Ranking ALL 297 POKEMON ABILITIES with Finchinator!

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@josidfin
@josidfin Жыл бұрын
do you clear the cud chew line?
@irakyl
@irakyl Жыл бұрын
Finch my man you really need to play some AAA, some of these placements have knocked me out of my chair
@tuck3771
@tuck3771 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not as I am always damp 😔
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 Жыл бұрын
She chews on my cud as I clear her line.
@RD-xf4yg
@RD-xf4yg Жыл бұрын
I am unaware.
@kipnugget3670
@kipnugget3670 Жыл бұрын
Yes, haxorus > kyurem black
@propanesquid5234
@propanesquid5234 Жыл бұрын
Skips to end of video and makes mean comment on tier list without hearing the 3 hours worth of valid justifications like a boss
@wumbojet
@wumbojet Жыл бұрын
"it's his fault for putting intimidate there"
@billbob9674
@billbob9674 Жыл бұрын
Most in character eridan pfp
@Toastythebold
@Toastythebold Жыл бұрын
That sounds fun im going to try
@Toastythebold
@Toastythebold Жыл бұрын
Rough skin and skill link in B?? The travesty my goodness
@thatoneguy3840
@thatoneguy3840 Жыл бұрын
@@wumbojet that was HIS mistake!
@remysmets
@remysmets Жыл бұрын
Delta stream is actually completely busted: it removes all flying weaknesses, so mega rayquaza is resistant to electric, neutral against rock and 2x weak against ice.
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as long as it's on a flying mon, it's most certainly one the best individual abilities that isn't Wonder Guard or a trapping ability. You nullify 3 weaknesses and also nullify weather, including the primal weather conditions.
@Veinelso
@Veinelso Жыл бұрын
​@@glumreaper8885it would be good on any type, getting a resist to electric and ice in a game where bolt beam hits everything neutral is super busted
@chainsawhavoc
@chainsawhavoc Жыл бұрын
​@@Veinelso thats not how delta stream works
@russellw6872
@russellw6872 Жыл бұрын
@@Veinelso It alters the type chart for Flying directly. A pure Flying Pokémon would have no weakness, but a pure Water Pokémon would still be weak to Electric.
@mario-nk7be
@mario-nk7be Жыл бұрын
Not completely convinced on this, like is it better than fur coat, that gives you double defense? Or intimidate, which makes you take less damage from all physical attacks? Even then, winning a neutrality isnt that useful bc you dont really wall stuff like that, so its only good on flying types with natural neutralities to rock, electric or ice
@glacierwolf2155
@glacierwolf2155 Жыл бұрын
Battle Bond wasn't just nerfed, it was completely reworked. Instead of accessing Greninja-Ash, it now gives a +1 to Attack, Special Attack, and Speed _once per battle._
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
It was triple nerfed. It's vulnerable to haze/faze, can't come back in and regain the boosts, and no longer provides a boost to Water Shuriken.
@xaropevic7918
@xaropevic7918 Жыл бұрын
​@@glumreaper8885 Quadruple as it is ignored by unaware
@thebestworst8002
@thebestworst8002 Жыл бұрын
With all the unaware Pokémon it’s definitely worse now
@coatrak1357
@coatrak1357 Жыл бұрын
​@@thebestworst8002 I mean does anybody really think it was better anyways?
@new_project.mp4
@new_project.mp4 Жыл бұрын
quintuple nerfed, now opportunist mons can copy your boosts
@fulltimeslackerii8229
@fulltimeslackerii8229 Жыл бұрын
this video summed up: ability: you gain 1 extra HP when eating a situs berry finch and nate: “well i could see this being really useful for belly drum sweepers. they can transfer 4 HP EV’s away and still be able to make substitutes x 2 for when you trick a salac berry from your opponent later on while at 1 HP. probably a D tier ability. maybe C but we’ll see how the rest of the video goes. ice scales? F. just run blissey”
@ltnfbeatz1187
@ltnfbeatz1187 Жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@greenheroes
@greenheroes Жыл бұрын
aura break doesn't add a resistance to fairy or dark, it turns the multiplier of fairy aura and dark aura from a buff to a debuff. closer to D I'd say. ice face gets restored under hail, so it's technically better than disguise. misty surge doesn't boost fairy moves. receiver and power of alchemy are exactly the same thing, but are not rated the same. well baked body is better flash fire, not even close to water compaction (which isn't an immunity)
@NathanLikesChicken
@NathanLikesChicken Жыл бұрын
oh god aura breaks terrible lmao. As for the other things, idk man a lot of that seems like nitpicking or quibbling over a small mistake. Hard to cover 297 abilities in a row and be 100% accurate
@josidfin
@josidfin Жыл бұрын
LMAO we goofed
@balancemaster55
@balancemaster55 Жыл бұрын
Ice face does nothing against special attacks
@jetseschoffelmeer6706
@jetseschoffelmeer6706 Жыл бұрын
Also Rivalry powers down moves against the opposite gender, so it's a 50/50 between useful and terrible. Probably should be in D or even F (definitely well below C+)
@balancemaster55
@balancemaster55 Жыл бұрын
@@NathanLikesChicken curious medicine is not what you think it is, I never heard of it before so I looked it up when you mentioned it as you made it sound like prankster+haze which has been a staple in Balance hackmons for a few gens now. It only erased the stats on your allies so it's useless in singles. If you make another video keep it in mind cause you rank a few abilities as being worse than curious medicine when in reality curious medicine doesn't exist so those other abilities such as opportunities are the closest to counters to that. Also prankster haze works against dark types cause haze targets the field and not the opponent which is why it's used in balanced hackmons high ladder more than topsy turvy.
@iceegg12345
@iceegg12345 Жыл бұрын
Water Compaction is similar to Well Baked Body but it isn’t actually an immunity. You still have to take the hit to get the +2 which makes it objectively worse by a bit
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
I think the most notable difference is in how to use the abilities proactively. WBB stops the move from doing anything, whereas WC let's you multistack in one turn and proc weakness policy. In most cases, immunity is still better, but at least WC has a niche.
@BergweinGaming
@BergweinGaming Жыл бұрын
Colossand would love that water immunity so much, though 😢
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 Жыл бұрын
Compound Eyes is usually on Pokemon with Sleep Powder which turns the move from 75% accurate to 97.5% accurate, which is HUGE for those Pokemon
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray Жыл бұрын
Also Focus Miss to Focus Shouldn't Miss (70% -> 91%)
@mintteafresh5558
@mintteafresh5558 Жыл бұрын
​@@AbyssArray The issue is that none of the Pokémon with Compound Eyes can learn Focus Blast, unfortunately
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray Жыл бұрын
@@mintteafresh5558 I mean, I'm just looking at the ability alone. A lot of Pokemon who do get it have access to other 70% moves (Thunder for Galvantula, Hurricane for Butterfree and Vivillon.. they both also get Sleep Powder which is 75% -> 97.5%)
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 Жыл бұрын
​@@mintteafresh5558 this is not how the list was done, they judged the abilities on their own, meaning a Pokémon could have it So they are wrong on this one, Compound Eyes is probably mid A
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 Жыл бұрын
​@@AbyssArray you are right on this
@remington238
@remington238 Жыл бұрын
Overcoat also blocks powder moves, so basically spore immunity so i'd bump it around C
@Ajmeade78
@Ajmeade78 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention many of its mons are bulky steel type like foretress whos overcoat allows it to he basically impossible to shut down before doing its job with anything but fire
@northdakotagamer
@northdakotagamer Жыл бұрын
Aroma Veil works for yourself and not just your allies as of gen 7
@Ace-ym7om
@Ace-ym7om Жыл бұрын
Gorrilla tactics isnt signifuntly worse then adaptibilty cuz it boosts ALL moves and not just ur stab types, gorilla tactics shouldve been Low S or High A+
@naptotal1651
@naptotal1651 Жыл бұрын
Additionally your stab moves become 2.25x power not 2x
@connivingkhajiit
@connivingkhajiit Жыл бұрын
@@naptotal1651 yeah straight up better in most cases cause you get a free choice item on top as well since youre already gonna be locked. Exactly why darmanitan-g got banned
@Ace-ym7om
@Ace-ym7om Жыл бұрын
@@connivingkhajiit downside for adaptability is that u dont get a 1.5x boost on all moves and downside of gorilla tactics is that u are locked in 1 move but u can then just use a choice item (which most adaptability mons do) like crawdaunt uses choice band always for example
@OneMoreDesu
@OneMoreDesu Жыл бұрын
My boy Komala has this special interaction where sometimes, if someone uses Thunder Wave into Comatose twice in a row they have a chance to instantly surrender.
@anujsingh333
@anujsingh333 Жыл бұрын
Okay fine, I'll start doing my homework after one more Nathan vid
@northdakotagamer
@northdakotagamer Жыл бұрын
Dancer is worse than Opportunist but it does copy a few moves that Opportunist doesn’t such as Aqua Step (the attacking part), Revelation Dance, and Teeter Dance
@FroyoMNS
@FroyoMNS Жыл бұрын
Primordial Sea and Desolate Land end as soon as the Primal Groudon/Kyogre switches out, so unlike Drought and Drizzle you can’t teambuild around their weather. I think Primordial Sea is straight-up worse than Drizzle, while the two Sun abilities could go either way.
@sla7889
@sla7889 Жыл бұрын
Thing is, even though the weather ceases after the Pokémon switches, the weather control is really insane, since there’s no way of changing it with other weather abilities
@connivingkhajiit
@connivingkhajiit Жыл бұрын
@@sla7889 plus it prevents antisynergy of using say a fire type on the team
@IDWpresents
@IDWpresents Жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is that immunities are really powerful, and regular sun and rain don't grant you any immunities.
@yeasstt
@yeasstt Жыл бұрын
If we're judging it in a vacuum, Primordial Sea is absolutely better than Drizzle. The ability to override Desolate Land is fantastic, and an immunity to fire is useful. Imagine a steel type with Primordial Sea and a decently strong water move. That pokemon would now have 10 resistances and 2 immunities. It would only be weak to two types, one of which is threatened by rain-boosted water moves.
@Minetube13
@Minetube13 Жыл бұрын
Curious Medicine only works on your partner in doubles. Its completely useless in singles.
@babybababofski7908
@babybababofski7908 Жыл бұрын
Aroma veil is definitely not useless a defensive mon being immune to taunt and encore is pretty huge. It's really weird to me to put below anger point which will very rarely trigger since usually if you get crit you die.
@leavemealone8534
@leavemealone8534 Жыл бұрын
They thought it didn’t work in singles lol
@probablemente_sebas6612
@probablemente_sebas6612 Жыл бұрын
I have seen anger point fire Tauros be an amazing answer to Meowscarada, it is situational but when it works it goes HARD.
@6purdicorn7
@6purdicorn7 Жыл бұрын
Koraidon and Miraidon don't just boost their attacks for that specific weather, it's just a free life orb tier boost on top of the terrain/weather
@jmcbango
@jmcbango Жыл бұрын
Something they missed about dancer: it also copies dancing attacks. Meaning that if you switch in on an opposing revelation dance or petal dance etc, you get to attack the same turn you switch in (or you get 2 attacks in 1 turn if youre already in and tank the hit!). This is big in NU rn where the oricorio forms are running the tier
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 Жыл бұрын
One factor I didn't hear being mentioned was competition. For example there are SO many users of Intimidate. So if we are assessing how strong the Ability is based on if a random new Pokemon got it, an Intimidate user is probably not going to be as viable as it would be if there weren't as already other good users of the Ability. A Pokemon with an Ability that is on paper not as good, but barely anything has it, is perhaps more likely to be able to carve out a niche somewhere.
@northdakotagamer
@northdakotagamer Жыл бұрын
Imposter would be insane on Blissey because HP (and friendship) is the only stat you keep when you transform with Imposter or Transform
@mb778_
@mb778_ Жыл бұрын
It's so good that it's the focal point of Balanced Hackmons.
@jmcbango
@jmcbango Жыл бұрын
Apparently you also keep eviolite boosts, which makes chansey the best imposter mon
@yeasstt
@yeasstt Жыл бұрын
@@jmcbango Choice Scarf Blissey can be better in certain cases. If you switch in on a +2 Attack sweeper, Scarf gives you the speed advantage which essentially lets you counter-sweep the opponent's team. Very good if your opponent is setting up Stored Power
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 Жыл бұрын
Chlorophyll, Sand Rush, Swift Swim, and Slush Rush are also different from most other “situational” abilities because the situation in which it occurs is directly linked to an effect that *YOU* can control. So you can build whole teams around activating this situational effect, and it works especially because there is usually synergy between the effect of the weather and the ability (water-type attack boost and speed boost at the same time). Compare this to stuff like the relatively good Bulletproof and the bad Anger Point, where it’s *your opponent’s sets* and *luck* which determines their activation trigger respectively
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
It’s good until you MU against separate opposing weather
@owenreel3916
@owenreel3916 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the chapters made me really think there was a huge 2 hour Weatherball argument that ended in both of you walking away
@zacharyyoungblood7013
@zacharyyoungblood7013 Жыл бұрын
Idk if they changed it, but you don't need allies for steely spirit to work, it still boosts your steel type moves by 50% and is actually a really good ability in ZU
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss Жыл бұрын
That is correct, it effects the mons whole side, not just the allies.
@dragonslayerz2220
@dragonslayerz2220 Жыл бұрын
@@PersonOfRandomnesss Then it's in the same place as steelworker, which does the same thing for it's user.
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss Жыл бұрын
@@dragonslayerz2220 That is correct. There's a few abilities that they mix up if it affects the user or not, which changes things up.
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
@@dragonslayerz2220 not necessarily. Perserker gets the 1.5x on top of it already being stab. Having a third stab is arguably just as good tho.
@pabloarammasmanian5391
@pabloarammasmanian5391 Жыл бұрын
Water compaction doesn't make you inmune to water. Only increase your defence
@JoeSmith-xp5ll
@JoeSmith-xp5ll Жыл бұрын
Fun fact - Armour Tail protects your teammate, too!
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 Жыл бұрын
So do Dazzling and Queenly Majesty
@superblueknight
@superblueknight Жыл бұрын
I thought aura break didn't act as a dark and fairy resistance and only reversed the effects of dark and fairy aura, although it may have been updated. Quick feet also does remove the paralysis speed drop, increasing your speed by 1.5 times.
@greenheroes
@greenheroes Жыл бұрын
you still get the odds of being fully paralyzed, and no way to set-up that paralysis reliably... even if it doesn't have to be that status
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss Жыл бұрын
You're right with Aura break, only reversing those two abilities
@ZacSonicMee
@ZacSonicMee Жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious that, as someone who hasn't played gen 9 yet, whenever I started hearing the cud chew line I could only think of/hear cubchoo so I was so confused on whether Cubchoo had some surprisingly solid ability and had to rewind lol.
@Spark31Gaming
@Spark31Gaming Жыл бұрын
There's some pretty funny abilities to get wrong, especially since some of the abilities in the useless tier effect the teammate and itself. Notably I think flower gift and aroma veil are better. +1 attack and sp.def in sun is just better protosynthesis a lot of the time, and being immune to taunt with Aroma veil is nice.
@cyrusgronk9316
@cyrusgronk9316 Жыл бұрын
I feel like you might've forgotten that quark drive is activated in electric terrain. Given that I thought electric surge and hadron engine would be higher because they would be boosting all the future paradox mons which theres at least 3 viable users in OU right now. Curious to whether you knew or not and if that would change your placement of them. Love a 3 hour vid.
@sla7889
@sla7889 Жыл бұрын
They were considering the abilities in a vacuum
@cyrusgronk9316
@cyrusgronk9316 Жыл бұрын
@@sla7889 Can't do that in Pokemon and they didn't either really. In a vacuum chlorophyll is a useless ability.
@sla7889
@sla7889 Жыл бұрын
@@cyrusgronk9316 As vacuum as possible
@tales9342
@tales9342 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure delta stream just removes all flying weaknesses so that makes it slightly better, it doesn’t remove stealth rock weakness tho
@benbroomhead7083
@benbroomhead7083 Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid, love it!
@snark6747
@snark6747 Жыл бұрын
spending 3 hours ranking every ability? braver than any US marine. Really entertaining video though, gave me some good enjoyment while hatching eggs and I found the discussions around ability comparisons rather engaging. I got some thoughts that I'll put below, but with ranking 300 abilities yall put in all the work and it's easier for me to watch and give feedback than make a whole tier list so huge props to you for undertaking that task (and thanks for giving me some fun things to think on). Main thoughts: Transistor/Dragon's Maw imo should be closer to Adaptability, as while it's single type, they provide a stronger boost. Transistor/Dragon's Maw work mechanically by multiplying your (Special) Attack stat by 50% when using an Electric/Dragon move. It's definitively better than Rocky Payload and the like, and the raw strength of the single type pushes it to around Adaptability tier for me. Calcs for comparison: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Transistor Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 177-208 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Adaptability Regieleki Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey: 158-186 (22.1 - 26%) -- 5.9% chance to 4HKO I think Comatose is a hard ability to rank, as it's either solid or game breaking. You mostly analyzed it through the lens of preventing status, which makes sense if you primarily main tiers like OU (no shade); however, given the right tools it's absurd and has been banned in BH since gen 7 because of this. The crux is that Comatose lets you use Sleep Talk at any time, which normally sounds useless, except Sleep Talk ignores the priority bracket of moves it calls. So a fast Comatose user with phazing (Deoxys-Speed was the primary abuser in BH) is able to continuously shuffle the opponents team, forcing hazard chip, without letting the opponent attack. This is obviously incredibly unhealthy. I'd say it puts Comatose into game breaking, but due to the specific move/stat requirements, I could see that pulling it down from there. I'd still put it at least in A+, right below Prankster since Prankster also has the caveat of move pool but less stat requirements. Minor thoughts: Rivalry also does 25% lower damage against Pokemon of the opposite gender, so I'd say it's even more shaky and probably sub-Cud Chew. Misty Terrain also doesn't buff Fairy type moves, only debuffs dragon type moves. I'd probably place it below Psychic Surge because of the offensive utility of Psychic Terrain but I think that's a real minor point and Misty Terrain is still hella good defensively. And lastly, I'd bump Solar Power over the Cud Chew line and past Sand Force because while you do still take chip, Solar Power is a stronger buff, being a 50% Special Attack buff while Sand Force is a 30% buff to Rock, Ground, and Steel type moves. Solar Power is stronger across all moves, while Sand Force is weaker and narrower but no downsides.
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
Solar power has a downside, plus it is limited only to special moves. Sand force has no downsides and can boost special or physical moves. Even though sand force is only currently distributed to physical attackers, I could see it as an interesting way to support a special attacking rock type that otherwise would just suffer under bad move syndrome.
@emmetstanevich2121
@emmetstanevich2121 Жыл бұрын
@@glumreaper8885 *Technically speaking,* Gastrodon has Sand Force, although I can't really see it giving up Storm Drain.
@jasonha4489
@jasonha4489 Жыл бұрын
That Anticipation point by finch Yea if you're finch you should know that this Garchomp CAN run Fire Blast, but knowing that a Pokemon is running coverage can tell you a lot, especially since you don't have to guess/switch around to figure it out Especially in some cases where knowing a Pokemon's move can literally tell you it's EVs
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised finch went with that take. For gigabrains, any information helps piece together the opponent's sets and helps you deconstruct their team. However, also on the flip side, most sets in top tournament play are the same iterations of 3 or 4 solved sets with little up for question. I'd say anticipation helps you make faster reads in ladder play but it would have next to no use in high level tournaments because they don't really deviate into sets you couldn't deconstruct with other info anyway. For example, Garchomp on a team with a Zapdos or Magnezone probably just isn't running Fire Blast though if it could. That Garchomp is most likely rocks with helmet or leftovers. But if the team is otherwise turbowalled by Corvi, then fire blast is pretty obvious. Finch would know about the Garchomp's coverage moves just by looking at it in context.
@jasoncole1833
@jasoncole1833 Жыл бұрын
i cant tell if they realized that adaptability only gives a 4/3 (1.333)x boost to your damage and not a 3/2 (1.5)x boost
@glumreaper8885
@glumreaper8885 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it. I was surprised that Adaptability was given an instant S rank without hesitation, but Beads/Sword of Ruin is basically just adaptability but includes the buff for coverage moves too. The interesting thing is that -ate abilities is also just literally a 4/3 boost but to normal moves. It might help shore up bad move syndrome (in the case of aerialiate or physical galvanize) but otherwise, refrigerate or pixilate usage is just a downside compared to adaptability because it forces you to run moves that don't have a secondary effect.
@jasoncole1833
@jasoncole1833 Жыл бұрын
@@glumreaper8885 -ate abilities are 1.2x at base so running for example glaciate hyper voice over ice beam is basically a weaker sheer force. I can’t remember where swords/beads of ruin were placed on the list but considering a lot of mons don’t run stab on both of their types it would make sense for them to be higher if they are. Also my original comment was more in reference to gorilla tactics when they said it was basically adaptability but trading only being used for stab moves to being choice locked but gorilla tactics is a lot stronger
@Ninad3204
@Ninad3204 Жыл бұрын
Dancer also copies Aqua step, fiery dance and ofc revelation dance! So you can attack twice, but its situational.
@Princecharisma111
@Princecharisma111 Жыл бұрын
cute charm is way too high. Legends are often genderless & then what if the mon is the same gender? all on top of that, it’s still a 70% chance nothing happens 😂 and on top of all of that, it’s still a chance the mon could fight through infatuation.
@dantheman5075
@dantheman5075 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, it should have been in better than useless
@jmcbango
@jmcbango Жыл бұрын
Yea he kept saying 50% for gender, but theres so many genderless mons and gender-locked mons, that the odds are really way worse
@M4x_P0w3r
@M4x_P0w3r Жыл бұрын
@@jmcbango Also, the male/female ratio is skewered towards males too, on average.
@griffin8762
@griffin8762 Жыл бұрын
great vid nathan and finch 👍!!
@DarkraiDrive
@DarkraiDrive Жыл бұрын
Hyped for this video
@falcokid94
@falcokid94 Жыл бұрын
My only nitpick is a bunch of the "type does more damage" abilities (transistor, dragon's maw, rocky payload, steelworker) which are a 1.5 boost were compared to dark aura, a 1.33 boost. Imo all of those should have been strictly better.
@kennethxu1789
@kennethxu1789 Жыл бұрын
Last i checked rivalry made you do x.75 to opposite gender, making it situational at best and closer to useless
@PersonOfRandomnesss
@PersonOfRandomnesss Жыл бұрын
Situational at best and worse than useless at worse
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 Жыл бұрын
Delta Stream has a disadvantage compared to Air Lock: it can be overridden by Primordeal Sea and Desolate Land.
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 Жыл бұрын
And Flower Gift and Flower Veil got put into useless but they both work in singles as both effect the user as well as its allies. In fact Flower Veil could be pretty amazing on a Grass type but no Grass Pokemon get it.
@jeddgangman4502
@jeddgangman4502 7 ай бұрын
Isn’t it the opposite primordial Sea desolate land override airlock but Delta stream always triumphs over those two
@FunandStuff88
@FunandStuff88 Жыл бұрын
Is corrosion really that good? It lets you poison two more types, which is good for spreading toxic more easily. But it does nothing against abilities that prevent status or guts Pokémon. Like, how many Pokémon would become broken if they had just one totally free turn to set up with disguise? Would you give that up to toxic a handful more Pokémon? Plus this is a gen 9 list, so really only poison types can use toxic now. It’s not chansey poisoning stuff.
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer Жыл бұрын
The list assumes each ability can be put on any pokemon as i recall correctly. Being able to toxic every pokemon type is powerful.
@M4x_P0w3r
@M4x_P0w3r Жыл бұрын
@@Rhy2412TitanGamer But as of gen 8, most pokemon can't even learn toxic anymore. So it becomes pretty useless as regular poison is probably the weakest status condition.
@lordmew5
@lordmew5 Жыл бұрын
​@@M4x_P0w3r I would say in that case we would assume it in a national dexter situation where you can transfer mons as they are.
@roidadadou5456
@roidadadou5456 Жыл бұрын
Did this a long time ago, it’s sweet that it got updated! Abilities bring such interestinf takes to the table, when taken in a vacuum. Think Imposter was quite underrated here. Could you place the tierlist in the desc? I got it on my own, but would be nice for other people to get a cool access to it 🙂
@allthingsinvestingandfinance
@allthingsinvestingandfinance 6 күн бұрын
lol great video watched the whole thing
@rocketdoggie6441
@rocketdoggie6441 Жыл бұрын
Super fun video to listen to and super informational. Biggest critique was infernape not being the blaze rep lol.
@Thatguy-un4yq
@Thatguy-un4yq Жыл бұрын
rivalry also makes you deal less damage to mons of the opposite gender and bonk yourself harder in confusion so in conclusion it does not clear the cud chew line imo
@northdakotagamer
@northdakotagamer Жыл бұрын
Several abilities such as Inner Focus and Own Tempo had an Intimidate immunity added on to them in gen 8 making them still probably not clear Cud Chew but a bit better than you stated
@kylehendricksilveralvin5376
@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 Жыл бұрын
Overcoat not only gives you an immunity to weather damage, you also become immune to powder moves, which is great for switching into stuff like Amoongus and Tangrowth
@markrenton6174
@markrenton6174 Жыл бұрын
Just saying, if Garganacl had good as gold, it would get poisoned by spikes, poison touch, poison point, and burnt with flame body. Is gholdengo's typing what keeps it safe from tspikes. Purifying salt directly prevents getting any status, no nuzzles, flame bodies, effect spores nor poison touches, toxic/flame orb trading... I prefer it above good as gold in AAA since mostly it's only better to prevent defog (which can activate defiant/competitive and a scrappy rapid spinner never fails to clear hazards, plus that speed buff to urself) and the highly situational black sludge trick/switcheroo
@markrenton6174
@markrenton6174 Жыл бұрын
I was very curious and doubtful, so i had to test the solar power OHKO theory and in practice i doubt it happens, it can but it needs the toxapex to have no HP and no SpDef EVs for it to OHKO (~125% damage in that case). Of course taking modest charizard, under sun, using overheat with choice specs, fire blast has 37.5% chance to OHKO, flamethrower as max can do 86% damage. Now in a physical toxapex with HP and Def EVs no SpDef... well i copypaste results: 252+ SpA Choice Specs Solar Power Charizard Overheat vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Toxapex in Sun: 256-302 (84.2 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO Aaalmost, but doesn't OHKO any normal toxapex, which will either have max HP, SpDef or both depending which type of wall, but even physical wall survives 1 overheat. Fire Blast does 71-84%, Flamethrower does 58-68%, but it has to be modest and usually they run timid for max speed, in which case Overheat does 76-90% to physical wall toxapex, then counting the stat drops, protect and the leftovers heal, it never kills it and wastes its overheats/fireblasts, so you can try test to hurt it a lot or kill it if has no protect or leftovers, but if not, switch.
@willgrubb4049
@willgrubb4049 Жыл бұрын
I've never really thought about the ability Cud Chew before this video
@inaridefucc8904
@inaridefucc8904 Жыл бұрын
saw all of it, you have great chemistry
@BenHazel007
@BenHazel007 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry, you're boyfriend didn't cross the cud chew line and now he's in C tier
@holyspork6626
@holyspork6626 Жыл бұрын
Based on the time stamps the weatherball argument must be heated 😂
@cambalache9139
@cambalache9139 Жыл бұрын
Banger video
@Timeflow_X
@Timeflow_X Жыл бұрын
technically this would need to be split into 190 youtube shorts each just under a minute long
@joeydis
@joeydis Жыл бұрын
Sad to see Nathan sold out to Big Stall… Super cool collab tho, excited to watch this through
@letran879
@letran879 Жыл бұрын
Could you explain? I don't get why Stall would be game breaking. Unless it's a joke
@joeydis
@joeydis Жыл бұрын
@@letran879 i’m jk. there’s a running joke (that’s unfortunately believed in earnest by some) that the ou council loves stall, and finch is head of the OU council so people heavily associate him with the play style. Afaik stall has not been consistently good for a while
@lordnatu
@lordnatu Жыл бұрын
You missed that it said that Dry Skin only increases fire type damage by 25%, and it has done that since Gen 4
@btu1734
@btu1734 Жыл бұрын
Geez that was a ride lol. I will say, Miraidon and Koraidon don’t just boost the attack/spa. Atk when using electric or fire moves respectively. It is a flat boost to their offensive stats. Koraidon is +atk and Miraidon is +spa. Atk. I wanna say it’s 1.3x, it might be 1.5x tho tbh idk for sure. If you ask me, this is probably game breaking. Especially when you consider Sun being so good rn and electric terrain also being really good bc of quark drive mons
@jmcbango
@jmcbango Жыл бұрын
It is 1.3. Basically a free life orb on top of the boost to fire/electric
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys rly interessting vid worth a sub for sure. If i could ask for one thing: Is it possible to show the description of the abilitie u talking about on screen? Cause honestly i don't know every single one just by name, would've made for a far more convinient experience. Still looking forward for more great content in the future.
@Anthem34
@Anthem34 Жыл бұрын
this just reminds me that last year, instead of paying attention in class, i took a sporcle quiz on every ability and at one point remembered every single one by name and effect
@patrickburton1401
@patrickburton1401 Жыл бұрын
I thought I did until flare boost or whatever the special version of guts was mentioned. Had no idea that was a thing.
@Wurry25
@Wurry25 Жыл бұрын
This is wild
@lobster1562
@lobster1562 Жыл бұрын
There should be another tier called ‘depends on opponent’. Then there would be abilities that need the opponent to do something, like armor tail
@joeydis
@joeydis Жыл бұрын
Isn’t curious medicine useless in singles?
@mrboost4186
@mrboost4186 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, it only affects allies
@cutthroat795
@cutthroat795 Жыл бұрын
Something to consider about aura break is that it only inverts the effect of Xerneas/Yveltals abilities. If they aren’t on the field, it does nothing. Meaning it’s extremely situational.
@bupkis324
@bupkis324 Жыл бұрын
innards out is banned in aaa and bh lmao basically it's a final gambit destiny bond - does damage equal to hp had before fainting. while io isn't crazy on a 55 base hp slug, slap it on high hp mons (ex. a defenseless chansey), switch it into even a weak move, and pick up a potentially game-winning free kill, no risk or skill required. def at least a, overall better than nerfed protean imo anyways, great vid as always!
@kachowabunga17
@kachowabunga17 Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the video but I disagree with literally every single thing you said and also every single thought that entered your head
@christianbell8347
@christianbell8347 2 ай бұрын
Based. I agree, this video sucks.
@EggscellentTree
@EggscellentTree Жыл бұрын
Quick feet actually does ignore speed drop of paralysis. Rivalry decreases damage to opposite gender.
@tomatoactual1340
@tomatoactual1340 Жыл бұрын
thank you nathan enjoyer of chicken for 3 whole hours of content but id argue that flash fire beats volt absorb since electric already has a ton of pokemon that are immune unlike fire where with boosts sun or choice items a fire pokemon can bulldoze through a team regardless of type effectiveness and having that immunity is very useful and is why heatran is so prevalent and can destroy the rona
@yujirohamna2430
@yujirohamna2430 Жыл бұрын
Also inner focus is actually pretty good because it ignores intimidate now.
@leavemealone8534
@leavemealone8534 Жыл бұрын
Dancer can copy stuff like revaluation dance and aqua step among a few other moves, not the same as opportunist. Dry skin also is only a 25% increase to fire type moves, and rain is usually better than sun so idk
@jschmidty2332
@jschmidty2332 Жыл бұрын
Rivalry doesn't just boost your damage against the same gender, it also reduces your damage against the opposite gender. So 50% of the time it's a buff and 50% of the time it's a nerf.
@lordmudkip7344
@lordmudkip7344 Жыл бұрын
It depends on the meta. Lando for example is always male and it's like, always in OU. Rivalry was used in VGC 2012 for example, because of Lando and his friends. Ray Rizzo used an all female team (when possible) to counter that.
@kylehendricksilveralvin5376
@kylehendricksilveralvin5376 Жыл бұрын
I don't get how Ice Face is not an A tier ability, yes, it doesn't block special attacks, but it can be regained and (as far as I remember) doesn't give you any HP penalty for being used multiple times (unlike Disguise which is single use only)
@doozsromhacks
@doozsromhacks Жыл бұрын
12:59, aura break just reverses the effects of dark/fairy aura. essentially, it only works if you're fighting xerneas or yveltal. so it'd go in better than useless tier, or at BEST, situational. it doesn't just outright reduce fairy/dark damage lol
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 Жыл бұрын
Corrosion that high is kinda crazy. Cause im considering the opportunity cost of “well my toxics poison everyone” vs alot of the other abilities.
@lordradiance2530
@lordradiance2530 Жыл бұрын
I also feel like were undervaluing gorilla tactics quite a bit. On paper, yeah your choice locked, but in practice, 100/100 times you will also run another choice item. We ran this same logic with sheer force and magic guard, so why not gorilla tactics. That ability is the biggest reason why darm got banned. It couldve been any decently fast decently strong physical attacker and it would have gotten banned. I would definitely call it S
@icykuikinu300
@icykuikinu300 Жыл бұрын
Gonna mention things I think would actually influence tiers Adaptability vs abilities like aerialate - I think adaptability is better since it just turns all your stab moves into essentially super effective hits, which would benefit pretty much every pokemon. On the flip side, not every pokemon wants Aerialate (for instance Dragonite would be more than happy having Aerialate b/c extreme speed, but Garchomp would not.) It's definitely harder to use abilities like aerialate despite the changed normal type move getting increased in power to a 1.8 stab for the new type, which is still worse than adaptability's 2.0 stab. Infatuation - the chance of a failed attack is 50%, but the activation of Cute Charm's effect is only 30%. I might be crazy but I think Corrosion is a bit overrated, mainly since you're only going to be inflicting poison or toxic on steel pokemon and poison, with poison being far less common in general. That and, with gen 9 especially, the more relevant pokemon want to take you out as fast as possible with their huge power levels, so poison wouldn't amount to much on average besides taking advantage of venoshock (though it would definitely be good against Dondozo, but you can poison it without Corrosion). Definitely good, but I think it'd be more in A rather than A+. Curious medicine is an ally specific ability, it clears stat changes of your ally, not all the pokemon on the field. Flower gift includes the user, which makes it much more useful. Same applies to Steely Spirit. Merciless has a similar deal to Corrosion to me, but I think it's better than Corrosion to be honest. A guaranteed crit on a pokemon that's poisoned seems busted. Less useful in gen 9 since toxic was removed from a good number of pokemon, but considering almost every pokemon got toxic before gen 9, having a guaranteed crit + toxic is absolutely crazy. The only drawback is that it doesn't work on steel or poison type pokemon, but that's still 16 other types you can get guaranteed crits on, which I think is better than being able to poison steel and poison types imo Oblivious is a bit underrated, definitely situational since it also has the ability to block the effects of taunt and intimidate (so Landorous T and Incineroar now have a counter). And applies to Own Tempo. Overcoat can also block powder moves, which prevents the use of spore as an example (Also rage powder but that's for doubles). Special distinction about Well-Baked Body, gives the pokemon a fire immunity AND increases defense sharply. Wonder Guard should absolutely be in game breaking. Any bulky pokemon or one that can learn burn up, need I say more? I hope with all these things I can clear the cud chew line ;u; But seriously, this is a really well made video! Kudos to you for putting in all this time and effort for this list!
@Gumfondle
@Gumfondle Жыл бұрын
finchinator try not to interrupt nathan when he’s talking challenge
@doozsromhacks
@doozsromhacks Жыл бұрын
28:00 costar isn't just a doubles ability. it copies a boost so if you swap them in on swords dance you get +2 atk, etc. it'd go C situational fs
@mbot1901
@mbot1901 Жыл бұрын
I think a concept that you guys were hitting on all video was for situational abilities and why you just had a gut feeling that some were better than others. The way I see it, situational abilities can be divided into 2 categories: situation in my control and situational out of my control. This is why I think stuff like chlorophyl and berserk are better than anger point and cloud 9; the first two are in your control as the player, you can build around these abilities and make them useful, whereas the latter two are entirely in the opponents control. You can't at all guarantee that your opponent will crit you or that they'll have a weather team, but you can greatly increase the odds that you will have sun up or that you'll go down to berserk range.
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 Жыл бұрын
Aura Break only comes into effect on Dark Aura and Fairy Aura, so it’s actually super useless
@dazzleneal
@dazzleneal Жыл бұрын
Time for another 3 hours vid that i will watch in 1.5x
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 Жыл бұрын
I feel like if berserk is B, anger shell is also B. Same condition needs to be met to trigger it but it gives speed at attack while lowering defenses. It’s about the same if not better
@danothebananovitch9678
@danothebananovitch9678 Жыл бұрын
Actually Klutz does have some utility in tricking a choice item right after already having used one or more other moves because you don't lock yourself in one move.
@waves5249
@waves5249 Жыл бұрын
Oblivios doesn't just prevent attaction, it also prevents the attack drop from intimidate. And more importantly gives the mon taunt immunity, which should be enough to at least clear the cud chew line
@mintx1720
@mintx1720 Жыл бұрын
Anger Shell: Situational Berserk: Solid yeah right
@JojishiAMVs
@JojishiAMVs Жыл бұрын
Harvest should definitely be higher up in the list. Not only does it help prolong the time a pokemon can be out on the field, but there are many strategies build around it and the interaction with sun, giving it a guarenteed harvest trigger. This combined with a salac berry and a boosting move/substitute combo makes some pokemon extremely scary if you don't deal with them quickly, especially in the lower tiers of play.
@yujirohamna2430
@yujirohamna2430 Жыл бұрын
Also Libero I would argue is an A ability simply because it's mono type. So it can actually get some usage out of it before it changes it's type.
@randomized1420
@randomized1420 Жыл бұрын
Im not sure if you readdress this but curse body can trigger even on non contact moves.
@lagspike7763
@lagspike7763 Жыл бұрын
Finchinator boutta put regenerator prankster magic bounce unaware at the top we already know this story
@doozsromhacks
@doozsromhacks Жыл бұрын
11:50, aroma veil also prevents the user from being disabled/encored/taunted etc. Not just allies. So it'd go in C situational.
@micahsimmons5903
@micahsimmons5903 Жыл бұрын
Gonna take me at least 4 days to get thru this whole thing but IM NOT SKIPPING ANY OF IT
@EnNaifu
@EnNaifu Жыл бұрын
fking dedication
@klhx
@klhx Жыл бұрын
Love this, just wish there was ability definitions
@_zoeloft
@_zoeloft Жыл бұрын
Opportunist is constantly active not just on switch in, it means if anything sets up in front of you it also gives you the boosts
@matejlieskovsky9625
@matejlieskovsky9625 Жыл бұрын
Yes, but their point was that no one would try setting up on an opportunist pokemon, so most of the boosts you will get will be on switch in.
@divinemallow
@divinemallow Жыл бұрын
Delta stream doesn’t reduce rock and ice type moves, it completely removes all flying type weaknesses. Making ice and rock neutral and electric moves resistant on mega ray but would be neutral on any other Pokémon if they possibly were to be another Pokémon what it
@mbot1901
@mbot1901 Жыл бұрын
About overcoat, it also protects you from powder moves including spore, so personally i would put it near bullet proof but maybe lower since they do very similar things
@vivianbombycilla9142
@vivianbombycilla9142 Жыл бұрын
2:45:40 cud chew's really the epitome of situational in a bad way, like ur gonna struggle to proc it most games, and it's gonna struggle to help u very much, use it on liechi or salac? good luck surviving, use it on sitrus? that's a worse and slower cheek pouch and u dont have an item anymore... maybe itd be good in LC with oran berry? lol
@RebelTrooperHoth
@RebelTrooperHoth Жыл бұрын
I would buy a “do you clear the cud-chew line” shirt if it had legal distinct Paldaen Tauros and Farigiraf
@MichaelKalonikos
@MichaelKalonikos Жыл бұрын
Does it clear the cud chew line?
@wackywacko808
@wackywacko808 Жыл бұрын
I'm only a 3rd of the way through when typing this but I think Ice Face is an A ability because its an immunity against a physical attack but it isn't a 1 time use as stated in the video. If you switch out it will restore it and hail will restore that form too.
@LewisBavin
@LewisBavin Жыл бұрын
It does not restore it if you switch out, only if you switch back in when it's hailing/set up hail while you're in
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