ones out of the Nile muslims tossed in it when the Hafs kango-ran was chosen in Egypt.
@bartv8207
@bartv8207 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 so you have no answer. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 3 жыл бұрын
*BILL SHEPHERD* And how can the Quran be eternal when Allah says in s 46.12 - And before it [Quran] was the scripture of Moses to lead and as a mercy. And this is a confirming Book in an Arabic tongue ... How did Moses' Law predate eternality? This is a very confused totem to which Muslims bow.
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 Do you think these KZbin critics were the beginning of my study? Do you know me, or just pretend to have knowledge you don't possess? Muslims need to learn to make Islam look appealing rather than appalling. Don't be afraid to fire up those cerebral neurons, and stop, for sanity's sake, STOP learning from your deceivers. Seems your ulama knows far more than they'll share with you laypersons; they don't want to rattle your faith. Find out why!
@FreeRadical7118
@FreeRadical7118 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 The last two verses of surah 85, and the Sheik from Islam Q&A : whoever says that it is created is a disbeliever. This is the belief of Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, in contrast to the beliefs of deviant groups. ... islamqa.info/en/answers/100585/ruling-on-describing-the-quran-as-the-eternal-word-of-allah
@sldevon
@sldevon 3 жыл бұрын
Can you refer a muslim-approved website to look up the hadith (a source they would accept when being shown)? I can't find the ones that are being cited. Thanks.
@pritampatrick6511
@pritampatrick6511 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if Jay Smith speaks bit slow. Too fast and hard to fully grasp what he is talking about. All great , lot of information, Jay smith is very knowledgeable, very well learned scholar. May God bless Jay Smith !
@abbasbeig3943
@abbasbeig3943 3 жыл бұрын
Christian Preachers vs Muslims; kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2GyXqR5epZnbMU (watch Jay Smith 20 years back in this video at video time count 8:00 onwards)
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 2 жыл бұрын
Logically, if the Quran is from eternity (no beginning or end) and it speaks of Abraham (for example) then isn't Abraham also eternal? Aren't all the characters and places also eternal?
@glencampbell6217
@glencampbell6217 3 жыл бұрын
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!..
@tomjeff1743
@tomjeff1743 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have time or interest to deal with the confusion of Patreon. Just put an address in the show area where I can mail a check.
@DEGIRLZDEMSALT.....
@DEGIRLZDEMSALT..... 3 жыл бұрын
Q:Surah 15:9 where it is allah who speaks ...why does allah say we when supposidly God is one .can this be explained to me...thanks ..love these series
@marc3dartist601
@marc3dartist601 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone corrupt Surahs like 33:53, 111, etc. That would be beneficial for Islam...
@marc3dartist601
@marc3dartist601 3 жыл бұрын
@@onlignebridge4224 And for 14 centuries and until the last day, we know that Allah does not want people to enter the prophet's houses without invitation...
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
Even though Mormons also claim their Book of Mormon is eternal and on tablets in heaven, the LDS church has changed it many times. And yet, this blatant fraud has had little effect on Mormonism.
@Ryan-zh2or
@Ryan-zh2or 3 жыл бұрын
They somehow still believe even though their "Book of Abraham" was found in the basement of the NY Metro Museum of Art and found to be an Egyptian funerary text... it's shocking!
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-zh2or That’s my point. We shouldn’t expect Islam to collapse after their fraudulent Koran is exposed.
@mandalion6709
@mandalion6709 3 жыл бұрын
Once you are spiritually blind it is hard to see the truth even if it is staring you right in your face. Admitting that one is wrong is like asking a baby to give up drinking milk.
@jvo3777
@jvo3777 2 жыл бұрын
Romans 10:9-10 (KJV) 9 that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
@michaelsowerby8198
@michaelsowerby8198 3 жыл бұрын
How can the Koran exist eternally on CLAY TABLETS??? According to islam, matter exists eternally.
@pagangods5191
@pagangods5191 3 жыл бұрын
Where is Zakir Naik in the midst of this chaos ?
@mandalion6709
@mandalion6709 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, he is too scare to show his face. Why, because he is a FAKE. His knowledge is akin to walking in shallow water...ankle deep. 🤣
@csmoviles
@csmoviles 3 жыл бұрын
❤❤❤
@marjupsd3728
@marjupsd3728 3 жыл бұрын
FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK IT IS EVIDENT THAT JESUS IS NOT GOD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS. JESUS WAS NEVER SENT TO CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS. JESUS ONLY HAS A VERY CLEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. MATTHEW 15: 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL. JESUS WAS BORN TO BE A LEADER WHO WILL SHEPHERD THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT SHEPHERD CHRISTIANS. MATTHEW 2: 6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people ISRAEL. JESUS ONLY INTERACTED WITH ISRAELITES, JESUS NEVER INTERACTED WITH CHRISTIANS. MARK 12: 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments, Hear, O ISRAEL, The Lord our God is one Lord. JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL. JESUS IS NOT THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS. THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THAT STATES THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS. ACTS 13: 23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto ISRAEL A SAVIOUR, JESUS JESUS BE PRAYED AS KING OF ISRAEL, NOT AS KING OF CHRISTIANS. JOHN 12: 13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of ISRAEL that cometh in the name of the Lord. JESUS COMMANDED THE WORSHIP OF GOD, JESUS NEVER COMMANDED WORSHIP OF JESUS. MATTHEW 4: 10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. JESUS COMMANDED TO THE FOLLOW JESUS, JESUS NEVER COMMANDED WORSHIP OF JESUS. JOHN 8: 12 Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that FOLLOWETH me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. IN THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK JESUS ONLY INTERACTED WITH ISRAELITES, JESUS NEVER INTERACTED WITH CHRISTIANS. SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO BE A GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
@frankjaeger9068
@frankjaeger9068 3 жыл бұрын
There are only one Qurans
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that you used “are” means they are more than 1
@frankjaeger9068
@frankjaeger9068 3 жыл бұрын
@@lastprophet8338 did you also notice that Quran is plural?
@lastprophet8338
@lastprophet8338 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankjaeger9068 Absolutely! I just saw it
@frankjaeger9068
@frankjaeger9068 3 жыл бұрын
@@lastprophet8338 😂
@MU-we8hz
@MU-we8hz 3 жыл бұрын
@@lastprophet8338 sarcasm......
@abdulwahiduthari6191
@abdulwahiduthari6191 3 жыл бұрын
I love Islam,am a Muslim and I will remain a Muslim
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
May the honest doubts in you continue to grow and finally give you courage to break free from the lies of Islam you have been told and forced on you since childhood. For when you find the truth, even if the truth is inconvenient, unpleasant, uncomfortable, embarrassing, difficult and even painful, the truth will set you free. This is a promise from Jesus Himself.
@abdulwahiduthari6191
@abdulwahiduthari6191 3 жыл бұрын
@@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid should I have to worship a rasul or messager instead of God/Allah
@abdulwahiduthari6191
@abdulwahiduthari6191 3 жыл бұрын
@@marouwahbi8464 amin, u 2
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid 3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulwahiduthari6191 - you silly little Abduls cannot help but perform shirk daily whenever you equate your dead prophet with his sock 🧦 puppet Allah in your prayers. Isn’t it funny that whenever anyone makes fun of Allah, you Abduls only shake your heads and don’t get upset. But the moment anyone makes fun of your dead prophet of Islam, entire Abdul countries get angry and frustrated and crazy. That’s why your true label is Mohammedans and not Muslims. For that us your true god you worship. Stop lying to yourself that you only worship Allah.
@keyazabin2308
@keyazabin2308 3 жыл бұрын
Islam is false
@mikechua2240
@mikechua2240 3 жыл бұрын
Islam faith is like the emperor with no cloth. 😀😀😆😆😆😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@SzTz100
@SzTz100 Жыл бұрын
This is true of all religions, they don't stand up to logical, historic or scientific reasoning.
@ravindramorey5433
@ravindramorey5433 3 жыл бұрын
Jay hind jay
@Blume_auf_dem_Schlachtfeld
@Blume_auf_dem_Schlachtfeld 3 жыл бұрын
بسم الشيطان الرحمن الرحيم🙏
@mikechua2240
@mikechua2240 3 жыл бұрын
Ohman must be allah who come down to earth to correct his own mistake.😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@nazhasan428
@nazhasan428 3 жыл бұрын
Trinity has hole, big hole. 60% Christian do not understand trinity. Now preservation of quran has hole as well. Looks like Abrahamic religions have big2 hole. Now , who is right and who is wrong? Or both are wrong. For sure, both cannot be right.
@thinkingperson2122
@thinkingperson2122 3 жыл бұрын
99 % of Physicists do not understand Quantum Physics. So what? Is Quantum Physics wrong? Do you understand everything about Allah? If that is the case, your god must be very simple. Very simple indeed! We do not even understand how our brain work!
@nazhasan428
@nazhasan428 3 жыл бұрын
@@thinkingperson2122 Why your God make His believer so difficult to understand Him? How come 60% who do not understand trinity believe in it? Can you belief to something that you do not understand?
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 3 жыл бұрын
There are many christians who believe that jesus (pbuh) was only a human
@hdtharkii6649
@hdtharkii6649 3 жыл бұрын
Does this guy god even exist?
@theguyver4934
@theguyver4934 3 жыл бұрын
@@hdtharkii6649 - Why are you even arguing with a trinitarian there not real christians
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