Bruce Lee vs Wong Jack Man: Mr. Lee's first real fight

[@brian4855]

Hi Ramsey and folks...well, i am that Brian, Ramsey is talking about! I remember that fight very well..It was against Isamura (not sure if I spell his name right?) Talented guy with heavy karate and even some Huang-gar kung-fu and BJJ background and for sure familiar with a cage..I think it was the very first time you Ramsey and me we meet..! Thank for your kind words of my skills. Indeed the fight was nearly as you described. But I need to correct some small things here. OK, the fight started and I used my Wingchun stance but not in IRAS , but a foot forward ...Isamura throw heavy big swinging punches to me and i got actually zero hit, because I used Wingchun principles..not so much techniques. One principles is what I also teach my students to keep the head back but the hands far forward..We have one hand far forward ( Man-Sao = searching hand) and the other a bit closer to the body but loaded as a spring. I see a fight like a war..just in the smallest constellation..Means the armee is in the front ( my arms) and the general (Head, who takes the decisions, back on the sofa..haha) Well, that is where i used a Wingchun concept but Ramsey couldn't"t know, because he didn't know Wingchun and therefore couldn't know the concepts...But indeed I have significantly background in Muay-Thai ( not only a bit Ramsey..16 years ;) ) And indeed, it saved my ass a lot too. And I knew from the beginning, that I cannot use pure Wingchun in that fight, because I don't even know, how that guy gonna fight me. So, the concept of Wingchun was, to get nearly not hit..that worked Ramsey..actually I got nearly NO punches or kicks from Isamura and I used the knees as we use in Muay-Thai or even in Wingchun in close clinch range ( Elbows were not allowed) But on the ground i did an arm-bar (In side-mount) but he was also very strong, so I had to put his arm down with the help of my inner thighs, close to my knee and that was again from the basic stance in Wingchun. Also I used Paak-da..means whenever he punched I blocked his punch (Paak) and simultaneous I punched (Da) with the other hand above and landed a strike. Also this is a Wingchun principle..two attacked the same time! And when he try to shoot a single or even double I didn't sprawl( how do write that?) because I didn't want to end up on the ground (Again Wingchun principle) but rather did the Chum-kiu step back with Gaam-sao to his head or neck to make him stay away..all Wingchun applications. But for sure I could have never won or survived a fight against such a strong opponent, without my fighting background which i gained in Muay-Thai and Jiu-jiutsu! And I added that sparring straight to my classes and also taught my students how to deal with Muay-Thai kicks and punches..Because they are a real threat!!! But thanks again Ramsey to take this fight as an example here and I am honored by your words. Too sad I never received the recordings of he fight. I ask Silas several times to give it to me, but he had stupid excuses why he lost it. I bet, he didn't like, that one of his top fighters losta fight and he didn't want it airborned...haha But Ramsey..it not that it woke me aup and all of sudden I had to change all my styles and got disappointed that Wingchun didn't work. First of all the principles of Wingchun worked but in a cage where different rules apply, you cannot apply pure Wingchun ..but I knew it before! I would never be so crazy ( as many are) and step with only Wingchun skills and zero fighting skills in a ring...insane!!! So, just to let you all know here..I wasn't surprised, neither disappointed or whatever..I knew, what I am doing there and thats it!!! Best regards to all..and good Video as always Ramsey...keep rocking ! Brian

[@RamseyDewey]

Thanks for clarifying Brian! I’m pinning this comment.

[@brian4855]

Awesome Ramsey .. thx .. have a great day .. best regards Brian

[@makinamuerte7590]

So you're saying your opponent landed ZERO strikes on you? N not to be rude but sounds like your wing Chun principles are the same basic principles of any martial arts lol. Also. What is German Jiu Jujitsu? Obviously its jiu Jujitsu from Germany lol but how is it different? Just curious.

[@lazur1]

@@makinamuerte7590".....nearly no...."

[@redeyejedi3753]

Maybe next time, can we get the "wife of Bruce Lee's description" ? Lol! Thank you for taking the time to give us a more intimate feel for the challenge you faced. I recognize the divinity in you

[@johncostello2948]

I have been in six brutal streetfights before I was 29 and happy to say I survived every one. What I learned is that I have no desire to ever be in another fight again. My best self defense advice is don't hang out with stupid people, doing stupid things at stupid times. This requires no training and will help you avoid 99.9% of stupid fights in your life.

[@Llucius1]

Yup , fighting in real life is actually very dangerous. I have been fighting in my childhood and I am lucky that I only mess up a little of my bone structure and no one break my leg or something. I know from a very young age , just use weapons.

[@todds.6451]

I seem to remember Mr. Miyagi of the Karate Kid saying something like, "Best defense in a fight: no be there when it happens."

[@HardHardMaster]

@@Llucius1 I don't think that's what he meant

[@leewightman8001]

Iv been in about 13 14 street fights lost a few but still hear

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Facts

[@kettlebellsandkungfu3301]

"Most of the people practicing these traditional styles are not good athletes, and in order to be a good fighter, you need to be a good athlete." You ain't never lied👍🏽

[@RK-um2bj]

Complete truth. I used to think I was a karate stud til someone smashed my face in, it was my Wong jack man moment lol

[@samson7842]

"Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson

[@andrel8243]

Hello. I world like to have your opinion about jeet kune do techniques. Thanks

[@riggtravis8147]

@@andrel8243 Heres mine you dont want your hands out trying to trap someone who knows how to punch

[@solitude731]

@@andrel8243 Hello Andre. Jeet Kune do's principle is the basis for MMA. The techniques of Jeet Kune Do were what Bruce Lee has learned at the time so some of them will be out of date. However, the idea of Jeet Kune Do is to adapt and learn everything that works. There is no "Boxing vs Tai Chi" You have to know and understand the purposes and limitations of both, because all is necessary.

[@doomhead3170]

@@solitude731 well said take what useful and disregard the useless

[@royalflush4789]

@@andrel8243 it doesn't work

[@lancepabon]

wow. so many fractured egos here. just because Bruce Lee wasn't superman...just remember, he decided to learn boxing, TKD kicks, judo and some grappling, because he knew he had holes in his technique. After that, he went for a new way of fighting. JKD...

[@mariustuca6221]

I say you are poorly informed JKD is based on 80% WING CHUN.

[@DaleKamp]

Far less than 80%. Boxing, fencing, Filipino Kali and many others were factored in.

[@mineabou]

antonio pabon JKD is also crap and won't help you much in a real fight

[@mariustuca6221]

@@mineabou I say you have no idea what JKD would not be good for the street. After Bruce Lee's death JKD was taken further by Dan Ionosanto. I say you did not give it to one who knows JKD calumea. You do not understand the arts Marriages are not effective by practicing only 2 years and you're good, you have to train all the time martial arts do not have a limit to practice until the end of life. It's not like in MMA to be aggressive and to throw your fists forward like the desperate.MMA it has no discipline, UFC is promoted because it is a money-making industry just like Pornohub and all porn industries. This is no longer promoted by anyone if it does not produce that money. MMA is for the show. The fighters are crazy. you only see violence, that promotes MMAl.

[@mineabou]

Marius Tuca So do you think that MMA is all about being aggressive and throwing your fists forward? You'd be delusional, Anybody who fights like that would just tire himself in the first rounds, You can't win an MMA fight without experience, Skill, Precision, Adaptability, Patience, Strategy and tactics There's nothing that'll prove to you either something works or not better than testing under real combat and pressure

[@TheClinchMagazine]

This is equivalent to me studying all night theories and methods of solving maths problems but not actually solving before exams just to get knocked out in actual exam. Because, I never actually solved them under time pressure.

[@Docinaplane]

I had a similar experience with TKD. I had already obtained my Shodan when I discovered a new school in town. They taught me to use my hands as well as the TKD kicking techniques I already knew. After a year, I went back to my original school and was so much more effective than the fighters that used to beat me. It still took a few years for me to learn the real truth. That was that my original school was the first step up the stairs. My new school was the second, but there were still more steps ahead of me if I wanted to become a complete fighter because there were those that had taken more steps than me. I could have lived in a safer cocoon, but that is not my nature. Not yours either, obviously.

[@RamseyDewey]

+Docinaplane as Mr. Miyagi said "someone always knows more." There's always another level.

[@johngault7329]

Well said.

[@frankcalvert7596]

Ramsey Dewey in the Joe Rogan Experience! Let's make it happen!

[@Chief2Moon]

Frank Calvert A good idea whose time has come...I'd listen to them together on a broadcast.

[@timothyfreeman97]

Ramsey isn't vulgar enough. Joe wouldn't want him.

[@HardHardMaster]

@Rambo so?

[@messiaspereira6232]

Joe Rogan is terrible,he deals with crackpots

[@dswynne]

"You don't know how to fight until you are fighting." - Hawkins Cheung, Wing Chun Master

[@dirksmith896]

Only a wingchun man could come out with such shit

[@dswynne]

@@dirksmith896 But it still applies to everything. You could train in MMA, and still LOSE a fight. Why? There is a difference between "the ring" and "the streets".

[@dirksmith896]

@@dswynne duh... I teach 3 styles including mma and street defence and I've had endless street fights.. Too many to count.. So its very hard to listen to noobs in fighting telling me about fighting lol

[@dswynne]

@@dirksmith896 I glad we are in agreement, then.

[@triumphant39]

@@dirksmith896 It would be easy to look at your claims with skepticism (and I do), but assuming that you are not lying, should we ask ourselves WHY you get into or have gotten into so many street fights? Perhaps it would be more of a common occurrence in one's childhood, but assuming you learned martial arts as an adult... why would an adult go around getting into "endless" street fights? Heh...

[@truthguy7577]

The irony of Bruce Lee is baffling. Here's a guy whose intention was to prove that real martial arts came from being honest with oneself and working hard. That real combat was disorganized and unpredictable, so one must prepare for all aspects of it. And yet, his movies spawned an industry that all but destroyed the honesty of martial arts, so that eventually everyone believed fake martial arts were real. Worse still, people began to worship Bruce Lee like a god who is above all other martial artists, even though the man never even fought anyone of note. Oh, the irony...

[@EsotericOccultist]

And who's fault is that? Bruce's or the idiots that believe everything they see in a movie?

[@williampalminteri1727]

Let's face it.... With Lee's ego, if he actually won the fight with Wong, we'd never hear the end of it.

[@Apedrape]

I'll take Chuck Norris's word for it when it comes to Bruce Lee.

[@frasersummers3801]

Whether he was shit or watever..its wat he did for martial arts thats counrlted all these years..he made it more mainstream..thats why hes idolised I think

[@williampalminteri1727]

@@frasersummers3801 Lee put "beatdowns" on the map, not TRUE martial arts. That's why Wong fought Lee, to give him humility. Lee never 'got' it.

[@jamesdotson599]

I was in Bruce's school then and he told the fight just as Linda did. He also laughed about it a lot because he thought that it was ridiculous. He had to chase Wong a lot until he threw him down. He thought it funny that he got so winded. I don't think it was anywhere near his first fight since he liked to street fight and also matched against Choy Lai Fut in Hong Kong. He also had an amateur boxing match there against a local high school champ where he prevailed. He learned a lot against Wong and sought to improve his stamina and diversify his skill mainly by studying boxing after their fight.

[@johngault7329]

.. man, start your own channel. People would love to hear more about him..

[@alexscott730]

@@johngault7329 He won't because he's full of shit.

[@douglasrose6660]

Sorry bro you're a fucking pussy,Bruce Lee would fucking destroy you, and stop talking like you're a master ,where's your win loss record

[@HardHardMaster]

@@douglasrose6660 where's Lee's?

[@dsdsc7888]

Hi bra tbruce beat him easy but ring away of fighting and hi fo-ow hhim and give some punch his back and put wong in graund

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I also read that when the fight with Bruce and wong started, bruce attacked aggressively and it took wong off guard assuming they'd stand off first. with bruce swinging attacks wildly, wong was forced backwards and then as you stated ended up in the ground. bruce was also disappointed not just with the martial arts abilities, but with the amount of energy he had to use just to try. it was a while ago that I read this, but that's not something you easily forget. at least not if you're a bruce fan and a martial artist.

[@guillaumenoname9709]

I like the "Bruce attacked aggressivly"... Like they were playing chess or what ? The Wong's version if a full bullshit version. It was a ruleless and all out fight and Wong didn't have any clue about what he was doing and his version confirmed that he didn't know what was a real fight.

[@roykilling2496]

I would take anything said by the Bruce Lee cult, Linda Lee, Beerdy and the rest with a grain of salt. Bruce was never a great fighter, even in his prime, after bestowing JKD, inventing MMA from whole cloth and gracing the world with his godliness. If someone as insignificant as me knows a couple occasions wherein Bruce met more than his match, I'm sure MANY other people do, as well.

[@stevo62ful]

@@guillaumenoname9709 So Bruce fought a nobody then ! In his only proven fight, this "fighting god" fought a nobody.

[@xyon9090]

*Very well said.* You are quite knowledeable with the Philosophy Bruce Lee made. If only many other people understand it too.

[@joeygonzo]

There are so many versions of the fight. One was Linda was not allowed to watch the fight because SHE WAS PREGNANT. In the book, Bruce Lee The Fighting Spirit, it was theorized that they actually ended too exhausted to fight b/c they ended on the ground and wrestled way too long. But, whatever happened, Lee was sorely disappointed at the result. He retooled and started to jog for cardio.

[@EsotericOccultist]

Since when can't pregnant women watch fights? That literally makes no sense. I've seen pregnant wives of ufc fighters cheering their husbands on many times. Nothing bad happens as a result.

[@ninjanizzle]

+EsotericOccultist its not so much that she wasnt allowed, but that bruce wanted to make sure she was safe. george lee said he waited outside the room with her while the fight went on. george also had a handgun just in case things went south. if bruce had a man with a gun out back he definitely didnt let her stand and watch the fight in the same room. the wives/gfs of ufc fighters cheer from OUTSIDE the cage, where theyre safe from harm. that is the same as bruce making sure she was in a safe place outside the room of the fight. the room wasnt that big and they didnt fight in a boxing ring. even the witnesses had to move out the way during the fight. thats definitely no place for a pregnant woman, especially if u dont trust or even know the multiple ppl who came to watch.

[@larhannstuckey865]

Jack Ridg

[@jerry171460]

If Bruce won the fight so easily, why did he change his style of fighting? Jack Man Wong went to work the next day! Bruce didn't hurt him. Bruce realized his Wing Chun was limited to only certain situation, so he started picking up different type of marital arts.

[@rjgn4054]

@@jerry171460 From what I remember in the bios and interviews it was because he didn't beat him quick enough because Bruce thought he was way better but it took him longer than expected using wing chun (about 3 min still quick though) so he knew he needed to learn more.

[@MrRafalee]

Again, I appreciate your humility and humor. I was also a “ bouncer “ for 5 years. When I was working at the Club, it didn’t matter how many “ fighters “were there. You can only fight sim any people. I specifically someone with a shank or blade. I do like the idea of placing a person in front of you so that everyone else has to fight to get to you. They should be climbing all over each other, etc..

[@MrRafalee]

The enemy, of course. My typing is terrible.

[@funkyboodah]

you had me at "a real fight is the pursuit of truth"

[@WCtrainer1]

That is exactly the idea within wing Chun. It is not a style nor an art, but rather an idea/approach to actual fighting that is open ended and allows for revisions and additions in order to strengthen the weaknesses in your fighting.

[@Antraeus]

But the epiphany was NOT the result of this being his first real fight. The epiphany was the mature realisation that he hadn't won as fast as he had anticipated. And that is why he developed a new style. Jesus. Fighting gangs with weapons and chains in the streets of Hong Kong is more 'real' than a match! Somebody here says Bruce wasn't an athlete. lol. He lived and breathed kung fu and moved faster than most people blink. Nobody could touch him. And he could punch and kick someone before they're had a chance to move.

[@bertt1055]

Interesting video. Just to share - the amateur boxing fight wasn't just from Bruce. Actual eyewitnesses from that day had actually come forward with their own accounts. Next, on the wong jack man fight, this man, David Chin, who actually caused the fight to happen, and have for many years insisted in the fantastical version, have actually come forward in recent years to admit that Bruce's version was the truth, and wong's crew had lied due to ego.

[@RamseyDewey]

+lucidmist thanks for the insight!

[@bertt1055]

Written by an a real journalist in San Francisco. Read the article - David Chin admitted that the fight was closer to what Bruce's camp told. fightland.vice.com/blog/bruce-lee-vs-wong-jack-man-fact-fiction-and-the-birth-of-the-dragon

[@bertt1055]

Regarding the amateur fight, I will need to look for the article again. It was an interview - an actual British student attending the school where Bruce took part in the boxing match saw the entire fight and gave his account of how Bruce won.

[@bertt1055]

Ramsey Dewey Most welcome.

[@j.c.mhardcoremetalfan413]

lucidmist thank you for doing your homework and not letting hatter's or people who are just not fans let others fill their heads with what they want them to believe.remember most talked a lot about Lee after he died.thst says alot right there and most stories change all most everytime they talk about it (Vic Moore) .Bruce fought before he beat Jackman and fought alot.i believe the ones who are tough band known for it tell how good Lee was not let their egos say different like Joe Lewis said Lee was the fastest and hardest puncher he ever seen that's big coming from him

[@MysticNinjaJay]

I get what you are saying about the Wong Jack Man fight being significant because Bruce Lee learned the limitations of Wing Chun but if he had fights before this it was not his real fight. A fight is a fight and your first is your first. I have no idea how many fights Bruce Lee had. I've read all of the stories I could. There are the rooftop fights, fights with gangsters in Hong Kong, winning a Boxing tournament where he fought about 3 opponents and Gary Elms the defending champion, the fight with Yoichi Nakachi a Karate Black Belt who Bruce Lee fought on a YMCA handball court in Seattle. Then there is the Wong Jack Man fight and after that I heard stories of Bruce Lee getting in a few street fights in bars hanging out with Skipper Mullins, fighting stuntmen on the sets of movies, fighting at least one amateur Boxer and I even heard of him fighting a Muay Thai practitioner as well as full-contact sparring with Karate world champions. None of this is on video. I find it curious that Bruce Lee supposedly fought extras on the sets of movies but there is no video of this despite many cameras being around. Bob Wall said one of the guys he fought was good but how do we know that? We don't know his name. He have no evidence he won any Martial Arts tournaments or had street fighting experience. How do we know he was good? Jackie Chan was a stuntman in Enter the Dragon and Bruce Lee accidentally punched him in the nose. He went on to be a superstar and he was very fit in his prime so maybe the stuntman Bruce Lee beat up was in good shape and this impressed Bob Wall but fighting extras who are being paid to lose to you in a movie is not noteworthy. Louis Delgado said he was baffled by Bruce Lee in sparring and Jim Kelly said Bruce Lee was the Michael Jordan of sparring. James Demile said Bruce Lee could beat everyone he trained with and they didn't stand a chance. Martial Artists who were his friends said good things about Bruce Lee but he never proved himself in a recorded fight. I'm sure he had several fights. The Wong Jack Man fight is just the one most talked about. I get the point about street fighters not being trained fighters. Well that is not entirely true. Most of them are not professional fighters although several professional fighters have been in real fights. Mike Tyson knocked out Mitch Green in a street fight after they fought in Boxing. Many Mixed Martial Artists have been in street fights that ended up in the news including Roger Huerta, Alistair Overeem, Renzo Gracie, Bj Penn, Tito Ortiz, Chuck Liddell, Nick Diaz, Jon Jones and Conor McGregor. There is video of some of these fights. But generally most street fighters are not professionals. Many street fighters are not even trained fighters. But street fights are real fights. They are fights between real people with no rules. Boxing is a sport and so is Mixed Martial Arts as is Kickboxing and all the other combat sports. They are sports with trained fighters who fight for money. They are the best fighters in the world because they train at the highest level. The guys who are ranked in the Top 10 and the champions would clean the clock of anyone who doesn't train or doesn't fight world class competition. Your first fight is your first fight though. I had my first fight when I was 8 years old. No one can tell me that wasn't a real fight. I knocked the kid unconscious. I learned more about real fighting over the course of my life but my fights are limited to grade school. I haven't gotten in to a street fight yet. Wong Jack Man was not Bruce Lee's first opponent in his life or even in America. He was just the guy who showed Bruce Lee that there were serious flaws in his style and inspired him to become a better Martial Artist. For the record Bruce Lee didn't have any respect for Wong Jack Man. The movie Birth of the Dragon is heavily based on Rick Wing's book Showdown in Oakland. Bruce Lee told Black Belt Magazine that he beat Wong Jack Man easily and said the Kung Fu cat ran away from him so he had to chase him down but that he bruised his hands hitting the back of his head and his back. Bruce Lee did admit to being tired and his hands hurt but he said he won and made him verbally submit. He also called Wong Jack Man a bullshit artist in a phone call which is on KZbin. Bruce Lee told Jesee Glover that when he found out Wong Jack Man told a newspaper he lost the fight he demanded the editor print a retraction went to Jackson Cafe where Wong Jack Man worked as a waiter and when Wong Jack Man saw him he spilled the tea he was pouring ran and hid in the kitchen. Bruce Lee also apparently told Linda Lee Cadwell that the fight was over Bruce Lee's right to teach Caucasians and other Westerners Kung Fu because the Chinese masters in San Francisco did not like that Bruce Lee's school was open to anybody. They only wanted to teach Chinese so their Martial Arts didn't get abused and used on them by their enemies. This is what was depicted in the movie Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story. Personally I think Rick Wing did a good job of refuting this claim as Wong Jack Man had White students at his school, there is no evidence the claim is true and multiple accounts say Wong Jack Man was answering a challenge Bruce Lee made at the Sun Sing Theater to anyone in Chinatown who thought he could beat him. The story has a lot of rumor and myth surrounding it. This fight probably wasn't even a good fight. Bruce Lee's brother said Bruce Lee lost a fight when he was 12 years old so he did lose at least one fight in his life and we don't know how many he won but none in my opinion are noteworthy.

[@kpllc4209]

For a trained fighter only fights with other trained fighter have any significance.

[@heli0s2003]

For whatever this is worth, I read somewhere along time ago that during the fight, Bruce was trying to gouge out Jack's eyes and doing some other lethal techniques. I dont remember where I read it, and it's neither here nor there, but it painted Bruce in a darker, dirtier light, as if he were fighting to the death. The story stuck with me, true or not. Anyways, Btw Ramsey, you're voice is really cool. You could seriously get some work doing voiceovers on some animes or something, seriously. And I loved this video.

[@tbishop4961]

Correct. Both Linda Lee and David chin have given account of the fight. Both identical (and chin was there w Wong jack man) Side note.. david chin trains some bad ass fighters

[@Gilmaris]

Wong Jack Man never gave a version of the story himself. The "Wong was awesome" story came from another witness to the fight (probably a student of his). Wong himself, however, refused to comment even after Bruce's death.

[@terhazza]

Not true, he did reply in a local newspaper and said that he would like any potential future fight to be public.

[@guillaumenoname9709]

Not true. Wong gave his fancy version of the fight and then he said he won't talk about it anymore.

[@tunghoilam2666]

8:50 suppose Brian had no background in Muay Thai or jujitsu, in the ring , he would have been slaughtered. His wing chun cannot save him, but wing chun snobs would have been hard on him saying that " his technique was not correct, he should've done this and he should've done that , and he's not true wing chun guy " etc. So sad.

[@RamseyDewey]

Most likely! And Brian’s wing chun is better than anyone I know.

[@varanid9]

Ever notice how, basically, Wing Chun and Muay Thai has similar principles in terms of how they cover the body, as well as use of body weapons?

[@fightingfisherman9690]

varanid9 no they don’t, 😂 I am Muay Thai fighter and trainer, we actually fight to see if it works, Muay Thai use boxing with elbows, and clinching, we spar a lot, fight other gyms, wing chun don’t spar properly or fight or test there skill, big difference,

[@rgreigjazzguitar]

@@fightingfisherman9690 It's a fair point that wing chun could test their techniques more in a sparring situation. The only problem though is that it's hard to practice throat strike, eye strikes and chain punches to the center of the face without getting hurt. While certain Wing Chun techniques are hard to use in the ring (such as the tan sao) the principle are quite effective (such as centerline theory and the placement of the elbow when striking and how you intercept punches by blending your defense with an attack). Wing chun just has to be tailored for the ring in which it doesn't look like traditional wing chun. Sifu Francis Fong is a great example on how to adapt Wing Chun to MMA. His wing chun is more modern and his school teaches MMA alongside the Wing Chun.

[@fightingfisherman9690]

Richard Greig sorry dude I don’t think the problem is throat punches. Eye poke. Do know how hard it to land a jab. I Don’t mean ring fighting I mean in general. In cage with MMA gloves on. And centre line theory. I fighter and never heard that. It’s called angles. I have had Muay Thai fights with MMA gloves on. It’s harder to land jab without big gloves the range is different. Wing Chun I never seen them properly spar. So how going be good at actually hitting any one. It’s hard land jab let alone eye pokes. We clinch what elbows pads on and actually scarp in clinching to make it real. So works in cage in ring or in street makes no difference.

[@gothkrix]

I have been watching your videos for a while, and it's quite common for you to take the subject of the video and then follow with quite an amount of knowledge afterwards, which is great. I think this is actually what is making you one of my favourite content creators on youtube, regarding martial arts, because you actually go in depth about certain aspects, you explain things well and when possible you even give real examples. You do seem like a very knowledgeable/wise guy, so thank you for providing this knowledge, I'm absorbing that stuff like a sponge.

[@Chief2Moon]

You sir are exceptionally&impressively articulate & philosophical. Hopefully you're aware of these gifts....I assure you your listeners recognize it in you. Well Done, as always.

[@jerryavalos9610]

I was into martial arts back in the 1970's and practicing Wing Chun. This gave me the chance to talk to many Chinese from different schools and I had varied opinions about Bruce Lee and Wong Jack Man. Its amazing that the fight took place in front of many witnesses and there have been varied accounts of what happened. The opinion of Bruce Lee was also mixed. Bottom line it wasn't the style, but the person and Bruce looked into himself and saw deficiency's in himself.

[@vaibhavgurung5585]

Despite all the myths going on about Bruce lee, I really believe he was just an ordinary guy like us who learnt his lessons from making mistakes. What makes him immortal is the fact that he was the man who first popularised the reality of martial arts and and real fights, as majority of martial artists in his time were delusional n were spreading there delusion on to others. Bruce lee showed us the way. His movie ‘game of death’ was a masterpiece! Bruce was the man who got the much deserved honour to the profession of stunt performers. He was a great athlete, a philosopher with a degree, a stuntman, an actor, author of best selling books, true martial arts instructor, and what not. He broke the racial stereotypes about Asians in Hollywood n made way for other Asian actors and martial artists. He fought against his own people to teach non-Chinese. He achieved all this at the mere age of 32. These are the qualities we should remember and respect him for! Not some street fight records. Thanks for the great video Ramsey! 👏🏻

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

Bruce was a great fighter. Yes human but he was not normal.

[@pafoneto1275]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 Acording to what?

[@redeyejedi3753]

I am a Master Framer/Carpenter. It took over 20 years of constant learning and applying. What I learned the most, is that, how you do anything is how you everything. My mastery has shown me "a path", not "the path" to all things... I tie my boots with as much flow and consistency as I build. I am not flowing water, I am the molecules that float in and out of everything, I am all form and no form. I do not become the shape of the tea pot, but become it, and the table it rest upon and all that surround it.

[@funkyboodah]

"who are the wicked? they are those who deceive themselves"

[@thememaster7]

Why is selflessness a good thing?

[@qsviewsrpgs4571]

I just learned of your videos a few days or so ago and I've got to say, these are great! Going back to watch some of your older videos is very eye-opening. Great stuff!

[@leftbumper4548]

"What worked was adapting to the situation..." I need to keep this in mind.

[@vesuvius2444]

It's amazing to think that Bruce Lee got in trouble for teaching foreigners martial arts in America. And now you are living in China teaching MMA. Things have definitely changed. It's also cool how Bruce Lee realized that Wing Chun wasn't enough and went on his own quest to pursue the truth about fighting. Considering he did this before UFC where there became a testing ground to test and polish fighting styles. Bruce Lee was definitely ahead of his time. The Tao of Jeet Kune Do is definitely an interesting read. Lot's of his philosophy is sound and he also has tons of diagrams he drew himself about different fighting styles and techniques from multiple martial arts. Including many of the ones that do well in MMA.

[@cuzz63]

That is a myth, several of the Kung Fu schools in Oakland were already teaching westerners. This myth came about because of a movie.

[@michaelquebec6653]

Agreeing with cuzz63. Also, martial arts author Robert W. Smith had learned Chinese martial arts in Taiwan in the 1950's and World War Two era military hand to hand combat instructor William E. Fairburn had learned Chinese martial arts in Shanghai. It sounds "better" from the Bruce Lee camp to say "Bruce Lee was challenged because he was opposing bigotry", as opposed to "Bruce Lee was challenged because he insulted the San Francisco Chinese martial arts community on stage at The Sun Sing Theater in 1964 during a martial arts demo." Two sources are Rick Wing's and Charles Russo's books on the subject, as well as interviews from Leo Fong and the late Al Novak.

[@guillaumenoname9709]

cuzz is right. Bruce just said that to his wife to hide the truth. The truth is : he was showing his technics and explaining in a very cocky way how traditionnal MA was not effecient in several theaters, eventually challenging people who disagreed. And then ... I don't say more but yeah, it wasn't about teaching to non Chinese people :)

[@kermit1211]

People have been mixing styles long before Lee was ever born. Try learning the history of other martial arts

[@gabrieldavis2795]

Just finding your videos and great job. These questions have plagued me about the MA for a long time. The move order and distancing among other things. The guy that taught me would go to TKD class and then come back and teach me. The instructor had been in and out of fights and taught all kinds of grappling and groin strikes. I went to a TKD class later and I didn't think they were teaching TKD because they weren't even punching straight or whatever. Keep up the good work. Btw my first real fight I got my ass kicked and a finger in my eye saving myself with a choke that had nothing to do with anything I ever learned.

[@nilzoom]

If even Bruce Lee, who was the greatest martial artist, has not survived, then we have the humility to accept other techniques, other martial arts, in any martial art there are techniques that do not work, yet we train for years on end. I conclude that we must unite and choose the best techniques and create something that really works, both for defense as well as personal growth. Sensei Nilton Yuzuki

[@stuartj1234]

You can only create what works for you. Something that works for me does not work for everybody. Take only what is usefull to you and disgard the rest.But learn it all then forget it all and move on to something else.

[@michaelhowze8198]

@@stuartj1234 Right Jeet Kun Do

[@j_ima]

Ironically enough I had a similar experience with JKD haha! I was lucky that it was just a failed demonstration for my friends and not a real fight. I was trying to demonstrate the “salute” block you can use to deflect an straight punch with a volunteer that didn’t know JKD. All he had to do to break my illusion was pull back his hand as I tried to deflect! At the time it was embarrassing, but now I can appreciate the experience as a brush with reality without having to get beat up.

[@العقابالمصري-ك2ن]

I want to ask you a question, what is the martial art that elderly or young middle-aged people can practice and help in self-defense in real combat .. And also those who have not practiced sports before

[@RamseyDewey]

Study self defense laws. Arm yourself accordingly.

[@HardHardMaster]

Judo and BJJ. Learn some punches and slips to add to it

[@العقابالمصري-ك2ن]

@@HardHardMaster thk BUT BJJ is Ground combat and does not fit in real combat

[@العقابالمصري-ك2ن]

@@RamseyDewey thk but How ?

[@HardHardMaster]

@@العقابالمصري-ك2ن not really, it has practical uses on the ground in real life as well as stand up uses. Actually, Gracie jiujitsu started as a selfdefense system, not a sport. They have plenty of stand up techniques for selfdefense as well. That being said, in BJJ gyms the overall focus is definitely on groundwork of course but part of it does translate into practical selfdefense skills. I also want to add that if you're talking about actual combat for children or elderly people, that that age factor alone already significantly diminishes your chances. Not just that, but training full contact could be too taxing, physically. Which is why striking styles would not be my first advice. If it would not be a factor, I would advise boxing and judo for starters, and if possible full contact karate and/or muay thai. Otherwise, keep training simple and safe and with minimal impact. Lastly, this advice depends on your particular environment as well. What Ramsey meant was: arm yourself according to what's Legal in your country. For the same reason I already mentioned, the age groups youmentioned are at a huge natural disadvantage already.

[@calvinmasters6159]

Ah well, Lee was a talented choreographer. He desperately wanted to be in films. Those glamor poses looked great.

[@CharlesDamianoBLC]

Calvin Bruce Lee was the greatest of all time! check out my Bruce Lee youtube channel if you are a fan of Bruce Lee! You will enjoy it! Best Charles

[@MechaJutaro]

Yeah. Those who continue to look to an actor for cues on self-defense in reality are tantamount to those who take advice on male-female relationships from content creators on KZbin, who've either been in unhappy marriages for decades, or who aren't themselves out there dating for themselves

[@RegisWilkins]

@@MechaJutaro Talking out your back side....again?

[@theoldcompare1141]

This video is so inspiring, not just the history or martial art lesson, but this whole concept about truth after the first fight is so true and happens in so many different ways in life. You're not just a good teacher but a very wise man.

[@rgreigjazzguitar]

This is a very good video. Mr. Dewey, I think you had lots of words of wisdom here. Thanks for not bashing wing chun or a style. It does have its place but it's not complete by itself. It needs to be adapted to the style of the opponent and it needs to be mixed with other styles to become more complete. I think it's safe to say no one style is complete and that effectively taking the strengths of different styles to fit the needs and body design of the individual is what it takes to be a complete martial artist. I've been studying JKD for four years now and this concept is the fundamental concept of Jeet Kune Do. It's not a fixed style, it's constantly evolving but with the underlying principles. Bruce Lee said, "Take what's useful. Reject what's useless". Wing chun is still a substantial part of JKD but so is western boxing and muay thai. Those seem to be at its foundation and then things like fencing, judo, jujitsu, wrestling, etc. are added on top of that foundation). Thank you for your thoughts. This was very interesting and informative.

[@NapoleonGelignite]

Wing Chun is a series of training methods not a style. There are holes that can be filled by using your brain - grappling, sparring etc. WC is focused on in fighting, which is great as you can keep a fight in that range more easily than longer distances, but not necessary, and clinches are very likely given a skilled opponent.

[@jimmccormack8479]

I love your info. I am 64 with a lot of injuries, Spinal fusions, missing achilles tendon, etc. So I have no illusions on what I am able to do. But, in spite of that, you help me a lot with your philosophy. And it really helps me with my training.

[@michaelnurge1652]

Just to throw this out there about "teaching westerners". I trained about a year with Sifu Jenner, who was one of Wong Jackman's students. Wong Jackman didn't have any problem with teaching non-Chinese, or Sifu wouldn't have studied with him obviously. What I learned there was some Xing I mostly, but there was also Ba Gua and some Shaolin, and some weapons stuff. I didn't get to weapons or full-contact sparring. Footwork from Xing I was very similar to footwork I did as a fencer, the striking was decent, but the grappling wasn't strong. It was fun and there are definitely worse places / teachers, but I didn't think it was worth $100-$200 / month, considering I live in a very expensive location and had a lot of overtime I was doing.

[@paulw1798]

Just discovered your channel mate. Great content. You also have a brilliant speaking voice and engaging delivery! You should do voiceovers. Like a young James Earl Jones! 👊🏼🇬🇧 nice one bruv!

[@martind2218]

My first street fight - I was an 11 year old Karate boy at the time, wasn't a high grade - I survived it but I still remember thinking wow this guys really good as he hit me from all these different angles. He must have been an armature boxer or did some training in boxing. So I thought I would try Wing Chun as the demonstrations looked fantastic. Its not easy to let go of a fantasy when you have invested so much time in it. I guess it all depends what you want to get out of your training. I don't practice traditional marital arts any more - I went more the Boxing and Wrestling route (MMA wasn't around back then) I still love martial arts. I'd enjoy doing Tai Chi one day - just probably wouldn't use too much of it if I was unfortunate enough to have a street fight. In my fight apart from boxing my head off he also picked up a lump of wood and started hitting me with it. You don't get that in the ring. If I was a young boy now - no question my core art would be MMA - But even MMA isn't specifically designed for a street fight it's designed for a ring fight and there are some differences. Multiple opponents, knives, no gloves ,etc, lumps of wood in my case. So I would train in whatever I needed to - but definitely MMA would be a very big part of it as it covers so much of what can happen in a fight. Big Bruce Lee fan here. Loved his movies - loved the way he was willing to see the truth and change.

[@rgreigjazzguitar]

I'd recommend looking into both Kali (Filipino Martial Arts) and Jeet Kune Do. They are very much philosophy driven and always evolving/improving. Guro Dan Inosanto and Sifu Francis Fong are great resources.

[@Christiaan1958]

Fantastic video Ramsey...you hitting right on the nail...thanks for your videos !

[@andalusianguitarist]

Everything your saying is true, case in point of an Elite Taekwondo practitioner in the cage is Yair Rodriguez he does some really crazy stuff that is taking other fighters by surprise and its based on Taekwondo yet he knows all the other techniques that you have mentioned.

[@makgeoff]

The fact is, Bruce Lee was the first to mix different martial arts & tried to use different techniques for the right situation and it was in the 70s!! He was way beyond his time & that's why many well acclaimed martial artists wanted to learn from him. His philosophy was well beyond martial arts & his time.

[@junodonatus4906]

No, the fact is that Bruce Lee solicited champions to come train under him so that he could get credibility as an instructor.

[@RandyT-sq8qo]

@@junodonatus4906 the fighters you mean is Joe Lewis. Chuck noirs Jim Kelly ect Benny the jet and they all said he was the faster then anyone they knew and there selfs and also Bruce helped all of them to get better if wasn't as good as they all said and helped them to improve on there skills they wouldn't have wasted there time

[@junodonatus4906]

@@RandyT-sq8qo Nothing can lie like words 😉

[@cuzz63]

@@RandyT-sq8qo Benny didnt train under Bruce.

[@MrCmon113]

No, he wasn't. There was even mixed martial art tournaments long before him. And he never entered any nor did he organize any.

[@nathanfelsch8636]

I think Lee would have won no matter what His style was. He was a special talent with mythically rare speed and beautiful style, not to mention a superb athlete. He would have been good at any sport.

[@DavidHughesKJN]

Ramsey, I agree with your overall points, but wanted to bring something to your attention that you are likely unaware of. In this video, you said that you believed that Linda’s account of that match was likely the most accurate. Apparently you are unaware that Dan Inosanto did an interview regarding that match in the early eighties book BRUCE LEE:THE UNTOLD STORY by Unique Publications. In that interview, Inosanto stated that “It would be charitable to call that fight a draw.” And by the context, he was obviously referring to it being charitable towards Lee. He further stated that Bruce had told him that “I was so tired that I couldn’t even hit him, Danny.” Once Linda came out with her fairy tale about the match, Dan Inosanto never said anything more about it, but this is what he said prior to her version coming out. He was actually talking about it from the perspective of why Bruce had become so focused on improving his physical conditioning because he had gassed so badly in that fight. I am not saying that I believe that the fight went on nearly as long as WJM and his witness said it did either, but given Dan’s original account, I do believe that it was more likely a draw and Lee gassed.

[@andreehobrak1425]

Having attended a series of seminars with Richard Bustillo. There was always a Q&A somewhere in the seminar. One time he said: "there are a lot of stories about Bruce. Most of them are not true."

[@jcc2917]

in order to practice his kicks, Lee had to use a 300-pound punching bag that could stand up to his power. "He was so strong, that he'd do his exercises on this bag, and then, if he went to one of the regular bags, he'd blow it away," remembered Richard Bustillo.

[@lloydwhite3198]

Great analysis! Just subscribed. Thank you.

[@pjtheory]

The fight with Wong Jack Man was hardly Bruce Lee's first real fight. When he was a teenager, his penchant for street fighting earned him the nickname "King Gorilla," and the legendary Yip Man stated that Lee was "fighting crazy." When Bruce returned to the United States in 1959, he immediately began to test himself in the streets of Seattle. His most famous pre-WJM real fight was with 2nd degree Karate Black Belt Yoichi Nakachi. This fight occurred at a local YMCA handball court and Lee students Jesse Glover and Ed Hart were in attendance. According to Glover, Bruce straight blasted Nakachi into a wall, and then kicked him in the face as he was falling to the floor. Glover stated that Nakachi's face was a bloody mess and that he was knocked unconscious.

[@lordoffaiyum9727]

He legit fought all the time. He was a troubles youth who fought so much he got into trouble. People can't seem to except that

[@cuzz63]

"His most famous pre-WJM real fight was with 2nd degree Karate Black Belt Yoichi Nakachi." Never confirmed, Yoichi denied it ever happened and claimed he was friends with Bruce. Also Yoichi was not a fighter but a Kata guy.

[@cuzz63]

@@lordoffaiyum9727 kid fights mean what?

[@cuzz63]

he left HK right after he became an adult...so these kid fights mean what?

[@bigtimes1]

MMA right now is starting to look more and more like old Lai Tai fights in China, gladiator fights in ancient Italy, etc. It is becoming more about "Do you understand how to use your martial art in a real fight? Have you actually used it in a fight? Do you understand the grappling aspect, striking aspect, etc of your art enough to use it properly?"

[@YangSword9x]

1:38 "what linda lee describe sounded like a real fight....the others description of the fight sounded like fantasy." Wong jack men vs Bruce lee 6:40 "real fight....like animal brawl...when they were clearly masters of their sport." 9:00 "try his win chun...prove....oppon kept moving outside his win chun range & kicking him....punching him in head...this beautiful delusion was breaking down..." 10:50 "started learning muay thai...adapting arts to situation/fight...in order to win...if he moves this way he'll be outside of range, so WE MUST learn this ...mixing martial arts to overcome situation/problem." Preach the truth brother...PREACH! "The wicked hates the truth" 18:40 "there comes a point in your life youre going to get punched in the face fiercely repeatedly....& if you have not trained for that specific moment, you're going to get punched into a bloody pulp into the ground. I think we need that epiphany moment in our life...in some aspect in our life....so we can chisel off all these pieces until all thats left is the truth....because thats how we triumph in the midst of chaos. Is by telling the truth."

[@peterberry5027]

Good work champ keep the videos coming , very funny informative and above all very practical thank you. cheers

[@alessandrocattaneo4810]

Honestly, i never believed that bullcrap of "mopped the floor with Wong Jack Man, but changed his entire style of life, fighting, training, because he didn't won FAST ENOUGH". Only a Lee fanatic (too many out there) would believe that. I'm glad people are slowing coming to reason. I even don't believe it was a "victory" nor a "loss": since there's so many different accounts of that fight (majority of wich handed down by Lee's supporters and wife, who had all the interest to build his myth), i tend to believe it was sort of a draw. Let's be honest, street fights aren't as clear cut by definition. And there's accounts of not being true the story of "challenged in order to teach westerners", since it's proven that many other kung fu schools did, including Jack Man's, and that probably it all started when Lee got into disagreement with the rest of chinese martial arts community as a whole. Sure, Lee changed his style, and invented modern hybrid martial arts with modern training and teaching method as a result of that, and that's commendable of him, and of his open-mindedness. That's exactly the reason we shouldn't be such fanboys and believe in Santa Claus.

[@levedia]

There too many accounts that Bruce Lee Mopped the floor with him and why would they make that up. When Fedor lost people knew it even Fedor fanatics. What your saying is out of your ass.

[@acoustic296]

because Bruce Lee is not Santa Claus. You talk stupid shit 😂

[@jundean5292]

Ramsey is judo better or ju jitsu if you had to pick only one due to limited time and the same question regarding picking between kickboxing and muay Thai please answer my question as I am confused about what to put my son in

[@HardHardMaster]

Judo and muay thai

[@elgaro]

"...until all it remains is the truth" thats something that resonates with me in various aspects. Fake learning methods i've paid for in order to avoid studying as i should in university. My own religion, it just didn't hold up to reality, it wasn't a good explanation for the world i see. In my country Argentina is happening to many of us, with politics and economics, we keep arguing about things the world have solve years ago. And also fake techniques in sports, martial arts, dieting and training in general. Behind all of that was things you said, that time invested, and that fear of confronting the truth. On top of that, there is my lazyness to change, to work hard, to put the time it takes. People don't know how much diference in time and effort there is between watching a video and actually mastering something. We should all test our beliefs.

[@darthkadra2437]

Ramsey, I've been looking up to you, training like you say every time at the end, I just want you to know that what you're doing does make a difference and I am grateful to you. You are a man. period.

[@hector665]

Everyone should think like Miyamoto Musashi when it comes to fighting or martial arts.

[@guitaraflamenco]

Great video. I am not a marital artist, but I can hear what you are saying and get glimpses of your experience.

[@joshuawilliford3743]

This video is awesome and i agree 100%

[@joshuawilliford3743]

John Yang i agree 100%

[@williampalminteri1727]

@John Yang In Taoist tradition, bragging is not done. Wong Jack Man knows what happened, and that's all that matters in Taoism.

[@Fla_Law_Dog]

@@williampalminteri1727 Um... the whole point of Wong Jack Man's challenge was to prohibit Bruce Lee from teaching non-Chinese. After the fight, Bruce continued to teach non-Chinese. There's your answer. Goodbye.

[@fredelin2580]

Sir, I greatly appreciate your wisdom. Everything you describe can be wrapped in two words : "Reality Check". As a professional pianist, I can assure you that every detail you bring up regarding the attitude of people who fantasize in their practice space applies equally to playing a musical instrument. No Music schools, no teachers prepare instrumentalists to the demands of the 'real' world. None. Sadly. I could illustrate infinitely. Suffice to say that the boy who was a 'star' at school playing flashy drums patterns gets quickly a tremendous shock when he steps on a real stage where he is expected to 'nail' his chart at first attempt - not in a semester - backing up an established entertainer. And I have seen egos and especially self-esteem go down the drain in one day. Schools (in the U.S. in particular) carefully entertain illusions, like the one you describe. And when it is time to deliver (...), especially as an accompanist, the lack of knowledge and preparation often lead to disastrous results. ---- One last word on Bruce Lee : what made him exceptional were the distinctions he made... and, as a result, the quests he conquered... And above all to me, he should be revered for his absolute mastery of Energy. His, and the one of his opponents.

[@sorinturle4599]

"A Real Chinese Kung Fu Master Fight 1953" , i think this is the old video you mentioned. After that fight with WJM, Lee started training like an athlete and mixing things like boxing, savate, fence footwork, more or less grappling he learned training with Wally Jay and Lebelle. Ironically a little bit, things that are, as some try to say, "just sports, not "real deadly martial arts" ", isn't? :)

[@LovinglyStonedProd]

Master Ramsey, Well Spoken and Lucid. Appreciate your Channel. Where did you grow up and go to high school? Aloha from Texas, Dr. Liam Stone, D.D., Ph.D., N.D.

[@RamseyDewey]

I grew up in a small town in Idaho.

[@LovinglyStonedProd]

Master Ramsey, Thank you for writing back. To me, growing up in a small town has it s pros and cons now that I am past the half a century mark in my life. I am grateful that I did, though I now am in a City, How do you like Shanghai? Aloha from Texas, Dr. Liam Stone, D.D., Ph.D., N.D.

[@GabrielUngacta]

Street fight is survival mode more than a fight.

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

@silent mental aporoach No he's pretty much got it.

[@tyleroldham4676]

@Spinning Back-Kick I wish all the guys who fought me In my life we're as inept and kind as the guys you're talking about.

[@tyleroldham4676]

@Spinning Back-Kick not really. Maybe that's why there's so much violence.

[@tyleroldham4676]

@Spinning Back-Kick whatever keep living your weak ass life thinking everyone's weak like you.

[@heretopissyouoff8439]

@@tyleroldham4676 and go ahead and keep thinking street fights are always to the death because buddy if it were there wouldn't be a fight a knife or gun be drawn

[@arnie1005]

I have been looking for your fights that you have had . Where can a person find those, not just all talk?

[@algula7009]

It's interesting to note that Bruce Lee was just 24 yrs old when he developed his own style.

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

it's interesting to note that Miyamoto Musashi killed his first man at the age of 16 years old in 1vs1 duel (surviving over 50 samurai duel to the death in his life), survived Japan's bloodiest samurai battle (Battle of Sekigahara) and later developed his Niten Ichi-ryū martial art and became an expert calligrapher, philosopher (example : be like water analogy in his Water book of the Book of the Five Rings) and writer (Go Rin No Sho for example).

[@suntzu7727]

@@THEREALZENFORCE He was actually 13.

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

@@suntzu7727 Bruce Lee was not 13 years old when he invented Jeet Kune Do. Bruce outlined the concept of Jeet Kune Do in 1965, he was around 25 years old at the time. Stop inventing claims that are false. You hurt Lee's image with such lies.

[@suntzu7727]

@@THEREALZENFORCE I'm talking about Miyamoto killing someone for the first time, you idiot. It wasn't at 16 it was at 13 or 12. I didn't say anything about Bruce Lee, nor do I care about Bruce Lee.

[@suntzu7727]

@@THEREALZENFORCE Well, it would be good if you had achieved proper grammar.

[@Hoireabard]

An excellent presentation of true philosophy and art. Thanks. As with all expressions of truth, those opposed to it will blindly strike out.

[@VictorDSMan]

You may be an experienced or perhaps even a superb fighter. But remember, humility is the mark of a true martial artist.

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

and truth is the mark of a true warrior

[@williampalminteri1727]

Bruce lacked humility. He was a very talented egotistical bully.

[@HardHardMaster]

You are an impressive and unique martial arts philosopher, Ramsey. I'd like to visit you in Shanghai some time if possible.

[@aguywhowatchesthings7514]

I know the real reason why Wong and Lee fought. If we ever hook up via cell or email or chat or video, I’ll tell you the story. The reality isn’t as impressive. I’m a fan of your show.

[@8Pabs8]

That was awesome man, beautiful and true. You've gotten far in your path.

[@antonioridah172]

Bruce Lee was the real deal he always was learning about self,life and off others plus he had love for all people regardless the race or color. Folks say Bruce must loss cause he change his ways but I feel he won like I did in a fight just knowing boxing but hit the ground and I barely won the fight because I got dude off me but he got alot off then we got back up to are feet my boxing took over but I realise I needed to work on myself so I study wrestling, grappling etc knowing I was limited so I say this because Bruce realise the Same thing and step his game up cause it was to close for comfort I believe this fight was a blessing for Bruce Lee because thanks to Wong it made Bruce seek within himself to pull out the true master in his spirit 100salute to both warriors rip Dragon Lee

[@andrewlinesjah4538]

Listen Mate You mention people and colour HOW'S africa doing ? HOW'S europe doing ? america ? colour ? Take crime statistics according to race ? I AM 100% PROUDLY MORE WHITE I 100% SUPPORT THE UNAMENDED CASTLE DOCTRINE I 100% SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY go live in chicago under sodom and gomorrah and kick up to her go live in sodom and gomorrah drug infested luciferfornia go be WHITE ON A FARM in south africa DON'T TELL ME ABOUT BRUCE LEE AND COLOUR the term brother to black people is a racist term to exclude WHITE PEOPLE due to anti WHITE satanic spew I AM 🔥 A god CHRIST IS THE LORD 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mattharrington2637]

I wish I could get the ponderous stare off into the distance halfway through a sentence that you do!!! I’m no kind of fighter but love listening to what you say.

[@robertsutherland6162]

My TaeKwonDo instructor was an ROK officer, and a 5th degree bb, he was without body fat, pumped iron, very tough, and used to go around challenging practitioners of other styles. He absolutely despised karate and kung fu. One kempo guy locked himself in his club, petrified. But a guy who owned a Chinese restaurant engaged him, supposedly, and dropped him with a groin strike ducking a high roundhouse kick.

[@Mturner450]

Your wisdom is very valuable. I'd like to be trained by you if you were in the U.S.

[@paulpolpiboon9535]

@00:11 "the wicked are those who deceive themselves" Bruce Lee's preaching- "Always Honestly Expressing yourself. Not lying to one self, but to express yourself honestly". @4:12 "WJM was his first fight" That is INcorrect. He had fought a Master Black Belt in Karate and Judo in 1960 in Seattle WA at a YMCA racquetball court, with Ed Hart as witness and Jesse Glover as the timer. (Muscle+Fitness April 23, 2012, pg. 104) This has been on record many times, on many publications. @6:01 "Lees first real fight was WJM" Is wrong as already stated above, in addition to fighting many others such as Gary Elms, a 3x champion fighter, in a REAL fight on the STREET for a time and location both had agreed on (after their bout in the ring). This is published by his own FAMILY in the book "Memoirs of a Dragon". Your opinion is of course your freedom, however opinion doesn't count here in a matter of Fact. There are many other fighters of experienced caliber that Lee had defeated upon coming to America prior to WJM. If you would do the proper research before making a video statement you'd see that he had lead quite a violent life, his very brief film work is entirely based on his own personal and frequent life experiences. So the title of your video is wrong by fact, but his duel with WJM did open his eyes to realizing that Brain/Technique/Knowledge/Method was not at all sufficient enough to bypass physical ability. He learned that if he met a challenge, it would also be a challenge that included meeting his physical limits, so he now heightened his strength and stamina beyond the necessary minimum. His error was to focus and depend upon a reliable segment ( his techniques/methods) so as to waive and bypass other segments of reality (maximum fitness), but he recognized there is no effective segment. He must be complete...in ALL existing segments. btw would you have any youtube vids of yourself in a fight or at least sparring?

[@arielrueda7258]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gImceaZueJ6nd8U chill technical sparring

[@Hans-nr4im]

Which martial art should you pick, if you don't ever see yourself doing flying/spinning/crazy ass kicks that requires a high level of athletism?

[@pomponi0]

Wasn't this the same process that Musashi Miyamoto went through?

[@hamstrungharry259]

Musashi Miyamoto had been battling and killing people since he was a boy. It's kind of the opposite.

[@stuartj1234]

In a way yes very very similar. Musashi was a facinating guy....also a pretty crazy scary dude by the looks of things. But he too had incredible gifts in his chosen form of combat. Fighting with two swords was almost un heard of untill he showed up. allegedly his favourite weapon was the bokken or wooden sword.........how mental is that ? Hey you man with that sword wanna fight me ?..........ill use my stick!! Fucking mental.

[@kelvendyson1508]

Mr. Dewey you are without a doubt the most intellectual speaker to talk on this subject!! You speak on it right down the line!!! You could shut up a lot of people on the Internet that have gotten this wrong!

[@winfieldjayjr1755]

Bruce Lee was an actor at best. Might have been good at self defense. Everything else is he said she said. He worked out hard. Just because we know kungfu don't make us good fighters.

[@aidan9876]

great videos and philosophy. do you think better sparing would enhance wing chin?

[@RamseyDewey]

Yes it would

[@rebar33]

The story doesnt make sende. I am suppose to believe that Bruce Lee won this fight so easily that he changed his whole style of fighting and training because it took 2-3min. Makes no sense unless he lost or couldnt win.

[@RamseyDewey]

+rebar33 that's the thing: it wasn't easy. The fight didn't play out in real life the way it did in his mind. His wing chun didn't work, he became exhausted quickly, and the fight turned into a very amateur school yard scrap on the ground. Mr. Lee realized that luck was the only reason he "won". He realized his martial art was garbage. He realized that he was weak and unathletic. And he realized that he needed to change those things if he wanted reality to resemble the picture of fighting he had in his mind. An arrogant person would have simply taken the win as proof of his own prowess. The fact that Lee took the honest approach to confronting his own weakness speaks volumes about his character.

[@joelhusbands3838]

rebar33 lee was a wing Chun practitioner yet according to him his hands got swollen from punching Wong jack man. A Wing Chun practitioner who probably hits a Mook Jang all the time . Then the guy in the video goes on to say that a street fight is not a real fight. That Brazilian mixed martial artist who got knocked out @ a gas station after inappropriately touching up a chic basically got beaten in a fake fight because the guys who bashed him posts and stomped him were not trained fighters.

[@rebar33]

joel husbands Just look at this objectively. I for one am a bruce lee fan when young until now. To completely change your fighting and training after such an easy win just doesnt make sense. The swollen hand thing isnt true in that the opponent only had a scratch from an eye gouge attempt that was seen the next day and verified. The only thing that would make sende is if after the fight this is when Bruce started running marathons since his endurance was so bad. Remember Lindas account, they are fighting and then Won starts literally running away like a B. Bruce mounts him and says do you submit? Do you submit? Fighters dont ask fighters this question in any fighting discpline. And since this fight was suposedly to send a message no way Bruce would give mercy. You either get knocked out, choked out or tap out. Boxers and fighters only change training after a loss or a very difficult win. Lindas story is that bruce won with ease. Impossible to change training after an easy win over who was a chinese known true master. In discussions like this It is probably hard to change your opinion with logic. I had an argument with a trumo supporter who said Trump never said Mexico would pay for the wall. After I showed him one of Trumps many campaign speeches in youtube the person said it must be fake created by fake news. The point of that story is think about the human angle. It takes a dramatic event to completely change ones lifestyle which he did. He didnt win based on logic. Either lost or a draw.

[@SunWukong4]

Wong Jak Man didn't win because he never talks to anyone about the fight and doesn't want to tell his students about his techniques he used to beat Bruce. Wongs side said the fight went on for 20 minutes with him on the defensive which is not possible for a stand up fight. Bruce was more out for ending the fight quickly which he was disappointed he didn't end it faster than he should've.Conditioning your hands doesn't guarantee that pounding your opponents head repeatedly won't end up with bruises on the knuckles.

[@littledragon8966]

At the end we must ask ourselves these questions: Which of the two closed down their school and left?? Which of the two changed their styles and took up learning different styles?

[@LowDoughTech]

I don't know anything about fighting, but it seems to me that if a 'street fight' lasts for 20 minutes, neither person involved knows how to fight.

[@glennr2358]

what a load of crap

[@RamseyDewey]

+Glenn Richards How so?

[@jupp9999]

Ramsey Dewey, it made perfectly good sense, that Glen Richards is just jealous..lol Great Video

[@scooterharris727]

Ramsey Dewey .. because this guy starts talking about how many fights Bruce Lee may or may not have had before coming to America.. yada yada blah blah..and this doof is full of sh#& and doesn't even know that Bruce was an American.. born in San Francisco !

[@glennr2358]

It's crap because its hypothesising about something some guy may or may not have done forty years plus ago. Honestly, just move on from Bruce

[@darynjackson5732]

Scooter Harris yh but grew up in china from he was a baby...stop embarrassing yourself

[@jtetrfs5367]

I really enjoyed this video. It is a clear exposition by someone who has clear opinions--and sound reasons for those opinions.

[@fabiz8602]

As an aikidoka I really like what Rick Ellis was doing with incorporating aikido in an functional way. My goal too is to being able to use my aikido in real fights. For this I am currently taking Kickboxing classes and will start with BJJ and maybe also Judo after I saved some more money😁😁

[@thedarksideoftheforce6658]

His wife was there. He had a student with him also. Thank you for finally addressing the fact.

[@paulg6340]

Hi Ramsey, great video as always. Why do you think Wing Chun is not effective against trained fighters? Just curious on your thoughts seeing you have extensive experience and I my opinion a pretty unbiased view of things.

[@cuzz63]

Most people that are familiar with fighting will tell you that WC as a system doesnt work with trained fighters. There are parts of it that can be made to work but the system is too flawed the way its taught.

[@MrCmon113]

I don't think it works against untrained people either.

[@shanejarry1978]

I wish I had gotten involved in martial arts as a kid.

[@alir.9894]

Mr. Dewey, overall I really like to hear what you have to say. You're a very good speaker. An Intellectual's fighter. Thank you for your video's sir!

[@knottreel]

Why were traditional forms adhered to so dogmatically? If I understand correctly, weren't they developed for warfare? One would think that the early creators of these forms would see the flaw of being inflexible and actually test them against unconventional or real opponents.

[@nhatnamtrinh5017]

I'm Asian and I can tell you that everything traditional Asian is always confined by a strict philosophy. For example, traditional Asian music has only 5 notes, instead of 12 in western music, because the number 5 is somehow very important. So you see, it's not just about music. Same thing applies for traditional martial arts. It's not just about fighting; it's about fighting confined by other values deemed important in traditional times. As for warfare, it's about weapons, formations, tactics, discipline... You don't see Greek and Roman soldiers throwing uppercuts and roundhouse kicks despite their success.

[@kardeskalap2165]

Awesome stories, thank you very much!

[@nathanfelsch8636]

One thing the film did get right, which is the most important consequence of the battle, was that it made Lee evolve into something legendary. Hence, Birth of the Dragon

[@HomelessNinjaKennedy]

Some great wisdom in this video

[@anselmvantil7328]

Was this made before or after the louder with crowder video?

[@RamseyDewey]

I have no idea. What video?

[@anselmvantil7328]

@@RamseyDewey Louder with Crowder made a video called top 3 Bruce Lee myths. I noticed your video and his were made the same year, so I wondered if there was a reason why. But I'm guessing its the year the birth of a dragon came out?

[@RamseyDewey]

@@anselmvantil7328 I haven’t seen any of those. I made this video because someone asked me a question about it.

[@anselmvantil7328]

@@RamseyDewey that's cool just curious.

[@roybeckerman9253]

That’s why Bruce Lee, was a great fan of western boxing...unlike some martial arts exponents..

[@joshuamcewen214]

awesome video

[@ndrjskrbnk]

perfect! a great video! this is a real philosophy based on a personal experience. thank you for sharing your thoughts with broader audience.

[@boliussa]

this video is a good exercise in making a point in the longest time possible

[@RamseyDewey]

Hahahahaha!!!! Yeah, pretty much!

[@argon1611]

Tank you, Ramsey.

[@Chronicskillness]

Lee was in fact in the intramural boxing match at Catholic School St Francis Xavier's. But he wasn't a gang member or anything like that. Bruce Lee was a famous childhood actor son of a famous Chinese Opera singer-actor father Lee Hoi-chuen and wealthy socialite mother Grace Ho. Bruce was in 20 movies by 17.