I couldn't understand why this PC was so cheap... until I looked inside.

[@ChrisD__]

I didn't realize you moved your hands when you talk. XD

[@b.henriques9871]

ahhaah sam

[@naws69]

you could see them through his youtube plaque

[@MSTheDev]

Maybe he keeps it hidden to avoid this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKikmqKEZ9KnqaM

[@JT-ko2ib]

Yes, lol.

[@CaveyMoth]

It's starting to feel like Digital Foundry.

[@Jokkepappaification]

You look a bit red mate

[@Francisco-j1e]

Isnt he australian? They re red over there.

[@williewalrus]

F. Teixeira British, it’s been hot recently

[@Thatisnoneofmybusiness]

@@Francisco-j1e lol, he's from the UK, how could you mistake that accent for an aussie?

[@spicynugget5050]

@@Francisco-j1e Australian 😂bruhhhh

[@grindererrofficial3755]

@@spicynugget5050 fackmedeath how i also had him as australian O.o whats wrong with this world--

[@CaveyMoth]

You keep apologizing and saying that you made a terrible mistake. Come on, bro. It was just £21. We've all made much bigger mistakes.

[@WTFBOOMDOOM]

Like my parents 9 months before my birth?

[@MemesAndvids]

@@WTFBOOMDOOM like me when I decided to put kids in my attic 😀

[@ozmobozo]

Like the art school teacher in Germany

[@RichardJRussell]

I can beat all of you .... I bought the Fallout 76 Power Armour Edition. >_

[@harrison00xXx]

haha true my biggest mistake was a 700$ GPU nearly 2 decades ago, yes in 2004 there were already close to 1000$ customer/gaming grade graphics cards. Dont think this is a weird flex, I learned my lesson, never bought overpriced crap anymore. Thats why i am not allowed to buy a new PC anymore, CPUs overpriced(yes, also the so loved Ryzens....!), GPUs and RAM heavily overpriced. Whats finally getting "cheap" are SSDs, especially in 2,5" SATA versions. HDDs i also should boycott, they are so expensive, even if you are only looking for a 2-4TB 3,5"....

[@vehiclefreak409]

I'll never understand why they do this. Just put it in a smaller enclosure rather than blocking off holes on the case.

[@LarsMarvinTv2]

its cheaper than creating a whole new design. Just have one case design and put in dozens of configurations means that they only have to store one model and can build any system inside them. Saves a lot of money in storage and design.

[@tweakz_tech]

They don't understand what case design means.

[@danieledwards3376]

It's a USFF PC in a normal size case, for the worst of both worlds.

[@nathansomething4634]

You get significant price breaks when buying tons and tons of one design versus 1/3 of three designs, etc. This is called a price break; the more you order of one thing, the cheaper they give each one for. This is because they only have to configure their factory once to make the thing and can just let it run until the order is done, rather than shutting down, reconfiguring, and starting it back up. All of that stuff in between takes time, and factory time is money. The manufacturer will also have an MOQ, or Minimum Order Quantity. For big custom items like this case, they may have to order 10,000+ just to get the manufacturer to make any at all. To get around this, they'd just have the needed blanking/adapter plates made somewhere else (extremely cheap) and assemble.

[@juanpabloflores8179]

Economy of scale.

[@szab04]

It's all good, you still have the 8 gigs of ram and a 1tb hard drive. Still a good buy if you look at this components.

[@Doman2000]

yes, lot's of uses for this pc still, even you got the power adapter with it, so all is good.

[@rhyzon]

I'd swap the HDD for a 120 gig SSD and voila! Cheapo office PC.

[@odioalospoopers]

indeed. around here the average 1tb hdd is worth around thrice what you paid for that machine

[@amirpourghoureiyan1637]

Better as a Linux PC

[@batsonelectronics]

the drive is 7 years old though and likely near end of life. Here in the USA a new WD Blue 1 TB drive is $45 from Newegg with free shipping and 2 yr warranty.

[@theforthdoctor7872]

Your reflection during the hitman section almost gave me a heart attack.

[@neilwalker4575]

Me too. I thought some strange man was creeping up on me!

[@endame90]

​@@neilwalker4575 I didn't notice the reflection until I read your comment, now I can't get away my eyes from it

[@kagato82]

Same here. Thought I was about to get killed.

[@mohameduwaiskhan3367]

Bruh I'm supposed to be in online classes and I thought my dad walked into my room😂

[@DoctorX17]

Same!

[@CasualGamers]

Some OEM motherboards also have non-atx PSU connectors. That's a pain.

[@sgcs]

Boi this one is worse

[@mg86_]

at least you can get an adapter for those

[@bitelaserkhalif]

Add salt to wound with BTX motherboard

[@ImThico]

Não esperava um comentário seu aqui

[@mcslender2965]

@@sgcs Not really since adapters are readily available

[@DoomGuy9001-MK4]

If you have ever heard of a guy called Carey Holtzman, he did an in depth review on this and said some honest thoughts of what he thought of HP and their pre-built machines.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah love his videos, one of the people who inspired me to start :)

[@TheCircuitWizard]

@@RandomGaminginHD Could have been worse, Carey bought it brand new at the time for around $250 IIRC haha

[@trafficracer124]

I'm trying to find that video ur talking about, anyone got a link?

[@subbookkeeper]

Yeah even though his machine was much worse. It was some embedded cpu that had fraction of the old Pentium 2020 performance. I guess it might've been some Atom CPU.

[@detmer87]

Carey Holtzman is such a fool. Talks way too much jibberish. The most funny videos are the ones where he f*cked up and the next video he goes full defense (and how the world isn't round and so on...)

[@telgou]

Seller: 60fps guaranteed Hitman

[@phantomgunz1167]

Yeap, pLAyS MoDeRn WaRfAre on HiGh 144fps+++!!!

[@Deuteriumaddict]

@@phantomgunz1167 on 4k 3 monitors no sweat

[@wernerhaah5744]

* Hitman 2 Silent Assassin from 2002.

[@wishusknight3009]

When someone asks me how fast my car accelerates, I say "It does Zero to sixty"... And it takes a few seconds for people to get the joke.

[@Deuteriumaddict]

@@wishusknight3009 i still don't get it lol

[@VietNguyen-vj2np]

Fraps and Afterburner doesn't work because of the new csgo update that block third party program. You can still use net_graph console command to display FPS though.

[@gigibecali699]

The security feature can be turned off,so your comment is 0

[@Reecej23]

You saved a life today thank you.

[@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813]

Damn dude , why?

[@aoelp]

@@gigibecali699 Or you can just run the "opensorce" version or more realistically an older cracked one.

[@ugniusltu2968]

to disable the security feature type -untrusted in the lauch options in steam

[@theshield2004]

Someone got some sun this weekend!!!

[@darknight474]

sunburn

[@toumpanis]

Could it be high blood pressure because of his purchase?

[@mgf909]

I need to get some sun lmao

[@thealien_ali3382]

Someone penatrated him

[@Lagged2Death]

I thought I knew my way around PC hardware, but I've never seen or heard of a machine that was built this way. So you've taught me something today! Thank you!

[@ianweber9248]

Lagged2Death It’s called thin Mini ITX and, while I’m not sure if it was ever an “official” standard, enough companies made enough hardware (Asus has listings for thin mini itx mobos as recent as the H310 chipset) around it for it to be standard enough. I can’t say I’ve seen/heard of any with standard DIMM slots though, most of the ones I’m familiar with use SODIMMs since they mount flat against the board lowering the height (think PCs built into cases similar in size to standalone DVD players) of the overall system even further.

[@batsonelectronics]

I started seeing them around 2009 here in the USA, many all in one machines use an external power supply as well.

[@Peace_Maker]

you can do net_graph 1 in the CS:GO console to get the in game fps counter

[@Benjamin-ko1fg]

Or cl_showfps 1 for only framerate

[@Chickenjump]

Or you can enable it on Steam.

[@derickvo317]

Or just do all of it on top of MSI afterburner

[@Peace_Maker]

@@derickvo317 he said MSI afterburner wasn't working

[@huyduongquang1438]

@@derickvo317 csgo just launched its"trusted mode" so it denies any 3rd monitoring program, I recently got vac for using msi afterburner so well... net_graph 1 is the only way

[@andreasbartel3449]

I bought one like this, a Compaq, for my wife as an office PC. It worked fine, upgraded the RAM and later swapped the CPU to the I5-3470T, which is the maximum you can go. I replaced it with an Optiplex 7010; but I think if you put in a SSD, the I5-3470T and maximum RAM, which I think was 8GB you still get a decent office PC with low power consumption. And of course it runs on Windows 10.

[@sushimshah2896]

"Let's try & get some sort of joy out of this terrible situation" 2020-……

[@LSK2K]

The year actually started off good with the death of that Iranian guy but went to hell with the release of the virus.

[@czrptr6849]

@@LSK2K how can a death by a drone be good?

[@LSK2K]

@@czrptr6849 it killed him, that's how.

[@anthonyhandley446]

Can we stop saying the year sucks

[@Fireflyepic]

Also, never buy Dell Optiplex machines. Got a Dell Optiplex 360 back in the day. While it was a big case -- looked like full ATX -- it was designed in such a way that you could only put a single slot graphics card less than maybe 6 inches long in it. There was capacitors sticking out just behind the PCIe slot preventing longer cards, and it was outright lacking a PCI bracket knockout that would allow you to do double slot... be careful when buying these prebuilts. Make sure you Google pictures of their insides.

[@DanielCardei]

To be fair those PCs today people pay you to take it. They are absolutely limited but because of KZbinrs like you we can see that we can restore them and make them run basic or older games or even some older production software. BTW awesome video :D

[@harrison00xXx]

True, i got in end 2016 also a PC for free (from a friend, he said otherwise he throw Mainboard/CPU/Ram away xD) It was even a i5 4430/H87 Board and i think 8Gb slow Ram. This PC is with my older graphics card, a Radeon HD 6950 2GB still my 2nd, but actually more of a 3rd gaming rig/Multibox PC and didnt use it since over a year. As much i loved how "fast" the 4430 was compared to my older Phenom II X6, i still shot a cheap i7 4790k in an auction, found out the H87 Board dont like the 4790k (despite the fact it was in supported CPU list and Bios updated) and ended up with Z97 mainboard too and because of "pushing" the system to the limits also the best DDR3 ram aviable, so my 4790k easily beats a 7700k for cheap. If he wanted to throw away a Dualcore 2C/2T Pentium, i probably would let him throw away this useless piece of crap xD

[@guser436]

@@harrison00xXx wtf who throws away a 4th gen i5. I would kill for that processor rn

[@harrison00xXx]

@@guser436 people with too much money thinking this pc is trash xD

[@georgep8429]

0:19 "Guy who looked into Chernobyl reactor in that one scene", colorized -1986

[@naws69]

i like that he uses hand gestures. but we could only see them through the play button.

[@lepterfirefall]

Once you see it....you cant take your eyes off it!

[@akashjaiswar9437]

I really love this channel as it's the one which connects with me and he understands what some people can afford or not.

[@Mico605]

Type cl_showfps 1 in CSGOs console (activated on ~ if its enabled in settings), it will give you an FPS counter in game.

[@interstellartravel]

You can enable fps display in Steam settings as well.

[@rended]

For future benchmarks with CS:GO: The new anti-cheat Valve has in place makes it (in my experience) difficult to monitor system components using programs that use an external overlay. That being said, you can still enable a frame counter from the Steam settings while using the steam client in order of Steam>Settings>In-Game located in the top left of the client window.

[@KissesLoveKawaii]

dear diary. Today I watched a talking tomato talk about cheapo PC.

[@r3mus47]

Says the guy with an anime profile picture, you can't judge shit.

[@brady1863]

r3m us His face is red because it’s hot that’s why they said tomato, they’re not insulting his face.

[@VanRive]

Should have put some "jk" or something similar to reddit /s so some people doesn't get offended for other people or at least understand a joke.

[@lauragarza1554]

#Redlivesmatters

[@hokie333]

You missed it: "Today I watched a talking tomato talk about a potato."

[@morantaylor]

You could always drill the rivets on the ATX PSU blanking plate, then use mATX board with a standard PSU to reuse the case....

[@drumsmoker731]

Classic case of auction-bargain-fever. Never let your guard down 😁

[@1973Hog]

Thanks for the honesty. I too have purchased something too hastily and felt embarrassed. However; I have also purchased products that were incorrectly titled and got a deal. The most recent example was someone listing their RAM as 3000MHz when the pictures clearly showed it as 3600.

[@TheSilviu8x]

This is not an All in one, this is "None in one"

[@reik019]

It's so true that it almost hurts. Kind of the PC kit my father bought... The board has *ONLY* a white PCI slot, but the IGD is actually quite capable (a third part of an Radeon 7 rv3, more or less) Well, at least it has an actual PSU, so, bonus!

[@kekistanifreedomfighter4197]

I got an F-Greenwood ITX board with an AMD Kabani dual core APU that's pretty much exactly like that board. It was really only good for a linux box for tweaking & a dedicated KODI machine. Nice score for 8 gigs of ram & a full tower case.

[@daviidddx]

'Hello and welcome everyone, to another video. Now, the other day, I went outside....' I thought you were going to comment on the sunburn, keep up the content bro I love it!

[@bryndal36]

One of these came into the shop I used to work in last year and had never come across nor known they'd even existed before hand and I've been a techie for over 25 years. A customer had brought it in and asked what their options were for upgrading it. When I told them it's unable to be upgraded they ended up buying a new system from us instead. They left the machine with us as they had no need for it so I turned it into a retro emulation machine. It ran fairly well for most old retro consoles.

[@NoFeelings..]

Do you remember that scene from The Matrix when Neo’s mouth disappear? That’s how I felt when you showed back of that case 😂

[@juanpabloflores8179]

NoFeelings hahaha, trying to scream in horror, but you can't.

[@NoFeelings..]

Juan Pablo Flores That’s was exactly my reaction xd

[@Yantonio7]

the fact that you express yoself moving your hands its really nice, looks great to be honest, and its considered like a good thing when you talk in front of big audiences

[@jagdtigger]

If it has a wifi module you got your pci slot, just needs an adapter.....

[@akimbofurry2179]

realy?

[@TheTurnipKing]

Still not ideal. Noplace to mount the card since the mobo is at the bottom of the case and it may well be very pci lane limited. In addition mini pcie slots have a few different variations and I don't think all are suited to PCIe bus adaptors.

[@indask8]

I don't see one... I checked IPXSB-DM on google for a closeup, no mini PCI-E on sight edit : datasheet from hp, no mini PCI-E : support.hp.com/hr-en/document/c03036757

[@akimbofurry2179]

@@indask8 As a tech nerd, this coment section, and dedication fills my heart with glee.

[@jagdtigger]

@@TheTurnipKing Not ideal, but at least it would be better than the IGP..... ;D Plus adaptors arent that expensive so it worth a shot.

[@farawaythrower]

I used to have a system like this, and god, it was a piece of trash. I'm so glad I got rid of it.

[@1337kavin]

7:35 scared the shit outa me idk why

[@rdogg9900]

i literally just bought one of these from a thrift store 3 weeks ago for $7.99. I just wanted the 500gb HDD, but I was also curious about the lack of power supply on the back. it's a mini-itx board

[@kyles8524]

I would pay 20 dollars for this, it would make a good machine for emulation

[@lbsiuk]

There's one on eBay right now for £20.

[@pratikpramanik7782]

Just the AC adapter alone is worth $30. So actually a good buy to get an HDD plus RAM plus CPU. You can also get cases for these mobos that allow you to mount them to VESA mount monitors.

[@Dumb-Comment]

Omg the reflection just broke my "this dude doesn't move his hands while talking" image of you

[@BboyADHD]

YEP! This happened to my brother. He bought a prebuilt at bestbuy or somewhere for $500. AND IT WAS A LAPTOP in a case. I told him countless times that I would have built him a far better one etc. He has now since learned his lesson and asks me for help now lol.

[@mesterak]

If there’s a mini PCIeX1 slot on the board you might be able to use a mini PCIeX1 to PCIeX16 adapter to use a regular GPU with it. I’ve done this successfully on many ITX boards. Please note I’m not talking about the eGPU adapters for laptops that are rather expensive . The cheap $5-10 adapters work a treat, and you can connect power up to a molex or SATA power plug, too. I’ve found some boards will work with AMD GPUs but not NVidia GPUS or vice versa. Some boards won’t work at all, so you just have to give it a go to see what works.

[@ianweber9248]

mesterak Once support for it grows beyond AMD CPUs and GPUs, PCIe 4.0 will create some interesting possibilities here. At 4.0 speeds, the 4 lanes a typical M.2 slot provides has the same amount of bandwidth as 8 lanes of 3.0 or 16 lanes of 2.0, which is more than enough for midrange GPUs. M.2 is also a properly defined standard as well, so you shouldn’t have the same issues you got with MXM.

[@Ungabunga2015]

Hey! I had one of these as a kid! I got rid of it as soon as I really got into gaming on pc thankfully... I had the same ideas as you though until I opened it up and was significantly disappointed upon realizing there was no slot for a graphics card and figured upgrading it just wasn't worth it. I was able to play Halo CE (original) and Halo 2 on pc and some games like Zoo Tycoon and Roller Coaster Tycoon and other games that just played off a CD ROM. Good times...

[@alexmcd378]

Would have tripped me up too. Never seen a laptop board in a desktop form like that. Weird

[@iamfearitself1465]

I remember doing similar but it was an Lenovo with a A8-6410 with a PCI slot and a dreaded GT-720 2GB Now rocking a RyZen 3700x, 16gb ram, 1TB NVME 4.0 with a X570 board and RTX-2060 so not every beginning has a bad end. It's just use case at the time, when I had the mistake of a pc I was literally broke and had nothing that I could game on in the slightest.

[@ddevin]

Oh God, I did a similar thing in the past. I bought a cheap, standard looking desktop with intentions of upgrading it for server-like tasks. Turns out, it was basically a laptop slapped into a desktop case. A single 4 gig SODIMM DDR3L stick, and a SOLDERED Intel Celeron. At least I made use of the ram though, by upgrading my laptop from 4 gigs to 6 gigs.

[@ConfusedStu]

You still like you're having fun even after making a mistake, getting burned (in at least two senses of the word) and benchmarking a machine that forces you to drop to 800x600. Yet you still speak respectively of the machine and treat it with dignity. That's why I come back to your channel, bravo good sir.

[@MadIIMike]

When I come across such things, I usually downgrade to 4GB Ram and sell it as power efficient multimedia/office PC, at least here in Germany some people dig the idea of low power consumption on PCs... meanwhile me using old Dual Xeon Servers and GPU like the GTX 680. PS: Kinda unrelated, but I recently came across the dumbest Error I've ever encountered. The PC would sometimes restart or lag out during windows installation and I went trough all sort of troubleshooting regarding ram and so on. Guess what the culprit was? The (working) Power LED connected as part of the front panel connector was on it's way out or had some cable damage I didn't notice. I just had to cut the wires and the PC kept working fine (I tested it without the front panel connector).

[@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung]

To be fair, I too, have made this mistake. Only difference is, I bought my Lenovo Thinkcentre thinking I'd make a mini Media PC, but not only does it lack PCI-e slots, it's a Pentium E2160 with SODIMM RAM, PLUS it uses an Intel GMA GPU chip... ... and since the board only supports 2GB per SODIMM slot, it barely manages to emulate Sega MegaDrive games with more than 20FPS... *Now it's being used as a doorstop*

[@emiplays4044]

If you want an fps counter to show up in csgo you need to enable the console in game options and then type cl_showfps 1 into the console

[@ozmobozo]

I love how British people got pink when exposed to sunlight. There's something cute when that happens.

[@Loundsify]

We our the land of the Celts, we're made for cold wet climates not hot climates. Because our skin is pale it means we can absorb more sunlight in darker conditions. So thousands of years of natural selection of people dying from lack of vitamin C is why the more north you go in the northern hemisphere you find paler people.

[@ozmobozo]

@@Loundsify Is it really hot in there? Sorry I'm too Mediterranean to understand how this happens.

[@Loundsify]

@@ozmobozo we have hot days in summer, but it's not that hot, 25c-30c Max in summer and that would be a good day, on average 20c. We don't get many sunny days, there's always clouds in the sky apart from the odd rare days. I can still burn in cloudy weather in summer lol.

[@ozmobozo]

@@Loundsify I thought so. My friend from Wales told me that it's always raining. Even in the middle of summer it may rain she says. But I guess when you are really white because your skin rarely sees sun, it burns a lot easier than for example mine which is used to sunlight.

[@ozmobozo]

@@Loundsify Also thanks for taking your time. It was a nice conversation.

[@BM1620]

Appreciate your honesty, definitely an impulse buy, but hey things happen! You're knowledgeable enough to salvage the situation, like ya said it still wasn't a bad purchase for the HDD and RAM alone.

[@funkmetal]

Fraps and Afterburner didn't work in CS because of the new Trusted Mode, theres a launch command that should let them through

[@fittsy7534]

If there are any situations where in some games, your frame counter does not work, go to the developer console, type in "cl_showfps 1" or something like that, this is what the command would be for CSGO. There was an update for CSGO that disabled any third party overlay apps, to prevent cheaters from cheating in the game. If you want to have your counters up in your recordings when testing CSGO, type in "-untrusted" in the launch options of the game.

[@rahulmohanty4724]

I believe the case can be reused you can mount a atx psu by drillind out the rivets holding the block off plate near the mounting holes for psu. If I was at your place I would build a sleeper PC in that case

[@GUARDIANA01]

Mate , as an old PC builder from way back I gotta say this is one of the best vids yet 😉. It's nice to see/hear that honesty level bro and on this end it gives us a smile to see you roll with it . .......That 4-5 fps lol !! Classic 😂......

[@Imblitzyboi]

This is more entertaining than most of your other videos in my opinion cause pretty much no one popular has talked about this cpu recent times

[@helloimash]

I'd like to try to explain why a computer company does this. In the world of office PCs, your margins and profit are absolutely key. It makes *a lot* more sense if you can produce one PC case that you can use all up and down various price categories, because your margins are much higher on one very flexible PC case vs. the whole design process of several unique cases. In this case, the hardware is likely the cheapest possible configuration available - suitable (for example) sitting under a receptionist or secretary's desk, whose IT needs are extremely basic and so the company wants to buy something as cheap as possible. For this use case, the company selling this makes the best profit because all that's really unique to this PC is the internal guts. Everything else is reused from what they already have and so their profit on each of these sold is good. Hope this is helpful, genuinely.

[@lbwlow]

Got one of these from salvage with a faulty main board last time... decided to get a drill to get rid of the rivets in order to get rid of the PSU cover plate and put a PSU on it and replace the motherboard with an AMD FM2 APU

[@madmatt2024]

I found a PC like this in the E-waste last year. It had an AMD A4 CPU soldered to the motherboard but, oddly enough, it still had an X16 slot despite not having a PSU.

[@Ammageddon89]

@RandomGamingHD - just a little tip - the steam overlay has a FPS counter built in. Just in case Fraps etc isn´t working.

[@dekoldrick]

I've made the same mistake. Buying a nice looking case hoping to built into it from the ground up only for it to be a BTX case which has zero upgradable motherboard beyond LGA 775.

[@CoMmAnDrX]

Occasionally I get one of those type PC's in for repair and the client never brings the power brick. Luckily a regular Laptop AC Adapter works. Could use the board in a smaller case and make a Emulator out of it. ETAPrime would...

[@iLife64]

I have the same computer laying around, I’ve been considering throwing it into an itx case and turn it into an ultra low power personal server since all it needs is an HP charger

[@kjetilhvalstrand1009]

Just plug in a raid controller into the pcie slots, … wait a second where is the pcie slot.. :-)

[@corydensley7631]

A couple of months ago I upgraded my video card. I kept having games crash on me and I thought the card was defective. I went to take it out of my system to return it and found I hadn't completely plugged in the 8 pin pci-e power connector (it pulled out without pushing on the clip) so it was only drawing power from the 6 pin. I've been building pc's since 1999... Everyone makes stupid mistakes from time to time.

[@ehsnils]

That would be nice for a small low-power application. Not a huge amount of money and as long as it works then it's not a total waste.

[@uss-dh7909]

Picked one of these up at a pawnshop for around $120 five years ago. Came with a baller 27' 1080 monitor but damn, that thing is just a box full of barely hot air. I'm almost tempted to make a cardboard case with it.

[@testremote240]

I narrowly avoided buying something very much like this at a PC World store, only with actual laptop SODIMMs and a CPU soldered to the board. It was masquerading as a desktop and it might have fooled me had I not asked a (very helpful) sales assistant to open the side panel for me so I could check for expandability. He was as surprised as I was when we saw what was inside. There are a lot of these kinds of systems out there, so always do your research even when buying something that's "just for netflix". Also, you might be surprised at what you can get away with if you just ask nicely.

[@thepezfeo]

I have a HP similar to this but mine doesn't have a desktop CPU, it has a SoC (Pentium J2900). I moved the mobo to an ITX case and used tin-snips to cut out holes for desktop PSU and graphics card.

[@Badtaste21]

A few weeks ago I wanted to clean a fan in an old HP laptop and it turns out you have to disassemble the entire thing to even get there. I didn't want to take the time, so I used a vacuum cleaner and tried my best. It seems to have worked, at least it's cooler now, but it's still sad HP doesn't care about maintainability. Needless to say, I don't like HP. But I'm not a fan of especially these OEMs in general. They are part of the reason why we have so much e-waste and I despise this mentality.

[@MonsieurGinger]

If that i/o shield pops out, I'd try to put the motherboard into an HTPC case. It might make a great streaming PC.

[@loveandpower]

don't forget the optical drive either. That's an easy $10 right there. The case is a good save as well. Perhaps saw out the case for the upper drives if needed (if you can't get it with screws) Would be great for a mini atx style case low budget in the future.

[@PenguinYayOne]

6:35 There is a built-in FPS counter in the steam overlay. You can enable it from the overlay settings. It works almost all the time. Also, in source games: open the in-game terminal and you can use "net_graph 3" for example.

[@tommyhallows]

I remember looking up this type of HP. I found the G2020T lacked performance than the G2020 which was £7 more.

[@NaahBruhX]

Csgo has an inbuilt stat display option tho:- 1. Go to settings and activate the developer console option. 2. Press the ~ key in game and type 'net_graph 1' without the quotes. Displays FPS ping and packet loss percentage on the bottom of the game at all times.

[@joefish6091]

Reduce the fan count by removing the CPU fan and fitting a duct from the CPU hs to the case fan (switch fan connector to CPU header), that was standard for quite a few OEM models back in the day, plastic dryer hose spiral duct works nicely. An alternative is translating the mobo to a SFF case. maybe a novelty one.

[@notifykoplz4876]

Whoever made that slide show you did so good

[@eddiesoto-ramirez3493]

I saw the case and immediately knew. Have an AMD based system that's part of the same line of PCs just sitting in my closet after being retired 3 years ago. Good thing is if you remove the panel for the PSU you can make a micro-atx apu build in that case, which would probably work good as an htpc.

[@zilchdevotegaming6710]

Yeah me and my brother recently built in one of these cases... That was a pain. 2 hhds and a non atx power supply are both painful.

[@kodaloid]

Was trying to find some positives for this motherboard, but there is no USB3 and no PCIE ports making it only a little bit more useful than a raspberry pi. The main thing I can imagine it being good for is acting as a file backup server as it does have two SATA connectors, or a game server for CSGO or Minecraft.

[@mouseboyx]

Desktop setups like this are out there in different configurations, I've seen some with DC input on the IO panel, and others with a cpu tdp that could use one, but they opt for a 24pin atx connector and include pci slots. The ones with embedded amd apus from hp or compaq seem to have the pci slots, although most of them will run in 4x mode. For some reason the one that I tested wouldn't give me video out when I tried a graphics card.

[@jonesymate581]

I made one of these into a "gaming pc" once. Lots of dremeling and a bit of drilling. Obviously I swapped out the motherboard for something that actually had an expansion slot, mounted a full size psu, dremeled some vents into the front panel and added an intake fan. Specs were: Phenom x6 1100t 8gb ddr3 1333 Gtx 560ti 2gb 120gb ssd 500gb hdd Performance and temperatures were woeful but it all worked and I had heaps of fun doing it.

[@parrotv2]

You can still drill out rivets at psu slot and get cheap oem MOBO with PCIe

[@ayuchanayuko]

or CSGO, you can get a basic FPS counter from the settings in the Steam UI Overlay (Shift+Enter). Works with any Steam-based game really

[@tylerand]

I knew before it even got half way into the first minute what this monstrosity was, I made the same mistake. I was able to flip it for a profit, but what a let down it was. If I remember correctly, the model I had did actually have a PCI-E slot on it, but I'm not sure if that's right. I seem to remember getting a 750ti running in it off of the slots power.

[@zuyvox]

Recently I got a PhenomX3 8600, 4GB Ram, 640GB HDD and a ATI 3650, together with a 20" TFT for 20 €.

[@deniznalbantov3588]

there is an fps counter in the steam settings. If you enable it, it will display on all your steam games.

[@santoyo85]

If that mother board have one of those tiny pci express slots for the wifi module probably you could adapt one graphic card. I mean, the reverse stuff that they make when they transform a regular laptop into a gaming one using adapters and a power supply.

[@budgetking2591]

You can turn on the fps counter in steam, its in the steam settings, and then the '' in game'' tab.

[@HellFire107]

I own this computer! Pentium G2020T & 4GB RAM. No PCI Express slot. It ran terribly with the stock hard drive & but after an SSD upgrade, it became a lot more capable. Thinking about upgrading the CPU to a 3220T and RAM to 8GB... But it's probably not worth it considering what new hardware is capable of.

[@srbnst]

I gave a like. You're not an idiot. Room for improvement not room for error. Cheer up. You have a great KZbin channel, one of my favorites.

[@AJComputerServicesUK]

I picked up a HP S5000 which cost me a little bit more than what you paid for that although not a lot more, It's a Slimline and about half the thickness so as you can imagine it's nowhere near as bulky, Main differences between the one you bought off eBay and My S5000 are that this one has a PCI-E Slot for a Low-Profile Graphics Card and an internal PSU, Another thing I like about the S5000 is that their's a Portable HDD Docking Bay at the front of the machine which can come in handy! 🙂 Biggest issue to me is when PC Manufacturers install bespoke PSU's into their Computers as they cost an Arm and a Leg if you need to replace them unless they use Standard Connectors and Mounting holes etc...

[@kritpitako]

I know that feel, bro. I bought an SFF HP Compaq PC. the model is DC5100 SFF that comes with Celeron D 2.66 GHz and 1 GB Ram runs on Win XP. I've tried to upgrade a CPU to make it faster but it doesn't work. BIOS tells me that's Error 1801 Microcode Update error and I can't Update or flash my BIOS in any way. In the end, I throw it into the dumpster for recycling and I paid more than 4 times of buying price.

[@TechnoLadz]

I think the problem is is that the iGPU only has 256MB dedicated to it, if you tried it with 512MB or 1GB it may perform better

[@soviet_idiot]

CSGO updated a few weeks ago to refuse "untrusted" software to inject in the game OBS, Fraps, MSI Afterburner are effected. Use the console command "net_graph 1" or "cl_showfps 1".

[@ArakiSatoshi]

Don't worry, we appreciate that you still made a nice video out of this situation :D

[@jaimenbrunson1652]

I had the same exact one and I was pissed when I looked at the inside realizing there was no PCIe slot

[@xvindix]

Same thing happened to me years ago. I got a new Dell for a crazy deal planning to swap out the video card. I knew the CPU was good enough and the RAM speeds at the time weren't varying so much like they do today (Pentium 4 era). Then to my suprise, there was no AGP slot!

[@MarcosCodas]

The best thing about the Intel HD graphics is that they run Fallout 3 and New Vegas well enough. I spent years playing those games on my 2670QM-powered Thinkpad.

[@rafaelrsc9640]

My laptop went wrong in the lockdown and, I had to use a computer that was laying around at home. As it was a PC I thought I could do some mods to it, but before opening it I searched on the internet for my 2012 HP model. It turned out to be a similar PC but with an Intel i3 3240t.

[@Ficii1]

Csgo had the update that blocks 3rd party programs. You need to use the launch option -allow_third_party_software to display msi or fraps.