Rating the strongest possible Doomstack in Warhammer 2

[@user-lq5yx1ke5k]

Imagine you are a High Elf Phoenix Guard, you have trained for literally thousands of years for combat. You are a trusted body guard of the Phoenix King himself. You have mythical Dragons and Phoenixes as your allies, you have powerful Arch Mages and Legendary Lords and Heroes leading your army. You walk into the battle field and instantly get vaporized by a dead frog. Meanwhile the Dragons and Phoenixes get turned to kebab by 3 meter long ballistae shots and for some reason God Himself is shooting laser beams at you.

[@JustSome462]

The best part is that the Phoenix Guard will have known all of this beforehand, because Asuryan shows them their death in a vision when they make their vow as a Phoenix Guard

[@darthplagueis13]

Also, you are basically shitting yourself because the shere amount of bling that the little lizards have on display intimidates you.

[@Verpal]

@@JustSome462 If I were the Phoenix guard that were shown getting killed by some skavan slave, I think I might kill myself just to make a point.

[@raphsere]

Correction: though it's a common misconception due to their name, the Phoenix Guard aren't the bodyguards of the Phoenix King; that would be the White Lions of Chrace. Rather, the Phoenix Guard are the guardians of the Shrine of Asuryan, the most ancient and holiest place in all of Ulthuan, which houses the Flame of Asuryan, the everburning fire through which every Phoenix King must pass through to be deemed worthy of the title before the Creator God.

[@martenkahr3365]

@@raphsere And the reason Ulthuan is has been stagnant at best or outright declining despite all their advantages, is because the Phoenix Kings try to cheese the Phenix King ritual by having their mages cast a whole bunch of protective spells on them that basically prevent Asuryan from burning them if they're unworthy (which generally leads to unworthy Phoenix Kings).

[@khairallahdh]

“Even when not playing skaven I’m still playing skaven.” Wasn’t expecting a Skaven moment this video but ya know. I’m glad it happened.

[@austinkoos6842]

"That's my secret, I'm always Skaven"

[@knighttemplaroftentacult7123]

Plot twist! It was the Councill of 13 who actually played everyone... It is their great scheme, yes-yes!

[@Joyexer]

YES YES!

[@bertus3710]

There was another one as well. 11:46 : "Walked out of there basically *unskaved* " x)

[@italianwaffle5592]

@@bertus3710 Uh... Unscathed...*

[@Okoii]

Man, people have been asking me to do 19 of these guys for a hot minute. This may have convinced me god damn.

[@gabrielmelnik6796]

I will watch that video

[@TheHalcyonTwilight]

Legend is starting to beat you at your own game, man! He snuck in the Skaven Chieftain memestack as well earlier. The advantage of having other people make the armies for you, I guess.

[@AMRIV]

I bet you can do some crazy rave patterns with 19 laser beams. Also: Balthasar Gelt: "Do you expect me to surrender?" "No Mr. Gelt, I expect you to melt."

[@Okoii]

@@TheHalcyonTwilight maybe i should have someone make the armies for me to save time 🤔 big brain legend time

[@onlyheskuin1717]

You can still beat him and do 19 Witch Hunters

[@charlesgraham5997]

The beastmen just sitting there in estalia like "what the fuck has legend done to the world"

[@gustavosanches3454]

Then Morghur trips and hits his head and dies again

[@alirezarezaei2976]

The most destructive comment i ever encountered to date!!!I'm dead seriously!!!

[@Olav_Hansen]

Listening to the polish cow song

[@vigil2150]

Not even us Beastmen have ever brought such an abomination to this world!

[@MrLuca12121]

Beware the Cheesetide

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

I suspect the player to be a Dragon ball fan

[@xelacremant7396]

I don't know how you could possibly make such an accusation.

[@vojtechkorhon4159]

@@xelacremant7396 just a Gut feeling

[@vlad.nicula]

lool I was thinking the same thing without even seeing the name of the lord by just seeing all the casting happening on the screen at the same time

[@xelacremant7396]

@@vojtechkorhon4159 Is it the Vegeta(-sama) that gave it away?

[@gabrielmelnik6796]

The guy who sent the save file is the one that put those names

[@Achillez098]

(Skink Priest comes in for his job interview) Slann: "Alrighty, you're resume is looking good. But what are some of your flaws?" Skink Priest: "Hmm, well I'm a little pompous..." Slann: "YOU'RE HIRED!!!" Skink Priest: :D

[@zombiegamer1069]

XD

[@the_last_blue_shiba]

"Is that Tyrion?" He is just so insignificant against this army that you hardly noticed one of the best if not the best legendary lord in the game.

[@kenny3179]

Do people actually rate a dude on a horse that high ?

[@Bezem1944]

@@kenny3179 wait, you put him on horse?

[@kenny3179]

@@Bezem1944 nah I don't use him at all My boy luthor harkon is THE legendary lord I choose for combat ability

[@jonathaneastman3d]

Horsey-elf-thing

[@Quark214]

@@kenny3179 in MP, luthor harkon is an absolute beast, in SP i find noctilus better to be honest

[@digitalshoes5520]

there is one very overlooked weakness of this army. all those spell particles will light most of our PCs on fire so we will technically lose due to disconnecting. turns out wh2 is a p2w game in the end

[@aidenpons9584]

not if you smush the camera into the dirt, it really massively improves framerate at the expense of not being able to see anything

[@varp4557]

@@aidenpons9584 pain peko

[@DarkJak337]

Just go to tactical view broh 😂

[@Saucman]

Peasant.

[@avionprime8757]

"Is that Tyrion?" Legend turns on the laser eyes meme

[@Iceman-135]

Tyrion 'I am the mightest of elves!' Legend - 'Omae wa mou shindeiru' Tyrion - 'NANI?!'

[@ftayl5]

I really wanted to see 18 fireballs at once knock that dragon out of the sky.

[@Assdafflabaff]

Inb4 14 of them miss completely.

[@GrasshopperKelly]

@fucku weebsnfurries but... They'd be Dragon Ballz

[@Chocolouf]

Yes! This is what the Old Ones thought about when creating the Lizardmen.

[@WR288]

Elves: We have dragons Lizardmen: We have a turbolaser

[@knighttemplaroftentacult7123]

Skaven: What-what? I can't hear you because all the nukes I have!

[@felipealvarado8801]

@@knighttemplaroftentacult7123 well sorry to tell you this, but for a god damn reason nukes didnt afect stegadons

[@knighttemplaroftentacult7123]

@@felipealvarado8801 Well, for those stupid beasts Skaven have a lot of hot-burning warp-lead.

[@gottagofastest]

@@knighttemplaroftentacult7123 We have a dead frog.

[@mares3048]

Considering Lizardmen are strongest in lore they deserve strongest doomstack 😃

[@KangarooLord]

This army would've won the end time against chaos.

[@ninetailedfox579121]

Archaon sees the whole army of the Empire: "This is too easy" Archaon sees a few lizards riding dinos: "Understandable, have a nice day."

[@Xick]

Chaos won End Times because and only because Clan Skryre hit this army with a moon.

[@JacoDeltaco]

@@Xick chaos won because grimfantesy is stupide edgy

[@ldavidtw2000]

@@Xick chaos undivided was not enough, skaven had to bring in GW’s grand-ultimate-plot-armor blessing and blow up something we couldn’t even do in order to beat this

[@이가람-s3w]

Skavens did most of the work. Yes-yes

[@Bluemangrup]

I'm glad to see you're using a staunch line of stegadons. This is very canon and helps with my immersion. 10/10

[@ashina2146]

Those names makes it hard to focus on the doomstack.

[@finaladvance5085]

What were the names?

[@apocolototh1948]

Clearly, norsca needs heroes with mammoth-mount

[@shadowhunter8246]

Do you think one could fit a hellcanon on the back of a mammoth?

[@АрсенийСмирнов-ю8к]

@@shadowhunter8246 even if you couldn't, there is always a mammoth chariot variant.

[@christiandauz3742]

I wonder how OP Norsca would be in Game 3 with its updates?

[@bufan7177]

Is already bad enough Wulfrik has a mammoth and we won’t be seeing him hitting thing with his sword because of that. I want the wulfrik that enrage his enemy by shouting hilarious yo mama insults at them, not some mammoth riding coward.

[@griveouswithhislightsabers3665]

@@bufan7177 just dont give him a mammoth

[@bensoldo4743]

“Thats going to completely miss. IT DOESNT MATTER”

[@rubengildenhuys8962]

I just watched 23 minutes of legend doing his best to keep winds of magic at 0 and failing.

[@ilesalmo7724]

I would like to see this Doomstack in a lab-battle where all the dials etc. are switched against them

[@patrickcunningham3097]

That's my secret, I'm always playing Skaven

[@poolsofbloodinyourstomach]

Nice

[@boot-4704]

To beat this you need the Dwarfs and Nagarythe to ally, with the Dwarfs bringing Organ Guns and Bugman’s Rangers with Crowns of Command, while Nagarythe brings 2 Light Archmages with Shadow-Walkers/Warriors. 2 armies each, with 80 units on the field.

[@aayushpurswani9630]

this is warhammer equivalent of button mashing.

[@andrewhannigan931]

imagine spamming the manticore summons on top of all of that

[@GrandMasterNutBusterYoda]

"Let's see your beastmen do this." I think Legend had a lot of fun with this doomstack.

[@ElCalvazo]

"Let's see you beastmen do this" Laughs in Skarsnik

[@calaranisordo5709]

Honestly I would have rated this army lower, simply due to the difficulty of getting one. I mean skin priests are t4 for capacity so that means he had to have controled 18 capital cities and due to this doomstack other armies have less casters which makes his faction weaker as a whole. It should also be noted that t3 skink chiefs can get the pompous trait as well and so can scar vets. Which means he could have a few skink priests in an army and the rest other heros and achieve almost the same effect without the same effort.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Earlier on, you can definately use more multi-comp armies of Pompous heroes, it's not like the Scar Vet on a Carnasaur, or Skink Chief on a Stegadon (or even one or two on a Terradon) are BAD, but in pure theory, practicality be damned, the Skink Chief is the best possible way to build it. Though, in the time it takes to get 18 Sjink Chiefs, you also probably have 18 Scar Veterens, and probably something like 40 Skink Chiefs, and distributing some of those Priests to the other 3 armies would likely be stronger overall than concentrating them, but that's kinda besides the point.

[@ngythe1king]

If you’re a competent player, playing in Mortal Empires, and played any campaign other than Oxyotl campaign then getting 18 capital cities should not be a problem in the late game. Just Lustria itself has over 8-10 capital cities in ME

[@calaranisordo5709]

@@ngythe1king this is true, however the point is that this army is the best in mortal empires and ease of access is just as important as battle power getting a combination of heros that are almost as powerful as a skink priest halves the time in which you get the army which in my eyes makes it better than the current form which is, let's face it, overkill.

[@ngythe1king]

@@calaranisordo5709 isn’t the point of doom stacks army to be “overkill” like what’s the point of having a weak doom stack army?

[@aleyup8158]

i feel like a full loremaster unbreakable doomstack might have a chance against them, better yet if paired with the knights of tor ival doomstack. but we all know that the ai will never recrui those stacks

[@dai-belizariusz3087]

yeah i wonder how would it fare against knight of tor ival doomstack

[@notarealperson8956]

I dunno, the knights are going to have LD issues and be worse in a clump imo

[@rupiepeterse]

well even while those are great having one of the strongest units in a doomstack that inflicts a -4 leadership penalty is absurd. your units dont have to actually win they just need to do enough for leadership to go under. thats why the norgle stink doomstack is good. the units are crap but the debuf is strong. this is a norgle stink tactic combined with a stegadon doomstack also lord craok could do a lot of damage against the knights and the loremasters dont hold up against stegos

[@SmashingSnow]

Do a custom battle with a friend

[@rockyrock95g90]

It won't be the same as campaign has buffs, custom does not.

[@Nightmare_52]

Zeno really let himself go after discovering earth candies

[@Nightmare_52]

i will have to go with no on that request

[@Nightmare_52]

no gods exist, begone

[@anexistanthuman2435]

yo we found the wild braindead antivaxxer in the wild. this is pretty epic

[@kellerblair2952]

Yes when the old ones created the great Lustrian army I'm sure they thought the little skinks who shoot lightning would be more powerful than a 20ft tall dinosaur.

[@tim9501]

I lose patience trying to get this stack. It's nice to see it work

[@Quark214]

Same, especially if you get unlucky, spent 200 turns trimg to get it

[@Bayonet1809]

Try the Custom Lord Creation mod, it lets you choose traits. You can even pay more to get multiple traits.

[@conorscriv9386]

could we get a strongest possible doom stack in terms of defence and damage output?

[@tamask7749]

If you kill them fast enough you wont need defence no kap

[@Mithguar]

Not likely because of magic alone. This army will have tons winds of magic just from the fact that whole army is full of casters. They have dmg spells and debuffs.

[@Beefonweck]

Defense is probably a Paladin doomstack. They get 20% physical resistance from blessing of the lady, 15% from the guardian aura, and 10% ward save from technology. Add in perfect vigor, high melee defense, a shield, high armor, and you get a complete tank of a unit. With Armory stacking they are pretty much unkillable. Repanse is probably the best choice since she gets a unique tech tree that buffs Paladins more than the other Bretonnian lords.

[@tiagoaun3462]

Damage output? Weapons teams by far. I run 6 ratlings, 4 poison winds (you dont need 4, I just use em for the siege cheese) 1-2 engeneers, 2 warp lightning cannons and fill the rest with doomwheels for crowd control. Last time I struggled with this I was aganist 3 full stacks of wood elves. Also important to note that people like to have 1-2 plague priests, but having a gray seer lord in the army usually is enough for me

[@Totaluser1]

This army is very tanky because of the life magic

[@simongjertz3817]

THE NAME OF THE SKINKS ! lol

[@jerricklittle3306]

@fucku weebsnfuries you're cringe kiddo ;)

[@stephenleggett4243]

A stack that has a degree of versatility to it. With high level hero's, you have points to spare and can put points into multiple mounts, switching before a fight to what mount is most useful.

[@gabrielmelnik6796]

Meh that's a point wasted

[@stephenleggett4243]

@@gabrielmelnik6796 you manage to spec high level hero's without putting points into abilities they will never use? Not that you loose much either way, the stack is just so good it gives room to waist points however you feel, ones it has the basics it needs.

[@bahamut256]

Oh my lord the speed of that magic recovery, lmao.

[@LyubenV]

Dont think you can beat Chaos so easily legend. You're forgetting the unbreakable hellcannons.

[@chapter_brother5437]

'We shall never surrender!'

[@Szkrider]

He can just walk up to it and stomp the midget man to death do

[@guycxz]

Just use manticores to kill them, or snipe them with the regular stegos.

[@ragnerschwarzmane3412]

He can snipe them with the ballistas. And even if not, hell canons are really bad against single entities.

[@stonozka]

@@Szkrider ... in blaze of laser beams from Heaven ...

[@vilifiedgrey4804]

WOHOO!! Hi Legend, it seems you really got hooked by the Warhammer series. :)

[@prabalmishra9528]

When the Lizardmen become lore accurate:

[@dunderklumpen]

The great thing about this doom stack is that if you think you might want regular stegadons sometimes, you can just spend single advancement allow the hero to choose between regular Stegadon and the Ancient Engine of the Gods variant.

[@orilord7392]

My dude really named his Skinks after Dragonball Z characters.

[@tatertot4224]

"Rating the strongest possible doomstack" I wonder what the rate is gonna be lmao

[@pieterschillemans5960]

I'm so early it still says Warhmammer

[@Viryu9]

The weakness of this army is that you'd get it post turn 200, when you're already dominating everything and don't really need it. Realistically, you'll only have only 1 army like that as well. An effective doomstack is also one which can be recruited before turn 100 and on multiple armies.

[@generalharness8266]

10 pompus is telling -40 leadership is a huge debuff.

[@Bimbes_McFly]

Thought I was watching an Okoii video here for a second

[@Muck006]

The acronym for this army needs to be GDI ... Global Defense Initiative ... for the "laser satellite".

[@davidmao6538]

Love this. Ion cannon.... die Nod

[@JerkyMurky]

You know you done fucked up when the other guy brings a bunch of star wars lazer shooting dinosaurs.

[@alialtan8182]

"Let's see if beastmen can do this !" I legit rolfed hard on that

[@NagashLordOfDeath]

I clicked for all the happy skink faces

[@iliasshogenov5929]

We need a doomstack vs doomstack tournament!

[@sevenayashinedown1283]

I imagine this stack might have trouble with AI ungrim rolling dirty with 2 stacks of slayers.

[@cleno780]

Man I planned on doing a stack like this but tbh I just lacked the patience to go through so many heroes. And it's even more beautiful than I imagined

[@petruradu7242]

There are mods to recruit as many heros as you want

[@kevdog6425]

To see you give such high remarks makes me really hyped.

[@user_imyarek]

Jesus, I've tried to beat necrofex colossus spam with skavens on low unit scale, but this... This is on another level

[@andersonneil2293]

The engine of the gods spam was hilarious

[@chillinnn11]

I tried commenting on your livestream comment section, so I just want to say thankyou, I am a fan.

[@fractalco.creative5796]

Hero Doomstacks are the new thing I see. What else can be a dope setup? Malus and Master doomstack on Cold ones, Bloodknight and Wright King Horse raiders, King Louis and Paladin spam,

[@Morgenseier]

Legend: Let's see Beastmen doing this *ZAAAAP* LOL :D

[@dhwwiiexpert]

I love this person’s Dragon Ball theme naming! So fun!

[@bndllama9067]

I found, and this was a few patches back, that the Stegadon's overall performed better than the engines of the gods on the greater game map as there were a lot of cheesy tactics one could employ if they did find themselves in a bad spot. My favorite was one Legend taught me, the old use as much ammo as possible and retreat maneuver. Can't pull that same cheese with the engines of the gods, without slowing speed down anyway, because they have much lower range. That was just my experience. I tried Dread Saurians, engines of the gods, ancient stegadons, saurus scar veterans, and in the end it was the normal Stegadons that carried me to an ME victory, my first on Very Hard. So that's my 2cents.

[@dustrockblues7567]

Believe it or not this can actually get worse.... Itzi-Bitzi (unique starting hero from the Tlaqua faction) has a personality trait that reduces leadership by 5. That's in addition to the -4 from pompous, which he can have simultaneously. And now that we can save and load characters in TWW3....

[@ryomakai]

This doomstack needs DAN DAN Kokoro hikareteku as battle theme.

[@AggressiveLemur]

Was waiting for the select everyone fireball shot.

[@LuigianoMariano]

The Skink Priests used "condemning words"! The enemy army felt really bad and ran away!

[@danielclark1859]

Seeing that many solar beams at once was the most terrifyingly satisfying thing i've ever seen in this game so far

[@OhGodNoNotTheBees]

Did you see the skaven flamethrower doomstack ambush from not too long ago?

[@danielclark1859]

@@OhGodNoNotTheBees Oh yeah I did hahahaha but I had that underlying feeling of "FLAMETHROWER UNITS ARE INEFFICIENT" but that felt really hilarious to watch and entertaining for sure

[@royalmeykash]

I feel like he had a lot of fun trying this doomstack

[@viktor9988]

So, The Great Plan was all about The doomstack. Well played, Lustria. Well played.

[@stevebhuyan7477]

Got damn! He brought all the DBZ chars to battle

[@TheStonedGamer589]

"I'm always playing skaven." Legend. 🤣😂

[@aceykerr8752]

I'd like to see this army face a full legendary order tide. Elves, empire, bretonnia and dwarves, all of it all at once. This would be a really cool test to see just how much nonsense this army could deal with.

[@redwings13400]

This is a stegadon spam army where all the stegodons are also magic, so yeah, this is pretty strong.

[@syrusalder7795]

can you imagine this vs several full armies of skaven slaves, it'd be beautiful

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

That could be a fun way to measure a doomstack. How many units of Skavenslave Slingers can it deal with before routing? 100? 500?

[@syrusalder7795]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 skaven unit enters battlefield, immediately routs because of spooky forest sounds, game declares phyrric victory

[@fauxgoose3384]

It's not only the strongest doomstack, it's also the happiest doomstack. Just look at the smiles on those priests!

[@iunary]

Made one of those. Took 250 turns, bad luck on trait rng. But my god is it amazing, You can also get the swords that give skaven an extra -6 leadership... so they basically start the battle "prerouted"

[@skywalker6119]

Just for the sake of getting enough Pompous heroes together I usually build an army like this with Skink Chiefs filling at least half the army because it's so easy to raise their capacity and farm traits compared to Priests.

[@martinlysy]

He is making rat noises-squeek in video with zero skaven in it, hes transform into rat-skaven is now completed, yes-yes!

[@loanstowalruses]

I think it's possible that a dread incarnate isabella doomstack might be the only thing comparable

[@aidenpons9584]

I think Stegadons - regular, no Engine of the Gods - are fine to keep in this army. The anti-wall and anti-tower capability tremendously helps out in sieges. It also helps in field battles, as they have stupidly good range so you can sit back and shoot them as they come to you. They're also much better against single target anti-large (think Hellpit Abominations), which Skink Priests otherwise struggle with in melee. You definitely want some Engines of the Gods, but I find two enough - any more and I don't get good usage out of their laser beams or their WOM recharge (especially with a stackful of Skink Priests!). Stegadons for everyone else is great.

[@netsquall]

Elves: We have dragons Lizardmen: We have ORBITAL STRIKES

[@artsenor254]

Ok, they've taken this thing to a WHOLE new level.

[@ybubaka]

And because it's Cult of Sotek, this army can aсtually be free w/o any upkeep cost. It's 11/10 in my opinion - just perfection in overpowerness.

[@joygasm1]

stay happy legend of total war and enjoy your video games forever

[@Tallarn_Tactician]

Like you say, outside of player shenanigans its a tough army, maybe bone giants with light wizards could plink it down from range, but not every 5 turns

[@incompetenmedic_4603]

Ah yes. Good old exterminatus

[@dark_side_cookies]

The only things I could see standing up to this are maybe 2 v 1 (at least) Dragon Ogre Shaggoth or Necrofex Colossus spam. Those solar beams wouldn’t do much against single units. Even then, you’re never going to see that in campaign. Even Luminark spam wouldn’t hurt the magic regen much with all the Arcane Conduits, and the Stegadons would just trample any Empire army regardless. This is a truly terrifying stack.

[@Aghertzal]

It would be awesome to see this doomstack fight against Loremasters of Hoeth doomstack. Unbreakable, spellcasters with 105% magic resist and ~100MD. Only downside is that the Loremasters are on foot.

[@michaelterrencefernandezli6688]

But can 4 armies of bloated corpses doomstack defeat this?

[@WhatsleftofTom]

Man i miss warhammer 2

[@nano1166]

why? is wh3 still bad? i thought they fix 70 - 80% of the problems that they had with the game.

[@cesuresesli]

Always a blast to see a pompous stack

[@alexanderjonsson5749]

11:22 It would be fun to see you do it!!

[@JacksonHighlander]

If this was tabletop, I did never unpack my army. Muda muda muda.

[@HelixFlame33]

No Legend, THIS is the only 10/10. All other so called 10/10 must be 9/10 in the face of this.

[@kassy6373]

I love these builds. Good way to push out the boring end game. Loved the conductor stack too but Elves are pricks and dinos are cool so this one wins.

[@MrDeadwinter]

@LegendofTotalWar I would love to see a campaign where you go for the cheesiest, most broken, and most enjoyable playthrough possible.

[@Gilmaru]

They should probably put a cap to those kinds of leadership debuffs.

[@flamehad3630]

The scary thing about this army is, comparing it to something like the white lion Chariot/mage doomstack, how quickly it killed everything. The High Elf doomstack had just as much magic and even more spells but it took it significantly longer to kill the same number of force (roughly I'm rounding a fair bit). This army might take a while to built but unlike most 10/10 doomstack this army spends more time in the loading screens than it does in the battle. I have to agree with legend, I haven't seen another doomstack that works this efficiently.

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

And this was a longer battle for it, with possibly the worst terrain imaginable. In more open battles, Kroak can rout entire chunks of armies by dropping Itza on them, the single Beasts Priest can do the same with Flock of Doom, and the Stegadons will pick off enemies the entire time. The reason there aren't many Engine of the Gods ones is because most of the time, enemies won't even be getting close enough to use it on them, except on maps like this, or Ambushes or something.

[@flamehad3630]

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 God this new information just makes this Army even scarier. You're effectively saying while this Army could have more power, their enemy rarely last long enough for them to use that extra power. Hell of a claim, and with any other army I might think it's false, but this is one hell of an army so I believe you.

[@IsaacCoverstone]

Can someone dig up a video of the first time LOTW started playing the Skaven? The orgasmic noises he must have made in that first campaign.......

[@Joyexer]

KI: Hey guys! We got 5%hp down of some of those Lizards! Legend: *heals KI: ;-;

[@saltefan5925]

Pompous, Dread Incarnate, and Nurgle's Foul Stink are all very good traits to spam. Pompous can't instantly rout enemies, but fight very well, and has a ton of magic. Dread Incarnate is similar, but is slightly weaker due to vampire heroes having weaker mounts. Basically a middle ground between BM and LM doomstacks. Nurgle's Fould Stink instantly routs most armies, but might struggle ever so slightly with strong unbreakable units.

[@SGWeber]

This is why the Lizardmen are the chosen of the Old Ones

[@generalharness8266]

I find crown of command is only useful in one faction. Skaven, put it on your plague priests and unbreakable summons for warp bomb.