RANKED CHOICE VOTING: FACT VS FICTION | RepresentUs

[@jefcaruss5327]

We have it Australia and it is great.

[@ttystikkrocks1042]

I'm in Colorado and I'M VOTING IN FAVOR OF RCV!

[@EnragedMollusk]

We need proportional representation.

[@zacharybrand8145]

There is a multi winner proportional representation variant of Ranked Choice Voting too.

[@bigrymrman]

I appreciate videos like this from RepresentUs. The 2-party approach (e.g. in the USA) is atrocious. So I've been hoping that GA and the USA could move to Ranked Choice Voting. But I recently learned there is an approach that's even better than RCV. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approval_voting Amazing Veritasium episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5eaqKZoeatgsM0 RepresentUs, serious question: Why not push for approval voting instead?

[@Ecosentidos]

Ive had the same question for a while 🤔

[@kevinaguilar7541]

While I agree it sucks there are two main parties. The other parties for a left wing person like me are not available. The greens are total frauds, and the socialists are probably not going to get elected under any other system except proportional voting. So this is why I have to vote democrat.

[@Franimus]

Because of this drawback, quote from Wikipedia: voters are generally forced to reverse the preference order of two options, which if done on a larger scale can cause an unpopular candidate to win.

[@bigrymrman]

The Wikipedia article doesn't fully explain why (or when) RCV would​ be better. And why RepresentUs would prefer it. The experts mentioned in the Veritasium episode favored Approval. @@Franimus

[@Franimus]

@@bigrymrman I'll have to rewatch the V episode, I don't have time right now. But I think RCV does not encourage as much counterintuitive and harmful strategy.

[@themogget8808]

Vote YES on Prop 1 in Idaho!

[@ThinkFreeFindTruth]

I am for sure. Idaho is getting way too radical.

[@themogget8808]

@@ThinkFreeFindTruth We went from the sort of Republicans who cared about building roads and schools to ones who care about abortion and book bans. Even if you agreed with these positions, they are not focusing on mainstream government tasks.

[@martin_323]

RCV is better than what you get in the US now, for sure. But STAR voting seems even easier.

[@zyxzevn]

There should be voting on different policies proposed by several different parties. Like in Switzerland, but more advanced. Currently even the US politicians are voting for/against a book-work of policies and law-changes, pushed by the lobbyists. Too large to read, and often too obscure to understand. That book-work include corrupt budgets towards goals that benefit only a few. Nothing of it is about democracy.

[@dairebulson7122]

I mean, it's not guaranteed that a candidate will get over 50% (people can still choose only their top, or say, top two choices), but it certainly increases the chances of getting over 50%

[@afropenguin]

I mean traditional Ranked choice has you rank all the candidates. But the us does like to do things differently so will depend 😅

[@dairebulson7122]

@@afropenguin At least the way Alaska does it, you can rank however few or many you're want

[@skilltreebusybee]

Its how you save democracy 😂

[@meowingsoup8293]

RCV is based!

[@jimk8520]

Fact: Vertasium presented mathematical proof that democracy is impossible (ranked choice included).

[@pixelquantz]

Did you check their math? I didn't, but I agree that pure democracy is mathematically impossible, especially if you're talking about millions of voters. However representative democracy is not impossible, and IMO Ranked Choice Voting is one of the best ways of electing our representatives. We currently have a two party system and it's almost always important to vote for the lesser of two evil candidates, and we don't dare vote our conscience if it's a third party candidate because that would introduce the spoiler effect and possibly get the worst of two evils elected. I would enact RCV nation wide if I could.

[@jimk8520]

@@pixelquantz Ranked choice gets us as close to ideal as we can get but it’s still flawed. I encourage you to watch the Vertasium video if you’re interested. Math is….

[@pixelquantz]

@@jimk8520 I did watch the Vertasium video and I agree with the premise there. Yes RCV is still flawed, because nothing is perfect, but I maintain that it would a major step toward electing representatives that would actually represent us, and move us toward eradicating some of the corruption in our system.

[@jimk8520]

@@pixelquantz I’d like to think that our society could still be here and healthy in 500 years (long after I’ve left). In my opinion, we are running out of time to make the changes necessary to ensure that happens and playing these games just ensures that outcome. The last 50 years have taught me that changing the players doesn’t change the game.

[@BeeCeeJay]

You might wanna be a little careful about using Veritasium (or really any KZbinr) as the end-all-be-all of sources for bold claims of indisputable fact on the internet, Jim.

[@dovh49]

The issue isn't the voting system. The issue is that Americans are just too different. Multi-culturalism always fails in the long run unless you have strict laws that apply to everyone.

[@Franimus]

Do you have an example where ranked choice voting worked against multi-culturalism?