Ranking EVERY MYTH UNIT in Age of Mythology: Retold

[@AmonsChallenges]

Disclaimer: This is the tier list after one playthrought of all campaigns. Obviously I played with some of the units more than with the others so the tiers for some of them might be different on my next playthrough, but generally this is how I feel right now after doing 49 campaign missions on titan.

[@TheRealMrWolf]

Yeah, it's pretty hard to get them right after one playthrough. So many new mechanics though, that's so cool! But it turns out that when playing against people, Anubites and Serpents for example are what makes Set and Isis so strong (Set is easily at leasst top 2, if not top 1). They're extremely powerful, as Anubites level up through the ages and can attack backline / villagers and Serpents can win basically any fight, especially early or in water - and are repeatable.

[@marvinvasquez9437]

You know the Egyptian faction have a titan unit of their own?

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@marvinvasquez9437 Yeah, but the titans feel kinda the same so everything I said for the Greek one goes for the Egyptian one (and the others as well)

[@marvinvasquez9437]

@@AmonsChallenges I hope the developers would redevelop the 3rd expansion called tale of the dragon, set in the far East of imperial China 🇨🇳

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@marvinvasquez9437 With the good work they did on the new game I would definitely say this is a possilibity

[@maxwallace9491]

The good thing about the Dryads is they don't cost pop, so while they aren't "good" per-se, they are free in terms of army composition.

[@chadmichael1218]

I agree plus I always have too much wood so might as well use it up on collateral units. I usually use them in the front to die on purpose or I send them to counter villagers while the actual Army attacks.

[@matthiasvandekerkhove3594]

@@chadmichael1218 I also use them in front, as a distraction.

[@jaredmoore3825]

Myth Units: Greek: Starts Strong, then meh, then Colossus is Great. Egyptian: Mix bag of cats Norse: Starts good, gets stronger every age. Atlantan: Whole bunch of junk, then you get the 6 armed Dude 😎

[@AmonsChallenges]

That about summarizes my 30 minute video hahaha

[@horakhty2217]

Some additional changes for people who are curious; Now with each age your previous myth units also get empowered so they are still usable to some extent, Wadjet no longer regenerates it's health, Sphinx now costs gold instead of food, War turtle "buck" ability also stuns boats for a decent amount of time so it is also useful for preventing landings, Mummy now costs wood instead of gold, Mummy special ability now inflicts poison in an area and if any unit dies while poisoned they become minions, Chimera special area is significantly larger now, Serpents are considered animals now so villagers can shoot them with bows, Krakens "boat sinking ability" and "unit throwing ability" now have separate cooldowns (in the original there was only 1 bar and it would deplete when either one is used), Medusa now costs wood instead of gold, Jormund Elver now has a weaker "buck" attack like war turtle. I'm sure there are more but I noticed these ones so far. edit: Good luck on the new challenge

[@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH]

Wadjet going from one of the worst Myth-units to an even worse Myth-unit sure is an interesting direction to take it...

[@horakhty2217]

Yeahh at least the old version was able to do serious damage when massed with some meat shield in front. New one seems to be only good in little skirmishes since poison is not that good if you are killing the unit before it ticks all the way.

[@Kerchock]

Also no instakill anymore for cyclops, kraken throw, and medusa only instakills at low health.

[@thorveim1174]

can add that the Fenris wolf brood now cost food instead of gold

[@Searchingzzzz]

The tier list is purely his taste, it’s not anything to do with capability

[@Oatskii]

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[@Tyrfx6]

He said that at the start of the

[@wampyrelli]

@@Tyrfx6 he said that about 20 times during the video too :DD

[@DieKao]

So it's useless? Thanks for saving me 30 minutes.

[@ismaelasis9003]

​@@DieKao yes it is

[@WhisperChill]

Lampades weak? Randomly turn enemies into chikens.

[@et34t34fdf]

Hydra is giga-op, grows heads almost instantly, and now regenerates? First thing that will be nerfed, i think.

[@AmonsChallenges]

We should enjoy the few moments we have with her as she is now :D

[@loneirregular1280]

I reallly really love Hydras in their current state

[@et34t34fdf]

@@loneirregular1280 Found the Zeus player. Nothing wrong with that, mind you.

[@wilneravila2372]

They love Greeks and always tends to favor them balance wise. I won’t be surprised if Hydra stays as it is.

[@Skillshot360s]

Didn’t they regenerate in the original too?

[@LJC94512]

Have to disagree with Lampades. Yes she was underwhelming in the original game, but in Retold she is now the only unit with an instant kill. She can transfigure enemy into chickens after researching an upgrade. She at least deserve a higher grading.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Haven't really had that many opportunities to play with her that much, but even with her instakill, she has such low range that it's just not fun to play with her at all... Literally almost feel like she is a melee character and she just requires a bunch of microing to be effective

[@LJC94512]

@@AmonsChallenges OK the insta kill is human units only, but I guess if they really wanna make her useful at least make her insta kill myth units too. I'm happy for one of them being insta kill to justify their existence. It was what the mummy was before

[@manusabu5839]

They are good counter to war elephants

[@kaylercj]

If the onky thing you care about is human insta kills then medusa is right there

[@fabriziocossio]

​@kaylercj Medusa no longer insta kills units, well..unless it has less than 100 /200 health

[@Upsidedowndog27]

Ngl the crocodiles are carrying me through the Egypt part of akantos storyline On the mission where you break into the prison I got like 20 crocodiles as close to the enemy ships as possible and then baited them further that way with a leviathan. Crocodiles absolutely shredded the boats

[@AmonsChallenges]

That prison level is so overtuned man, those boats in particular. There were 5 boats in the original guarding the prison, there are like 30 of them now plus a bunch of leviathans. Unreal tbh Really expecting a nerf for that one

[@sebastianschrader838]

@@AmonsChallenges i mean by that point you should have a full eco going since you’ve destroyed all the troops from the main base. just delete your extra myth units for pop space, build a shit ton of siege and hammer ships and then you can take in it waves. if you run out of gold build market and trade cuz it’s free from raids and there’s plenty of wood. i dont think this mission needs a nerf tbh.

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@sebastianschrader838 What do you mean by eco? I just jump over the fence with Amanra in the beginning and try to sneak myself onto the island and win :D

[@lordflarus]

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE BEST PART ABOUT LEVIATHANS they hold they transport flag in their mouth :)

[@AmonsChallenges]

Hahahahah you're absoultely right, that really is the best part :D

[@landongreen7510]

Sure, Atuomatons are MID. They don't do too much damage. But the ability to revive fallen automatons boosts cost efficency. Not to mention they only cost 90 gold to begin with.

[@jplayah5264]

What I like to do with Automatons is use them in place of infantry. Once you have 20 or 30 of them, they will steamroll enemy armies. Yes, you will take losses, but unlike human soldiers, they can rebuild each other once the fight is over, giving you a ton of momentum to quickly move onto the next fight. This gives you long-term pressure that is very hard for enemies to deal with and come back from once you win a single big fight with them.

[@thorveim1174]

@@jplayah5264 thats why they are a risky choice; they arent really worth their cost out of the box, and they make up for it only if you win a fight and get the chance to repair fallen automatons. Otherwise, youa re better served with another myth unit

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@thorveim1174 It's pretty much why Automatons are bad. They need to win the fight to have their special ability actually matter, their ability doesn't help win you fights. Once they win, you also cannot push because the repairing takes quite a bit of time. Meaning you need to mass them like crazy, which then opens you up to hilarious abuse by Hersirs, Priests and the greek heroes making mince meat out of them. Feel like they just need some in-battle ability that isn't broken but that allows that little push to put the actual battle you need to win in your favour, cuz right now it's a win-more unit since you won the battle wihout help, it just helps steamrolling the next battle (which you still need to win without help).

[@istheworldreal]

Bruh chimaera should be at least B tier, that puddle of fire hits like a truck getting 2 and 3 of those and just let them auto is more than enough to melt group of enemies, more over if they stay there they keep getting burnt at 5:56 you can even see that the skill has 42 divine damage! Caladria still can normal heal too, the burst heal is additional skill that she has Lampedes is a strong support unit since her ability is to give chaos effect on enemy and her upgraded version upgrade her even more since she can turn most unit into chicken and it's permanent (basically 1 hit kill). On her own she definitely suck, but on an army composition she's a nightmare The rest yeah pretty much good tier list!

[@AmonsChallenges]

Dunno man, I'm still not on team chimera hahahah But I will definitely try and give it a try in a next playthrough

[@istheworldreal]

@@AmonsChallenges i learn they deal stupid damage on mission 31, try to mass myrmidon end up getting melted by 3 chimaera flame puddle ability

[@AmonsChallenges]

​@@istheworldreal You see, I didn't have this problem because I cheesed that on in a few minutes with the underworld power hahaha

[@ffarkasm]

I think the chimaera is one of the most cost-efficient myth units in the game (the other one is the fire giant). No utility or smart tactics just raw strenght. Nice damage, nice damage, nice armors. I always considered it's similar to the avenger but even better.

[@SleepyGaming-ie9fb]

"I don't like automatons, so I just give them D-tier?" Wut?

[@AmonsChallenges]

Well if they felt better to play it would have been higher. It's not just about power it's about fun as well

[@SleepyGaming-ie9fb]

@@AmonsChallenges That's not a criteria for a unit tier list. So you would rank an OP unit D tier because you personally don't like it?

[@kenpachizaraki8509]

@SleepyGaming-ie9fb Not that deep it’s his list lol

[@fane18ful]

Can't wait for the deathless runs, those videos were really fun to watch.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Thx man! They might take some time tho, I don't want to play the initial version of the game deathless because there are probably going to be a bunch of patches in the future. Gonna wait for the game to become more stable before my deathless runs.

[@fishraposo7192]

You know you played too much of the atlanteans when you know all the unknown units lol

[@kryskiller666]

The walking woods one: It was weird. You could control the trees in normal games, but not on the campaign for some reason? It was probably an oversight.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Oh rly? Didn't know the campaign was an exception hahah

[@jdatin770]

I could in campaign but not in the original

[@TakumaSamma]

It's like watching myself at 12 talking to my grandad about the game.

[@nyxxose]

5 headed hydras are not as tanky as Collosus’, but the damage they do to human units and structures is INSANE. Only downside is that it takes a while for them to come online, but when they do, you’ll know….

[@AmonsChallenges]

You'll know for sure! hahaha

[@mecha9305]

Bruh putting Walking Woods in B is crazy. Walking Woods is crazy when it comes to building damage. Watch any pro-play of Retold that use Norse Gods. They will all use Walking Woods to attack Town Centers and Fortresses because the numbers+damage does insane work against buildings.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Didn't check their building damage tbh, didn't expect them to have any hahahaha But this is a spawnable unit so I'm kinda hasitant to give it anything more than a B plus they got nerfed in the last patch so there's that

[@SirMorganD]

"I'm gonna leave this one here because it's a plant, and this one here because does a flip" My man, that way of disregarding all coherent stats and just keeping what you feel is right,, that's based, S tier tier.

[@AmonsChallenges]

I can't put everybody with coherent arguments, gotta have some fun in life too :D

[@Pyromaniac77777]

Lotta things sorta skipped over, for example the Serpents god power is ok to use in a pinch on land, but everyone knew the best use was in the water. They can easily turn a naval battle in your favor

[@AmonsChallenges]

Fari enough, maybe I should have at least mentioned them. That being said, I still dislike serpants xD

[@Pyromaniac77777]

@@AmonsChallenges totally, and this was less of a strict ranking and more just vibes so I get that

[@youtube-kit9450]

Naval battles in general are completely unbalanced in AoM. Giving every god of a civ access to the myth unit at least made it not as hilariously lopsided, but carnivora and esp. sea snakes feels like just brutal.

[@JeffEzzyquielCastillo]

thing is cyclops got debuffed in the old version when they hurl enemies it insta kills them but unlike now even a war elephant cant be killed immediately

[@youtube-kit9450]

They removed instakills in general from myth units. But from my experience, Cyclopes got a huge buff because you can actually aim their throw, and instead of not being able to aim and have one Hoplite die, you can micro that Hoplite into 10 Toxotes that all take huge damage instead.

[@vinconssier4224]

great video and great attitude dude!

[@AmonsChallenges]

Thx man!

[@nickv.s125]

imho the Automatons are one of my favorite myth units. When playing as Atlantis, I make them my main force and back them up with a bunch of hero infantry just in case when they face enemy myth units or heroes. And not to mention, they can repair each other and harass the enemy long enough for reinforcements to arrive.

[@ruugyaku5347]

The thing about lampades is using them against groups, and there's actually an advantage in that they turn enemies into chickens.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, the chicken part was somehow omitted by me, sorry for that :(

[@ruugyaku5347]

@@AmonsChallenges Nah, I don't want to dwell on it, I don't think there are any bad units to begin with, it's just about playing with the castes you have. For example, I think Dionysus and Apollo are better than Aphrodite in a direct approach (regenerating hydras are a trump card) but she gives you very good economic upgrades and the Nemean lion, which is not as good as the hydra or Apollo's upgrades, but it's not a bad monster (I love it). I don't like Prometheans, but that's what you have to do if you want the best for Prometheus heroes, you just have to learn to take advantage of them if you make that decision and see how you strengthen them according to the decisions you make in the game; the same with all of them, for example, the Lampades themselves get some advantage from their Titanide with the research that makes mythical creatures heal. That said, in my opinion the best thing you can do with them is to have a good group of 5 to 10 (or more), protected by resistant units or large numbers, and use them preferably against numerous enemies and prevent them from attacking you by micromanaging between moving them and having them attack automatically, they are not made for duels (well, turning into a chicken is instakill) they are made to bring chaos to the enemy ranks, I think they make a good combo with the satyrs.

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@ruugyaku5347 These are all very good points, thx

[@ankyloinc.]

THANK YOU fo including gameplay of the units. There are SOOOOOOO many tierlists, not even specifically AoMr, just in general that do the tier lists, with a voice over. So lame, bland, and boring. THANK YOU for the quality!!!

[@AmonsChallenges]

Really appreciate the compliment

[@SilverScream03]

My video, my taste, my tier list, based on whatever I want. I loved it hahaha

[@AmonsChallenges]

Thx man, glad you enjoyed it!

[@djnefrozhardstylepromotion3527]

Great tier list, I'd suggest trying out a Chimera build tho, the aoe is kinda insane with a few of them, I expected them to be A tier

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah will def try to build more Chimeras, didn't get to play around with them as much because I have an aversion towards them from the first game hahahah

[@benjamincaceres4274]

The giant crabs need a buff and the abilitie to walk in land

[@AmonsChallenges]

That would be so awesome!

[@pearse9116]

Maybe give them the ability to walk on land close to the shore.

[@simounobrien9096]

The fact that its a Crab and yet it cannot go on land is a mystery lol

[@youtube-kit9450]

Iirc, there even is an ability called "amphibious" in the game's code. Karkinos would be perfect to be amphibious, having the insane splash damage aswell. On this tangent, honestly surprised they didn't make the war turtle an actual sea turtle, cuz right now it's iirc a genus that goes both to land and water.

[@CoachJEFF_CG]

I did discover (the hard way) that Carcinos absolutely eats Scylla

[@AmonsChallenges]

To be fair, Scylla with 1 head

[@nemlas85]

nereids worth another point for coolness. shark riding is one of the coolest stupidities I've ever heard.

[@AmonsChallenges]

You are not wrong my friend You are definitely not wrong hahaha

[@Litterbugtaylor]

Anubite in C, that much power for 100 food, in C Mummy in C, a unit that basically disables human units from fighting you or they'll convert them

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah anubite is 100 food, but the favor cost man... That one gets me I did make a mistake with the mummy, should have put her higher

[@igoralcovacampos6570]

Keep making the tierlist of all the dolls, it looks really good

[@AmonsChallenges]

Thx :-)

[@AleXRuja]

the Sphinx feel way less tankier than in the original. I was amazed everytime how quickly they die

[@dr.ludwig8189]

Yeah I tried spamming sphinxes in the first few Egyptian missions and they just got wrecked, even with all their upgrades

[@cr3izien392]

With Roc you can just select units you want to transport and click on him to embark even when he is in the air and he will land automaticaly, then just move him and he will fly up on his own. same for dissembark, just click on that button and he will land on the landing site on his own. You dont have to manualy land him at all.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Ok fair, but it's still a lot more work than it used to be. Or rather it takes longer. It was much cooler when you could just click on a Roc like you would on a StarCraft medivac and people would just freely enter and exit.

[@marzelfranze]

Medusa is op can transform almost everything in stone.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, unfortunately, units with more than like 100 HP can transform back :(

[@dawnblade9126]

The turn to stone is stackable so while it is heavily nerf a group of 3 Medusa can stun large armies

[@prz88]

22:18 do you know that 3 Automatons can easily kill a Collosus? Sleep with that info now

[@AmonsChallenges]

Lol I don't think I will ever be able to sleep again with that info lmao

[@prz88]

@@AmonsChallenges 🤣🤣🤣

[@PabloSa0032]

Great video!!! Very entertaining and useful (I haven't bought the game) hahaha Keep it up

[@AmonsChallenges]

Thanks, appreciate it!

[@rakknoss]

Best nice to see a tier list of everything from s

[@PrimusVitarex]

Honestly it feels like you didn't understand some of the Units .. The Neidre (Sharkrider) is a water myth killer, she used to oneshot every water myth, but haven't tested her in retold. The Lampade is the unly one with insta kill since she can, after upgrade, turn enemys into chickens. The Dryade also recived an later noticeable buff, the more of the trees you have the more of these non pop myths u can have, wich makes it possible to attack the enemy with like 15-20 of these on one site while your main army is on an other side.

[@konstantinoskinnas789]

I mean Nidhogg always sucked. I hope that in this he does not suck even more :(

[@V4N190]

its better, the Dive does divine damage now!

[@angelshadow990]

Sorry to double comment but if you multicast the dryad tree you get an additional five dryads per cast

[@camwardart]

I agree automatons are kind of underwhelming but you should of factored in their death sound, its awesome

[@AmonsChallenges]

You know what... You might be onto something :D

[@thorveim1174]

Yeah the fenris pack buff isnt as meaty as it was before, but on the other hand they do move faster out of the box (maybe end up a roughly the same speed with a full pack, but means losing some doesnt handicap the survivors as much), and are more beefy indeed especially against pierce damage. They are still goddamn pirhanas once in a group against archers or villagers, and able to outrun anything they cant outfight. That, and now they cost food, which is far easier to procure than gold in the lategame they are a part of, meaning spamming/replacing them way easier and less costy, which may be their biggest buff. I think they could still use a SMALL buff somewhere (they are a myth age unit goddammit!), but I think they are in a much better place than they used to.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Agree with you, as a myth age unit they should get at least a little buff. I'll say that they are a bit more legit to play since they don't die this easily anymore.

[@thorveim1174]

@@AmonsChallenges i guess they gotta be cautious with it though since they are both so mobile and cheap to acquire (just a bit more food than an Anubite, who are the poster child of a spammable myth unit, and that food will be available easily since by the myth age you likely already have plenty of farms set up for infinite food). If they got a little too strong I could see them being impossible to deal with in a hands of a skilled player :p Still, I think I would really like them to not be completely out of place in a frontal attack with an army behind them Oh and for extra fun... Mix a group of 8 of them or so with 4 Valkyries if you play as Thor. Valkyries are almost as fast when fully upgraded, and allows the wolves to heal after every raid. That creates a small, nightmarish force for the enemy to deal with that can harass the enemy with very little downtime, and can delete caravans in the blink of an eye while being strong enough to safely deal with small response forces that lack strong heroes (priests are puppy chow) Overall though, Tyr as a whole needs some help. His god power is meh for the tier (kills a few villagers while other powers delete bases), his myth unit only fits in one niche, and his upgrades... Well the huskarl one is nice, the berserk one though is a pale shadow of its former self

[@tobysilder4791]

Putting mummies in the c tier is diabolical 😂

[@hnaf9936]

sphinx shouldve been d tier now, changing to gold really suck especially for ch18

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, the change sux, but it's still cool to have a relatively tanky guy with area of effect damage on tier 2

[@urabraskthedeplorable725]

I think automatons got over-nerfed between Extended edition and Retold- they lost 20% hack armor, so they just fold against decent melee units, and especially melee myth units. Back in the day, I'd often make automatons my frontline, backed up with Termas. That doesn't work now that they have less armor than an unupgraded Murmillo.

[@nathanboyle7573]

In regards to the Phoenix egg thing I've never once had to pay to hatch my Phoenix egg in the Legacy game as well as the Titans DLC

[@nathanboyle7573]

Also the mummy got a huge buff compared to Legacy

[@AmonsChallenges]

I have no idea which version that was which I played, but for sure it had to be paid for and for sure it really pissed me off hahahah The mummy might have gotten a buff, but it also lost its instakill :-(

[@martinzdarsa1924]

In the original game phoenix drops an egg upon death every time and you dont have to pay for it. So he is nerfed in retold.

[@AmonsChallenges]

There may have been multiple changes to the egg in the original then (maybe when titans or extended edition came out), but I am 100% sure that they had to be paid for at some point (and at full price) and it really pissed me off hahaha

[@martinzdarsa1924]

@@AmonsChallenges I thing in titans they chaneged it.

[@bristleback3614]

Well..if colossus appear it's pretty much game over for me

[@emrahagca99]

Cyclops now area damages with his base attack. That's a change :)

[@AmonsChallenges]

You know what... I haven't noticed that, but I guess it does make sense since it has such a huge club hahaha

[@timbarklow5383]

This guy isn't even joking 😂🤣😎. This game looks interesting

[@AgentForest]

Yeah, the Chimera is underwhelming, but it comes with one of the best god powers and more archer upgrades for your Hades build.

[@AmonsChallenges]

True true A decent compensation ineed :D

[@integralinsanity1641]

26:40 A FLYING CTHULU GUY USING A SHIV IS MAD.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, I have no idea what they were thinking with that one tbh :-)

[@typervader]

I defiently disagree with alot of this list, mostly because i think all units have some sort of niche they fill (Expect Carcinos that guy is just bad)

[@skyethemin4922]

As a gaia enjoyer i am gonna have to channel my inner 🤓 to say: Caladrias do in fact heal continuosly, they have the burst heal ability on a cooldown and the continuous heal which they can use at any other point without cooldown.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Hmmm... They have 2 heals? Interesting... Also didn't expect that one tbh. I'm still ok with her being in A tier tho, it's a support unit. A strong as heck support unit, but a support unit nonetheless

[@skyethemin4922]

@@AmonsChallenges yeah, ive personally been loving using them, very powerful support, problem is that they do leave you fairly defenseless in the second age if you go for them but still, solid unit, A tier is good for em

[@grimripper1881]

Ok i really have to say this a group of fire giants are able to take down a titan

[@AmonsChallenges]

Really? I genuinely didn't feel like the titan was that weak that it can lose to a group of those guys. Or that fire giants are that strong that they can take down a titan. Not even sure which one it is hahahah

[@MrLakislazopoulos]

Medusas are more powerful than ever actually. They have 21 range, a powerful range attack, they one shot human units from 21 meters away with their special, and they destroy buildings faster than anything. Clearly the best archer of the game both in dps, range, speed. They destroy both armies and buildings. Just 10 of the is a free win

[@zerohour980]

Valkyrie on b tier is criminal, u build berserkers with valkyries and the berserkers are pretty much immortal

[@AmonsChallenges]

Haven't tried that strat but I will say something I didn't mention in the video and I think I should have - heals stack now... Which does make healers a whole lot more powerful now. And I didn't consider that one when I was ranking the healers

[@zerohour980]

@@AmonsChallenges I give berserkers life leech and build them in bulks, I assign valkyries in big numbers too and put them only on healing duties, berserkers will never die, tank like crazy and destroy everything on their path, its insane and you barely lose units if u do.

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@zerohour980 Interesting strat tbh Sounds really cool hahah

[@nodd6668]

Maybe I missed it but I don't see Son of Osiris in the tier list. I wonder where he would rank?

[@AmonsChallenges]

He is a hero (literally says hero next to his portrait), but would definitely give him an S, I think he even got a buff from the base game and you can even recast the ability to make more of them. So OP tbh

[@ze3934]

Ahh yes the wood person ….*cough* dryad.

[@XXLPIakat]

I would honestly swap Medusa and koloss. Especially since the Kolossus feels incredibly weak for some strange reason, can't even defeat 3 hoplites and a hippokon. At least the Medusa can 1 shot regular units and stun myth units, which is enough when you deal with multiple.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, but the colossus is a supertank who can heal mid combat. True that he does feel a bit weaker than in the original tho. But medusa is just too much of disappointment with the removed instakill on myth units that I just can't bring myself to give her more than a D hahaha

[@XXLPIakat]

@@AmonsChallenges Even the healing is not that great, in the 2nd to last mission I lost a Gold Colossus to 3 hoplites and 1 hippokon, while he was trying to heal himself on a tree. I managed to start eating the 3rd tree before he just died because the damage of the regular units was faster than the healing rate. And my brother complained about how 3 gold colossi are not strong enough to deal with a handful of hoplites. The Medusa also has ranged attack, which makes her automatically much better against anything that isn't anti-range. But the balancing of the other units is also really weird, Herse heroes are weaker than I remember, 8 of them can't even beat 2 frost giants and 1 mountain giant.

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@XXLPIakat I'm pretty sure they will fix the balancing at some point for a bunch of these units. The game just came out, I'm sure the next patch is gonna make things at least a bit better

[@josephdecastro577]

I was with you until you put automatons at D tier. I personally don’t use them but if you put a bunch of them together, have the ability that allows your myth units to heal, and plant down the Hesperides tree they’re almost unkillable.

[@0o0RoyaLCukY0o0]

Lampades look worse than unupgraded infantry unit

[@Tomil4444]

sounds like kael thas (blood mage) from warcraft 3 ult abilty tbh

[@prealtezeratul1133]

In the middle of my first play through on hard difficultybut still with the most things i agree here expect the manticore and the anubite. And some others wich i will soon add here when i remmber what units

[@simounobrien9096]

Hey! Medusa's are S Tier by far. Sniping Critical Myth Units is absolutely fantastic and you gave them an F grade? Haha. They actually are superb, Just 10 Medusa's is enough to cut the enemy forces in half.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Medusas WERE S tier by far. You can't snipe critical myth units anymore. You can damage them a little and turn them into stone for a few seconds, but her special ability doesn't deal more than like 100-200 damage :(

[@simounobrien9096]

@@AmonsChallenges I just witnessed 5 Medusa's turn 5 Minotaurs into Stone. And those same Medusa's Wipes out an army with help from Manticores, Minotaurs, Hoplites, Toxotes and Heroes.

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@simounobrien9096 I'm a simple man, I just wanna turn a hydra or colossus into stone in one shot... I'm not asking for much :D

[@cmlcml415]

Zeus Minotaur with worshipping Hera is OP af not gonna lie lol

[@AmonsChallenges]

Def man, had a few really cool multiplayer games that just ended at the 10 min mark with me having a bunch of minotaurs that crushed the enemy

[@seanhearon6473]

I just started Norse campaign.. I know they didn't change much with Valkyrie but my god, are they just squishy jokes now. I know the point was never to frontline them, but you figure you can get at least a couple fights out of 2-3 of them early enough in the age... aaaaand no, no you cant, like at all, lol. Have 3-4 of them turned on no attack and micro manage every 10 sec so they stay away. They feel way weaker to me in this game...

[@AmonsChallenges]

100% agree!

[@mylifeisfunny8911]

Heka gigantes unit is overpowered

[@AmonsChallenges]

So so overpowered man

[@Himitsu_Murasaki]

interesting! I always perceived the Son of Osiris as a mythological unit

[@AmonsChallenges]

True enough, but it does say hero in brackets next to his name so I didn't put him here. Would have definitely been an S tier, I kinda think he was even buffed. Not to mention that you can recast the ability to spawn him hahaha

[@angelshadow990]

The roc automatically lands when you click on it to garrison units, and takes off the second you tell it to go to a destination, feels misleading to act like it's this big micro nightmare

[@AmonsChallenges]

I mean sure, but I really liked how it previously played like. Yeah, this one is more balanced but still...

[@karthiksheshadri6600]

They really fucked up with the mummies and medusae..

[@ziul.3124]

Hypocampus S tier❤😊

[@AmonsChallenges]

♥

[@Vario69]

Why are age 2 Greek units so much better then age 4 Greek units??? Like, HELLO??? Weren't they supposed to balance the game?

[@AmonsChallenges]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt since the game did just come out, so I really wanna see if they change some things up in the next patch

[@Vario69]

@@AmonsChallenges looking back, I guess some myth units always were weaker than the others, age and cost taken into account, but removing instakill ability just rubs me the wrong way. It's what offset the otherwise not so great lategame units (Medusa is so bad without its signature move)

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@Vario69 You are 100% right, some myth units really are better than others and taking the Medusa instakill away really make me feel like she is is send to the field to fight naked (and not in a good way btw :D)

[@matthewsteele99]

Buff Medusas, Crab boys, and Chimeras Nerf Nemean lions when theyre in groups 😅

[@AmonsChallenges]

So do the opposite of the Norse wolves power hahaha

[@jeremyhelbing7103]

I think mancikor deserve a a place there special platters arms much better then in the old game

[@timbawden2577]

The Roc is so clunky. I hope they fix it

[@mustafaceylan597]

it would be better if you showed the stats of the units first.

[@Xtariz]

Me and Laser crocs army in OG verison win everything or the firepohenix

[@AmonsChallenges]

The good old days lmao

[@Ravi9A]

Whoa minotaurs better than cyclops now? I never need pick ares again then

[@AmonsChallenges]

Basically hahaha

[@juliancamilodiazchavez2168]

Medusa Can turn into stone myth units

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, but they break free after a while, in the original they instantly died :-(

[@Rws4Life]

Spoilers RETOLD DEATHLESS LET'S GOOO Great list! The nerfs sure suck (Medusa and Argus), but I am happy with how the game overall rebalanced things. If I may give an idea... God Power tierlist. Would love that.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Yeah, balancewise the changes are definitely awesome, but would have loved the instakills to be available at least in the campaign. Would have loved to really go rampant there xD God power tierlists have been done several times already so I'm not going to do that, but currently I'm doing a cheats tier list and I'm also thinking about doing a giant heroes tier list (half of which is probably going to be Atlantean units hahaha)

[@Rws4Life]

@@AmonsChallenges I'll definitely watch it! Hope Polyphemus will be S tier

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@Rws4Life Probably, that guy is super busted xD

[@sebastianroldanperalta]

a Meusa can kill a colossus xD

[@AmonsChallenges]

Just not instantly... I saw somebody say that a group of 3 hoplites can kill a colossus so that wouldn't surprise me tho hahahaha

[@Chris-jg3cs]

Very, very strange list. :D

[@AmonsChallenges]

I'm a very strange guy so it works with my theme :D

[@Fortheweak13]

« for some reason they removed a lot of insta killed in this game » Tell me you don’t play competitive multiplayer without telling me

[@AmonsChallenges]

Hahahaha yeah, I know it makes sense balancewise, but would have loved still having them in the campaign :)

[@Fortheweak13]

@@AmonsChallenges True

[@FlammieLL]

I really should be getting this game!

[@AmonsChallenges]

Definitely!

[@derianalscester3924]

Mis pobres egipcios 😢 . Que injusto

[@matercheff]

Aom hypeee

[@Chistor12]

Tapir590 gringo 😲

[@cloroxbleach2638]

scorpion man C-tier ?? cmon man.

[@AmonsChallenges]

Not a fan of the unit man, but it's great that he is so spawnable since he costs wood

[@Making-156]

So this is a non competitive tier list ? Aren't tier lists supposed to rank things based on how good they are on the competitive landscape ? This is just you ranking units on how much you like them without much knowledge on how to use them.

[@AmonsChallenges]

This one is more of a list to just feel the units and compare them to their counterparts in the original.

[@luskaeu]

Tier lists can be based on whatever the person making them wants, if I wanted to make a tier list based on how many arms the myth units have, I could, as long as it's clear to whoever is watching.

[@Jimmyni-kk4em]

So u r judging base on looks. Not unit powers or abilities or strength. Pls do better

[@PandoraKin564]

No they're not, they are basing it on stats and effectiveness in the campaign. Where'd you get that?

[@Jimmyni-kk4em]

@@PandoraKin564 u sure man, i didnt hear stats or comparisions just whether he likes the look or not.

[@PandoraKin564]

@@Jimmyni-kk4em Ah I get it now. Cheers. Fair enough

[@AmonsChallenges]

@@Jimmyni-kk4em In the beginning I said that I'm judging them based on power, but also based on how cool they are and how they compare to the unit in the original