Rageaholic Cinema: Mad Max BEYOND THUNDERDOME

[@GenX_Catholic]

Razor, I think the lack of a "villain" is the one of the most interesting thing about this movie. Just a bunch of ever shifting power plays, and Max in the middle.

[@barahng]

It's like reality. Reality doesn't have clear cut black and white villains. Just people with varying interests trying to survive.

[@Garrumx]

@@barahng George Soros is 100% villain.

[@ferrumbruti167]

Tina Turner as Auntie Entity? Bang a Rang, Bang a Rang, Bang a Rang baby! XD

[@Chris-jw8vm]

@@Garrumx I dunno. Atleast he seems to be content controlling just earth. Jeff Bezos owner of Amazon won't be content until he holds a copyright claim on the known universe.

[@mrnobody6447]

It's almost like it's taking influence from spaghetti westerns.

[@charlesvan13]

Two men enter. One man leaves. Bruce Jenner's surgery.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

Ok, this an a gem of an overlooked comment!🤣🤣🤣

[@MrCarpen7er]

Try harder. No sense there...

[@reubantisdell2644]

This is amazing

[@patrickkelley6605]

Rogerio Barbosa Jokes aren’t funny when you have to explain them, but here goes... The surgeon and Bruce are men that enter the operating room... After, the surgeon is still a dude. Get it...? Good lord....

[@ProtonJimmy]

Beyond Thunderdome feels like an R rated movie up until half the way through filming when someone decided it should be a PG-13 for some fucking reason

[@jeremiahdansereau2950]

Damn kids...

[@emberpowertcg7692]

Have to agree, remember thinking "why is this suddenly like Peter pan?"

[@raccoononymous]

I just realized how to articulate what makes these movies so great: the climaxes are a combination of chase scene and castle siege warfare. What other movie pulls that off?

[@osricleondegrance9244]

And the orgasms are relentless.

[@thewayfarer8849]

People give this movie shit, but really think about all the fucking games, novels and films *that wouldn't exist without it as inspiration* It's awesome, classic example of something cheesy, flawed but with standout moments so fucking good that it literally reshaped a genre and nearly everyone is inspired or outright stealing from it. Thunderdome is the apocalyptic mass world-building twin to Return of the Jedi

[@TheLeadhound]

Personally, I always assumed the first movie was about the few remaining remnants of society desperately attempting to keep civilization going, while the savage nature of the new world slowly crept to prominence.

[@MagicalMaster]

I always thought the first film took place as the world was decaying. Basically the bombs had dropped, shit had happened and it was finally starting to sink in. The second film is where it's just about to fully snap and the third is just after it's happened. Fourth is where it's fully gone down and most attempts to rebuild have gone tits up.

[@drsatanrx]

Foster Davies-Smith more like the 4th movie is when the femenists try to revolt only to realize the utopia they were running away from really was a utopia and they were in fact mentally retarded

[@MagicalMaster]

Hey Fallacious, KZbin shitcanned dsatanrx's comment. It looks like you're answering to no-one. Also Razorfist really called it on the first movie review. The Mad Max franchise follows a western style. He's the Man With No Name. The story happens around him, he just makes shit happen and it's the side characters that have the important story arcs.

[@ronaldmacdonald8667]

Always thought that the first one took place before nuclear war but after the age of strife (water wars, oil wars, etc.), but that makes better sense

[@drsatanrx]

Scott i enjoy how you point to somone elses comment who said they didn't fully disagree with me (maybe you need to reread the comment again) and then proceed to try and insult me with name calling because you literally have nothing to bring to the conversation. Way to go, you sure showed me!

[@Henskelion]

" But making this all women warrior society the de facto good guys was stupid. Especially since they're no better than joe. They exile their men into the radioactive swamp. Those stilt men in the bogs were their sons they abandoned. " I think this aspect of the movie was originally more fleshed out, since if you go back and look at a lot of the early drafts and concept art, the stiltwalker people are more heavily featured. The original test audience version of the movie was also a half-hour longer, before the final release trimmed it down to an exact 2 hour runtime. I wonder if a significant amount of that original version was dedicated to expanding on the stiltwalkers and the weird Matriarchal society, instead of the very slim explanation we got in the theatrical cut.

[@marsultor8336]

Wait, there are people who think Mad Max took place before the apocalypse? One of the things I've always loved about the series was the (almost certainly accidental) progressive breakdown in civilization. I mean Mad Max could have taken place in any rural small town if not for the radiation warning signs and other more subtle (for a given meaning of subtle) clues that the region was barely hold on to the idea of civilization. The road warrior showed the end stages of the previous civilization as a small isolated outpost tried to preserve what was. Finally Beyond Thunderdome was the conflict between the new emerging civilization destined to take over the world and the last dying remnants of the world that was. or maybe I just think about this kinda shit too much...

[@jacobdane]

The first Mad Max takes place before the nuclear apocalypse. The world is nuked between movies 2 and 3. The devastation in the first film is explained by a lack of resources stemming from oil wars in the Middle East.

[@ericjohnson2024]

Shapiro is far too short to get on top of a basset hound.

[@speedmastermarkiii]

@ted dymski Lol, in your wet dreams, obviously.

[@thewhiteportugeuseisnotama9982]

The only way to appreciate the Mad Max films without going crazy because of the lapses in logic is to treat each film as its own thing and to understand that Miller was highly experimental in his approach to filmmaking...

[@Lieutenant_Dude]

Yeah, but understanding a way that the proposed timeline could occur is fun in its own way. A veritable apocalypse had happened by the events of Mad Max. I just don't think it was nuclear in nature. That probably happened immediately before or immediately after Road Warrior. Considering how nuclear winter hadn't wiped out the vegetation in Mad Max, and how EMP from nukes hadn't obliterated the electric grid in the first film, I would have to go with a nuclear exchange happening at the end of the events of the apocalypse, and other events like famine, water scarcity, disease, and economic collapse were the main parts of the apocalypse that we see in the first film.

[@blakedavis2447]

I’ve heard that some of the films are folk tales from different regions in the future which is why there’s plot holes

[@PhilboDraggins]

you just watch the first two and treat the other two as homages

[@frankkay625]

Well Miller said the idea is to treat them like campfire stories and that Max is a mythological character. If we all got together and I told a story about Max, and then you told a story about Max, doesn’t matter If your story lines up with mine in terms of details, or chronological order as they are myth.

[@GenX_Catholic]

Even at his worst, MAD MAX is the BEST!!!!

[@GreatSmithanon]

The impression I got from the films was that the city he left in the first film was basically on the verge of collapse. It seemed that the "police" were essentially a gang of volunteers trying to keep what was left of order. One might assume that sometime around the second film whatever was left of the cities were swallowed up by the wastes.

[@deanwilliams8159]

If the apocalypse had already began? There would be no police at all. There is also business still running. Shops etc. I say the apocalypse hasn't happened yet in the first movie..But not far off. By second movie it's there.

[@PhilboDraggins]

The world was at war for resources, but the actually apocalypse hadn't happened yet. Pretty sure he just drove into pine gap at the end of the first movie.

[@christianromero8041]

Mad Mad is the best thing to happen to the post apocalyptic genre.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

For the record, George Miller wasn't the director for the majority of this film. Instead, George Ogilvie, whom Miller had collaborated with in the past, took the directing reins for most of the production, with Miller directing the high octane acting sequences towards the end. The reason for this was because George Miller was grieving the loss of his friend Byron Kennedy, who had been killed in a helicopter crash while scouting locations for this film.

[@tallontedvideoandtechsolutions]

Unless Ogilivie rewrote the script I dont think he was responsible for the problems with this movie such as the kids inclusion.

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

@@tallontedvideoandtechsolutions I never said Ogilvie was directly responsible. Hell, having given the movie a proper rewatch I don't think Ogilvie was responsible for any changes made to the script or its premise. If anything, I'm more convinced that Warner Bros themselves wanted a movie that was more lighthearted and marketable (I mean, why else would they have cast a well-known musician such at Tina Turner), with a broader appeal and brighter tone than the depressing Mad Max and bleak Road Warrior.

[@videogamecin]

@@tallontedvideoandtechsolutions I don't consider that a problem at all

[@StylinandRaciallyProfilin]

Two men enter, One man leaves!

[@shawnm1902]

Stylin' and Racially Profilin' can, we apply this to politicians?

[@StylinandRaciallyProfilin]

I would give everything in my bank account to see Donald Trump fight Hillary Clinton with a chainsaw.

[@GenX_Catholic]

Handicap match, brutha!

[@raccoononymous]

SOUNDS LIKE MY EX!

[@NevermoreVendetta]

I love your profile picture, dude!

[@DoktorJeep]

That "Cow Car" was in fact the "Lone Wolf" from Mad Max 2.

[@dereklong2072]

Haven't seen such a great fight scene since 1998 when Undertaker threw Mankind off hell in a cell into the spanish announcer table.

[@godlyobject6509]

Before I watch, CONGRATS, Razor, getting on Louder with Crowder; hope they have you back again with a better setup!

[@GenX_Catholic]

Watching that video, Razor clearly had them eating out of the palm of his hand. Masterful.

[@punishedbearzerker5400]

Godly Object I'd love it if, at some point in the future, Razorfist became a regular and/or co-host of LWC.

[@greglyhoblit]

I concur go on more podcast type things razor

[@bkjbearcat78]

Godly Object was I the only one that wanted Razor to say "God fucking Speed!" When he singed off?

[@LordofApache]

Crowder is awesome. I've been waiting a long time to see Razor's glorious mug on that show.

[@Cryofax]

The first movie is clearly set in Australia. Who the hell could tell the outback from a post apocalyptic wasteland anyway?

[@outis439-A]

Wasnt even in the outback either.

[@novashnova1232]

This comment is even better now given current events.

[@paulheap1982]

@joe bloggs not American, genius.

[@MrDevious88]

The reason why Max went back to Bartertown was to steal away Master for his technical know-how, and Auntie gave chase to get him back. When she realized that Master was well beyond her grasp, she probably decided to leave Max alone, knowing full well that the Wastelands could easily claim him without wheels or supplies being available.

[@eldritchhrempf3395]

I can't wait for your Fury Road review.

[@MrCarpen7er]

Man is kidnapped. Woman leaves home with other women where food and water exist to escape dictator and to reach female paradise. Man escapes and helps them. Female paradise doesn´t exist anymore. Man helps women to get back home, kill dictator and live there forever.

[@michaelhorning6014]

My favourite of the series. The whole Lord of The Flies + Peter Pan × Gilligan's Island thing was brilliant.

[@Tzilandi]

16:29 "What the hell is happening here?" A kids movie reimagined as a Mad Max sequel, by the look of things. And it it gloriously insane.

[@whitezombified]

It even says in the beginning of the first film some parts of the world were more intact than others and with that they needed a police force . So that really is all you need, i never thought it was before the apocalypse

[@JnGArtimation]

With premise like Mad Max, anyone can be a "villain" based on their motives. I think it helps expand out some since there are factions that want to make territorial gain even if it's a small area. The strong will always want to dominate the weak making the weak always seem as the supporting "good guys". I do like the idea that anyone can be a hero and anyone can be a villain from a post-apocalyptic genre as well as being ambiguous with who's side you're on. I think what split's "Beyond Thunderdome" between fans was two stories going on. The idea itself make it sound like a gladiatorial pit fighter then the lost children story was added. Shining on them more than the idea of Thunderdome coming off as more of a backdrop to the story.

[@CorwynsWorld]

I've never understood the "not enough runway" thing... ever. But it's still a kickass film

[@wyldshot666]

Being a 14 year old, I LOVE this film. Seemed like it was on all summer.

[@angrykermit3192]

Every 10 years I give this movie another chance and every 10 years it disappoints.

[@Trencher1375]

Allegiances shifts often in the wasteland. You dont really need a designated villian for world like this.

[@bigkmoviesandgames]

R.I.P. Tina Turner.

[@GraveKenshin1991]

God damn the edits made me have to stop a few times to laugh or back up just to watch it again

[@RavenHouseMystery]

To go from The Road Warrior to Beyond Thunderdome is a big step down, but as Razorfist so elioquitly reminded me, this film still has some amazing scenes. Thunderdome is still better than all the post-apocalyptic knock-offs of the last two decades.

[@Paul_Colton_]

A PG rated sequel to an R rated film is always sus

[@zinith4524]

This is the greatest Australian Historical Documentary of all time...

[@ronniejdio9411]

" handicap match " ... I'm dead

[@Jose-se9pu]

Next week its gonna get ugly, Razor hates Fury Road, while the rest of the world loves Fury Road...

[@ghostfear2011]

Jose Colella He thought it was fine, but it was written with Mel Gibson in mind for Max.

[@bakunika1]

Jose Colella read his twitter he doesnt hate it. He said it would be better with old mel instead of hardy

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

It wouldn't surprise me if he did the review as a more negative piece, though. Especially when it comes to the theory about the suspiciously young looking Max being the feral boy from the second film. Razor just haaaaaates stuff like that instinctively. I'm running a surprisingly large gambling operation based solely on taking bets on whether or not he'll use the "feral boy fan theory" as a platform to launch one or more jabs at Hideo Kojima. You can double down on whether or not he's going to use that pic of Kojima meeting the film's director while wearing a Lord Humongous shirt.

[@hakeera1908]

Eh, It was ok to watch for the action(obviously the main point of a mad max movie) but the story was crap, and it was WAY more focused on Furiousa than Max.

[@n7troopern795]

Fury Road was shit. It wasn't even Max. only the chase scenes, and that's it. Its MAD MAX. Not feminist wasteland.

[@chrisg5219]

Terran Gell is the absolute best editor I have ever seen.

[@galatiangod]

This nigga just made my fucking day dropping a vid. Needed this.

[@alucard624]

Me too. Having a shitty day and then this video made it better thanks to the humor.

[@thewayfarer8849]

Same here.

[@blackenedwritings]

On it's own Thunderdome is solid 80s flick, as a Mad Max sequel it just feels wrong. I do love "Fury Road", though. The "only" thing that sucked was that it's basically a Furiosa movie. I really liked Furiosa as the main protagonist but Max rarely did anything and Tom Hardy, who I consider to be a good actor, gave us a pretty dull performance. Looking forward to the sequels although I will forever miss Mel Gibson. He still looks like a beast, he could be Mad Max again.

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

Totally agree about Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome. It takes the post-apocalyptic setting and that's about it. Fury Road feels more Mad Max-y.

[@Merkaba954]

What I wouldn't give for an action scene in 2021 that had actually zero CGI!!! The 80s and early 90s were so epic. They made shit like this with real vehicles people and objects

[@BobSmith-sl9sm]

You would think in a post apocalyptic wasteland, horses would be a hot ticket item and not fodder for the dessert. And the first movie is before the nuclear war. Suck it.

[@chesterstevens8870]

Came for the commentary, stayed for the Jim Ross memes.

[@MarkJohnson-ro1ed]

Auntie need Master to repair and maintain the infrastructure of Barter Town. Before he had Blaster to watch his back and protect him and without that muscle he was vulnerable. With Master on the airplane and out of Auntie's reach, they don't have the resources to pursue him and there is no point in taking revenge on Max.

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Plus I think she kinda respected him after all that.

[@menorcaventura3442]

The musical score for this movie is pitch perfect. I don’t mean the Tina Turner hits, but the score itself. Industrial wasteland music. Perfectly reflects the setting and theme.

[@cerveshred]

That remind me at the begin of the song jugulator from judas priest

[@aroberuto]

I believe she let him lives, because a) he earned her respect, b) he couldn't get his car back or c) she thought leaving him on the desert was enough.

[@My-Name-Isnt-Important]

Her goal was to recapture Master to oversee the methane production. Since she doesn't get him back, she has no real reason to go after Max, she gained total control over BarderTown which is what she wanted all along in the first place.

[@ptwob]

The original Madmax was a contemporary road movie(which borrowed heavily from 1974's Stone), the post apocalyptic theme was tacked-on with the second film, with a fuel shortage being the main reason for the collapse of society. Nuclear war happened after the second film originally but is now moved to before the second film to fit the narrative. Fury Road was written as a direct sequel with Mel Gibson reprising his roll, but due unfortunate events, a hefty delay, and the inevitable recast, the new film has even more story holes due to Tom Hardy's age. But who really cases, Max is more a legend than a man by this point.

[@OperatorOscillation]

I'm so glad you called bullshit on that "the first film takes place before the apocalypse" retcon.

[@imperator_88mm92]

Mansplain Blane I think civilization fell before the first one then the nukes hit between the 1st and 2nd.

[@barahng]

@@imperator_88mm92 If civilization fell, how would they have the infrastructure to maintain and launch nukes? People are starving and killing eachother in street gangs but there's enough of a state left to launch nukes?

[@magmos6346]

First half of the movie, kickass movie with the Thunderdome fight as a glorius highlight. Second half of the movie, a rejected Indiana Jones script.

[@deanwilliams8159]

Agreed. Mad Max & Peter Pan don't mix. Fuck knows what they were thinking?

[@moviemetalhead]

Master Blaster is Sloth's brother.

[@scottreacher]

This was the first Mad Max film I ever saw and I love it. 💀

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

It's beautiful in its own way. I genuinely enjoy the second half, and I think it serves as a nice bookend to the original trilogy when compared to how the first film starts with Max having a family with a kid, a band of brothers, a heroic reputation, and all that good stuff. It also helps to make the new content in Fury Road more poignant, with the idea that Max is stuck in this very relatable human cycle like all of us, where things get decent then just fall apart completely out of his control.

[@flyboymike111357]

My Senior Year of High School we had to make social contracts in each of our classes. I managed to get my 3-D animation class to pass "Thunderdome" as our rule for conflict resolution. Unfortunately this was about 7 years ago, so only the teacher and a couple classmates got the joke.

[@thethoughtcriminal8786]

Thunderdome is my favourite Mad Max film. I absolutely love the ending. I love that Auntie leaves him alive, and I love that he cuts a path for the kids to escape.....and that there is a good chance they all die from radiation poisoning. By the way the movie Bob reference was golden.

[@DBSG1976]

Great memory, seeing this opening day with my old man...summer of '85 baby!

[@PhilboDraggins]

As an Aussie I have mad respect for any yank that appreciates the first Mad Max. Also this is easily the worst real Mad Max movie to me but you're goddamn right about the fight in the dome being the GOAT

[@shadowvessel]

I was wondering what your opinion on the whole "multi level apocalypse" was. 😂 You're right, love it or hate it, the thunderdome scene is one of the great fight scenes in any movie. 🤘

[@Ozzy_2014]

That movie Im just old enough to remember! Magical era the 80s.

[@Ostsol]

This is one of a bunch of films my sister woke me up late at night to watch, some time back in the early 90s. There's lots of nostalgic value in it for me, also because it was what introduced me to the series. I still genuinely enjoy it, though, in spite of its many flaws.

[@grahampeters91]

Love that part with regards to the timeline arguement of the first mad max.

[@alucard624]

God bless you Razorfist for dropping this video today. I definitely needed some good laughs after having a completely shitty day, let alone week.

[@wretchardkimball9049]

That Alan Moore comic is, dead serious, the most self indulgent work of fiction I've ever experienced.

[@crossbones116]

In which Mel Gibson bullies the disabled.

[@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901]

18:58 Master fuckin salutes Max... How can you not love this movie?

[@heavyhebrew]

totally worth watching again. Thanks, Razor

[@dirvushhh7398]

even though my ears are bleeding from anime screeching, yeah I'd recommend this episode to my friends.

[@GetBenched2010]

WOULD SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!!!

[@Vorpal_Wit]

I lost my shit @ "Spurious George"! Well done.

[@aRedMage101]

I love Mad Max because it gave me Fist of the North Star.

[@charlietoole8707]

In the theater, first run of course. Angelo Rossitto as 'Master', was in Freaks '32 and the Wizard of Oz '39.

[@theScrupulousBerserker]

Absolute LEGEND in the cinema breakdown niche 🙌🏼🎬

[@j74s98]

This is my favorite of the series.

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

Mondo Milf! :D I'm glad you just jump right into appreciating everything awesome about this film. I was looking forward to this as "the only Thunderdome review that isn't going to start with a ten minute apology". Oh, and, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN~ :0

[@Fargoth_Ur]

I love the first half of this movie. After that, I can be stone-cold sober, and yet I still feel like I'm stumbling through some drunken haze trying to endure the rest. No matter how many times I watch it, the second half still sends me through a fucking loop.

[@deevan1415]

We don't need another hero. We don't need to know the way home. All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome.

[@systemfailure421]

Razor-Sempai noticed me! That makes all those years of being picked on for being in band worth it to know that is still a tenor sax!

[@freewheeler8924]

Yep, *Rose Tattoo* , a great Aussie band. BTW, anyone wanting to watch the original Mad Max again: please watch the Aussie version, not the American release where they the overdubbed the Aussie accents! That is an abomination.

[@Albee213]

Love this movie.

[@gordonjlightfoot]

Dr. Dealgood introduces Mad Max into Thunderdome as "The Man With No Name". When Max first meets Master, he is asked "Who You?" He replies "Me Max"..so they would know his name

[@sonykroket]

These movies were such an icon and groundbreaking.

[@CeroneGamesGo]

Razor is the ambassador of Metal. Never heard of M.S.G Desert Song until this Video. And Magic Man in the other video. God Fkn Speed!

[@mikeywobblez]

They have a thunderdome at burning man with matches nightly! It's epic!!

[@jdsrcs8061]

Hahahahahaha I have watched this vid a few times Razor and all the wrasseling references make it gold Razor!!! Good job brother!!! Oh yea and life goes on to!!!!

[@robertparker6280]

This is the only Mad Max movie I haven't seen yet

[@garyschlagheck4871]

AWESOME!!!! a metal take on awesome movies! I am tired of people hating on movies. more please. :)

[@jasonmosler]

wish i could upvote this 100 times

[@Siegetower]

I hated those kids when I first watched it, decades ago now. Still do.

[@peoplekind8201]

Diggin the amount of classic priest tunes in your vids.

[@Dan-fx8nf]

that Life Goes On moment had me laughing for five minutes or more

[@hugooliveira2104]

the best chase scene in the franchise, the best fight scene in the franchise, memorable lines and characters... why do people hate this movie?

[@chrisperrien7055]

Great movie for its concepts and action, great review/commentary too, and in 1983 with all the drugs it was really good. = Fallout today

[@theclawyaww3740]

RIP Blaster what a legend

[@davecam4863]

I love these movies even more after I listen to Razor's narrative. FUCK YEAH.

[@foxhound5699]

Can we get a big fucking 'fuck the hell yes' for Knights of the Old Republic referencing The Thunder dome announcer in the Taris fight pit?

[@GIJOERO]

10 out of 10 will watch again

[@jeremycarnes1656]

Judge me. I love this movie.

[@ImInLoveWithBulla]

George Miller couldn’t get his usual music writer for this one, so he had to settle for…. Maurice Jarre?! Like, from Lawrence Of Arabia, Grand Prix, The Man Who Would Be King? Nah, it must be another Maurice Jarre. Surely.

[@menorcaventura3442]

It is that Maurice Jarre. Father of Jean-Michel. The score is brilliant.

[@allenharper2928]

I'm lookin' behind us now, across the count of time, down the long hall, inta history back!

[@robertparker6280]

DAMN! Is Tina Turner fine in this movie!

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

Yes.

[@RadioPlastic]

"Save it for the Semanticsdome, E.B. White" - Sanchez

[@phoenixzion82]

Maybe it's because I love this movie...but god damn Razor. You fucking killed it!

[@SDMFTommySick]

I want to request you review the movie Scanners I think you'll really nail it

[@MyWhatsyourface]

Just watched StevenCrowder ep 215, Congrats Razor, hope you grow as a channel and as a person.