RANGE BET OR POLARISE? - 200z Play & Explain with THEORY DISCUSSION

[@blomquist.j]

Really like the notepad in the beginning (clearly shows what the video will be about) and the session review with nodelocking in the end. Keep up the good work!

[@q23gf8902h3g4j]

I'm getting back into nl after a long stint into plo. Feels like I got lucky coming across this channel straight away. Great content

[@Sejdr]

Producing this high-end content for free - you deserve YT rungood!

[@pkrelmo]

Hahaha, one way to look at it! Thank you for the kind words mate 😎♥️

[@chrisungoed8793]

Best video you've put out yet mate. Thanks for sharing.

[@eazeazeaz]

I can’t thank you enough for this one. Clear, instant winrate boost, probably 5bb/100+

[@stefan8110]

Superb stuff, looking forward to more like this!

[@markux1983]

Super informative poker content! I like how you think hands through while playing. Minor tip: you might want to configure a shortcut for folding on PokerStars. I use the right click of my mouse (or even a key from my keyboard) so I don’t have to look for the fold button all the time. Highly recommended, specially for zoom plays. 😊😊😊

[@SkeeNnN]

Very nice video! I am more of an overbet guy myself, but I really like this B25 strat aswell. I think this video highlights the age old debate between playing a simple strategy where you minimize your own mistakes, or playing the more advanced (OB) strat where villain is put in tough spots and hopefully will make larger mistakes than yourself. please do more of these play and explain combined with theory videos in the future, it's a super awesome format!

[@pkrelmo]

Thank you mate! ♥️

[@marcoaggio2326]

Amazing video, please more of these! Thanks man❤

[@Günni133]

Watching this will be my new warm up before the poker session😊❤️

[@pkrelmo]

I hope it brings you the same rungood I got here 😂

[@PokerFlex772]

Sick video mate! Well deserved rungood 💪

[@julienpugnoud7574]

I like the structure of your vidéo.

[@thehboppa]

AJo BTN v BB on AK7r, have to be super careful here playing more than 1 sizing on the river vs regs. Obviously jam is standard and AJ never makes it into there, but I think it's probably a mistake to carve out more than 1 size on the river. Solver pretty much just uses 1 size here and if I ever saw you bet pot here instead of jam, I'd probably xjam my entire range because I expect your range to be extremely face up to exactly what you have. In the spirit of simplifying, you really don't want to arrive on the river and have to randomly figure out what % of the time you're going to pot your AK as opposed to jam it. Ofc vs fish do whatever, and TBH you can probably get away with this vs most 200z regs, but I suspect splitting sizes in this spot is going to get you into a world of pain vs better regs/higher up! Great vid as always.

[@pkrelmo]

Yeah I think this is a really, really great point. I simmed this one afterwards myself and saw the error of my ways as I think I underestimated just how much 2p villain is meant to have on the river. I do generally think splitting sizes on the river is a good play overall as our value regions are often very clearly defined though I do appreciate the need to be careful when we're looking to carve out a sizing for a very small and specific bucket of hands 🙌

[@hikikomoriechi]

This topic is something I was thinking about. On one hand, the overbet/check is the strategy that the solver prefers to play, and even though it is more difficult, the opponent will likely be less familiar with it and may play arguably worse, with fewer check-raises, for example. We will be more familiar with this strategy and implement it better. On the other hand, with a small continuation bet on the flop, I’ve heard that the population tends to overfold to turn continuation bets and overbluff on the river after a checked turn. If you’re saying that highstakes pros use it more, I guess I should try to use more range betting.I'm playing NL100, by the way. Also, maybe I can use it in 3-bet pots in position, taking advantage of the fact that people don't check-raise enough.

[@pkrelmo]

There's absolutely pros and cons to both and I think what you have to do is to decide which approach will suit you best. I've played both strategies and think that smaller bets are easier for me to minimise my own mistakes and that's my focus when I'm the pre flop raiser. However, playing polarised and putting your opponents into lines they may be under-studied in is also a very valid approach.

[@enricobernucci3527]

Keep it going! 💪

[@arnogoossens9892]

"Feels like I always have a hand". Yeah it does, it's Zoom.

[@RobShaw5]

Thanks for this Simon! Really great video. Speak soon bud.

[@antt1s]

Really like your videos! Thanks for great content. What rng are you using?

[@_888martin7]

great stuff!

[@gladyslucas198]

Great content

[@RapWalaKavi]

You know it's a serious discussion when no one in the comments mentioned "leveraging your nuts vs. your opponent's nuts"

[@pkrelmo]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@philippedemay6026]

i watch alott of poker content on youtube for improving and ur by far my favorite one, i would like to get coaching from u

[@pkrelmo]

Thank you mate! If you head into the linktree in the description, you can apply for 1-1 coaching through there ❤

[@undamoviemaking]

As someone out there on my own trying to figure these things out and struggling to untangle the signal from the noise of my own results, having someone explain these things so clearly is absolute gold and so helpful for my own sanity. The AT52 with AQ turn bet/check decision is against a presumably strong player who might be good enough to realise an imbalance if you were betting all your strong hands on the turn and so playing the strategy in a balanced way makes perfect sense. Does it make any sense to protect our turn range when we're against a weaker player? My instinct is no but then how do we handle our air heavy range on the river? Is the answer then not to use the range bet on the flop?

[@pkrelmo]

Hi mate, glad you’re enjoying the videos! Really good question and I think the answer is potentially a complex one. When we think about exploiting or being exploited we often think about people deliberately doing this to their opponents. But in reality there are a lot of situations where we exploit our opponents and may not even realise it. This springs to mind when we think about this particular b-x line. A lot of regs are going to over bluff in this kind of line (in both positions) and they probably won’t even realise it. The problem is that even though they don’t know, they are still exploiting us if our range construction is poor. I like to reframe the turn xb from being a passive option to thinking about it in terms of “delaying aggression”. I’m not checking back turn to be less aggressive, I’m checking back to raise the river and win potentially more money that way. I think the biggest reason that people don’t protect their turn xb range enough is they fear they’re missing value. And in a lot of situations this really isn’t the case. So in short, yes, I’d still xb the turn with strong hands haha.

[@undamoviemaking]

​@@pkrelmo Thanks Simon, really appreciate you taking the time to give a detailed answer. So against opponents who are overbluffing river probes we're taking the worst possible line by arriving with a range full of air. Our value also benefits from their overbluffing with hands that would've folded to a turn cbet and can still raise to make up the value we missed on the previous street against hands we're coolering. This makes me wonder how often I'm accidentally playing into the hands of my opponents by disregarding balance. I'd be really interested to see more content on your approach towards balance, exploits and simplified strategies.

[@pkrelmo]

@@undamoviemakingyou nail it mate! Can definitely look to talk about this idea more in future vids ♥️

[@BenjaminK18335]

good stuff

[@FivesEyes]

Love your videos. Make sure you hit the like guys, help him get paid

[@andy-mb3nn]

Great video! If you don't mind could you tell me what app you're using to get all the extra bet sizes? Also, the random number generator? Thanks!

[@pkrelmo]

Jurojin 🫡

[@danmanaila9194]

Great video mate. In regards to the AQo hand, I think that the turn pot size is preferred to 200% because BB actually gets some nut combos that we don't have, like 43 and 52. Do you think in practice that's enough of a factor to decrease the turn size, or is it too important to mash his Ax region and ignore that part of the range?

[@pkrelmo]

Thank you mate! I’d say it’s definitely a factor to consider but I wouldn’t lose too much sleep over it generally speaking.

[@abstract1603]

Y are a custom gto wizard mate 😅 y nail it , open eyer pieces of information

[@HarryMTG]

12:04 BU vs CO 3bp on the straight board CO is meant to have a lot of donks right? I just simplify to range check as people do not find the donks

[@pkrelmo]

Generally yes when it's a reg. If it's a rec however, they will call too many hands pre flop and therefore the EQ's won't equalise out as much as they would vs a reg. So I definitely would play a cbetting range here vs a rec though I think a hand like TT makes a decent one to xb as it's easy to navigate later and isn't a slam dunk 3 street hand most of the time.

[@johannmozart9381]

Sat1337 is oldschool Nosebleed Player, he "retired" in like 2016, interesting seeing him in the mix.

[@pkrelmo]

Yeah, he’s extremely good, can definitely tell he’s a level or two above it

[@HarryMTG]

🔥

[@andrewfraancis]

I hope you’re well I saw that you quit at Epiphany - keep going 😁

[@belozj]

tnx for video, good stuff

[@pv3201]

Thank you! How do you determine which boards are range b25 vs not? Node lock it and see how much equity it gives up vs solver strategy?

[@pkrelmo]

More just put in the 25% size and then look at the frequency. If it’s high enough then just simplify to a range bet. I never like looking at EV loss much just because it’s always negligible and assumes someone is going to play the alternative strategy perfectly.

[@hansari8697]

Pretty sure A high with 2 wheel cards BTNvBB would be closer to 25/75 bet/check than 75/25 especially if you assume the BB isn't playing leads. Think most of them 1/3 bet/check. One of the spots most players way over cbet at least in the anonymous pool I play in. Node lock for IP range bet and BB goes nuts.

[@pkrelmo]

You got a timestamp for this one mate!?

[@hyunlee3543]

Great video. Thanks Elmo 🫡

[@AshotMkrtchyan-z4o]

You are great! Won a subscriber! Can you explain in two words what is exactly polarised bet? For example @ 35:00 you are saying you will polarise this - so you will bluff?

[@pkrelmo]

Hey mate, thanks for the sub! So by polarising here I mean I’m going to use a bigger sizing scheme (pot sized bet in this case) meaning that my betting range is going to be more narrow. So in this case I wouldn’t really be betting much 2nd & 3rd pair for value like I would if I chose a smaller sizing scheme. Hope that explains it but feel free to ask any follow up questions ♥️

[@mapzpoker]

lfg watching now

[@danpickles6321]

RangeBet4Life

[@robertosansone8992]

Love Ur Channel dude❤ simple question: do you suggests for microstakes players zoom or normal tables? I play reg table with a good WR at nl10, but i was asking my self why do everybody play also zoom? I used to play It before 2016 to keep and reach supernova even at nl10, but now seems a bad choice to me. Thats why im considering switching ti ipoker for more reg tables and direct back

[@pkrelmo]

People like zoom because of its ease of getting into games and the fast nature of it. I’d say that if you’re grinding reg tables with a good WR and are happy with that then continue to do so! It’s all personal preference and there’s not a huge upside to zoom over reg tables imo.

[@robertosansone8992]

I have 4 times the WR on reg tables and gonna keep them for sure. Was Just curious why you streamers seems to Just play fast fold poker and never speaking about good old reg tables😂 i Hope u gonna show us them too soon

[@MiamiConfusion]

just started watching and the AK5 hand has me wondering, in the same way there's boards we polarize in theory but in practice it's counterintuitive, do you think there's spots where we can get away with over betting flop as an exploit, even if in theory it's not advised?

[@pkrelmo]

Great question and yes I think so. If we think our opponent is going to station too often then betting bigger shoots up in EV with our value so it would make sense to work that into our strategy. I think in general with sizing schemes it’s always important to consider how you’re able to minimise your own mistakes whilst also capitalising on your opponents. If you can find that sweetspot then the game is gonna be very profitable for you 🙌🏻

[@RILURILUCR0C0DILU]

Hey Simon, great video, imo the play and explain format is most value packed. One thing I meant to ask, heard u say that u tried to RFI 2x for a while but gave up, can I ask what u disliked about it?

[@pkrelmo]

Hey man! Yeah, I tried it for a while. The upside is that you’re going to get overfolds from the blinds as people are forced to defend wider than they’re used to. The downside was that I was stealing the blinds much less and as this is so valuable it was affecting my overall positional WR. So I decided to revert back to more standard sizings.

[@RILURILUCR0C0DILU]

Ok so I was thinking (and please correct me if I say something dumb) that when they end up post with more combos, it's not exactly bad for us and we can either ramp up aggression with a bunch of B25-B50 range cbets and frequent double barrels, OR we try and polarize on more flops while developing a healthy x/ range to give villain's extra trash the chance to over bluff on turns and rivers in various lines. I don't have any 200z data, but at 100z and 200 6m reg tables, pop is way overfolding to 2x RFI, including from the CO/BTN and also vs

[@pkrelmo]

@@RILURILUCR0C0DILU​​⁠generally if you size smaller pre then more range bets would be the way. Because your opening range won’t change too much but their defending range will and it will always be more air heavy. And yeah everyone overfolds to the 2x open BUT we never outperform the winrate of stealing the blinds. So there’s a big trade off to be had.

[@RILURILUCR0C0DILU]

@@pkrelmo Ah ok that's what u mean with a lower win rate, not getting those extra folds pre flop. That's very interesting, I've honestly never imagined an extra 8-9% fold equity pre would be worth that much but I can def see that being the case now, it should add up quickly. And I suspect this is also a thing when it comes to sizing for 3 and 4b? I tend to size smaller esp when 4betting for that same reason, to keep ranges wider and be able to be aggressive post. But I guess more FE pre would be more valuable?

[@pkrelmo]

@@RILURILUCR0C0DILU yep, within reason of course! We want to find that sweet spot. Go into your DB and check your WR when you steal the blinds from the button and compare it to when you go post flop. Will open your eyes a touch, I think!

[@Karel9606]

Hi, great video. A poker newbie here. Thank you for making them. Is there a difference when you say that you are going to range bet and when you c-bet the flop?

[@pkrelmo]

Hi mate! So yes, when I say I'm going to range bet, that means I'm going to bet every single hand I arrive here with on the flop. So if it's BTN v BB on K72 then I'll range bet this one for a small size. When I'm just cbetting, I will be more selective and check back some hands when given the opportunity. So again if it's BTN v BB and the board is 874, I'll play some cbets and some checks on this texture. Hope that helps!

[@Karel9606]

Thank you. Makes sense. Sometimes just can't understand some stuff and when written is way more clear.

[@ropsukka2720]

Nl500 ever running on stars?

[@vinsterw]

Wouldn't you want to have a block size with Ax on 8810JA? Not sure if JJ is a combo you want to put to balance, but that was my first instinct instead of shove

[@pkrelmo]

Potentially in theory but I think vs a recreational we’re much better just jamming as they often won’t raise their 8x vs small in that kind of spot and that would just be a disaster

[@AJM813]

Love the vid but that mouse cursor is massive!

[@pkrelmo]

😂😂 Yeah, I switched to Camtasia for recording and this seems to have happened. Will check in the settings and see if I can fix it for the next vid 🙌🏻

[@jonnynordstrom5785]

Great content! But why dont you just sit out for a few min when you have hand to discuss? :) Would make it much easier to follow!

[@pkrelmo]

Yep, will definitely do this next time!

[@jonnynordstrom5785]

@@pkrelmo Do you have a heuristic to find the airball bluffs OTT after range betting flopp? The natural bluffs as gutters etc are easy to find as you say!

[@iudicus]

Please just sit out for a minute...if you wanna discuss/explain a hand so urgently. I don't think that will bother anyone who watches online poker analysis videos. Quite the opposite...it's rather annoying to see you struggling because you just won't allow yourself to focus on one thing at a time. Peace ✌

[@iudicus]

Otherwise good content! Got yourself another sub.

[@iudicus]

I'm using Tracker and Jurojin as well btw...but who doesn't these days...

[@HasNoName69]

how is it possible that you play nl200/500 and dont have select on stars?

[@jamiebury1807]

what do you mean dont have select ?

[@pkrelmo]

They took it away from me because I didn’t hit the quotas 😂 I stopped playing zoom in my regular grind and decided to focus on reg tables and mix sites, basically.

[@Twinkieboy333]

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