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LegendofTotalWar

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3 жыл бұрын

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@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
This is my save file, just a few things i wanted to add, the warrior priest is there as a walking buff/debuff AoE, he's got glittering scales, white cloak of Ulric, the brass cleaver, and a featherfoe torc (Which is almost useless against Chaos specifically but helps if something like a Dragon, a Terrorgheist or a Gryphon attacks one of the tanks) and of course the battle prayers + increased replenishment. Legend fought the battle pretty much as i would, the only difference is that when the melee begins, i usually pull all the tanks and the priest together so they can all get the buffs, if you cycle charge infantry units with them you can punch through Chosens with Great Weapons pretty easily, the only thing they really struggle with in melee even when they're all together and buffed are powerful melee single entities like giants, shaggots or dragons, but you can just shoot them if needed.
@fazalamin6379
@fazalamin6379 3 жыл бұрын
Good doomstack, any other doomstacks you have there?
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
@@fazalamin6379 There is the army Karl has but i need to find a good battle for it, also i have a disciplined beast wizards army in the making but that one isn't quite ready yet
@fazalamin6379
@fazalamin6379 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustSome462 Get that, I have a nice loremaster+Phoneix+Fire wizard stack in the making, takes too much time for the right traits
@doktarr
@doktarr 3 жыл бұрын
@@fazalamin6379 I've been waiting for someone to make that exhilarated loremaster+phoenix stack! Good luck putting it together, I look forward to seeing it in action.
@Elandrianthetrue
@Elandrianthetrue 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Legend was making a point of not microign the army very much to demonstrate how good it actually is. I bet clumping up and cycle charging is super strong
@12SickOne34
@12SickOne34 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an Life Wizard, spending all of your lifetime on mastering the art of life magic. And the Elector Counts sends you out as a mechanic.
@aleale8320
@aleale8320 3 жыл бұрын
Thats how the adeptus mechanicus born.
@ym3741
@ym3741 3 жыл бұрын
And that's why we trust the Bureaucracy of Empire!
@maximivanov4851
@maximivanov4851 3 жыл бұрын
Praise the Omnissiah!
@LinkLegend0
@LinkLegend0 2 жыл бұрын
The machine spirit need love too.
@fareastslav
@fareastslav 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he’s just healing the engineer crew who’s working their asses off to repair the hull and keep the thing from falling apart while simultaneously driving and shooting so they don’t fucking die of exhaustion and steam burns in the process
@jimbob4447
@jimbob4447 3 жыл бұрын
Balthasar rolling up with a whole Franzer Division
@doma7956
@doma7956 3 жыл бұрын
Best comment
@PitchBlackYeti
@PitchBlackYeti 3 жыл бұрын
FranzerKarlWagens
@sosschnesch4689
@sosschnesch4689 3 жыл бұрын
They are the Franzer elite, born to compete, never retreat
@fawi9155
@fawi9155 3 жыл бұрын
@@sosschnesch4689 Love it!!!
@12SickOne34
@12SickOne34 3 жыл бұрын
This one right there, Inquisitor! That's a true man of the Emperor.
@benlubbers4943
@benlubbers4943 3 жыл бұрын
"Your foe is well equipped, well-trained, battle-hardened. He believes his gods are on his side. Let him believe what he will. We have the tanks on ours." Balthasar Gelt, presumably.
@electromancer2645
@electromancer2645 3 жыл бұрын
"Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them." Also Gelt, probably
@ryanrusch3976
@ryanrusch3976 2 жыл бұрын
Bit of Eisenhower and Patton lmao
@emetanti
@emetanti 3 жыл бұрын
WELCOME TO THE ENDTIMES GENTLEMEN, THIS TIME A BALD VAMPIRE WONT STAB ME IN THE BACK FOR I HAVE BROUGHT A TANK DIVISION.
@markwalrusberg4259
@markwalrusberg4259 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck the endtimes, WE GOT TANKS
@spencermorgan2281
@spencermorgan2281 3 жыл бұрын
If warhammer had been 20% more steampunk, Gelt would totally be Warhammer Tony Stark.
@captainhindsight6994
@captainhindsight6994 3 жыл бұрын
They are franzs' elites Born to compete, Never retreat
@user-om3wn4yb8q
@user-om3wn4yb8q 3 жыл бұрын
Steam Division/Gelt's Division.
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-om3wn4yb8q god damnit, beat me too it!
@solarissv777
@solarissv777 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Panzerlied would be more appropriate
@GiantEnemyMudcrabz
@GiantEnemyMudcrabz 3 жыл бұрын
GELT'S DIVISION
@christianboi2142
@christianboi2142 3 жыл бұрын
Living or dead always ahead
@dominikk3643
@dominikk3643 3 жыл бұрын
"Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my sword!"
@JkaaraKoDi
@JkaaraKoDi 3 жыл бұрын
One more joke like that and you're geography!
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator 3 жыл бұрын
Ciaphas Cain was the inspiration for that line.
@user-oy8ho9cn3c
@user-oy8ho9cn3c 3 жыл бұрын
"Welcome to Kislev, gentlemen!"
@belafeldbusch3397
@belafeldbusch3397 3 жыл бұрын
you may be used to the undead, but today we shoot the northlanders!
@orangedalmatian
@orangedalmatian 3 жыл бұрын
I will not lie, THEIR chances of survival are small.
@Misfits_monkey
@Misfits_monkey 3 жыл бұрын
*paranoid by black sabbath playing in the background
@russianhorde
@russianhorde 3 жыл бұрын
Kislev? With this many tanks, we must be at Kursk!
@charlesxii2660
@charlesxii2660 3 жыл бұрын
@@russianhorde shame that the Chaos doesnt have any 'armored' units like Steam Tanks; otherwise it'd be Kursk but Warhammer
@ym3741
@ym3741 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Warhammer and the Empire. Imagine You are a mortal, short-living normal engineer employed by Imperial Army, but you notice your tank squinched tons of chaos warriors who blessed by chaos gods. This is the true victory of the machine technology and the ridiculous personnel system which sends the mage of life to repair and maintain the panzer division.
@alejandroelluxray5298
@alejandroelluxray5298 10 ай бұрын
​@@hansmatos2504they are competencias with the Dwarfs to see who discovers them first
@Witch_King
@Witch_King 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, Imperial panzer division fighting Chaos. CADIA STANDS!
@12SickOne34
@12SickOne34 3 жыл бұрын
Cadia Stands!
@LordVader1094
@LordVader1094 3 жыл бұрын
MIDDENHEIM STANDS*
@clementbianchini8651
@clementbianchini8651 3 жыл бұрын
Cadia Stands !
@christhovhannisyan2074
@christhovhannisyan2074 3 жыл бұрын
From Ancient Terrs Emperor Commands his Proud Sons! No Fear they Know Astartes his Proud Sons!
@jforozco12
@jforozco12 3 жыл бұрын
wrong universe my man
@E100Omega123
@E100Omega123 3 жыл бұрын
"Steeem Tanks. STEEEEMMM TAHHNNNKKS!!! Our enemies hide in METAL BAWKSES, DA KOWARDZ! TEH FEWLZ!! We...(asthma) We should take away their STEEEM TAHNKS!" - Garalous the Beslimed (probably)
@AreGeeBee
@AreGeeBee 3 жыл бұрын
I love this comment
@gerryjtierney
@gerryjtierney 3 жыл бұрын
Sssindriiiiiiii
@DavianLicanius
@DavianLicanius 3 жыл бұрын
Perfection
@tiburonpereze
@tiburonpereze 3 жыл бұрын
lighting strike has a whole new meaning now
@belafeldbusch3397
@belafeldbusch3397 3 жыл бұрын
its not called Blitzkrieg for nothing
@xdudax1
@xdudax1 3 жыл бұрын
@@belafeldbusch3397 btw Blitzkrieg is more an American word than you think. The original term is Bewegungs-Krieg.
@belafeldbusch3397
@belafeldbusch3397 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdudax1 wusste ich schon :D
@tiburonpereze
@tiburonpereze 3 жыл бұрын
@@xdudax1 nice
@SuperCosmicChaos
@SuperCosmicChaos 3 жыл бұрын
Ya Tank Shock.
@smokego123
@smokego123 3 жыл бұрын
Kislev destroyed by chaos before WH3 even releases 🌚
@komessandtomikcoll2154
@komessandtomikcoll2154 3 жыл бұрын
Im convinced Kislev will have a dedicated fall apart button in WH3
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
I actually saved Kislev in my campaign (The city that is, the faction was destroyed on turn 40 by Moulder) i assume Legend just retreated from the battle i sent because he didn't want to pull out all the reinforcements since that would have contributed to army losses on my end.
@amphitheremajesticon4928
@amphitheremajesticon4928 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyydude5522 Why wouldn't they? Some people do like a challenge. Anyway if Lightning Strike isn't changed then people will generally be able to wreck chaos.
@colbunkmust
@colbunkmust 3 жыл бұрын
@@deadlyydude5522 I doubt the Chaos invasions mechanic will function the same with demon factions in the mix and the whole base of the game centering around Chaos.
@thedeadcannotdie
@thedeadcannotdie 3 жыл бұрын
Archeon: "the empire will fall!" Gelt: "eat my panzers, you abomination!"
@matthewmcneany
@matthewmcneany 3 жыл бұрын
That's twice the number of steam tanks that are in the Warhammer universe canonically.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
It's 8 Steam Tanks in the Empire? I thought it was 12 ^^
@matthewmcneany
@matthewmcneany 3 жыл бұрын
​@@krankarvolund7771 They built 12, but only 8 were still around by the end times.
@krankarvolund7771
@krankarvolund7771 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmcneany Oh okay ^^
@matthewmcneany
@matthewmcneany 3 жыл бұрын
​@@krankarvolund7771 we're both correct 😁
@aziouss2863
@aziouss2863 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewmcneany Warhammer fantasy story is fucking stupid anyway end times in particular. How are not able to reproduce tanks when they literally got 8 of them around. They have literal universities of engineering and no one is able to do a simple copy-paste ?
@tamask7749
@tamask7749 3 жыл бұрын
Men of The Empire, *I'm no warrior-priest blessed with the gift of making grand speeches. I am no Orator... THAT IS TRUE.* But I'm not a cold man despite this mask, frozen in its stern aspect. What we do this day is not some plot to gain favour for the mantle of supreme patriarch... NO! There is more at risk! If the mountain god awakes, If Suneater is roused from his ancient slumber, all that we hold precious is Doomed. *WE MUST STOP THE SUMMONING AND STOP IT NOW!*
@docartemis2878
@docartemis2878 3 жыл бұрын
Sir... it’s a little odd that you brough up the supreme patriarch thing... I don’t think anyone was questioning that before you said it...
@bartoszspytkowski129
@bartoszspytkowski129 3 жыл бұрын
sir, this is Bugman's
@ktvindicare
@ktvindicare 3 жыл бұрын
This is basically the Empire's version of a Stegadon spam, it plays basically the same, it's just more expensive and a little harder to recruit.
@gerrygunawan4130
@gerrygunawan4130 3 жыл бұрын
and can become as Artillery too ...
@mivapusa
@mivapusa 3 жыл бұрын
Balthazar Gelt became a Vietnam meme, but clearly he should have become a Blitzkrieg meme.
@MechaMan3451
@MechaMan3451 2 жыл бұрын
WHY NOT BOTH?!
@user-rk5zy4mk2g
@user-rk5zy4mk2g 2 жыл бұрын
@@MechaMan3451 Blitznam? Or perhaps Vietkrieg?
@leonst.7471
@leonst.7471 3 жыл бұрын
When Karl Franz does a operation Barbarossa against chaos
@had3s184
@had3s184 3 жыл бұрын
finally a true empire doom stack
@chosenofkhorne2951
@chosenofkhorne2951 3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough there are only 12 steam tanks in lore but it would be strange having only 12 steam tanks vs a hole army of dragon ogres
@Charlys787
@Charlys787 3 жыл бұрын
Finally? This doomstack was available all the time. It's primarily not often seen because of it's costs.
@dimas3829
@dimas3829 3 жыл бұрын
@@chosenofkhorne2951 I find it strange that gunnery Academy of Nuln couldn't build more.
@chosenofkhorne2951
@chosenofkhorne2951 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimas3829 the original creater is border prince man he only created 12 before he came back home and got killed by skaven if they existed hehehe
@flopus7
@flopus7 3 жыл бұрын
@@chosenofkhorne2951 always found that weird. Its not something super technical like a bane blade or the big battleships. Seems like you could easily disassemble the non functioning one and forge all the pieces
@EcchiRevenge
@EcchiRevenge 3 жыл бұрын
Victor Saltzpyre: *heavy breathing*
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 3 жыл бұрын
Using fire magic against Chaos is like punching someone with their own hand lol
@cathulionetharn5139
@cathulionetharn5139 3 жыл бұрын
honestly using any magic is like that, there is no strictly chaos magic I gues death is a non chaos thing
@slinkerdeer
@slinkerdeer 3 жыл бұрын
@@cathulionetharn5139 I meant more like the staple magic type used by the ultimate Chaos lord (Archaon) is fire, I think he has 2 lores available to use but fire is the first one that jumps to mind when picturing Chaos, especially when the chaos corruption makes the landscape look volcanic YOU THINK I AM NOT VERSED IN THE ARCANE!? HA!!
@theeverchosen1504
@theeverchosen1504 3 жыл бұрын
@@slinkerdeer I DON'T NEED MY SWORD TO STRIKE YOU DOWN!!!
@schaefer1898
@schaefer1898 Жыл бұрын
500+ kills though...
@garethdelaney8375
@garethdelaney8375 3 жыл бұрын
Just one thing i would say here, when you disabled firing those steam tanks lost most of their melee effectiveness, in groups steam tanks have a mortis like effect, those steam tanks have a AoE weapon that doesnt require Ammo. With 4/5 in a group you have a perpetual steam cloud around your tanks handing out damage. In larger groups they can be almost immune to melee to anything but elites.
@NorfolkTears
@NorfolkTears 3 жыл бұрын
Gelts magic may not be the best but when he can cast some for free and others for 1 or 2 winds it doesn't really matter.
@ArvidHagelberg
@ArvidHagelberg 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's so wierd seeing Legend not using Gelt. Sure, firestorm is great (at 8 magic cost), but is it better than four casts of golden hounds (at 2)? Searing doom costs 1(!) magic, it should be worth casting it only for the map-wide casting buff.
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant
@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but this have me a vision of a Battlfield style Warhammer game with infantry running around and wizards casting spells and folks cruising around in steam tanks or cruising through the sky on dragons...
@kg3711
@kg3711 2 жыл бұрын
Ew no
@obi-wan3916
@obi-wan3916 3 жыл бұрын
Plans to play new DE flc today. Watches video...SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS!
@thoryon7767
@thoryon7767 3 жыл бұрын
If i did this id call it either "Blitzckrieg" or "SteamRolling"
@shrarneomar8080
@shrarneomar8080 3 жыл бұрын
without the c. "Blitzkrieg" - northgerman lad
@racist4595
@racist4595 3 жыл бұрын
@@shrarneomar8080 igitt ein norddeutscher
@shrarneomar8080
@shrarneomar8080 3 жыл бұрын
@@racist4595 alles nördlich der pfalz is meckpomm
@te2dj
@te2dj 3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the giants were being knocked over by the steam tank shots, I didn't know that was even possible. Makes giants that much more useless.
@houndofculann1793
@houndofculann1793 3 жыл бұрын
Any monster can be stunned by a hard enough hit, that's not giant specific
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
It actually makes giants particularly annoying to shoot at with tanks, since you can't focus fire on them, meaning it takes really long to kill them. It is a big drawback when using giants tho, i can agree with that
@sinbotosimmons7624
@sinbotosimmons7624 3 жыл бұрын
6:14 Legend: "Kislev will probably be destroyed pretty quickly." Me: At least until the third game comes out.
@grimdarhk
@grimdarhk 3 жыл бұрын
Then they'll get destroyed kinda quickly.
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 3 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't Lore of Metal be the one healing tanks?
@mrvex6695
@mrvex6695 3 жыл бұрын
Unessesary complexity Though selective healing does exist in the game, Necrotects can only heal constructs and not undead. So to explain why jade magic can heal, it heals the engineers that are repairing the tank even during battle.
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrvex6695 But then the lore of metal could pay the engineers more which would have the same effect. I should know, I am an engineer.
@Sir_Bucket
@Sir_Bucket 3 жыл бұрын
@@Limrasson if you didn't understand what the guy said: lore wise he should. But in game, it will just be annoying to do.
@Limrasson
@Limrasson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sir_Bucket I know, I'm just making engineer jokes!
@theortheo2401
@theortheo2401 3 жыл бұрын
@@Limrasson the best jokes around :)
@stephenleggett4243
@stephenleggett4243 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that by the time you can reasonably put this army on the table, both in cost and winds, 1 is a no brainer to have. It's cost is high, but it is worth it's cost if used for it's purpose. If you have lesser stacks battling the chaos hords and it's auto resolving easy fights elsewhere your doing it wrong, but if it's taking out chaos by itself, or an equivalent threat, sorted.
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's how i used it throughout the campaign, this army has been fighting Moulder and Eshin for most of the campaign and took down pretty much the entire Chaos invasion on its own, Karl's army is what i use for the "lesser" battles
@0UR0US
@0UR0US 3 жыл бұрын
I don't use a warrior priest in my stack, but this is basically all I field as the empire. Sometimes I'll throw in up to 5 units of grenadier outriders if I'm attacking a bunch of infantry.
@ICanHazRecon911
@ICanHazRecon911 3 жыл бұрын
today I learned you can click on each individual lord in the pre-deployment screen to see the campaign status of their armies, lol
@Kikuta1Kotaro
@Kikuta1Kotaro 3 жыл бұрын
Ob´s stürmt oder schneit, ob die Sonne uns lacht, Chaos wird Dampf unterm Hintern gemacht!
@sotirisdel9120
@sotirisdel9120 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one real explanation why it performs so well. I AM SUPREME!
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 3 жыл бұрын
I built a much stupider version of this doomstack, but I got a new lord and named him Erwin Rommel.
@elefunxd2006
@elefunxd2006 3 жыл бұрын
Perfection
@AidanDracole
@AidanDracole 3 жыл бұрын
Should've built a second and named its lord Heinz Guderian(!)
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 3 жыл бұрын
@@AidanDracoleNext campaign.
@Witch_King
@Witch_King 3 жыл бұрын
@@AidanDracole third and name lord Patton
@ryomakai
@ryomakai 3 жыл бұрын
Now go invade tomb kings like a real desert fox.
@sumitmhatre8419
@sumitmhatre8419 3 жыл бұрын
"Champions of chaos? You misspelled *Heretics I'm about to crush underneath my tank division*."
@CarlyRivers_91
@CarlyRivers_91 3 жыл бұрын
i love the imperial steam tank's ability when melee units get close, plus they havea nice blue color
@x0lopossum
@x0lopossum 2 ай бұрын
This stack gets a huge glow up in the future in Warhammer 3.
@sieg4607
@sieg4607 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the empire to get a Master Engineer on mechanical steed lord type / Engineer Hero. That would make this army even better lmao
@daniellison9182
@daniellison9182 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that guy that is always turn on by the mere sight of a steam tank?
@meik-oliver5931
@meik-oliver5931 3 жыл бұрын
They are the Panzer Elite, born to compete,never retreat, GHOST DIVISION!
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 3 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if we've had steam tank variants like 1)Alter Kamerad which is an IFV which uses Hellblaster Volley Gun as main armament; 2)Unfehlbar which is a mortar equipped SPG; 3)Von Zeppel which is an APC with a platform full of guys armed with experimental weapons and should be available to Engineer heroes as a mount; 4)Sigmar's Hammer which is basically a glorified siege ram.
@beowulfansgarX
@beowulfansgarX 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that sounds marvellous.
@lukusridley
@lukusridley Жыл бұрын
All those wizards are really engineers. The Warrior Priest is a maintenance engineer keeping things up to spec, the life wizard is a mechanic repairing everything and the bright wizard is a problem solver. What kinds of problems does he solve? The problem of enemy artillery existing
@undeadsynth8727
@undeadsynth8727 3 жыл бұрын
So apparently german panzers in WW2 only needed life wizards instead of mechanics to win the war? Interesting..
@villepaavolainen1375
@villepaavolainen1375 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect army to steamroll Chaos
@pirauxjulian2364
@pirauxjulian2364 3 жыл бұрын
12/10 would start a new empire campaign again
@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda
@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda 3 жыл бұрын
Balthasar predicted the win before you even engaged.
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI
@vidiveniviciDCLXVI Жыл бұрын
Fire mages been OP since shadow of the horned rat, if you know you know.
@StarFoth
@StarFoth Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the 20th century, Archaon the Neverchosen!
@ahmadbakri9868
@ahmadbakri9868 3 жыл бұрын
Well I still think that corner camping is a better idea because those bad boys are unbreakable, the enemy does not
@Darkiahful
@Darkiahful 3 жыл бұрын
*Balthasar " Rommel " Gelt intensifies*
@Joeyjoejoe1708
@Joeyjoejoe1708 3 жыл бұрын
Balthasar the Wüstenfuchs.
@AshenVictor
@AshenVictor 3 жыл бұрын
The downside I see to having a Steam Tank stack on Gelt is that Gelt can do so much work by himself that you could more productively have him elsewhere.
@Sarum9nich
@Sarum9nich 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! In 40k im a chaos space marine fan, but in fb i absolutly despise chaos for some reason.
@PaulDiracTWR
@PaulDiracTWR 3 жыл бұрын
That's hella effective doom stack. Tbh, I would've used Searing Doom way more then that, it's low cd and only 1 wind of magic with Gelt.
@TheodorSvarti
@TheodorSvarti 3 жыл бұрын
Healing tanks with spells. Now I'v heard everything... Thank you for video!
@IZn0g0uDatAll
@IZn0g0uDatAll 3 жыл бұрын
Those chaos warriors got... 😎 ... steamrolled. (Tougoudoug ziiiing)
@vivadrc5105
@vivadrc5105 3 жыл бұрын
Really good doomstack gonna try this in my campaign when i play as the empire! excited to try this one out!!! great video btw!!!
@pickleinspector5948
@pickleinspector5948 3 жыл бұрын
Gelt is conducting a Blitz in the old world
@henrymonroe4300
@henrymonroe4300 3 жыл бұрын
Franz's fist - the first Nuln panzerkorps
@alanhouk1427
@alanhouk1427 3 жыл бұрын
Where is steam tank guy, The Boy Who Memed? Is he safe? Is he alright!?
@Seishuu12
@Seishuu12 3 жыл бұрын
Pesent: We are outumbered, what are we going to do? Balthasar: Good now we ca blitzkrieg from all sides!
@Vraimorte
@Vraimorte 3 жыл бұрын
Love your content. Bought Warhammer 2 on sale a few years ago and never played it. Your vids inspired me to give it a try.
@electromancer2645
@electromancer2645 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best games ever made imo
@polymphus
@polymphus 3 жыл бұрын
"more of less the front line against chaos" *stares in Moulder*
@user-jc4ot5vw6m
@user-jc4ot5vw6m 2 ай бұрын
Good panzer battallion, Hans
@miskov1213
@miskov1213 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's one loud doomstack, a boomstack one would say.... Metal boomboxes!
@stephenleggett4243
@stephenleggett4243 3 жыл бұрын
When talking value, it's a lot cheaper to be 1 expensive army than 2 armies at half the cost each, assuming higher level difficulties and supply lines, though less versatile.
@ehk5948
@ehk5948 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but what about 4 armies at 1/4 cost that can be in 4 different places at once? I personally don't find hugely expensive stacks to be worth it. Rather cover more ground with cheaper armies
@stephenleggett4243
@stephenleggett4243 3 жыл бұрын
@@ehk5948 horse's for courses. Different situations require different approaches, try and stick to 1 all game and things get tough, besides, we all play differently so I would never presume to criticise how another wishes to play, it's all fun in the end.
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 3 жыл бұрын
That what pretty much my thinking as well. This army may be 2.5x the upkeep of Franz's army, but it sounds like it can also take on more than twice as much. To me, that's pretty much what you want out of a doomstack. You could have two Franz-style armies to do the job, but then you don't just have the upkeep on two Franz-style armies to pay for, but at higher difficulty levels you've also got a big chunk of extra supply lines on your entire army, which is probably going to be more than the 4000 gold or so's difference between two Franz-style armies and the Steam Tank doomstack. With supply lines at higher difficulties being what they are, really the only reason to be concerned about the upkeep of individual armies is if you need an army in a particular location but it doesn't need to be the most powerful army you can field. As long as you start thinking that you need a second army to support it, if gold is your primary limiting factor you really should be looking to maximise your slot efficiency over worrying about your up-front upkeep cost, since maximising slot efficiency works out cheaper in the end. That's my thoughts on the matter, anyway.
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
@@Draxynnic The thing about Karl's army is that it's built around lightning strike, it could solo the Chaos invasion just like this one (It did multiple times in other campaigns) but it'd need to pick them apart slowly over the course of 4-5 turns, while this can just punch through 4 stacks at a time, so it's more cost efficient even if it isn't as powerful. That said don't use Karl's army comp against Skaven, Menace Below fucks it up massively
@Draxynnic
@Draxynnic 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustSome462 Building around Lightning Strike would mean that you have to be extra-careful about making sure you get to pick your battles. Which is certainly doable, it's just another consideration. As long as it is genuinely capable of taking on what it needs to, then yeah, it's not necessary to make it the most powerful army it absolutely could be, and an ~8000g stack that can do the job is definitely more efficient than an ~21000g stack that will do the same job. The thinking, though, is that if an army is not powerful enough, it's generally more cost-efficient at higher difficulties to sub in stronger units than to add a second army to support it. And it's better to err on the side of the army being more powerful than it needs to be than less. (Although the most expensive army isn't necessarily the strongest, of course!) I do note that you've got Lightning Strike on Balthazar's army as well, so you could take the 'fight them one army at a time' approach with it as well rather than just diving in like Legend did. But the extra upkeep does buy some additional margin for error.
@Pedro-zu3uq
@Pedro-zu3uq 3 жыл бұрын
21:41 Look at that Warp Cannon shoot go! Did it track him backwards?
@nicbahtin4774
@nicbahtin4774 2 жыл бұрын
Give a whole new meaning to a storme of steel
@AurioDK
@AurioDK 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Steam Tanks is worth the admission money alone, almost as good as a stack of Hellblasters on a hill.
@Mesadoram
@Mesadoram 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't think we are going to win this" *Jiggle the mouse to see the length of the video* Yeah, he is going to crush this.
@LevCallahan
@LevCallahan 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty floored at how much the army costs, even with the special regiments. Sure those state troops really drive up the costs, but it shouldn't be at over 21k gold. I've got an almost similar doomstack with ALL state troop steam tank units, and the cost is like 9k. I make sure every elector count position is filled, which reduces the cost by 5% per filled position. I've got 12 out of 13 spots filled. That's a 60% discount. ^9k is what this army SHOULD cost. The only explanation I can fathom on why this army costs over 21k is because whoever is playing this isn't paying close-enough attention to the elector count positions.
@timothykurdt7645
@timothykurdt7645 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else experiencing some weird flashes in the video? like certain frames were corrupted during the upload or something?
@k.e.v.2011
@k.e.v.2011 3 жыл бұрын
I surely do. Weird green glitches now and then.
@beowulfansgarX
@beowulfansgarX 3 жыл бұрын
Had that stuff yesterday happen to me, although on another vid. I guess one can blame yt for being pro chaos.
@TheRhysStreams
@TheRhysStreams 3 жыл бұрын
Don't Forget Gelt's bombardment spell only costs 1 wind of magic, he can spam the fuck out of that on enemies locked in melee. It has good coverage and is very efficient damage per wind.
@ArvidHagelberg
@ArvidHagelberg 3 жыл бұрын
At 15:14 he turns fire at will back on, and all the Steam Tanks start spewing (free) steam projectiles. If a unit has secondary projectiles (Doomwheel Zzzzap!s, Stegadon javelins, Steam Tank steam blasts, they will only fire if you turn on fire at will. Specifically for tightly packed Steam Tanks that's a lot of DPS he left on the table, there. Granted, it made no difference for Legend in this fight (he won easily anyway), but it might make a difference to you.
@Mariose123
@Mariose123 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing Blitzkrieg formation 10/10 panzer division :D Steam tanks with all the upgrades and ward save they can get are really...well tanky :D
@19midnightsun87
@19midnightsun87 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez...That's a Chaos invasion...:-O
@senshibat8920
@senshibat8920 3 жыл бұрын
He shall be victorious -Steam Tanks rank nicely here.
@freddymeisner
@freddymeisner 3 жыл бұрын
Gelt is such a fun campaign, stoked on this one
@robland3253
@robland3253 Жыл бұрын
Also remember, the steam turrets have unlimited ammo
@martinlisitsata
@martinlisitsata 10 ай бұрын
Faith, Steel, and Gunpowder !
@Crazmuss
@Crazmuss 3 жыл бұрын
Why you not using charge bonus? Send half of army in melee cycle charge at start, then when they get enough damage, set them on ranged and other half on cycle charge!
@grimreaper492
@grimreaper492 3 жыл бұрын
apparently he was purposefully just making them sit there to make it "idiot proof", so that even if you use it terribly the doomstack still wins
@user-vn1wz3tr1h
@user-vn1wz3tr1h 3 жыл бұрын
the centre top spell for Gelt can cost only 1 Winds when he is leveled up for it. Why not use it? It's basically free, and while it doesn't do much damage it is very good for Winds efficiency especially against blobbed-up units
@gerryjtierney
@gerryjtierney 3 жыл бұрын
Free plagues of rust, free glittering robes, searing dooms1, just have Gelt hover the whole time apparently
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
Neither plague of rust nor glittering robes were free because i didn't put two points into those
@infini_ryu9461
@infini_ryu9461 2 жыл бұрын
Balthasar Gelt the Heinz Guderian of Warhammer.
@leibster789
@leibster789 3 жыл бұрын
Why nobody uses Light/Beast magic to prevent AP damage with tanks? They are literally invulnerable when AP is blocked
@JustSome462
@JustSome462 3 жыл бұрын
It's not really needed, they already have 15% ward save, 22% extra with the warrior priest, and you can give them 22% physical resistance with Shield of Thorns, which makes their physical resistance 59%, if the lord is an Archlector (Or Volkmar) you can slap *another* 22% ward save on top of that making their ward save 59% and the physical resistance 81%
@Feragore
@Feragore 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustSome462 You know, I was just about to question whether resistances stacked like that, but they do. Ward save stacks additively with other resistances.
@gerryjtierney
@gerryjtierney 3 жыл бұрын
Gelt levelled up has free plagues of rust and searing dooms for 1 WoM - his magic is stupendous
@CommanderTavos99
@CommanderTavos99 3 жыл бұрын
Heinz Guderian and Erwin Rommel approved?
@MrSchottlander
@MrSchottlander 3 жыл бұрын
The Emperors Tank Division
@maxradke4514
@maxradke4514 3 жыл бұрын
"Death in the shape of a Franzer battalion!"
@lordcatpotato
@lordcatpotato 7 ай бұрын
that is very scary chaos doomstack
@KipperStudios
@KipperStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Early! Can't wait to see how this turns out.
@KipperStudios
@KipperStudios 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Id say a 9.5 is a good rating for it. It is expensive, but you go into it knowing it'll be expensive. I mean, hell, it pulled that off, so while it wouldn't do nearly as good vs four armies of dwarves, it definitely has its use.
@headcultee
@headcultee 3 жыл бұрын
Ever done a Tyrion at war with all high elves capaign? I enjoy your content. Good work.
@Joeyjoejoe1708
@Joeyjoejoe1708 3 жыл бұрын
He did it once. He called it something like "going full Aenerion".
@zacharyjackson1829
@zacharyjackson1829 3 жыл бұрын
Balthasar's magic doesnt have to be amazing the fact that his magic feels like your on Normandy Beach throwing magic around every other second for practically no cost even at legendary difficulty is very cost effective (and hella fun)
@clementbianchini8651
@clementbianchini8651 3 жыл бұрын
Gelt would have stopped Abaddon too like that!
@DheeradjS
@DheeradjS 3 жыл бұрын
The Omnissiah is pleased
@sano0311
@sano0311 6 ай бұрын
Fire wizards are best. I wonder if you created like half circle defensive line would that prevented enemy from flanking you
@jonathanbonicel1654
@jonathanbonicel1654 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the reinforcement system work like it's first the trash units (infantry) and cavalry coming, and then monsters and artillery? Because it doesn't work the same way when it's the player right?
@si3ma280
@si3ma280 3 жыл бұрын
Ale wykurwisty. Rób dalej dommstacki. Jesteś moją wielką inspiracją.
@chris-il4qu
@chris-il4qu 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't perform optimally at all in my experience but i love to mimic modern warfare as the empire haha just gunmen,tanks, rocket batteries and mortars with some of the war wagons. I usually win but casualties are always high. But its funny thinking about how modern arms would fare against fantasy Chaos. If only the empire developed with closer ties to the dwarves for another century. We'd have empire attack helicopters too 😂
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