r/Entitledparents My Mom Stole $160,000 From Me

[@plannedsarcasm6930]

The first story: Just file a police report. She stole 160k, get her arrested.

[@BeanManolo]

Not only that, she committed insurance fraud. She will not only be forced to pay OP the $160k back, she'll probably lose the $500k aswell deservedly

[@lampionmancz]

She's gonna have to pay the 160k + more to her daughter for damages + the amount of money she'll have to pay for commiting fraud + the fact that this will probablly be a few year prison sentence. She's about to have a really bad time. But it's her fault, she choose to ruin her own life.

[@Nekulturny]

The problem is OP engaged in this tit for tat and negotiating amounts with her mother instead of immediately filing charges. A DA is probably not going to get involved at this point and say it's a civil matter. It is entertaining though that the mother keeps asking if OP is gambling or on drugs, like lady, you're the one that was clearly desperate enough for money that you committed insurance fraud at the expense of your own kid, do YOU have a drug or gambling problem?

[@109968shadowboy]

@@BeanManolocharge her interest because she knew that the money was to op.

[@raarasunai4896]

Damn right. A thief is a thief, regardless if it’s your mother, your father, your child, or whatever relation.

[@dre1978]

Story 1: OP updated. As of January 3rd she is talking to lawyers. Although she still feels guilty due to her mother's mental abuse she says she gonna force herself to do it

[@glennrishton5679]

Good to hear that, Thanks.

[@kaguranaomi8245]

God I feel so bad for the OP. I hope she bleeds that woman dry.

[@mindyschocolate]

She won’t. She’ll cave because that’s exactly what’s going to happen. She’s too meek to stand up to her mother.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

@@mindyschocolate You sound awfully certain. What makes you so sure, or are you just outing yourself as a victim blamer?

[@WraythSkitzofrenik]

Good

[@embyratwood690]

That story with the car accident was horrifying, like actually something out of a psychological horror movie. Imagine having such controlling people in your life totally willing to sabotage and destroy everything you worked for when you’re at your most vulnerable

[@fdm2155]

It's almost the plot to Misery!

[@Xarosai]

Indeed but to be fair the opportunity never would've presented itself to the parents if OP was not a complete idiot... Who the fuck goes driving at 60 mph on a icy road with mudding tires?!?! Those are literally the worst option of tires for winter. They're meant to dig into dirt/mud to get their grip. On a hard icy surface, they don't even have half the grip of summer tires. It's not even safe to drive at that speed on an icy road with winter tires!!! lol

[@Mithandune]

There is update from 3th story and oh boy, op parents are psychopats. When op mother kicked her boyfriend from apartment, his kids stayed at his friends house he was homeless. Op mother stole op cellphone to not contact her boyfriend, she treaten she will kill her boyfriend. Op tried to sue her mother but they didn't had any evidence of her mother saying such things, so they installed cameras. They are slowly collecting evidence from fraud that op mother did, pretending that she was her daughter. Op said that her parents are old and on retirement and have nothing better to do. Plus, op psychopath mother is helping ex wife of her boyfriend, she wants him to loose rights to his children also when op mother changed her insurance, Op is left with 50k debt from hospitals bills. Also op mother went to police to arrest op bf, she told police some false stories about him.

[@LilChuunosuke]

@@fdm2155 i was just about to comment that! ^^^

[@stephanien6237]

It’s identity theft-and way illegal. She needs to be brought up on charges. This is an adult woman who was “taken against her will”? I’m so confused why it took her a month with her psycho family before calling a friend to get her out of there.

[@silverflight01]

Story 3: What sort of twisted version of love were they thinking of? Impersonation, physical abuse, and abandonment. That's not love, that's torture. They NEED to be sued and thrown in prison

[@silly-kitty3272]

Reminds me of a Stephen king story

[@TOWTWUKER]

fraud, kidnapping, false imprisonment, identity theft, probably another half dozen or so... possibly enough for, effectively, life imprisonment.

[@lampionmancz]

I'm not one to support the death penalty but... honestly? I think that's the only option. If they were able to do stuff like this and for now get away with it who's to say they cannot do things worse than this. They need a punishment. The least the US justice can do is give them life in prison, these people are literally a dangerous threat to everybody around them. +Reading the update OP has provided is completely crazy, I recommend going through it because the word insane is an understatement.

[@chanterelle483]

@@lampionmancz People do crimes even when there's death penalty for them. I guess because we humans are idiots? Not a good argument for death penalty in general. I agree that the parents should get punishment but wouldn't a prison sentence or a monetary settlement be enough? Why straight to a death sentence?

[@lampionmancz]

@@chanterelle483 Well as I said I dislike calling for a death sentence I think that generally it's stupid and should be banned everywhere. But look at the stuff these people did they're a danger, that's why I said that at least a life sentence is needed, And no a monetary settlement is not enough by a LOOOOOOONG shot. So yes I do understand where you're coming from and I partially even agree with you. Maybe I am a bit overwhealmed by emotions because when I see anything like this I get very angry because this is stuff that just should never be happening in a civilized world. (It shouldn't happen anywhere but I think you get the point) By the way. Zdravíčko :D

[@xKCAZxLEADER]

First Story: Ok. So OP's mom is extremely selfish and greedy. OP should definitely get all the evidence, get a lawyer, and sue her mom for that $160k. The amount of lying and manipulation is insane. I find it ironic how OP's mom shows concerns about what OP does with her money, yet she constantly expect every dime OP gets to go to her Second Story: That is how serial killers are born (half joke). That being said, this male Karen really think it's ok for his child to abuse animals?! Such great parenting from this one (sarcasm) Third Story: Wait, wait, wait....what?! Thats all OP did? All OP did was cut them out of her life??? OP's mom committed identity fraud and all they got were restraining orders?! OP should’ve had her mom arrested and she should’ve sued them. Oh I almost forgot about the kidnapping and being held hostage. OP's parents are not entitled, they are insane Fourth Story: $16k a month?! Damn OP, what are u doing? Are they hiring? What are the requirements? That being said, OP's mom's level of audacity is sky high. OP's siblings aren’t OP's problem, especially after 7 years of no talking? Hahaha

[@Mithandune]

There is update: UPDATE 01/03/2022: Not sure if many people will see this, but I’ve contacted 5 law firms so far for consultations and will be discussing everything with them. I’m still absolutely terrified of going through with anything but I’m trying to push myself through. I’m terrified that I’m not deserving of the money and that I’m a terrible person for doing this.

[@xKCAZxLEADER]

@@MithanduneOP shouldn’t feel any form of guilt for doing what she is doing. Her mom robbed her of her legally entitled money

[@emmahancock8911]

Nono youre right, thats how serial killers develop 110%. Harming animals is a HUGE red flag for that

[@nicholassanabria6493]

I agree

[@toecat8748]

first op is slightly to blame. as someone who’s gone through abuse it becomes you just asking for it when you keep putting yourself in these situations.

[@itsybitsybosmer]

First story, isn't that fraud? The money was in OP's name, not her mother's, especially if OP is over 18, and her mom sent in (presumably signed) paperwork in order to collect. OP, *please*, I am begging you. You need to sue your mother or press charges or file a complaint with the insurance company or something because you are legally entitled to that money per your father's wishes.

[@curtisalex456]

OP is just "stupid"!!!!!

[@Twosocks42]

Insurance Fraud, Grand Larceny...

[@benmoore1097]

3 felonies, by my count

[@spicydiarrhea5662]

mom was using that money to get sex with black people with massive BBC. Once you got black it's addiction

[@Twosocks42]

@@benmoore1097 Yeah I also forgot forgery.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Story 1 & 3: for everyone in the comments wondering why they aren't doing more to their parents....as someone who has Stockholm Syndrome with my own parents....it's not as easy to emotionally extricate yourself from them and this mental programming that you are supposed to help them.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Loyalty is one of the main things you are raised being told is critical, basically programmed, you aren't required to like your family, but you have to be loyal. They mix the abuse with love. They would cry while hitting us, saying they didn't want to do this, but that we made them. They have other families as friends who are also abusive so that everyone can sit around and literally laugh about what is going on, so it was 100% normalized. I had some friends who had parents worse than mine. They also made sure that every bit of news (or movie/tv show) about horrible foster care or abusive adoptive families was talked about/shown regularly. Comedians who had bits about violence within their own households or childhoods were regularly played. We were raised that this was normal, and they had enough examples of worse that we thought we had it not just good, but great. Mom passed away about 5 years ago, but to this day still, my dad thinks they were awesome parents. (Mom found God beforehand and spent many many hours (on multiple different occasions) apologizing for things that they did to us in our youth.

[@i.rizzler]

Agreed. It’s hard to stand up against them and put an end to their nonsense when they instill such values in us as children and if unfortunately follows us into adulthood. You explained that very well and it really resonated w me

[@ZombieSazza]

@@SoManyRandomRamblings god this resonates with me hard. My mother and brother were my abusers, she encouraged he violently attack me, she neglected me and forced me to bring him up as if he were my own child (it’s an actual miracle I got all my school qualifications), she neglected me and made sure I knew I was “the reason” life was terrible, she had problems, etc etc. She was adopted, an abused child herself, but she got adopted into an absolutely amazing family who loved her, they did NOT bring her up to behave this way, but she did anyway. My Gran constantly at war with her about it but she could only do so much, as she was ageing and her health wasn’t good, so she tried HARD with my mother but just couldn’t get her to show me basic kindness or love. Because she was adopted? I was instilled with this fear of going into care, despite the fact I absolutely should’ve been put into care, that I’d be assaulted, I’d be SA’d, that I’d wish I was dead, that fear was pushed into me HARD whilst also being taught “family loyalty is everything” As an adult I cut all contact, because family loyalty doesn’t mean anything if you can’t treat your daughter with basic love and kindness, where your son is the only child to receive any love. It took a LONG time to overcome that feeling of serious guilt like I’d done something wrong by standing up for myself, like I needed to apologise for standing up for myself, like I needed to crawl back and beg forgiveness. That Stockholm Syndrome feeling is hard to fight against after a lifetime of abuse and manipulation, thank you SO MUCH for putting those feelings into words.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

@@ZombieSazza thank you for also validating me. I am glad you got away from them eventually. I wish you all the best.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

@@i.rizzler I both love and hate seeing people say that something like this resonates with them. It helps to give me strength (because I am so used to being invalidated growing up) but it saddens me, because, until I started opening up online, I didn't realize how 'not rare' parents like mine are, and I hate that so many were allowed to do this to their kids without it being noticed (or if it was noticed, not being stopped because people don't want to cause trouble)

[@_DandyAndy]

Story 1: ... I am screaming at my screen for OP to sue their mother. I am beyond blown away by the extreme level of entitlement displayed here. Story 2: Sounds like male Karen needs to learn how to parent to begin with. Animal abuse usually leads to sociopathic tendencies so good luck lol Story 3: Stories like this are what scare me to do literally anything. My MIL is a self reported helicopter parent and I can wholeheartedly see her calling hospitals and apartments on behalf of my spouse because we don't tell her everything in our lives. I desperately hope OP gets to remain free of her family, it sounds honestly terrifying. Story 4: Good for you OP, that's a rough upbringing. I'm a victim of having to raise or provide for siblings also and it's beyond ridiculous. OP deserves all the money they've worked hard for and hopefully they'll maintain that level of distance between them and their mom.

[@shadowmewfred09]

You and me both she does not deserve to be called a mother

[@kevintull3302]

I don't care if you're my mother, sister or any other family member. You do that to me and you're dead to me. I would sue the hell outta you.

[@breezy3392]

Story 1: Same. I was screaming Go to f*ing court

[@MagiaErebea028]

Yea story 1 that’s all I was saying sue sue sue prove the fraud you have evidence then the mom goes to jail

[@nyxspiritsong5557]

Same!! Also screaming "sue her!!!"

[@d.phantomfan1216]

Story 3: Please tell me you called the cops for identity theft, fake reports of abuse, stalking, breaking and entering etc. Your boyfriend could have locked his kids because of her, whatever evidence you have please turn in so she can be arrested, and help your parents understand that severity of how much they f***** up. Edit to add: And kidnapping.

[@lusharaafton1081]

story 3*

[@stephanien6237]

Oh please! That mother needs to be criminally charged. And have a restraining order. And probably a psychiatric evaluation.

[@neilprice513]

Story 1: OP seriously needs to take their mother to court over this money. She committed insurance fraud and will NEVER give it back unless forced to. When OP finally get the money, freeze their credit, take all your legal documents with them, move out without telling the mother where they will be going and go zero contact.

[@RealCoolstriker64]

“Who are you to talk to my kid that way?” “A better parent than you, clearly.”

[@lilscenechick1995]

I really hate the idea that people can just raise their kids in a vacuum. That's really not possible, unless you're going to live off the grid as a bunch of hermits? It's always "how dare you talk to my child that way" or "don't parent my kid, that's my job". It's not just on parents to individually raise their children. As a collective society, we raise the next generation whether it's directly or indirectly. That's why there's always hope for children being raised by incompetent parents. SOMEONE out there will correct your mistakes.

[@NoName75241]

First story: as someone who heard this story for Redditor I can agree this entitled mom is crazy and I hope op moved far away from this crazy lady Edit: thanks for the love guys hahaha I’m smoking some of the devils lettuce so I likely doggies

[@LordCoeCoe]

OP is pretty stupid for giving the mom extra money.

[@Xarosai]

@@LordCoeCoe Yeah, honestly both women in story 1 and 3 are freaking stupid

[@nelsondoyle1377]

@mycuteemo21 if someone stole over $100k from you and then you turn around and lend that same person $20k, you're an idiot. And as Rslash points out, the mom didn't force her to do anything. This situation is op's fault for allowing it to happen and acting powerless in her own life.

[@Xarosai]

@@Asmoodeusmilkers It really isn't that hard if you stop to think for 2 seconds. My dad's a narcissist and alcoholic that was doing psychological abuse throughout my youth but it didn't stop me from having boundaries and cutting contact with him on multiple occasions. I guess the part where I was being dumb was believing his apologies and trying to have a decent relationship with him again twice lol

[@kaguranaomi8245]

@Xarosai you are not every other victim. I was abused by my narc father until 25. I didn't get out till 25. The OP isn't stupid, you're just being unsympathetic, which you of all people should understand isn't how you treat a victim of abuse.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

I feel so infuriated with story 1. The mother is a clear narc, and that woman is so beat down by a lifetime of that, I strongly suspect she won't have the guts to do much. So sad.

[@tully6648]

There was an update that said she did contact a lawyer, but she feels guilty about that. So... Yeah. OP is working against an entire lifetime of conditioning. I hope she can manage the strength to get through it.

[@dudeorduuude5211]

@@tully6648 she almost needs a friend to keep the ball rolling with that. I hope she goes through with it, as that money can help her get far, far away from her mother.

[@FireVixen164]

3rd story: that's called imprisonment. Parents need to be in jail IMMEDIATELY

[@chanterelle483]

Story three: OK, am I the only one who thinks that the hospital should've involved authorities when the barely conscious patient in the ICU (presumably) is somehow submitting letters to the hospital simultaneously? That scenario sure sounds a lot like identity theft. Is there some protocol for this? Because I have no idea, but it feels like there should be one. I also agree that OP should definitely get their parents criminally charged.

[@thegrimharvest]

Critical thinking is hard for some people, apparently. Alternatively, all the non direct physical care components of her healthcare were handled by a bean counter in an office somewhere else completely removed from the situation, and only looking at and considering the paperwork and payment details. No thought given to "Hey isn't this from the same patient thats supposed to be in the icu? Huh. That's strange. Maybe I should check into this more." Or they noticed, but were told to ignore it and shutup and get back to their actual job.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Story 3: to make things worse, not only did they abandon their grandchild to "someone else" it was someone THEY claimed to be a danger to OP.

[@clevergray8754]

Story 2 - If your brat actively stepped on one of my kittens they would've been thrown through that wall. The whole time I'd be screaming at the father about how he's raising a psychopath and how much a fucking failure he is as a person.

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

I'm not personally strong enough to throw someone through a wall. I'd just pick him up, give him the old "Fresh Prince" spin... and then toss him through a window.

[@It-is-me...Melsie]

Any kitten, or any animal. What a little sicko! And who else just sat around nonchalantly watching such cruelty.

[@Uwustyx]

My cats are my children, and I quite literally would go to jail to defend them if someone hurt them. They’re innocent creatures just trying to exist. ESPECIALLY kittens. They’re literally babies. The sweetest of cats.

[@FigmentForever]

Yeetus the beejeezus out of the brat. That is just sick. I had a half brother who killed kittens. I got him to admit it on camera & he told me he had pics. Found the pics (Polaroids) and went to the police. He spent 18 months in jail. Sued him civilly for emotional distress & received 5k - which I donated to an animal rescue in my area (after taxes were taken out since they aren’t a non-profit yet because Alabama has backward ass rules 🙄)

[@metanightmare4454]

One thing that confused me in that story was the part at 8:42 where OP said "before you start teaching other people's children how to behave." It's just weird because the asshat wasn't actually telling any other kids what to do. In fact, his were the only kids mentioned, so where did that line come from? It sounds like it would've made more sense for him to say that to OP, even if he'd have been wrong.

[@archiewade5991]

Story 1: UPDATE 01/03/2022: Not sure if many people will see this, but I’ve contacted 5 law firms so far for consultations and will be discussing everything with them. I’m still absolutely terrified of going through with anything but I’m trying to push myself through. I’m terrified that I’m not deserving of the money and that I’m a terrible person for doing this.

[@zombiechicken7114]

Thank you. Op has been brainwashed... I really hope they go thru with this.

[@leenahancock8056]

If you're the person from Story one then definitely go through with getting your money back and filing a police report. that's legally your money and you deserve it. I'm so sorry that happened to you. You're not a terrible person for doing what you can to get your money back and filing the police report. I'm sorry but your mother is a terrible person for committing fraud, stealing your money and for trying to guilt you into giving her your money, that's BS

[@liquidnoodles3480]

3rd story: It wasn't a straw that broke her back. IT WAS A LOG! These people need to go to jail for this!

[@iris5678]

OP needs to go to law enforcement yesterday

[@TJDious]

Kidnapping, forgery, fraud, plenty more I'm sure.

[@Tustin2121]

@@iris5678- Apparently they had. In an update, OP says they filed for protection, but the EM got together with her prosecutor friend and got that dropped and counter-filed for perjury, but only against the boyfriend. And EM has the local police under her thumb with her manipulative ways.

[@danielhounshell2526]

@@Tustin2121 filing criminal charges against them would likely be more reliable. These are serious crimes that would at least get them arrested, and OP had quite a lot of evidence at their disposal.

[@ribbitskies]

@@Tustin2121 all I can think of is how the EM is like Wilson Fisk from the show Daredevil cause of her having the police in her hands.

[@iPLAYtheSTATION]

The story with the car accident is like something out of a horror movie. Those parents are absolutely insane.

[@maieen2665]

*First OP:* This burns me up. How much of a POS do you have to be to steal money from your own child? _Especially_ when you're financially stable, and your kid is just getting by? Can OP sue her mom, because she should. She might have to get a Pro bono lawyer, though. *Second OP:* I wouldn't be surprised if that kid grew up to be a psychopath. But yeah, screw that Entitled Dad and his son. *Third OP:* I didn't think any other stories would piss me off more than the first one, but this...! I hope OP was able to take any possible legal action toward her parents, and I hope she and her boyfriend are still together. Some people should _not_ be parents. *Fourth OP:* That was short, lol. I hope OP and their brother stand by their decision not to pay for their siblings' college tuitions. Also, 16k a month?! Respect!

[@Mithandune]

There is update for 1st story: UPDATE 01/03/2022: Not sure if many people will see this, but I’ve contacted 5 law firms so far for consultations and will be discussing everything with them. I’m still absolutely terrified of going through with anything but I’m trying to push myself through. I’m terrified that I’m not deserving of the money and that I’m a terrible person for doing this.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Yep. OP can sue her mom. In fact, she needs to before the statute of limitations expires. Also, her mom committed a crime. She just needs to report this to the insurance company. They have entire teams of lawyers who deal with this. She needs to find a good lawyer. And she needs to get away from her mom's talons. Get out. Get all your important documents. Get away physically because mommy may send cops on trumped up charges. Someone this vile has no qualm about using the legal and law enforcement system to utterly break their target.

[@Dclerkin17]

Story 1: OP should have filed a lawsuit for fraud right off the bat. She dragged it on too long and paid the price. Story 3 needs to be an identity theft lawsuit. Edit: AND kidnapping!

[@WolfODonnelfan]

Paid what price? Just because someone steals your money, it doesn't become their money if it takes some time to get it back.

[@Dclerkin17]

@@WolfODonnelfan I just mean that the situation got much worse

[@Dondizle]

Honestly, unless you've been in a situation like that you don't really understand what it's like. For me it was my "friend". And I feel stupid every day for not doing anything sooner, because "he's a friend. He'll pay me back, he said he would". Well, he still hasn't. He saved my bank details on his PayPal, because he wanted something that didn't cost much, so I gave him my bank card to buy it. I didn't cancel my card because he said he has a kid on the way and needed stuff. I knew it wasn't my responsibility to pay for a kid that isn't mine, but I kept thinking, "you don't want him thinking you're jealous if you say no. You want him to still be a friend. His kid needs nice things". I guilt tripped myself every time money came out of my account, and told myself "I don't need this money as much as others. I could use it to help", even when it wasn't for his kid. He used my money over PayPal to spend a couple nights in a hotel with his girlfriend a few times, decorating her bedroom, and stuff for his car I bought. I regret it, because I could've put a deposit on a house by now. I could've used my grandma's inheritance on me, and not someone who didn't deserve a penny of it.

[@draganie]

Story 1: As someone who was also raised by abusive parents, I wanna say that it's really hard to see how bad your situation is when you grow up in that. I didn't figure out my parents MIGHT be abusive until I was 29, and couldn't face it as true reality until I was 32--and even then it took a year of terror to be able to break away. I really hope OP can get out; I'm so upset for them. They need a support group to help them escape and get their head on straight, then they can try to file charges when they're more grounded.

[@thehungryhungarian1]

Story 3: Even worse is that OP's parents not just abandoned their grandkid but they left them with a person that supposedly abused their mom (OP)

[@thegrimharvest]

Good observation. Shows that even they don't really believe their accusations. The boyfriend was just a convenient scapegoat and blaming everything on him was just an expedient means to an ends so they could hijack and gain complete control of OPs entire life "for her own good", no doubt.

[@FeralDawn]

Dude, you don't understand how hard it is to move away from a parent that is financially abusing you. I've got several friends in a similar situation, but they were so neglected that they don't even know how to drive a car and their parent(s) use them as wage slaves. This mother is leeching money from her adult offspring to keep them from being able to afford moving out.

[@Beeezledrop]

In that first story she should have told her mom that she'd be pressing charges and suing if she doesn't see that money that same day. The audacity.

[@dondiego2262]

I feel I should add 3 cheers for the guy that took in the OP's kid while the OP's parents tried to wreck her life. He is much more than a stand up kind of guy. He is the kind of guy more fathers should aspire to be. Again Bravo! for him and his morals.

[@OmaBike]

Should have filed criminal charges. Better than suing and having the attorney take 1/3.

[@d.phantomfan1216]

Story 2: I mean if you want your son to be scratched by a bunch of cats be my guest. I don't know why this man trying to raise a sociopath because a kid intentionally harming small animals for fun is a serious issue.

[@TheSimba86]

First story is why you NEVER loan money to family, as someone whos has been owed thousands of dollars my parents borrowed over a decade ago that still hasn't been paid back it's a hard lesson to learn the hard way

[@lilyyoung1002]

Yeah I learned it kind of the hard way too. At least in my situation, it was only about 1k to my dad and 500 to my mom. Im in Nebraska where your still a minor until age 19 and on both situations it was kind if forced on me. The situation with my dad, I was 17 and he was the joint holder on my bank account so he could've stolen the money regardless unfortunately

[@myheartismadeofstars]

I've lent my mother only $200~ and I've never seen a DIME (we are now zero contact. Note: I'm on disablility and my mother works, despite also being on benefits)

[@mr.scarlo2234]

The OP in the first story should have never gave their mother any money after they stole the check. Should've just called the authorities for theft

[@EonStryker]

Wow, enough just isn't enough with Op's mom, she got $500k already! How can any parent like this one take from their kids like this? Even committing fraud to make themselves happy. I hope OP gets a lawyer and takes legal action against her mom ASAP, hopefully there will be an update soon~

[@jrockz133t]

The last story..... wait what? A parent completely abandons 2 of her children for 17 years, and says, "If you wanna meet your 4 other siblings that I abandoned you for, you need to pay for their college tuition"? Am I missing something?

[@Nerobyrne]

You know ... that last story is once again proof that not everyone deserves their organs.

[@SoManyRandomRamblings]

Story 1: OP needs to move fast before statute of limitations makes it so she can't get the money back.

[@jsmith1291]

Story 1: Takes a special kind of nerve to ask to borrow money from someone you stole $160,000.00 from to begin with.

[@The-Singularity-X01]

Story 3, those injuries are why you should ALWAYS have an airbag!

[@nicholassanabria6493]

I agree with R/ on the first story the OP needs to leave like immediately Being financially drained by an abuser at the age that Op is at is scary because she’s in college trying to get her life in order and she has a money leach on her Leaving her entitled mother is probably the only way to get everything better

[@schulteq]

Similar thing happened to my family. My dad’s bio father died when he was 1. My bio grandfather was a very very wealthy man so my dad had a large sum of money that was supposed to go to him first in small payments to help with raising him then a final amount when he turned 18. Soon my grandmother remarried to a total douchebag who decided they would steal all of my fathers money and spend it on some scam, where they ended up losing it all. This happened 50 years ago. My father still hasn’t taken any legal action. My mother and I are trying to convince him to after my (step) grandfather drops dead

[@nhgtv5163]

Story 1: OP needs to seriously work on self confidence

[@damitafrost4228]

Just found the first post. She updated 3 days ago about contacting 5 law firms! Hope one takes her case. She is scared to go through with it and feels like a terrible person.

[@mindyschocolate]

Yeah, she’s going to change her mind and not take any of the lawyers up.

[@LordCoeCoe]

Story 1: how tf did OP lend her 20k+ grant money when you KNEW she stole your inheritance. You are the victim, but quite a naïve fool too. It's like trusting someone who kidnapped you, you don't do that.

[@ScarletShade13]

I wouldn't call it naive. OP has been manipulated like this for all their life. Yes, they need to leave ASAP (and preferably sue their 'mother'), but blaming the abuse and it's consequences on them isn't fair.

[@Artretha]

She lent her the 20k *before* she knew of the insurance fraud, though.

[@Xarosai]

@@Artretha Nah, you need to listen properly mate... She lent the 20k after receiving 50k from her mother of the 160k she stole. She was well aware of the fraud already and she's an idiot for going along. Gaslighting and manipulation won't stop you from having boundaries if you're not dumb... My father is a narcissist alcoholic that was psychologically abusive and manipulative for a good portion of my youth but that never stopped me from telling him off when he pushed too far lol

[@kaguranaomi8245]

She let it happen bc emotional and financial abuse by a parent is lifelong and confusing as hell. She's not naive, she's a victim of abuse. If you grew up with a kidnapper and they manipulated you to think they were your family, what do you think would be the natural reaction for a kid? *Thinking they're family* would be. That's why being abused from childhood to adulthood is so rough. That's why OP can't see it like you can.

[@SpicyDragoon]

OP like many people fall victim to the moral axiom of loving and believing our parents no matter what, but the sheer number of PoS parents that take advantage of it is astronomical, a child being manipulated like this is as old as time.

[@c_dfm1880]

The story about OP's parents kidnapping them was really hard to hear. So much so I had to pause and come back hours later to finish it. Holy moly. I agree about OP basically putting themselves into witness protection because MAN. I cannot fathom the amount of pain and turmoil not only OP but her boyfriend was feeling. She better marry him if he stuck around for all of that because that was insane.

[@Mr_Timi1]

People who are being abused do not allow their abuser to abuse them. Abusers abuse.... and the victim feels psychologically trapped. It's not about allowing or not allowing, and it's not about simply moving out. The girl needs help.

[@artturner2054]

First story, when mom asked for a hug, I immediately thought she was gonna pick op's pockets

[@TheAidanodian]

The story with the car crash got a whole lot more scary when they mentioned bruising around the ears and black eyes. Those 2 are commonly sign of a major and fatal traumatic brain injury called a basilar skull fracture.

[@mandyrobbins1]

This is exactly what I was thinking too, I've seen about a dozen or so cases of this in my career, and they didn't have a positive outcome except for one, and the permanent damage severely limited both the patient's quality and quantity of life. As soon as you see the "raccoon mask", your heart aches for the family, because you know what lies ahead for them 💔

[@ryznak4814]

My gosh OP in story 1 is infuriating, she should sue immediately. She has the evidence she needs, OP is the victim and I feel really sorry for her but my gosh it’s hard listening to that story without screaming at your screen.

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Right? It's like, listen, you absolute idiot! Your mom is a criminal and you are an absolute doormat. Do you love your mom more than you believe in yourself. Do you have such little faith in yourself that you are willing to carpet bomb your future for your mommy?

[@TheSecretLover]

Dude, I don’t think I can handle this subreddit anymore. The stories have always been horrible, but story 3 is a literal nightmare and hopefully OP’s life flourishes once she finishes untangling it.

[@silverflight01]

Story 1: Yeah, this is not something to get used to. OP needs to get a house as soon as possible. Then, OP can sue. The mom may play the victim, but OP has the evidence

[@AlastorsNight]

The OP of the first story is the encapsulation of how one can be really smart yet whipped into submission. Like, she had the smarts to call the insurance company and basically get everything in writing that the check was submitted and cashed in her name, plus the litany of texts from her mother about the money yet, is so beat down by her that she just keeps trying to reason with a monster. OP knows how her mother is tactics wise yet seems to be hopeful that her mother will just give her the money with enough time which will NEVER HAPPEN! Hopefully commenters on that post gave her some great advice and a year from now we will get a "Best of Reddit Updates" video where she sued the everloving crap out of that monster I mean her mother and got a GREAT payout.

[@laurentiare]

*Story 1 OP:* I agree with rSlash. Move out, get a lawyer and file a police report for your mother’s insurance fraud. Good luck OP.

[@GM-lr1kw]

The car crash story the BF was understated, understandable with everything else. His life was put through hell too, but he continued to take care of her kids and it sounds like he never abandoned her.

[@maddydavidsdottir9862]

Rslash came from a functioning loving family and it shows. It isnt as easy as "well just move out and dont give her money" when you're a daughter of a narcissistic sociopath, you have a warped sense of reality and responsibility. The fact rslash, after reading so many narcissistic parents stories, knowing how difficult it is for children of narcissistic parents, would openly victim blame is disgusting. "I'm not victim blaming but I'm gonna victim blame" no! Unless you have experienced being a child of a narcissistic parent, you have absolutely no right to blame us. It's not as easy as move out. It's not as easy as dont do what they want. It's not as easy as go no contact. To us, this behaviour is normal and we have no idea how to break that normal. We have no support, we are brainwashed into believing we deserve this, this is what love is and all we are worth. It takes time and strength to break out of the fog. Being a child of a narcissistic parent is like drug or alcohol addiction, you have to hit rock bottom before you can get better. Dont be a dick, just have some compassion.

[@audreym3908]

I've also come from a loving family (not that functional but functional enough for us) and I have complete empathy for those who don't. I would always ask if they ever need something and show love to them and give my support. Of course I would set boundaries if I feel taken advantage of. I'm sorry you went through a lot. I hope you're okay mentally, emotionally, and physically. Edit: spelling mistake

[@sunnie9754]

Finally some compassion in the comments.

[@maddydavidsdottir9862]

@@audreym3908 thank you, I am. I've been no contact over 20+ years but unfortunately still live in the same town so occasionally run into them :-/ it took so many years to get out if the fog. I make jokes about my childhood, the abuse, the fact my mum made me ANA, put me in foster care, etc. But I've also heard all of what rslash said. When I was a kid my mum would kick me out, leave me homeless for days and then report me as a runaway when school asked questions, this went on from ages 6 to about 11 ish. When I was 11/12 my mum voluntarily put me in foster care, this meant she could decide if I was in care or at home and boy did she know this! She would put me in foster care until her government child money stopped, bring me home until she got paid it again, rinse and repeat until I was 16. Even though I knew what she was doing was wrong, that the abuse I suffered was wrong, all I wanted was for my mum to love me. When I was 13 I learnt about munchausens and narcissists and sociopaths, when I was 15 my therapist told me my mum was a narcissistic sociopath and she had been diagnosed as a child. Turns out, we didn't move a lot because my mum liked to travel, we moved a lot because my mum was never supposed to have kids due to her instability (I'm Norwegian, my siblings are English, we moved a lot from Norway and England and eventually settled in the uk) it wasnt until my late teens/early 20s that I started limiting contact and eventually went no contact. At 31 l, after years of therapy, I'm in a good place. I'm happy, I'm as healthy as one can be with genetic and life limiting illnesses and disabilities lol, I'm engaged and we are in a good place in our lives. I am self aware of my actions, I am more than aware that my mum will NEVER love me (narcissistic sociopath) and my siblings will never defend me against her (also narcissists), that whole family is toxic and I am so much better off without them BUT when I needed surgery for my endometriosis in august 2022, when I was told in march 2020 that I will never have kids, when I was told in December 2015 pregnancy would kill me and when my 4 month old twins died in march 2012 all I wanted was my mum. I knew opening contact would be more hurtful, I knew she would never support me, I knew all the insults she would throw at me but that didnt stop some tiny part of me saying "what if?" What if she will be? What if shes changed? What if she does love me? What if..... and unfortunately THAT is the reality of being a child of a narcissistic parent. The what if of life. When you're in the fog like the op in the story, you tell yourself it's normal, all mums behave this way. You tell yourself "shes right! She did raise me for 18 years" you tell yourself that giving them money is ok this time because what if they've changed? Itll be different this time. I've been a victim of SA and DV, and honestly, being the daughter of a narcissistic parent is exactly like a DV relationship. Nobody sits there and says "why did you dress like that then?" Or "why didnt you just leave the 1st time they hit you?" But they'll always say things rslash said. It's the same relationship as one with an abusive partner. If you wont blame a victim of DV or a victim of SA, why would you blame a victim of a narcissistic parent? Because the truth is, being a child of a narcissistic parent or a narcissistic family IS a domestic violence relationship! It is a form of DV and people forget that too often. So, rslash, would you blame a DV victim for staying? Would you say those same things about someone who is being DV? Would you say it about someone who had been SA? No? So think next time. Also, anyone who starts off with "I'm not victim blaming but....." is gonna fucking victim blame and you should just not say it. Its literally the equivalent of "I'm not being racist but...." just dont do it. Whatever you were about to say, just dont. Edit to add, sorry for rambling, I wanted to help people understand and English is not my native language and I rely on Google translate lol also, I'm not looking for sympathy, I just wanted people to take an example of my NM abuse and understand that despite the awful things we experienced, we still want their love and validation. That it's not as easy as just walking away.

[@audreym3908]

@@maddydavidsdottir9862 I'm so very sorry about your experience with your incubator, about your losses and other horrible stuff that happened. I completely understand about not wanting sympathy, but having understanding that a person's life experience can help with knowing or asking what is needed. I am so glad that you're away from her (hopefully you'll be financially stable to move completely away from her for good). I also hope that you'll have a beautiful family of your own soon. I have some friends that have ok/not great moms and I offer my mom all the time (she doesn't mind lol). They love her. She will help and talk to them all the time. She's diagnosed with Bipolar disordered and is medicated for years. I know that you'll be an amazing mom one day, be it human or fur/feathered/scales mom.

[@TokenArma]

For the first story, I can’t imagine how fucked up her childhood was to have her tolerate having 165K STOLEN from her, that’s literally enough to start your life in any way you want, the fact she’s content with petty arguments rather than sending that witch to prison is beyond me

[@nils920]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: If there's isn't one already, I hope there's a specific layer of Hell for parents who steal from their children!

[@vocaloidevil]

There is, I believe. Tretchery!

[@PassiveSmoking]

Story 1: GET A LAWYER! Sue your "mother". Sue the insurance company. Call the police. Report your mother for fraud. That's the only hope you'll ever have of seeing that money again.

[@TetraSky]

Third story : Wow... with parents like that, who needs enemies.

[@LynnCooks]

Car Accident: WHYYYY are you driving 60MPH on the Freeway when it's snowing??? Not only did she risk her own life, but the lives of others! She suffered serious, expensive, possibly life altering injuries! If OP had hit another driver & inflicted those injuries on another...like anyone reading this or your children, or your parents...? I'm sorry, but I live in a place where our state license plates boast "the greatest snow on earth"... now that I have two teens that drive, I have very little sympathy for people who drive recklessly when it's snowing.

[@Nekulturny]

2nd story, perfectly justified ethically to smack that kid and if the father has anything to say about it give him a good smack too.

[@frogdude59]

Last story: "I agree to those conditions. I never wanted to see your kids anyway. Bye bye" If you're going to make a threat, make it heavy enough to think about it for more than five seconds

[@darklimeking372]

Story 3 - cutting off is not enough. You had your identity stolen, you were kidnapped, and abused. Wtf?? Call the cops

[@_exolite]

I was in awe about the first story. If my mother did that, the next time I would see her would be at her funeral. She needs to have gotten out there yesterday. And sue her, that’s insurance fraud.

[@kassieboii]

So update on the 1st story: OP is in contact with 5 different attorney offices to find one that will best fight her legal battle against her mother and possibly the bank

[@iamhungey12345]

Finally.

[@elizabethmiller2115]

The second to last story: I work in the medical field and it isn't uncommon to have your information password protected. Nothing can be changed insurance wise, medication, pharmacy. It's actually really common for people to try and mess with others by impersonating them.

[@luvdarkri]

For the first story I see so many "I cant believe OP let her mom do that" or "why isnt OP taking steps to get the money back" as if being raised by someone like that doesnt make this kind of behavior seem normal and make it easier for the mom make her do these kinds of things because of the years of this behavior OP has had to live with all her life. This isn't a random occurrence, this has most likely been the way her mom was all her life. "My mom forced me to go and withdraw $20k" is very much a thing the mom can do with the mental conditioning she's given her daughter. It's not a matter of "just say no lol" it's a matter of "this poor woman has been living with her mother and seeing this behavior all she wants and probably was going into survival mode to keep things from continuing/escalating and wasnt considering the word 'no' as a proper response at this time" Shitty parents arent usually found out to be shitty until it's too late, dudes. I used to worship my father. In return, he manipulated and traumatized me.

[@jessicae1298]

OP in the kitten story is very generous to only scold that kid. *Very generous.*

[@FederalBurroOfInvestigation]

Mother in story one, are YOU gambling? Are YOU doing drugs? Where is all YOUR money going?

[@hershy1594]

For the first story, she needs to get away from her mother yesterday. As someone who has been abused by parents, trying to make them happy will just cause misery for you. The best you can hope for a happy relationship with them is small talk and always keeping them at least an arms length away. These people destroy relationships and even lives if they're given the chance.

[@_DandyAndy]

Love starting my day with an r/Slash video 🥰 Happy weekend all!

[@Seraphim418]

Thanks! You too 😁

[@KingHayabusa384]

I'd spend every second of my day trying to ruin thiefing mom's life. Make her homeless, send her to jail... take everything she has. Nuclear f'n revenge. Story 3: Same thing. Break her.

[@andyoros6608]

I can’t with the first story. How are you gonna give someone more money after they stole from you and after you found out they have thousands in their account. 🤦‍♀️

[@Jesi310]

Story 1: OP contacted some law firms and is waiting to hear back from them. Story 2: Actively trying to hurt animals is a warning sign, I feel like if they continue down that path we'll see that kid grow into an abuser/killer Story 3: This almost reminds me of Misery... Story 4: lmao that money would never go to the kids but to the "mom"

[@mr.scarlo2234]

I hope that everyone is having a good Friday!

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Have a wonderful day 🤗

[@sleepy2174]

Only had to go to school three days this week feeling good 😎✨ So how u doing?

[@ZombieLogic101]

I am and thanks for that, back at'cha mang!

[@The_person7773]

same to you

[@kyled911]

I feel for OP in the first story. I am going through something similar myself with my stepmother. She won't produce the will and has sold some of my stuff and my mother's stuff that my dad was holding for me.

[@Aquariun9iteMMare]

OP's parents in The second to last story sounded a lot like the plot of Misery. 😬

[@spydersoup8447]

First story: OP has added an update, which is this: "Not sure if many people will see this, but I’ve contacted 5 law firms so far for consultations and will be discussing everything with them. I’m still absolutely terrified of going through with anything but I’m trying to push myself through. I’m terrified that I’m not deserving of the money and that I’m a terrible person for doing this." So yeah, the reason why she's scared of suing her mother is because of all the abuse she went through to the point that she's scared that if she rebels against her mother in anyway shape or form, her life will be further ruined than it already is. It's amazing that emotional abuse can have these types of effects on a person and I think is why these parents do this to their kids. Third story: To think while OP is at her most vulnerable state, her family would take advance of it to remove OP's boyfriend from her life and get her back and make sure she stays with them for, let me guess, the rest of her life.

[@tudytudy3316]

Story 3: OP, you have to sue the fuck out of your parents. I am pretty sure that you will get a FUCK ton of money out of them.

[@juanmendez3290]

Tbh both the first and third story pissed me off so much. Specially the first one, like how do people allow their parents to abuse them so badly, sue their asses to the ground for abusing you and your money. Not to mention to get a restraining order and your money back.

[@weshouldchill5694]

This whole video just got me mad lol damn some people don't deserve to have kids and be called "Parents"

[@illuminatipolice213]

You can kind of tell when someone hasn't been abused by a guardian when they say no one forced you to do that like you haven't been manipulated your entire life and if you don't do it they literally have all the power over you especially if you still live in their house and they've been financially abusing you so that you can't move out

[@rukiakuchiki6187]

Ah yes entitled parents stealing money from kids

[@knolsey]

If I found that paperwork, I'd have offered my mom two options. 1. 300k in cash, or the deed to the home. Or, 2. I'm going to the cops for identity theft, insurance fraud and potentially conspiracy if anyone assisted her. She'll be lucky to ever breathe fresh air again.

[@Juju2927]

Story 1 : Yes, RSlash, you can and should blame OP at this point; She's the victim, but also the Enabler to her own victimisation. She needs to wake up.

[@literallycringeidk360]

I was half asleep while listening, and assumed OP was still a teenager. I gasped when she said she was 24.

[@Xarosai]

She's a dumb doormat though... I'm not sure she's smart enough to actually wake up and have self-confidence lol

[@eblckmn]

7:38 Call the police, call the life insurance company and talk to the bank. She cashed a check in your name without you there. So I’m thinking the bank is in trouble too. Do not give her any money

[@Lunakinesis]

R/Slash: I don't wanna victim blame R/Slash: *victim blames* It's not as simple as being 'an adult' when you've been abused and controlled your whole life, dude.

[@danielhounshell2526]

I don't think that's what's happening here. This is a situation that will never be resolved unless OP is willing to take control of the situation and stick to his decisions.

[@Lunakinesis]

@@danielhounshell2526 Again, it's not that easy when you've been abused and controlled your whole life.

[@X-Cite69]

First story.. REPORT👏YOUR👏MOM👏FOR👏FRAUD! She is stealing your money and emotionally abusing you to keep said money.

[@warcrimes1014]

Goodmorning and afternoon from school everyone!

[@ryaniko94brglowingkitty68]

Please just get that (i am sorry but disgusting piece of manipulative mother) to court and file and report her to get everything back that narcissist piece of abusive mother doesn't deser you nor your money nor freedom to walk free after fraud

[@throwbackgaming248]

Hey rslash great to spend another morning with you 😊

[@Nikodymus]

Oh my God…. That first story raised my blood pressure so much. I am having heart palpitations. I don’t know who I hate more, the mother or OP. Ever want to reach through the universe and LITERALLY BEAT SOMEONE SENSELESS?! After listening to the rest of the stories, the rage has boiled even higher. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE?!?!!

[@kenziemay1943]

RSlash never start a sentence with “not to victim blame”. That is what you did and saying that just made it worse

[@chickaboom163]

I honestly thought story 3 was to be much different before the crash. The talk of dropping soneone at a hospital would involve a parking lot Karen. My dad had a parking lot Karen in a hospital lot trying to leave through the entrance blocking him from entering and picking someone up. Of course he was blocking her from leaving and didn't move because he was entering and didn't want to back up into a busy street and wait for her to leave the wrong way. To which this lady threatened to charge him with her car. Which he thought and I quote "Yeah, your little 4 cylinder sedan is going to take down my 6 cylinder crossover." She moved out of the way realizing he wasn't moving for her. That's what I thought OP would encounter

[@dionbinaisse21]

Gday from Australia

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Hey from Louisiana 🐊

[@UltraMarineBlue]

It wouldn't surprise me at all if OP's mom in the first story has NPD

[@Azhenik]

Morning

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Morning ☀️

[@deadlyasylum]

The last story: OP: "Hi mom. Bye mom" *slams and locks door in her face*

[@forkspoon5266]

hoooray!

[@ryansilverstein9353]

Third story: sue the hospital for negligence if they kicked you out during a snowstorm leaving you with no choice but to drive home in the storm they are negligent. They should have known kicking you out would have a substantial certainty if an accident could occur in a snowstorm.

[@juanhaines7295]

First

[@xLostInFirex]

The 1st story: among being greedy, I'm absolutely sure that one of the reasons of this behavior is trying to prevent OP from leaving and getting their own home. Had a mom like this and she pulled some pretty similar stuff to OP's mom with my brother.