Ranking the Daedric Princes from BEST to WORST | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #2

[@briarfolly3764]

By the time elder scrolls six comes out this podcast will be about why there is so much cheese in Skyrim

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

And theyll have hired the sheo voice actor to narrate it lol

[@briarfolly3764]

They’ll make a mistake and a Bethesda writer looking for a review will put something wrong in the game

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

@@briarfolly3764 just to throw em off i hope not

[@adonicetrig8908]

Sounds bout right. Dammit I wonder if TES VI will even come out, sometimes, ffs...

[@theFORZA66]

Wait till you find out about the cheese mod.....

[@LordProteus]

Sheogorath should still alternate between different types of madness. He should go from his LOL SO RANDUMB mode to his deceptively calm and subtle Morrowind form and back again periodically. Madness isn't just about being loud and silly.

[@firetarrasque4667]

Sheogorath's madness is often emphasized at the expense of all his other aspects. Sheogorath is the mad god, but he's also a patron of creative-types, and we've seen how terribly clever he can be on many occasions.

[@grefsteel3989]

Yea a good casted sheogorath would be highly unpredictable and go from 0 to 10 to 4 to 7 to 2 to 8.

[@McHobotheBobo]

Oblivion Sheo is 100% the man himself

[@NamelessKing1597]

That's how It was in Oblivion, they just killed his depressive tendencies while keeping the manic ones in Skyrim. Even though his randomness was only compelling because of its contrast with his lucid state.

[@theirishviking9278]

his core character idea is kind of chaos, change and creativity personified but its very hard to write that so random madness is all we got for the oblivion main character in skyrim

[@cassiemichael4697]

Actually, Azura DID predict correctly what was in the box--a red-petalled flower--but the old Dwemer priest used sleight of hand to trick the others in those in attendance to the feat that Azura was not all-powerful. At the end of the story, the old priest died, and the red-petalled flower fell out of his sleeve, letting the reader know that he was a trickster, and that Azura was right all along.

[@armandpeanutspinou3430]

They said that

[@darkpaw1522]

The point of the test wasn't to prove if Azura was right or wrong, but rather to see if she was indeed all-knowing. If Azura was indeed truly all knowing, she would have guessed that the Dwemer would pull such a trick on her.

[@guiltra1661]

@@darkpaw1522 girl getting outsmarted by a dwarf LOL

[@MLPDethDealr32]

I always complete the Azura's Star quest in favor of Azura. I like to stay on her good side.

[@darkpaw1522]

@@DBeskar6605 You missed the point a bit. It doesn't matter how powerful you are. If you can make a god bleed, people will stop believing in them. Azura's followers wrre in love eith her ability of foresight. Her love and knowledge was something her followers seen as an unwavering truth. That was until both those faiths were shattered. In one trick the Dwarf shown that gods, as powerful as they are, can be tricked. In the second he made her most devoted follower fear her from the scowl upon her face, showing her vanity. He made a god bleed. You're right about Azura. 100% right. But that doesn't remove the fact a Dwarf proved a certain truth.

[@ElectricOstrich]

These podcasts are the ultimate path to achieving CHIM.

[@steveharrison76]

Cledraf ...that’s where you hack into the universe’s code and erase your chair’s texture file.

[@richardlionerheart1945]

I call it sleep but ok

[@joebaker7899]

B

[@davidmingle1650]

Peryites the weakest, just dethrone and replace him

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

Sheogorath/Jygallag takes 1st in my book. Always.

[@dancingintherain111]

Peyrite is the essential worker of the daedric realms.

[@mindtrait0r879]

He's one of my favorites but his quests do him dirty.

[@lilacpen8678]

Well, he started the plague in the first place so he kind of brought it on himself.

[@Mistahpope]

Same with hircine he supplies food

[@bemjones4858]

Him and vearmina I thinks that’s how you spell her name thoes two are my favourite

[@jhhehhshh]

I really like the idea of Peyrite being the flip side of Akatosh: The Monarchy.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

"We should swap Azura to mid-tier instead of top-tier!" -Azura did not like that

[@cameronferrell5722]

watch as they turn into Dunmer too

[@lilacpen8678]

-Azura has now cursed your bloodline.

[@gracedchaos8296]

Scott- Mephala Drew- Boethiah Michael- Azura Guys, we found the new tribunal...

[@terriblehibibi4333]

Are you hitting on Michael?

[@TaosoftheVoid]

They're known as: The Big Three!

[@CyberController-]

Camel is Dagoth Ur.

[@MehrdadParthian]

scott = mephala , drew = Malacath , michael = your guess is as good as mine :))

[@euanprior1798]

@@CyberController- sixth house gang waddup

[@cosmo9925]

Clavicus Vile is my favorite, he’s not 2 dimensional like Molag Bal, but he’s not boring like Peryite either. He’s got cool artifacts and entertaining stories, Like how one time a guy came to him and asked him to cure his daughter of lycanthropy, so Clavicus gave the guy and axe.

[@Pabloyearsago]

-an axe-

[@armandpeanutspinou3430]

That is a pretty good cure

[@weefy117]

Lmfao that is awesome

[@gguy3600]

I mean hey, if it works it works

[@MohamedMustafaAlk]

what is 2 dimensionl molag bal? the dedaric princes control they realms who are all infinite D

[@alexhannah8889]

I personally have always ranked Sheogorath as my favorite because while he's so completely insane, can be so dangerous and unhinged, he's CLEVER. His power he had as Jyggalag never went away. His interactions with other daedra, he always ends up on top. Just the concept of how his insanity was supposed to limit him, yet he still has so much intent behind his decisions.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

WHAT!!!

[@Kravenrogue]

I prefer Dagon or Hircine as "BadAss" on How they look and their Cults But Azura has a place in my Heart

[@ticoticoelosomagnifico4041]

Very late to the convo, but I agree with Sheo's cleverness. Many point out the crazy, LOL RANDOM XD shenanigans, and they are entertaining, but in nearly every story where he has a bet, or puzzle, or competition, he solves it in an extremely clever way. He displays that his madness comes from the calm, he doesn't need to make people crazy or defeat them himself; he simply allows them to beat themselves, and that belies a much smarter deity than just a madman. You can still see the logic of Jyggalag peeking through, just less obvious.

[@felixdm7724]

“She has the best cleavage” and that’s why I’m here 😂

[@connerhuntington6094]

But Jyggalag in his female form has a perfect bosom

[@blazingreaperx1394]

@@connerhuntington6094 I imagine if Jyggalag were to have a 'female' form for any reason, 'she' would have like perfect, rounded, flawless breasts... or just squares, like those old polygon breasts that Tifa had in original FF7.

[@connerhuntington6094]

@Blazing Reaper X What about Lara Croft’s Triangle breasts?

[@blazingreaperx1394]

@@connerhuntington6094 Maybe, but I don't think triangles are 'perfect' enough for him, anything less than perfection is not good enough for him.

[@connerhuntington6094]

@ Blazing Reaper X What if they were perfectly symmetrical isosceles or equilateral triangular pyramids/prisms? Or even better perfect 90 degree angle triangular pyramids?

[@barkasz6066]

Scott: Breton Drew: Nord Michael: Imperial Change my mind

[@lilacpen8678]

Why does this fit so well?

[@yourveryownlocalmoron6874]

hold up

[@MehrdadParthian]

scott = Dunmer Priest of Vivec, drew = Orc chieftain , Michael = Imperial veteran. change my mind !

[@unleashthesunnn7717]

scott is kajhit

[@berilsevvalbekret772]

nah man Drew would be imperial or an elf. More scholarly than nords. Scott is Dark elf.

[@firetarrasque4667]

I gotta say my favorite Daedric Prince is Sheogorath. While his appearances in the games are consistently "Haha quirky crazy man", we really should be putting more emphasis on the fact that he is the patron of artists. Sheogorath isn't just a crazy man, he is the patron of creation, passion, living life to it's fullest extent, and I love that aspect of him.

[@TenzinBeifongIII]

Sanguine kind of is too though

[@genobreaker1054]

I love that Dibella is likewise misunderstood. Everyone just thinks of her as the goddess of lust and passion and sex, but forget she is the patron of passion and beauty, making her the goddess of art, music, appreciating nature and a zest for life.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

I'm basically the same as him :-)

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459 man you need more spotlight I swear you only come up every thousand years

[@ivans.5959]

@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459 you are free now, so who knows? You could appear in a future game.

[@makotroid108]

Sheogorath: guess what's in this box! Azura: don't you even start

[@Jared_H88]

Drew: I'll have to check with the texts. Me: THE SACRED TEXTS!!

[@Galimeer5]

"Molag Bal is two-dimensional" *cries in Vigilant

[@hunterwpayne1]

Yeah, I think if the Vigilant guy was hired for Daedric lore it would be a lot better tbh

[@jorgecardoso5863]

Guys, did you ever consider getting along with a mod maker to put yourselves into skyrim? It would be really cool to see you in the College of Winterhold with some lore dialog. Like, if you read about the lore, the Eye of Magnus quests are reeeally cool and filled with power and history. But the game does such a poor job of showing that, that many players never learn how important Saarthal and that stuff is. I wish there was an NPC to expose things like that, and a trio of scholars would an amazing way to show it AND turn the college into tue hub of knowledge it shoul be

[@adityanadgauda]

This needs to be top comment. That would be pretty cool

[@lawamoli]

@@adityanadgaudap

[@Willow4526]

Bump

[@dancingintherain111]

This is such a cool idea!

[@theFORZA66]

Bump! And it definitely helps that they have interesting voices and good sound gear

[@link0612]

Azura having a resort temple in Turkey should qualify her for top tier

[@AvartiPlaysGames]

Great discussion :) Loving the podcast!

[@ciaranmck4469]

my nigga right here^^

[@rokturi]

ayy , love your vids my nigga

[@na-waktay4741]

Why fudgemuppet is an idiot

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

@@na-waktay4741 you're an idiot. Fudgemuppet is 3 people buddy

[@thejoaolobo2758]

We love you avarti

[@bronzecobra8556]

Vaermina nearly destroyed the Daggerfall Covenant through mind control and psychological torment. Eso expands greatly on Vaermina.

[@jordanjoserojasguerra3600]

She gives her followers the power to travel through time and space, which is op. If you accept the claim, that dreaming mortals go to vaerminas realm, she is probably one of the most influencel daedra, and very much involved with mortals daily life. I also remember some theories, that she is in league with the hist, but i cant remeber it right know..

[@Istilllikemusic]

They just put the 3 daedra we have the most informations about in the top tier.. Im kinda angry, that they put Vaermina in the lowest tier..

[@Istilllikemusic]

​@@jordanjoserojasguerra3600 The hist video was from camelworks, if i remember correctly.

[@bronzecobra8556]

Yeah I’m kind of angry about that too. The Hist theory sounds interesting, what’s the premise?

[@Istilllikemusic]

@@bronzecobra8556 Ehm.. I cant remember :D Im gonna search for the video and send you the link

[@nbriggs133]

To be fair on the "mispronouncing" of names by the voice actors. Isn't that basically just like real life? Everyone pronounces things differently, and especially when you consider all the races/cultures there would be a lot of different pronunciations that are all technically valid.

[@rileyholloway9182]

Not when it’s another Daedric Prince tho

[@nbriggs133]

@@rileyholloway9182 Why wouldn't the daedric princes also have different accents, pronunciations, etc. They spent a fair bit of time in this one talking about how the princes have quite a range of origins, not to mention transformations even after becoming daedric princes. Isn't that basically the same thing as different cultures? I will point out that its jarring to me when the daedric princes sound totally different from game to game. I would prefer at least character specific continuity in the voice acting.

[@NamelessKing1597]

@@nbriggs133 the voices do still fit their personalities despite not being the same, but yeah I miss Scottish Meridia.

[@NamelessKing1597]

@22sendvic pro Don't you remember from Morrowind? Endral Nairivair, Dog of Earth, and the Triplenail Vivian, Soft Soil, and Alexa.

[@NamelessKing1597]

@22sendvic pro Why doesn't Peryite know how to pronounce Dwemer right "I will give you a shield of DWEEMER make".

[@josephpinkston9832]

I personally love malacath because he's like an aggressive green Jesus, every time something bad happens to him or his followers, he thinks it's his fault and takes all the blame. He's also more fascinating than your typical warrior god like "oh I like fighting bro". Another plus to him is that out of all the daedra and aedra he's the most caring and rewarding because he's like the worlds best dad. Also something about him that isn't touched often is his affiliation with oaths and curses, like if you swear an oath malacath makes sure you keep it or he'll curse your ass

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

Malacath is underrated. He is much better than boethia imo

[@armandpeanutspinou3430]

Idk, when I think about him I cant help but remember the fact that he came out of Boethiah's butt

[@josephpinkston9832]

ArmandPeanuts | Pinou〈3 true but that just means he’s the shit

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

@@josephpinkston9832 exactly and he is literally the god of bdsm

[@josephpinkston9832]

IAMHAM indeed, he’s the god and in the dom

[@anthony_nixon4085]

I wonder if Cicero from the dark brotherhood will go to sheogoraths realm ( shivering isles ) because he is probably the most crazy character we can meet in skyrim

[@VVerySweet]

That would be a very interesting little thing to see in TES VI just like a little sight or just plop the character in during Sheogoraths Daedric quest he doesn't do much he is just kinda there and he's gone blind to think he's in the void

[@Galimeer5]

Cicero is in service to Sithis, so his soul is most likely going to the void when he dies

[@TheImmortalBloodwolf]

@@Galimeer5 sheogorath is currently the most powerful entity in the elder scrolls universe... As he has the same EXACT power as THE jyggalag pryor to The curse.... and in order to curse him.... all the other daedric princess had to team up to stand a chance.... He could easily overpower sithis!!! Especially considering the fact that he can overwrite any action done by any other daedra on a whim... And yes.... While not directly stated in game.... it has been confirmed that in order to separate from sheogorath... Jyggalag had to leave THAT much of his power behind....

[@ThrivingRose_]

@@TheImmortalBloodwolf Well maybe u're right since Sheogorath is maybe the strongest Daedric Prince but there are some theories where Sithis could have created the Daedra and where Alduin is stronger than any prince..sorry for any grammar errors but I'm not english xD

[@anthony_nixon4085]

Or how arnbjorn who is a werewolf. Does he go to hircine or the void because if Kodlak can enter sovengard but still get claimed by hircine then what about arnbjorn

[@windingroadelven]

The fact that Azura was powerful enough to alter the appearance of two entire races, a feat no other has done That's top tier power levels.

[@lilacpen8678]

Boethiah kind of did it with the Orcs. Also, I don't think it's so much a matter of "can't" and more so a matter of "no desire to."

[@hunterwpayne1]

I would agree, however I think it's just that the others have no reason to do that. It's an impressive feat, but I'm pretty sure that most of the others could pull it off if they wanted

[@windingroadelven]

@@hunterwpayne1 says who? They arnt all as powerful as each other and also maybe its just something the others cannot do maybe it's something only she can do... If the others could do it I think they would do it constantly to mess with people.

[@miraskabdygali3552]

@@windingroadelven eh I don't recall a daedric prince of pranking or messing. They do like messing with people, but in the way they desire to - maybe making them betray each other, maybe fight each other, turn mad, etc. Meridia for example gives little shit as to who or what mortals are unless they are undead,, so she would literally have 0 reason to change races of people.

[@danielshore1457]

@@miraskabdygali3552 I mean sheogorath is pretty much the daedric Prince of pranks if you think about it

[@zowdie6355]

Feels bad to be Meridia man, cast out of Aetherius based on what could very well have been a false accusation.

[@swoopiepoopy1608]

If #1 isn't Lord Peryite, I'm gonna be pretty upset. Peryite is easily my favorite of the Princes. Edit: That hurt; wasn't even least-bad.

[@kuzan421]

did you watch the beginning of the video 1st. this seems too ironic to be real lol.

[@umbradens6129]

it was 1 well at least the first discussion lol

[@swoopiepoopy1608]

@@kuzan421 It is ironic. Peryite is genuinely my favorite Prince though.

[@henrytownshed5304]

I like Azura or Meridia.

[@rokturi]

useless prince, not mcuh info on him, how can he be your favorite out of all the options? just doesnt make sense

[@dr.calibrations7984]

Yall did Jygallag dirty. He's probably THE most interesting prince, because he's obsessive compulsive disorder. He's also in denial about his madness. He's actually perfect for the role. Sheogorath is the madman who has accepted his madness and just goes about his insanity. Jygallag is the madman who denies insanity, he isnt insane, he hates the insane. He hates the madness within, just as he hates the Sheogorath within. He comes up with conspiracies as to whats actually going on. Clearly he wasn't a loon from the start, the other Deadra had to get together and conspire against him and make him assume the form of the madman this is their plan people, wake up break the conditioning. Jygallag is Sheogorath because Jygallag is the paranoid obsessive disassociative sociopath. NOT because he was so powerful the other Deadra had some conspiracy that goes all the way to the top to get him.

[@Bludflecked]

Jygallag is the ultimate Karen

[@Qardo]

Jygallag is the Prince of Order. He is so powerful. He scared the other princes and why he became the Prince of Madness. Yet in the end. He had the last laugh. As he still trolls the hell out of the other princes.

[@alexhannah8889]

I love this analysis of Jyggalag so much. It honestly just reminds me of real people in my life and how they respond to their mental health issues with so much extreme denial it almost ACCENTUATES their disease.

[@jyggalagdaedricprinceoford6239]

Can’t argue with this

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

I am the greatest Daedric Prince.

[@TheDeldiz]

I'm not sure you should be pissing off the Daedric Lord of Pestilence when we're in the middle of a pandemic...

[@Krakkokayne]

Peryite shall thrive in this era..

[@callmemandyNL]

Exactly my thought LOL

[@Quicksilver_Cookie]

Namira dabbles in diseases too.

[@pragimus1979]

Bwuahahahaha... I read this and turned my nose into a sprinkler of Monster Energy Drink

[@Kravenrogue]

If You follow The true teachings of Veloth and The Good Daedra, Then you will evolve in times of strife and conflict, you Will become Stronger, wiser and powerful

[@barkasz6066]

I’m completely in Scott’s corner. Ever since Morrowind back when I was 12, I’ve been a Dunmer fanboy. If I had to choose one Daedric Prince to worship, it’d be Azura.

[@basiosrasian225]

Same

[@michaelcox9855]

Azura watches us all

[@ClvrBstrd]

I just ordered a shrine of her

[@PolarasX]

Same

[@9manny99]

Fuck that old God. I’d sooner worship the Reapers. Sheogorath all the way. Azura god of the infinite soul gem and getting bested by others. From mortals to other princes. - Sheogorath Lover

[@ValeriaHoran666]

I mean, to an extent there is such a thing as strongest. There's a reason all of the Princes were so intimidated by Jyggalag

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

All of them working together and they couldn't kill me

[@kianrobinson4635]

Problem is that, nowadays at least, I’m pretty sure he has all the strength of a fart in a breeze, due to the fact that he is no longer worshipped and has no realm of oblivion, so he just sort of chills out in the nothingness

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@kianrobinson4635 I am much more stronger then you realise.

[@melofiloxd1429]

@@kianrobinson4635 The Aedra are the ones that derive part of (or even the whole) their strength from mortal worship due to their intrinsic connection to Mundus itself, but Daedra? Their strength is the innate strength of an Et'ada that didn't lose power due to creation (as they didn't participate in it).

[@dylancarroll4623]

Peryite and pestilence. Hmm I’m surprised they didn’t have a quest where a village or something was infected with a magical disease, that was incurable and the only way the main character could stop it was by killing all the infected people or asking Peryite, sort of a “I do this for you now and you will do something for me latter” kind of deal, like owning Peryite a favourite.

[@Samzillah]

I feel like he is really underused and you could do a lot of cool stuff with him.

[@Laticia1990]

I was thinking of the irony of putting Peryite at the bottom during a pandemic. Clearly this deadra has been underused in the elder scrolls series. His realm is pretty damn powerful and would wreak havoc on zenithar followers.

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

His name is The Taskmaster

[@95Bartlett]

56:00 So Dagon is basically the blue turtle shell of the Elder scrolls series?

[@WeaponizedKarma]

Please keep doing these podcasts. It feels good to know so many people are still interested in the Elder Scrolls.

[@elvenknight1205]

I want to thank you. You made Elder Scrolls apart of my heart in a way I couldn't ever think of. The Builds, The Lore that Drew shares, and every podcast. It all brings a warm smile to me and I'm not gonna lie, I sometimes go to sleep with the Wonders of Elder Scrolls in my head after I spend the night playing as my Khajiit Warrior Kodo Prelenium. Thank you so much for everything you do that keeps a smile on my face and bringing more love to a game that helped me deal with a lot of things

[@GusBDamme]

My personal favorite is Hermaeus Mora because this is a being that thirst to have all knowledge, somehow everything he knows doesnt drive him insane, but, it makes him choose to appear as a grotesque mass of tentacles and create a plane of oblivion that looks genuinely disgusting in every way, instead of just having rows and rows of bookshelves and being just some orb of light, hes near-all-knowing about everything that has ever happened, and CHOOSES to appear as he and his realm does, and i find that fascinating that he wants to know everything but also wants to be so visually disgusting that it drives people away from him instead of drawing them in to learn all he can from them

[@69inetails]

Aww hircine should be higher. He my fav prince.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@jhaycraft3980 IM SORRY WHAT

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@Semaj Harris LOGIC DESTROYS ALL

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@@jhaycraft3980 All of them worked together and they couldn't even kill me. They are Insects when compared to me.

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@Semaj Harris Not Always 😉

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

@Semaj Harris They worked together and they couldn't defeat me.

[@pj5403]

Clearly we all know the true rulers of obivion. The mudcrabs. Dang mudcrabs.

[@arby327]

Mudcrabius. Daedric Prince of Mudcrabs.

[@mudcrabmenace8534]

We will rise up and take Tamriel one day

[@pj5403]

@@mudcrabmenace8534 THEY WILL SING TAILS OF DRAGONCRABS

[@jhay3966]

he fought mudcrabs tougher than you

[@patrickaycock3655]

Mudcrabs. Horrible creatures.

[@lilymiller6277]

Oh my gosh I’m loving this podcast keep up the great work guys!

[@thedankboyo2460]

In Jyggalag's defense like Drew said he's trying to bring order to a realm mostly of chaos (oblivion as a whole) but the fact that the other daedra feared him succeeding so much that the cursed him and it takes a lot to get a daedra to do anything. Usually the most you get is them telling a mortal to do their work

[@shork1847]

First time I've ever seen y'alls faces; I expected Scott to look like Drew, Drew to look like Michael and Michael to look like Scott.

[@pragimus1979]

Azura had a hand in sculpting their faces

[@abigailcurtis5052]

“Consorting with illicit spectra” aka her and Molag Bal were a thing.

[@joshuahunt3032]

Abigail Curtis Dear gods, I hope not. Molag Bal is nothing but Dagon’s sex offender cousin.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

@@joshuahunt3032 I mean, he was with Vivec

[@timking8405]

My personal peryite defense: if peryite can be considered responsible for the knahaten flu and the thrassian plague than you can make the argument that he’s had far more of an impact on the mortal realm than most of the other daedric princes.... I also think clavicus vile doesn’t get enough love

[@bloodocean8389]

I think Peryite by theory may be the strongest of Daedra because of how he maintains natural order and can make diseases that could wipe out the planet. I think he wants others to think he's the weakest so that other daedra won't be on to him.

[@lsswappedcessna]

I'd say Sanguine would be pretty powerful, seeing as debauchery is rooted in the psychology of many people. Sex, drugs, alcohol, and partying hard. Sanguine would love college towns.

[@donniethekhajiit5252]

This channel truly makes an empty existence happy.

[@wedgeantilles1498]

I can't wait for the new ES game so these guys can go full strut again!

[@adamthompson6669]

You guys are the best best lock down pleasure for our ears, keep it up so cant wait for Fudge Muppet Cyberpunk, Starfield and Elder scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 content FGGGGGGGGGGGK YEAH, I am playing Skyrim now while listening so appreciate it, still love your build guides fallout and elder scrolls. Hope you are all doing well and thank you soooooooooooooo much again :)

[@monfe5532]

Vaermina has the coolest realm out of all the daedric princes imo. I love the idea that it's constantly shifting and becoming more frightening and incomprehensible

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

It's only cool from a distance, tho

[@pilgrimgirl3182]

i've already exhausted your currently released lore videos, and now i'm going through your podcasts as i play through Skyrim with "different eyes." i love your stuff, and your videos have been a wonderful companion in my isolation. Please keep making these. You guys are awesome. :)

[@edsethgriffin9012]

I'd love to see Sanguine explored more, too. Though admittedly his sphere could be considered a little one-dimensional, I don't this takes away from the interest or potential. Like what if his influence in a future TES title took the form of some satirical, fourth-wall-breaking indulgence of creating a fictional story about the importance of an individual and their quest to save the world. Perhaps the player character even realizes through this story the importance of everybody making an effort is what will actually change the world? And then Sanguine in the end laughs and reveals that while we were indulging ourselves in this story, understanding the nature of our existence, we've really just wasted a bunch of time and the world has fallen completely to shit. Perhaps this madness is better left to the pros...

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Sanguine: So, Hero. Did you slay the beast, save the artifact, and travel the land? Hero: >Yes, I did what you asked. Am I done? Sanguine: now that's just rude. I give you the chance to give all those poor farmers that the beast terrorized salvation and the power of the staff and see all these natural wonders, and you ask if you're DONE? Hero: >i have more important things to do. Sanguine: do you know? so you didn't have any fun at all? Hero: >what does that have to do with anything? Sanguine: well that's what matters isn't it? That you had fun? That's why you're here. You could've simply avoided me. Leave my quest as yet another note in your journal, but you didn't. Hero:>there were people to save. Sanguine: and what did you really do tho? Besides having fun, what did you change? Hero: >everyone can go on with their lives now. Sanguine: they are a bunch of traumatized children and starving peasants. All you did was kill a monster, after all. But hey, it was fun. Hero: > it is not about fun, you glorified dremora. Sanguine: ohh feisty. No. It was about the fun and you know it. Again, you didn't change anything. They will starve to death instead of being bludgeoned to death while you go off on another quest to save the world. But is it worth it when next century there will be another monster to slay? Another prince that wishes to enslave all? Another... Well. Another quest to save the world? Oh but no, you'll be there, won't you? You'll be there to be the HERO. The man who will go down in legend as he who saved all of Mundus. A myth, a demigod even. Great job. Hero: >i... I should leave. Sanguine: good idea. And don't worry about the staff, you can keep it. You've been such a great champion for me ao far, I'd love to see what you will do next. Make sure to leave some witnesses next time as well. This will make a great campfire story

[@DillionaireCat21]

Every time i think i lose interest in playing Skyrim, you guys restore my enthusiasm. I really appreciate all the work yall do. Awesome videos.

[@Jeridiculous]

No surprise Sheogorath ranks so highly - he is the one with an actual range of personality, as opposed to many of the others who are one-dimensional aspects of their spheres

[@oldcrow6752]

Why do three people share one voice?! Love ya guys, so much great content.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Honestly, seeing their faces and hearing their voices after one another makes them less similar to me... But it's like a sliding scale. Scott and Drew are the most different and Michael is kinda similar to both of them

[@acephas3]

We’ve gone over this...It’s Meridia, Azura, Nocturnal; then we get to everything else.

[@legaia216]

I’m calling shenanigans on Scott. He picked Dagon DESPITE a claim of his own assertion that, “he’s not number one.” Sheo forever.

[@sleepyllama3673]

It was in my recommended, and yet its such an early video, take that Early notifcation bell, we don't need you

[@funnyblog100]

Hermaous Mora is probably the most terrifying. Being the daedric prince of knowledge and fate everything and everyone seeking any kind of knowledge is serving his goals in someway. It doesn't matter if you know it or not he already knows your fate and if fate demands you serve him in some way all he needs to do is wait for you to come to him. Hermaous Mora manipulated both the Dragonborn and Miraak and seems to always win no matter what you do. You can't fight fate and thus Hermaous Mora will always get what he wants in the end. He doesn't care if you serve him willingly or not. He knows if you plan on betraying him because he already possesses that knowledge. He knew Miraak was going to try to betray him and planned ahead using the Dragonborn as a pawn. His eye even follows the camera meaning he isn't just interested in the dragonborn he is interested in you the player.

[@akumarajio2691]

Here's an idea: do a video or podcast making up some custom pantheons/religious philosophies. Between the Aedra & Daedra and the different interpretations I think it could be also interesting to sort of incorporate that to some builds.

[@gerbenvanegmond4007]

Nothing beats doing chores in the house with some Elder Scrolls content in the background. I usually don't like chores, but the last hour and a half I've not felt like stopping the chores for a sec, thanks to this podcast. Yesterday I listened to the previous podcast while doing other chores in the house, als the hours fly with y'all talking about the Dwemer, and today about the Daedric Princes. Can't wait for the next podcast!

[@TheTuita]

Haha, you know you're dealing with Aussies when the term "West Gash" results in sniggering.

[@ZorroLocoStudios]

Great discussion! Man, I knew I liked Mephala, but now you guys are making me think she might be one of my top favorites. And your discussion on Mehrunes Dagon was really cool, he's definitely a very worthy contender for #1. Can't wait for the next episode!

[@darkomen5689]

Just started watching and im going to say nr 1 is sheo. My mad lad.

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Sheos actions toward malacath kinda make me sad

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Sheo was just stirring the poy

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Btw look up Young Scrolls Zoom its ALL sheogorath lol

[@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459]

I'm the only one that needs to be No 1

[@darkomen5689]

@@jyggalagthedaedricprinceof8459 Be gone curse. Why do you trouble the mind of a old man already so troubled?

[@scottphillips6005]

Sheogorath isn't just "oh look I'm crazy." He's almost like ordered chaos - he's just as effective as I imagine Jyggalag would be. His madness just informs his objectives and methods. For example, during the course of the Mages Guild quest line in ESO, his entire goal is to mess over one single person - Shalidor. All of his actions are entirely calculated, the only thing mad about them is the methods he uses to achieve his goals (and often his goals themselves). In the Shivering Isles everything is does is purely calculated, but again, the madness is in how he arrives at the destination. In the stories of him beating the other princes, he's incredibly calculated, he just wins in ways no one could anticipate due to his madness. I feel like the Daedra screwed themselves by creating him, because at least they knew what they were getting with Jyggalag, whereas with Sheogorath they're still in for a beating, they just can't possibly predict how it will occur. I think there's still an aspect of Jyggalag's personality in Sheogorath. He's not purely random or crazy - when he sets his sights on a goal, he's incredibly meticulous, and arguably ordered, in how he gets there. His "focused crazy" really sets him apart from other similar characters.

[@regalcartoon5932]

I loved Sheogorath back in Oblivion. So glad he got his time in the spotlight in Skyrim.

[@TheFlowerchild712]

I think the thing with Clavicus Vile is that he's a literalist. He gives people the literal definition of their wish. Like the father that wished to end his daughter's lycanthropy but was given a weapon to kill her. Technically the lycanthropy would be cured.

[@generalpenultimo6502]

I don't think you can see yggalag and sheogorath as different deities because they are essentially the same. This fact alone makes them so much more interesting then every other daedric prince, even if the Form of sheogorath wouldn't be so interesting in itself.

[@plutoandpolaris]

I think the reason I love Sheogorath so much is because he’s so layered. You can enjoy the very basic surface level portrayal: he’s funny and unpredictable and Wes Johnson KILLS the voice acting. Then you start getting into the lore: his relationship with Jygalagg, his realm, his artifacts, which are all very interesting to learn about. But the thing that really draws me to him is how multifaceted he is. He’s the funny random cheese man, he’s the god who threatened to strangle you with your own entrails, he’s the patron of mental illness, he’s the manifestation of disorder and chaos, he’s the daedra who’s outsmarted the others many times. He’s unpredictable but clever, funny but malevolent. He’s ALL of these things at once. The games seem to put more emphasis on his easier to digest traits, which is fine, but MAN there’s so much more to him than that and that’s why I like him.

[@Soulslayer612]

I think that there wasn't nearly enough discussion of Hermaeus Mora. I personally find him to be the most complex and interesting of all the princes.

[@Swolling]

Can't wait to dive into this one. Much love guys

[@Philosophocat]

Oh that cliff racer screamer caught me off guard, god my heart stopped for a bit

[@angbandsbane]

I always liked how the Daedric princes give the writers a chance to work in pretty much any kind of demon/evil spirit--Lovecraftian eldritch horror (Hermaeus Mora), Celtic nature/hunt spirits (Hircine), destroyer demons (Mehrunes Dagon), corrupting demons (Molag Bal and maybe Sanguine), jackass genies (Clavicus Vile), etc. etc.

[@tomsnow925]

I think Jygallag is cool as hell. The whole greymarch thing is a fun bit of lore.

[@thefulcrum4466]

I love the channel guys, you really get me through my 12 hour shifts. Since I never played morrowind or anything before, I never really experienced the good daedra being significant, in anything other then texts. As an active eso player, I'd actually say that Merida because of her involvement in the plain meld, and how she inserted a part of her realm into cold harbor. I'd also say that Nocturnal jumping up there in her involvement in the clockwork and summerset DLC. Nocturnal was nearly a step away from conquering all of the plains oblivion and mundus.

[@jesterssketchbook]

Nocturnal: would thumbnail 10/10

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

Would thumb 10/10

[@antonakesson]

I think Molag Bal sits so high to me is because his quest in Skyrim scared the crap out of me the first time I played it. Molag just really creeped me out. He lessened a bit for me in ESO as his personality was just to goofy for me to bear. It helps that he is voiced by President Eden/Caligula/Alex DeLarge but not enough ;-D. Namira also ranks pretty high for me because I almost see her as a twisted mother figure. She loves her "children" and would do anything for them but also keep them where she wants them. Thanks to the khajiit the thought of her being the primordial darkness from which Lorkhan then started to build creation is also really interesting. I think they can do more with her as there are a lot there to expand, detail or even add.

[@subject8776]

Mehrunes Dagon is my favorite daedric prince, so I'm glad that he was in the top tier at least. His sphere is very appealing, change, revolution, energy, if he were an Aedra, he would probably be the God of Change and/or Defiance. The only issue is that it's change for the sake of it not for the betterment of something. That's why I felt like it was still within his sphere when I refused to kill Silus for him, that's the way it usually goes. The mortal obeys the daedric prince, well I *revolt* , it's time for *change* and that keeps things interesting. *As a side note:* I like the podcasts so far but the blurry background is unpleasant for my eyes. It would be cool if you could find another if possible. EDIT: Nvm, Mehrunes Dagon is number 1.

[@regrettablemuffin9186]

Malacath is by far my favourite of the princes. Certainly he’s not the most powerful, but he is one of the only daedra who genuinely cares about his followers instead of just using them. Also the patron deity of the outcasts of society really speaks to me as someone who has always been an outcast to society.

[@bryankelly335]

The unexplored are always pretty intriguing to me .. I guess because it leaves it up to interpretation and your mind has to fill in the blanks

[@justjestin9749]

I think Peryite is highly underrated. There is so much to natural order that is overlooked.

[@granockss9548]

Meridia put a whole city into the realm of molag bal, if this isn't badass I don't know. And she is the mother of the whole ayleids.

[@favlilnap]

I agree she's at least a mid tier, but for me she's top tier...hell she pioneered Skyrim space programs🤣

[@WalkinStereotype]

I love Hermaeus Mora not for the Lovecraftian style, though it is appreciated, but for how his sphere has become his obsession. It doesn’t matter the content of the knowledge, it just has to be something he doesn’t know. You could have a secret technique to holding in farts, and he will do everything he can to learn how to suppress his own. Not only that ridiculousness, but he may also have the answers to some of TES’ biggest mysteries.

[@RoraxPlays]

I think vaermina was done dirty, not even discussion of her :p she is the patron of fear probably the most potent emotion in a mortal existence and she seems to be constantly able to pierce into mundas. She deserves more credit

[@thomasschrank2606]

I think the fact that Dagon ultimately won in ES4, is an interesting perspective, cause of all the wars that followed the oblivion crisis

[@Slappy_Box]

My fave, gotta go with Malacath. I love me some Orcs and I love the brick on a stick, Volundrung.

[@dr.humaniel4559]

I was interested in this discussion but a bit dissatisfied with the outcome. I would love to see a comparison checklist version of this topic with a more definitive goal or criteria for the ranking. Bring in different categories to rank them by such as affects on nirn, lore, quests, relics etc that you touched on here but clearly separate them for analysis. Love this channel. Nice to see you have varied perspectives. Keep up the good work. 😁

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Scott you need a fidget spinner holy wow i see you twitching! Lmao i have one too And just ordered some bionicles🤫

[@basiosrasian225]

I did too bro

[@crushcreate1461]

I pretty much agree with your list here, except for some shifting in the top 3. My top 3 are: 3: Sheogorath 2: Mehrunes Dagon 1: Hermaeus Mora

[@mateothapotato]

Mehrunes is the best in my opinion even though Bal is my favorite Also Scott I understand the Dark elf love . Cant blame you

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I seriously can't get it.

[@fartnutte1724]

saying the rapist if your fave is a red flag

[@mateothapotato]

@@fartnutte1724 OK I don't mean it like that jesus.. Gotta go that route ... Thats not cool.

[@zoologybites6841]

Really enjoying the podcast so far! Can’t wait for more.

[@birdsong747]

i have to hard disagree on meridia, especially after playing eso. she should at least be middle tier. i mean, she snatched a whole city and stuck it into coldharbour. shes def strong and sure as hell a lot more interesting than you give her credit for.

[@ksimvanderhlaar]

The cliff racer noise around 19:10 made me jump, excellent job haha

[@breakingboosters7518]

Been watching this channel and Camel for years. Your audio quality as always been really really great. What microphone are y'all using?

[@FudgeMuppet]

Shure SM7B :)

[@itsgiorno2311]

these podcasts are my new favorite thing

[@shabalaba1]

loved the idea but kinda disappointed about this one, they said they put sheogorath in the top spot just for his realm when they said they wouldn’t do that, and put meridia in the bottom spot because of her realm, besides that good podcast

[@riverfoster7404]

I feel like Meridia being a former Magna Ge should have brought her up more. Like, the Magna Ge are one of the most interesting and esoteric groups of entities around and Meridia provides the best lens we have for any kind of personification of them.

[@thefiredogcult9523]

These podcasts keep me sain during these unprecedented times ngl

[@OlympusPublicAffairs]

Interesting thing to note about Sanguine is that he's not just about your typical vices like drinking or gambling. He covers all things debauchery, even the darker ones like pedophelia, torture, mutilation, and joyful killing. Any dark thing that people take an interest in or have some sort of fetish over, Sanguine has a spot for you.

[@bradtaylor8666]

Watching this while Dragon Age downloads, i am a traitor.....

[@Laurentus]

The top 6 Daedra are honestly just too cool to really rank them. My opinion would change every day on who's the absolute coolest.

[@LordNexusTheFir]

HOLD UP SCOTT before the video even gets going why you looking like the Thin Man from Charlies Angels Full Throttle! 🤣 Everyone else yall look GREAT.

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Guy looks fine let him be

[@thecomedygamingnetwork261]

Have you ever seen anyone realistically show so much flare?

[@harbingermors8328]

I don't know if you guys will see this but Molag did lose but you were boosted by the Amulet of Kings which gave you basically buffs from Akatosh. And leading up to that fight he was also trying to kill your friends which were being defended by Meridia herself so there is that.

[@mrvalentine2786]

I've been watching you guys channel since I can remember and I've been a huge fan for years, but with all due respect guys, only person to milk the elder Scrolls more than you guys was Todd howard

[@Willow4526]

Not wrong at least we get something out of these three lol