Is the 2025 Toyota GR86 Hakone Edition a special sports car to BUY?

[@aaronhenschel1885]

Thanks!

[@aaronhenschel1885]

Lori and Oscar hi

[@RaitisRides]

Oh wow Aaron! Thank you for much for your great support and generosity.

[@RaitisRides]

They said hi right back at you!

[@sidt1572]

I'm so glad you said it "Hakone". When I was trying to check out the GT Hakone, the sales person kept proudly saying "Hack-1"

[@davidp2888]

I wouldn't even modify it. It's beautiful as is.

[@1Solace]

I would only probably get a catback and nice coilovers with an inch drop

[@ADADIZZLE]

It’s wise not to ever modify a Subaru engine. There is a mode you could consider and it’s deleting the fake engine sound.

[@edwarddejong8025]

A super nice color combo; the bronze wheels with the green and drak gray is very tasteful.

[@ronaldhitchings1847]

Thanks! Appreciate the update on the "Hakone" edition. In case you're not aware, the JDM version is called "Ridge Green Limited. Only 200 units produced. Not sold in dealerships. You fill out an application through GR garage stores. Then, applications are chosen through auction. The application period is closed. So, based on the info, the JDM version will be built before the U.S. version. Except for the right-side steering, multimedia display for the Japan market, and tan stitching on the inside door panel that says "Ridge Green Limited", it's the same car. Check this out. If I was currently living in Japan, which I did a few years back, and I was able to purchase this car, it would only cost me $27000, based on the.current 146 yen to $1 dollar. I'm torn on the bronze color wheels. I like the contrast of the red brakes provided. Since the Japan financial market has been rocky lately, pricing on the U.S. version maybe unpredictable at this time.

[@itsJulianLam]

@ronaldhitchings1847 Have you noticed the JDM version does not have the extended high wing 'ducktail' spoiler.

[@ronaldhitchings1847]

@itsJulianLam Yeah, I saw that. Toyota Japan offers the 86 ducktail spoiler as an option, painted or unpainted. Regards.

[@theiaraine]

gr86 just keeps getting sweeter. One of my dreams.

[@DarkJediChrisG-1425]

Joe is on fire with these virtual unveils!

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks for letting me share all of these goodies with you!

[@MiaRKA44]

Raiti's ur so good at explaining everything on a car to help us understand what we are getting in to ur the best ❤❤❤

[@RaitisRides]

That is so freaking awesome of you to say Mia!

[@dusandestanovic5884]

It really looks good in that green and with those wheels.

[@specialk9999]

You would love driving to Hakone. Lots of mountainous twisty bits. Hakone has lots of hot springs

[@porfiriato84]

Color combo is gorgeous

[@TheSpeedDemon64]

Wow! This is such a cool edition for the GR86

[@numb3rcrunchr90]

I agree with you on the gold Brembo’s!

[@raist315]

That color alone would make me want one!

[@paulitik7]

I love the red calipers. It’s just enough red.

[@johnregan4228]

My 23 is black…everything. While I like it, I said from day one that green would look incredible on this car. I was right! It’s gorgeous.

[@dominickirkwood]

Joe and Lori and Steve keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍

[@Andrew-mk7rm]

Would be cool if they offered this edition in more than just green... I think it would look good in the Halo white color with the bronze rims

[@dannyboy1012]

You are the best joe your car reviews are the best on KZbin. 👍

[@RaitisRides]

Thanks my friend for your awesome support!

[@BikesCarsAndSake]

Great video - great looking car!

[@scarabmango]

Nice to know my '22 won't be missing any speed upgrades. It took a LONG time to get from Texas to here in the Midwest. Now I'm waiting while it's serviced and hope to go pay it off soon!

[@cbotten106]

Looks like the perfect spec! I guess checking what the mark-up is would be in order before I proclaim a purchase is in the cards.

[@timp9822]

This car looks amazing, thanks Raiti

[@lordkent8143]

The Hakone will always be "HAWK ONE" to me thanks to Raiti's rides !

[@daraung8979]

Thank you for this video. I love content like this that educates us on what special edition cars are.

[@markallen2984]

Lovely special edition

[@amill1563]

Beautiful color and interior.

[@anthonyvigneault3389]

that green color look like british racing green

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Looks good but the British racing green color that's on the Lotus Emira would look amazing.

[@roustabout4fun]

It's like they poured a bucket of aqua on top~ Unpretentious but has some pizazz. With some onion and Garlic, basil...I can live with the zesty' tomato-red calipers~ The turn signals get a bit of a zonk but not a deal breaker. (my comment got zonked with the 10 r so excuse my repeat) Have fun-be safe Thnx Lori and Oscar for the winner's Photo finish. Tan or Beige calipers would blend in with some dusty canyon runs~

[@LeFatalpotato]

Red brembo calipers and cherry tomatoes are goat!

[@RaitisRides]

I see what you did there!

[@bullittboost6046]

It looked sweet. I almost bought the last Hakone edition but after talking with you decided to wait. Drop 38k in a New York Minute

[@stevenjames1138]

Really love that color combo! I want one!

[@rickjames6867]

Slick little car.

[@timy9962]

I think it’ll be $35,080 msrp for the MT.The 10th anniversary was $34,360 and the trueno was $34,720 so if we keep on with that 360 dollar trend i think that’ll be the price for the hakone.

[@DominionAnako-bb7ry]

Love your car video

[@soruyo210]

I’m really excited for what the Prelude could bring to the table

[@MrMashman93]

I absolutely love this car!!!! Special imo.

[@Uncle19]

Dream car that’s affordable. Love this car.

[@RaitisRides]

You just hit the nail on the head!

[@bryantcurtis7]

What a great looking car. Love it even more than the Trueno edition.

[@Jaybird563]

Joe, when are you going to get your hands on a 2025 Honda Civic Si??!!

[@RaitisRides]

Next month!

[@amill1563]

Is this a variation of Spumoni?

[@MajorAddiction]

Not sure if it’s a different green than the previous Hakone edition but i liked the previous version better 😅 it’s cool they did another one though

[@mickeybrumfield764]

Looks great. The calipers painted silver would look good. I was thinking the same thing about the red. If I were in the market for a sports car, I think I would pay 37 or 38k for it.

[@itsJulianLam]

Looks like you guys in the US are the only market badging this car as the Hakone Edition. On all the videos I've seen from Japan on this car, it does not have any Hakone badging on the vehicle. The same goes for all the promotional material in Australia, which has been allocated 86 units. Also, it appears the US market is the only country getting the extended high wing 'ducktail' spoiler.

[@zipzap4706]

Canada getting ducktail spoiler as well

[@itsJulianLam]

@zipzap4706 interesting, I have not come across any media release that mentions Canada will be allocated any of the GR86 Hakone Edition cars. All I've read is that Japan has been allocated 200 cars, Australia 86 cars, and USA 860 cars.

[@SuperDarkLord7]

I personally prefer the last special edition with the Trueno edition. Still concerned about the issues on the right turns with regards to oil pressure/engine. Part of me just wants to wait for the next 86 model, which supposedly is all made by Toyota(no Subaru).

[@1Solace]

Oil starvation instances have been overblown in the media but they did come out with a bandaid if you want to track it.

[@SuperDarkLord7]

@1Solace what's the band-aid for this? I've seen some videos discuss warnings more than any particular fix.

[@1Solace]

@@SuperDarkLord7 People need to talk about it. You can look up tests here where 86 owners go from 15 oil pressure on some corners to around 50 using a device called an accusump or an oil accumulater. People are still working on baffles and other fixes but its something 🤷

[@Texas_Clay]

Nice car!

[@ruturaj47]

I hope reviews are out before my order gets to dealer. I have 2023 BRZ and don't know how much of improvement the steering improvement would be.

[@17cmmittlererminenwerfer81]

Really like the color. Interior's a bit dated, but overall pretty appealing machine. And the seats are great, feels rather British 1960s.

[@marvincaraballo3135]

Love it ❤ 37k its a steal

[@Almendarez28]

If and when the new Celica comes out I'm sure the 86 will go away. I think the Celica renderings looks better than the Supra

[@porfiriato84]

Okay Nostradamus

[@EnforcementDronEd209]

Agreed. I'm waiting for the Celica.

[@EnforcementDronEd209]

​@@porfiriato84🎪🤡🎈

[@fabianmolinari5566]

​@@porfiriato84😂😂😂😂👌

[@marvinmurakami8828]

I can't wait to see the new Celica and hope it causes Nissan to follow up with a new 240sx.

[@brosfourrspeedsucks]

i am getting this for sure

[@a.jennings4664]

Even after dealers add $5K to the MSRP?

[@SME5724]

This is beautiful

[@RevToRedline]

I just literally bought a 2024 Neptune blue premium in auto today !!!! I can’t wait it comes in Saturday !! It’s a DD so I’m excited for a fun DD for once in my life lol.

[@fivepotfury1132]

Congrats!

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Gonna have fun in the twisties!

[@RevToRedline]

@@marvinmurakami8828 I cannot wait !!!!

[@RevToRedline]

@@fivepotfury1132 thank you !!

[@alankingchiu]

Last gen Hakone was gorgeous, this one looks just as good.

[@C.C._TJ_Jason]

Oh yeah! I asked my Toyota dealer about these, she said that you’re only getting one if you’re essentially a preferred/loyal/repeat customer.

[@porfiriato84]

What TF?? This can't be real

[@Carlos.Rivera]

​@porfiriato84 bullshit marketing. It will have the price of a MK5 Supra😂

[@porfiriato84]

​@@Carlos.Riveracan't imagine the markups. CTR all over again SMH

[@ruturaj47]

My dealer agreed to give me one at MSRP when they get a allocation

[@brassdg]

LOL. Sounds like they're saying you're only getting one if Toyota deems they're worthy of an allocation; which sounds like a no based on how poorly they responded to you.

[@_Kinetic]

If the Trueno edition also had the performance pack, unique exterior/interior, and limited production run of 860 units, but MSRP starting at ~35,815, outside of just the likely yearly bump in price, what else would influence that 38k price tag? Just trying to gauge price on my end, already locked down first slot for an allocation, excited to up/down/upgrade from a BMW M240 lmao.

[@VAN_Brady]

I had the same thought, i'm first for an allocation too. I'm guessing its gonna be a little more than the Trueno because of the actual unique paint vs decals and different coloured rims, whereas the Trueno just had the normal black, but still, in my mind it should be under $37,000... only other thing is that it will be a 2025 model year with a few upgrades that might bump up the price slightly too. If its a significant increase I probably won't bother.

[@_Kinetic]

@@VAN_Brady I doubt it would be anything significant outside of a nasty dealership markup. Though even if it were to start at 38k, I'd think you'd likely win out long term in terms of resale over 3+ years.

[@VAN_Brady]

@@_Kinetic Yeah, I think the market for any special edition GR86s is going to be much bigger than it ever was for the GT86. Looking at some of the videos showing off the Ridge Green paint better, I suspect a lot of people are going to want one after they see how good the car actually looks compared to the bland marketing pictures. Luckily for me, in Canada, mark-ups aren't allowed, but then again there are only 30 allocated for Canada with nearly 300 dealerships... hopefully that means one gets allocated for my order in the first place.

[@GhostlyBo]

Let’s go 🔥

[@bearclaw5115]

I don't think it's going to be 38k. The car is basically spec'd the same way as a Trueno Edition which went for $35,855. But I would expect this to have a price adjustment considering it's a 2025. My guess is that it will come in around 36.5k range.

[@hyllsx8720]

only real ones remember the “hawk 1” era 💀

[@rallymosm3331]

I'm like Gear Manual

[@pikachusolu1606]

why do you prefer Miata over this? any specific reason?

[@jbmectronic4314]

Backseat, looks..

[@Nick-hz2kl]

The car needed gold brakes I agree

[@Irishmanbikes]

Are you going to drive one Joe?

[@itsJulianLam]

The only thing holding me back from buying this is the RTV oil issue, which has been evident in the FA24 engine used in this second gen GR86/BRZ. From what I've heard on the internet, this problem is occurring on the 2022 to 2024 models. Does anyone know if this has been rectified on the upcoming 2025 GR86/BRZ?

[@porfiriato84]

🥱

[@jimmydeneus5322]

Me personally idgaf bout no car edition

[@RaitisRides]

You are not the first to say that.

[@alexxvaladez443]

That 0-60 time of 6 seconds is out----rageous. My grandmothers buick suv is faster than that.

[@marvinmurakami8828]

But let's see her try to keep up with it in the turns.

[@MrStylzz]

Nobody cares about the turns buddy ​@@marvinmurakami8828

[@brassdg]

@@alexxvaladez443 what model is that? Simple Google search has them mostly in the 7s.

[@You068]

$?

[@tomdrummy4984]

I’m trying to keep up with all these Raiti’s rides videos……….I may have to hire an assistant to notify me 😃

[@RaitisRides]

You are hilarious Tom! There is lots to bring you in the car world!

[@Mr.Reaper904]

Price point is ridiculous at 38k I can see 35k but the 38k that out of touch with consumers price. Good luck if they could pull it off but I doubt it 👍🏽

[@donluthringer7173]

Why not gold brembos?8 7 2024

[@jesserobison6869]

Say it with me HA-KO-NAY. Not HAH-CONEY.

[@Mookaton]

3k more fooor...different paint/wheel color and interior stripe color? The throttle mapping is a bs gimmick, any tuner can do that and then some for very little money comparatively. These prices are way out of line for what you get even for a non hakone edition.

[@srsg-wy8tr]

And then when the celica comes out, none of you broke enthusiasts buy it and are going to “wait for the first owner to suck up the initial price and will snag one used”

[@rustysweatshirt2903]

HA-KO-NAY

[@everrolmalcolm2933]

It needs more horsepower for the price..

[@MurseTech64]

I'll take a GR86 EV dition

[@1Solace]

Lol what's wrong with raw tomatoes?

[@duaneafields]

Question is will Hawk Tuah drive a HakOne?

[@fernandoquevedo9305]

Beautiful car to bad the motor is full of R T V

[@RaitisRides]

they have solved that issue Fernando!

[@jimmydeneus5322]

🤎🤎🤎

[@RaitisRides]

I am glad that you like this one Jimmy!

[@bgrant48234]

Yeah I believe that it's worth it.😕🙂🤓🤠😎😏👍✌️👋👏💪🌾🍀🌿🍃🇺🇸

[@andresmattos7541]

Annoying yeller 😂😂😂

[@tedunguent156]

That unpainted muffler RUINS the look of the rear end. I think it's the muffler. Then again, I don't like the matte paint or the wheels either. I'm going to the Subaru dealer.

[@RaftorAvila]

Lmao, have you SEEN the current gen wrx

[@tedunguent156]

@@RaftorAvila This is NOT the WRX. It's the Toyota version of the BRZ.

[@RaftorAvila]

@@tedunguent156 the BRZ has the same problem

[@tedunguent156]

@@RaftorAvila The BRZ doesn't have a Hakone Edition with an inflated price tag, fugly wheels and that horrible matte paint.

[@RaftorAvila]

@@tedunguent156 eh I guess , that’s not the only gr86 model though . But whatevs. These cars are slow anyway , better a Supra

[@EricCCNV]

I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but my eyes behold an ugly car with an ugly color of green.

[@kjss4345]

Exterior is great, but interior is cheap plastic Subaru which is a shame.

[@alexxvaladez443]

This car would be perfect if they added the supras tachometer, upgrade that shitty engine to a minimum of 350hp. Also bright yellow calipers. And a bigger infotainment screen.

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Would never happen cause it'd eat into Supra sales small as they are. But I think a maximum of 280 hp with 250 lb ft tq would be perfect.

[@a.jennings4664]

Yeah, and all for $35,000.00, LOL.

[@danny200mph5]

Please don't call it a "sports car" . It's a rwd compact car.

[@sid1852]

Please give us examples of sports cars then

[@Eminetics]

It’s crazy they haven’t put a turbo in this yet

[@rafeekrahim8301]

😂 1st

[@porfiriato84]

You were second bud

[@gordonb8052]

too bad it has the garbage subaru motor

[@RaitisRides]

It will be interesting to see what is next!

[@SuperDodoe]

A guy wearing a baseball cap giving design advice come on

[@ericfartman1663]

That's a fucking rebadged scion 😂😂😂😂

[@RaitisRides]

Not at all! Where have you been?

[@ericfartman1663]

@@RaitisRides come on you know that's true

[@roustabout4fun]

Thanks!