Is the 2023 Civic Type R the PERFECT performance car? 5 Things I HATE & LOVE

[@BigBear--]

For the millionth time...That "Fake Vent" in the front bumber he keeps saying is non-functional, IS NOT A VENT. It's an Aero Kick-Out for air to flow smoothly past the front wheel/tire and not get sucked into the wheel well. It's meant to kick the air out around the front wheels, so that the air that's directed in for brake cooling, can have uninterrupted flow into the wheel well, and flow out the side vent relieving high pressure in the wheel well. It's a purpose driven functional piece of aero design, not "just a fake vent". The Honda engineers specifically talked about their being no fake aero pieces on this car vs the FK8, they wanted everything that is there to be functional, and nothing extra just for looks.

[@Hondaddy]

Facts

[@timbrown9731]

Agreed and that’s what I was thinking as well they don’t do it on purpose

[@whosdondada]

Thank you for the info

[@deenoc3622]

Savagegeese had a segment in their review with the chief designer of the FL5 type-R, who said there are no fake vents on the FL5. Everything has a purpose.

[@BigBear--]

@@whosdondada No doubt. If you're interested Savagegeese has a great introductory review of the FL5 Type-R. In the video they have some interviews with the engineers, as well as Honda's technical slides about the car. One of the slides demonstrates what I'm talking about...but they're all interesting.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I love how you own a Ford Focus RS, Subaru WRX STi, FK8 Honda Civic Type R, and a FL5 Honda CTR in your garage! You are a hero and automotive company’s around the world are grateful for your hard work and support!

[@firesyde424]

There is a module behind the glovebox that's responsible for the piped in noise. If you drop the glovebox, you can see it. Comes out with a simple screw driver and doesn't hurt the car in any way.

[@mertcakir233]

Price should be 36-38k. 45k for civic is just too much.

[@latino914]

Well it can outperform cars that $80k and above. So you're still getting a good deal.

[@sbs-0055]

Find me one for 45k and I’ll buy it today

[@bigweedonly]

Dont forget the 20k dealer markup! There should be some sort of mandatory MSRP pricing combined with a no resale clause. Sell the cars to people who will drive them and punish dealers selling above MSRP, sad state the enthusiast car market is in.

[@killthemall55]

@@bigweedonly which makes it $65k. maan that was fully loaded hellcat out the door price 2 years ago 🥲

[@RaitisRides]

Pricing for everything has gone up!

[@gahangore111]

I think there's a reason why almost every car KZbinr has bought one of these. Fantastic all around vehicle.

[@turbo_tin]

Totally an awesome car!

[@RaitisRides]

You are spot on the money about that!

[@RaitisRides]

So very true!

[@mattpipke5716]

I don't think it is the car 100% that is the reason so many content creators bought one as it is they had the money to burn from their channels, they figured they will make money on it so go ahead and never stopped to think, what about my subscribers, the regular hard working people who always wanted a car like this, finally they have a chance so why ruin that? Greed, that's why, ugly sad, greed. I think they did it more for the views, subs and $$ that comes with that. which killed the market for regular folks like you and I. Unless of course you are willing to dump 5 to 40k$ over sticker which I am not. Putting the car out of reach for regular people buy giving in to dealer demands hurts us all and it really irritates me the greed these people demonstrate rather than the feeling of community. A community acts together for the best interest of the group, the greater good. But you can see none of these youtubers did. Not even our so-called buddy Raiti. He put his desire and easy money from KZbin to work for him so he could get what he wanted without thinking about his subscribers who as a result may never get to own an FL5. Weaker, less patient players will say, hey capitalism, and hey make more money etc.. but there is no need to pay over sticker for this car, ever. If he and all others just said no I don't think a Civic is worth $50k Ill wait. We would all be able to afford the Type R. Production would ramp up and more cars would flow to America. They just want more, more subs, likes, and dollars from advertisers. Meanwhile if they had the guts to stand tall on it, even if it meant not being the first to own the Type r, and just said NO to dealers, they could have regulated the market for everyone. Now it is a mess.

[@StrongerThanEver84]

@@mattpipke5716 jesus christ you wrote a fuckin novel crying like a b***h lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@brentengstrom5406]

There are definitely things I don't like about my car too. But like you always say, "No car is perfect." Love it!

[@brentengstrom5406]

Save the turtles!

[@moflow99]

Love this, and would really like to see more vids on the cars you own. You've got some sweet rides Raiti 😁👍

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks will do!

[@wbwayne8887]

He's got really good taste in automobiles and the means to indulge thanks to hard work and dedication. Joe and Lori.

[@bjammin187]

Congrats on your new Type R, Mr Raiti! You truly are a connoisseur of the finest of vehicles.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for taking the time to say that!

[@jdmanreviews9383]

do you still own this and will own this for the next 15 years? thank you

[@xp50player]

I paid extra to get the gloss door trim for my Sport Touring, because it looks better with tinted windows. You can, of course, get all matte black parts, but then some people report sun bleaching deterioration of those.

[@tony62]

I really like the vids where you just talk about your personal experiences and opinions on cars

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@Cobra_460]

Joe thank you for bringing this to us! Steven you’re the best!😊 keep doing these reviews on your fl5 civic type r, and please do a video doing a Costco run!! I’m torn between the integra type S and this type R

[@BigBear--]

The stiff ride in R mode is stiff on purpose. It's there so that if you plan on seriously tracking the car, not just for fun. It's there so that when you use proper full race, R-Comp, tires the car doesn't get unsettled on track. If the tires are super sticky, and the suspension is too soft, it will upset the car on track. R Mode isn't really for street driving, even though I personally don't have a problem with it when you want to do some spirited back road driving.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for your intel.

[@BigBear--]

@@RaitisRides I'm curious how many miles you have on your FL5 so far. Mine seemed to soften up a bit after about 1,500-2,000 mile break in on the suspension. Not crazy mind you, just sorta smoothed out those sharp edges a bit. Comfort is more supple, Sport is a proper middle ground, and while R is stiff, it's a bit less bouncy and more settled than day 1.

[@93Tillinfini]

I called every dealership in Alberta, Canada between today and yesterday, no dealerships have any available and all dealerships had 10-20 people on the waiting lists. I am crushed I can't find one. Most dealerships have 10-20 people on next years waiting list and some dealerships said they are waiting until 2032 for everyone on the list to get one, if hypothetically everyone on the list were to fulfill their spot on the waitlist. mind-blowing. One dealership told me that they are still affected by the silicon shortage for computer chips. I NEED A WHITE ONE BUT CAN'T EVEN SETTLE FOR ANY COLOUR.

[@goldendrof]

17+ minutes into the video "I don't know about you, it's all about the love to me..." Then you start driving the car. Before that it's just waffle about PPF, wing colours, gear shifters etc. You've missed the point. It's a Civic, not a Porsche. Drive the f*cking thing and be happy!!!

[@RaitisRides]

LOL Thanks

[@michaelmoore4937]

You hit the nail on the head with your choices of negatives. In my opinion this is the best overall generation but they made some odd choices to make the exhaust and the side vents severely toned down or just for show.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks man for sharing your thoughts on this one.

[@BigBear--]

I've told him same thing I'ma tell you. Those front bumper "fake vents" that he likes to "zonk" aren't fake vents. They're called air-kick-outs. They're a functional and intentional part of the overall aerodynamic design for the front and side. They're there to kick out air in a smooth laminal flow out and around the front wheel well/wheel/tire, and send it down the side of the car. It's there so that the air that's directed through the brake cooling dams in the bumper have a smooth flow to the brakes and out the side vent (also relieving high preasure build up in the front wheel wells). All of that is meant to work together to keep the brakes cool, keep the pressure in the wheel well low, and maintain smooth laminal flow down the side of the vehicle. There are engineering slides out there of their wind tunnel testing, showing the various air flow for the different parts of the aero setup for the Type-R, along with brief explanations. I think Savagegeese shows some of them in his introductory review of the Type-R. One of the things the Honda engineers wanted with this generation of Type-R was to have all functional aero design, and drop any fake aero pieces like they had on the previous FK8.

[@Scythersmile1]

The insert on the front is a functional air dam designed to settle the current around the tires lol. It is functional just not a vent.

[@davidp2888]

Great looking car, Joe! I agree, the exhaust sound needs some help. Wishing you many miles of safe and fun driving ON THROTTLE.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks David for being so kind.

[@EpicNinjaRides]

@@RaitisRides I bet you can swap the Integra Type S exhaust over and get some better sound.

[@r3games1985]

My new Camry TRD also has the red seatbelts for the extra 5 hp. 😅

[@RaitisRides]

You know it!

[@IamJay02]

I definitely think you should put an aftermarket exhaust on this car.

[@RaitisRides]

Agreed

[@KayD14]

Not sure if the FL5 allows it, but the FK8 you can unplug the pumped in engine noise. Think it’s a plug underneath the passenger side dash

[@RaitisRides]

I believe this is the same

[@DragonKnightX12]

Probably not a good idea till you get a proper exhaust.

[@apkn1955]

I was jumping between Corolla gr and this. You sold this to me with that space in the trunk.

[@chachingx4120]

More type r vids 🎉, Waiting for full exhaust and intake!!!!!! This channel slaps!!!!!

[@ksorsomeplace]

I would suggest that Honda use a full length center console. This would give the interior 4 bucket seats and some additional style. For me personally, I'd remove the rear wing altogether and paint the wheels silver and add all season tires. I want some nice driving, but don't need/want all-out track capability.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for you thoughts on this one.

[@supay6537]

Wow was your car even ON at 5:50 😂 Honda F up with that exhaust. Nice video as always! 👍🏼

[@bretthansen8166]

I love the new Type R, but the prices they are selling them for doesn’t seem worth it to me. I have a bone stock 1999 integra type R with 45,000 miles, and a bone stock 2007 WRX STI with 19,000 miles. I have a fully built ls3 5th Gen Camaro (667 whp) and a c6 Z06 Corvette as my “project cars”. I never sold a car, I’d pay one off, wait years and then buy another. For the $ they are asking for the Type R I’d rather get a Corvette, Porsche Cayman, etc.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.

[@Sp99226]

Great video once again! I think your mic might be going bad though , the last vid you made had interference as well , thanks .

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for the feedback

[@TheKopfjager]

Amazing videos Joe! keep them coming!

[@RaitisRides]

You got it Mike!

[@cvrdo5827]

I’m mind blown that stealeships are allowed to mark these up 20-30k. You’re putting this car in a different bracket of cars that it doesn’t belong to. I’m in CA and they aren’t scarce. They are in every dealership but they are having a hard time selling because of the ridiculous mark ups.

[@FRL2000]

Why are they still doing FWD on 300hp+ performance models?

[@Rooster1717]

How does it compare to a 2020/2021 STI as you have done quite a few videos on them (I own one now)?

[@vrdntfitness]

between your type ra, gt350, 1le, and this how do you decide what to drive everyday?

[@michaellorenz6699]

There's away to disable the fake sound through the glove box. Just disconnect the connector! There's tutorials on yt on how to do it. Super easy.

[@AcuraChannel]

Can't wait to see when the Civic Type R vs Integra Type S! I'm quite sure the Integra will be faster all the way around. Gloss black exterior finish gives it more of a luxury look...I like it..

[@emilemcgee6031]

My brother has a 2019 white civic type R he loves it

[@justinscheurer3211]

Good looking car just looking at this car since subaru stopped making the wrx sti. best reviews on the Web

[@gabes-t]

I like how the car's animation in the screen also turns as you steer the car. Nice little detail by Honda!

[@mickeybrumfield764]

You look good in the car, it fits you like sunshine and rainbows.

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for saying that!

[@gregorioribeirojr]

Amazing video!!! I'm looking forward to this car to arrive in my country!

[@RaitisRides]

Awesome my friend!

[@richardly438]

Can we remove the fake sound?

[@HoppersLab]

I have a 23 civic EX-L and i don't like the integrated wiper/sprayers, hate the auto shutoff at stop( i know i can shut it off every time i drive, but i shouldn't have to pay extra to make it disabled), hate that i can't disable the seatbelt alarm and the no cruise control unless the camera system is clear. and the A pillar could be moved back about 2".

[@philipc3153]

Do you like this better than your gt350r?? For everyday and track? And overall?

[@wbwayne8887]

05:44 🤷‍♂️ What Sound?

[@RaitisRides]

EXACTLY!!! LOL

[@wbwayne8887]

@@RaitisRides Pretty sure the aftermarket will more than take care of you on that issue. Just make sure it sounds better than the surprising Integra Type S exhaust sound.

[@fordTH7335]

Hey Joe, love the video. Just curious, what cars are in your fleet currently? Thanks for your hard work on this channel!

[@ThatCarGuy174]

HI JOE THATS SO AWESOME! ILL NEVER STOP COMMENTING!!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!!

[@RaitisRides]

You are the best! Thank you!

[@ThatCarGuy174]

​@@RaitisRides I know! I LOVE YOU!

[@jfz313]

Sold a 2022 Civic Si rally red and it had a horrible fit and finish and traded it for a 2021 Civic Type R and not much better in fit and finish but will never part with it.

[@ericiidx]

I'm really happy for you, being able to get this Championship White beauty! This was my dream car 20 years ago, and it still is, now more than ever with this new generation. I hope I get the opportunity to make a really stupid financial decision within the next few years before this thing disappears for good.

[@alikabok-es4sx]

Joe, Love this review. To the point and really very helpful. Thanks!!

[@RaitisRides]

That’s means the world

[@jp23x]

Lets keep it real man, this car isnt worth msrp. The only thing that makes this car so appealing to me is that it's so limited. If the typs s is mass produced and not limited its going to lose its appeal to me.

[@ag4591]

Is that a weather tech truck tray? How do you like it. Did you change your floor mats as well?

[@RaitisRides]

Yes & YES They make the best mats

[@ag4591]

Did the weather tech trunk tray have an extra piece of plastic on the subwoofer side? If so did you have to cut it off.

[@User-q6x3b]

Not speaking about sporty cars, just in general. I was curious how bad it is to floor and redline new engines. Many have a break-in schedule. Should they be taken litteraly or not? Thanks

[@RaitisRides]

Everything in balance

[@preetkanwargill9110]

@@RaitisRides ​ ….Sir please teach us and make an Video on how to utilize Break-in period on brand new Type -R….(practically while driving your typeR)…the video will be interesting and moreover some myth busting…

[@BobAyers]

No negative comments here…Awesome car all around!!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks Bob for sharing that!

[@andreaparadiso3805]

I think the car’s suspension is pretty stiff in all three settings. But, it is quite the machine! Honda really did an amazing job!

[@richardburns9772]

Ask your mom about stiff suspensions

[@chrisvigo4880]

What if you took a dremel drill to those vents and opened them? Would it ruin the functionality of the xar??

[@SuperKanuuna]

You can always change race exhaust pipe to your honda, so you get that sound what you've been looking for. Change intake filter too

[@RaitisRides]

So very true!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

Joe Raiti = Official 👑 of 🚗 Reviews.

[@RaitisRides]

You are the man!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

@Raiti's Rides Hey Joe have u reviews the 2024 GMC Sierra HD yet?

[@RaitisRides]

@@DarkJediChrisG-1425 it’s coming soon

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

@@RaitisRides Awesome Joe! It looks sharp and definitely is a looker!

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

@Eric Brett Ericball, says YOUS age then I'll tell mine buahahhaha

[@diamondknight4815]

I'd have to get an aftermarket exhaust. I like my cars to have sound.

[@tomzeto]

they deleted the real sound and gave you a fake one that you can't turn off lol. Love this Type R though just not the mark ups at dealerships. Thanks for the review!

[@DavidTMSN]

The oem wheels and tires on this car are nice.

[@RaitisRides]

I agree on that one David

[@TheKingkingg]

Congratulations on your amazing awesome car which is a dream car for many. My wife and I love our Elite a spec Canada 🇨🇦 version MT black Integra 🇨🇦 ⚫️ 🖤 ♥️ and its super fun, so we can imagine type R and type S. Your exterior gloss black could be wrapped with satin black

[@linacarlot5676]

I'd like to replace the high- performance soft tires on my 2023 Type R when due for new to all- season radials. What are your thoughts?

[@jimsdetailinggarage]

Great review. Watched every second of it. I actually like this version of the Type R over the previous one. It looks a bit more tame. Laughed aloud about the turtle in the road.

[@javiermojica26]

I hate the reverse camera resolution.

[@AllDayErrDay.]

Thinking about trading it in for the Integra Type S?

[@timbrown9731]

Probably one of the best front wheel drive cars ever!

[@turbo_tin]

Agreed on all your points Joe. Looking forward to upgrading this car!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks Tin! Stay tuned!

[@BigBear--]

I'd be curious what the stock exhuast would sound like if you do resonator deletes...there's 2 resonators I think, so would be interesting to see one deleted, then both deleted and see what it sounds like in both cases. Or....maybe leave the resonators, and delete the muffler....or a combination 1 resonator and the muffler.

[@RaitisRides]

That’s what we are going to do.

[@BigBear--]

@@RaitisRides Looking forward to it. Also, be on lookout for your drivers seat frame starting to squeak, especially if you rock your body side to side (mine started developing at around 1,300-1,800 miles). This is a known issue, and I already had my seat frame replaced once under warranty, even though my rep let me know quietly it looks like a recall and redesign may be on the way (she didn't want me to have to wait with a squeaky seat). If recall happens I'll get it switched out again for new design, though so far the squeak hasn't returned and it feels more solid. Driver size and weight doesn't seem to be the issue, as people from 130lbs up to 345lbs all experience same problem with the seat. This is all part of the early adopter problem. There are almost no aftermarket parts out for the new car, and you become the beta tester shaking down the new car design and any aftermarket parts.

[@opadilla123]

6:40 im sorry i have the fk8 and it pulls all the way to 7200 dont understand why you say that actually the fl5 is slower than the type r fk8 in reall trials and even now that the fl5 had to be tuned to make the Nurburgring record and didn’t even have a roll cage like the fk8

[@zavioncharles8972]

It does not pull to 7200

[@cecilotto504]

The chassis is stiffer because its a 4 seater an it probably rides better with more passengers 💁🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Tyrael1701]

Love the continuing review of Type R!

[@bashiralqadhi3970]

Love your vids keep up the good work ❤

[@RaitisRides]

You got it my friend!

[@eek8605]

I test drove one in our country it is decently more expensive than the previous gen, and if I bought a brand new a car I would not modify it due to service plan and warranty... it is fun to drive but it really is just not that fast, especially at that price, to have even more fun you need power IMO

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for sharing that experience!

[@bobbyjones2112]

You should have the trim on the outside all painted matte black it would look so cool! It can’t cost that much to have it all painted. You would think…lol

[@RaitisRides]

Good idea.

[@mrspencer72]

Is plus r mode stifffer than your Focus RS? Because that was a complaint of the RS in any mode...

[@nikalayeu]

Joe please do a comparison with VW Golf R

[@RaitisRides]

You got it!

[@paulstabin6233]

Some of your best work here. Wishing you many years of fun with this jewel of a car. I appreciate the cooling improvements, Log R, interior dash tweaks, improved shifter, extra power, and custom modes of this gen. But keeping my AB '18 FK8 since I much prefer the styling, slightly lower weight and shorter length/ turning circle, no pumped in noise, not to mention cost. Oops I mentioned it. Both gens are great- with no real competition- other so-called 'competitors' fail in one or more areas. At any price. It says a lot when top auto journalists plunk their own money down on a model. And please do more videos like this of your own collection.

[@RaitisRides]

That means the world! Thank you & will do!

[@Freddy_Confetti]

All that feedback in the mic is his finest work lol

[@michaelfragoso4449]

Are you able to turn off the fake car sound mode coming through the speakers?

[@carlo6912]

My 96 accord was $20k brand new. I can't see myself paying over 40k for a civic. It's beautiful, enjoy it. Can life get any better than driving around in your type R in beautiful FL.

[@zavioncharles8972]

With inflation that’s $38k, very unfair to compare a completely different time to now

[@douraidi20]

Exhaust is too soft noise needs a louder or after market exhaust better. 315 HP should have been 330 HP better and RWD not FWD.

[@RaitisRides]

Drive one and it might surprise you.

[@davonne225]

I kinda agree with the zonks on the exterior with the gloss black on the grille. It should be matte black and the door handles and roof should also be black. Not sure why so many companies do the fake vents on performance cars.

[@bmlove81]

Does the Type-R have an individual mode? So you can have the engine, and transmission in sport mode. But the suspension in comfort mode?🤔

[@zavioncharles8972]

Yes it does

[@awhitt1044]

This and the previous FK8 are those, if you know, you know cars. If you have driven them on proper roads or a track setting, you get it. They are likely worth more $ from a driving experience perspective. Very underrated cars. Can’t expect internet dummies to get it. They’re only basing it on power numbers, and straight line performance. Which means very little in real world driving or track driving.

[@dervthebeast5130]

It’s a Honda

[@caffeinefix2751]

Just pull the exhaust valve fuse from the engine bay. There was a procedure on how to do it on forums, takes 2 minutes. Car sounds maybe 10 percent better not huge but I guess a bandaid fix until porper catback systems come out, and go down in price (i'm not paying 3k for no exhaust!)

[@RaitisRides]

This is so very true! Good call!

[@AsapMeech187]

A smart decision is just to wait or just get a fk8 ppl paying 50k for a civic is just dumb I will be getting one but I’m not rushing at all

[@quercus5398]

A 20.000 car pre-pandemic to over 50.000 $ ?

[@RaitisRides]

Things are crazy!

[@gotentk4]

I wish they add automatic cuz i can't shift haha

[@drill_fiend1097]

I mean if you are aiming for a sporty ride, stiff suspension is what you will be getting. Maybe offroad oriented rivals like WRX might be softer but the Civic is strictly road vehicle.

[@ralphblog3874]

Hey do you know if there’s gonna be a 2024 type r is the 2023 the last production?

[@richardburns9772]

Yo Raiti, great review. Comment about your issue with ride stiffness (that’s what she said). You could consider downsizing your rims 1in and increasing tire height for a lil sidewall flex and enhances ride compliance.

[@rickeybradley2635]

Glad to see the FL5 again.

[@jarelsuckrajh5932]

One i dont like is the electric parking brake I wish they would come with mechanical parking brake same for the previous generation of type r

[@bobbyjones2112]

And yes, do some more in the depth videos of your other cars! That would be kind of fun, I don’t think you’ve done it on them.

[@MC-qf6ms]

When’s the comparison of this against the Subie Type RA that you also own? Curious how this stacks against it and also the Subie S209 since you have had seat time in that also.

[@whosdondada]

Would you replace it for an Integra Type-S?

[@RaitisRides]

No I would not

[@mickc7939]

The gloss black is nice compared to fake carbon, The exhaust sound is a let down maybe a sports cat might help it a bit before swapping it out. It’s an awesome car and built in Japan this time ❤

[@Akongmeng515]

Time to trade that in for the integra type s

[@RaitisRides]

We will see.

[@badbunny4044]

Honda still a Honda 🙌🏽🔥💕love my type r 2020 red ❤️

[@RaitisRides]

So very true

[@xxraverxxonxtacy]

Thanks for the honesty Joe, but was this an Exit Interview/Trade in for a new Acura Integra Type S coming to the Raiti's Garage 🤔😏😎

[@RaitisRides]

LOL We will see Hunter!

[@HondaProJason]

I’m in the know! LOL Great vid

[@dantealvarado7715]

45k for a 315 hp.this is the reason why I’m not into the jdm scene.over priced and the numbers are just low.

[@hahaadventures4838]

I prefer a 450hp pro-tuned VB WRX. AWD puts down the power better! There’s nothing like coming off a corner at wide-open throttle with no wheel spin. BTW, I couldn’t even hear the engine when you started it. 😂