Ravi Zacharias Controversy | Does Hypocrisy Negate an Apologetic Message?

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[@seatedwithchrist8268]

As a Christian, this is really heartbreaking for me, but just reminds me to look up to Christ and no one else. Thank you for this video! Well done.

[@apaulotroughtzmantz2914]

I feel the same way. I looked up to Ravi very much and this is a reminder that sin can creep into all our lives so we need to be extra vigilant.

[@tariq_sharif]

Why are you Christian, give your one best reason (the one if it were proven to be incorrect you would abandon your faith).

[@smibjib8671]

@@tariq_sharif you seem like a nice person

[@bronjo9343]

Same, In Christ Alone.

[@susie7336]

I really do believe this is a stern reminder to never glorify anyone other that The Trinity. I do have a lot of respect for Paul Washer, but he is the first to say Christ alone.

[@MarkAndrewRitchie]

I was a classmate of Ravi's. I knew him personally. I interviewed him and filmed him in my home. This was a good and fair analysis of this sad situation. Much sorrow for the victims

[@sweettina2]

So you believe it's true?

[@juliettejohnson3510]

@Lendyll Naicker Good question. Did he Mark?

[@Sam-hv6oc]

Dr Grande, you gained more huge respect from me for your balanced, honest analysis of one of my (now fallen) heroes. THANK YOU for not adding pain to those of us whose hearts were broken that our spiritual leader had feet of clay. Thank you for avoiding snide and snarky comments as many others have given. Ravi is a perfect example of why we are to put our faith in Jesus, not in humans.

[@lulumoon6942]

Agreed.

[@JustDr.S]

No human being is perfect. ❤

[@cindyb8775]

Sam. Well said. My broken hearted sentiments as well...

[@Slampty]

Jesus was human.

[@cindyb8775]

@@Slampty yes, fully man and fully God. Walked the earth as us. Suffered as we suffer

[@easttowest5984]

As a Christian, I appreciate this thoughtful analysis. I want to make very clear that the Christian faith is completely against and doesn’t condone any behavior like this. Thank you for separating these incidents from the ultimate message of the faith and beliefs most Christians believe in and practice.

[@havest2]

im pretty sure dr grande is a christian so not surprising he would do that. he's coming from his own beliefs, not being logical about the situation

[@easttowest5984]

@@havest2 I found it to be unbiased and logical. Speculation on one’s beliefs or lack of unless already expressed is rather presumptuous in my opinion. So also is assuming that even if someone is Christian, would automatically validate this behavior.

[@thebrax27]

Agreed. Great analysis presented.

[@havest2]

@@easttowest5984 its not presumptuous he has crucifixes hanging on his wall. but apparently that makes me so odd to wonder? and it's not presumptuous for me to think the bible condones sexually violent behavior, because it does. lol The only "presumption" i appear to have made is that you read the book you claim to believe in while you ran under a bunch of your own presumptions thru assuming i had no evidence to back up my statements and also that i have never read the bible myself.

[@easttowest5984]

@@havest2 also presumptuous to assume someone hasn’t read the Bible who has since being a child all the way through to being an adult and taking Theology and religious studies 😉 I’m not going back and forth with you. I made a comment on a video and I stand by that. Sorry if that is upsets you.

[@karlynichelle5514]

Thank you for your thoughtfulness in making this video, Dr. Grande. Those of us who admired his views and truly believe in Jesus Christ have been horrified at the abuse he inflicted on these women, apparently for years. Anyone who calls themselves a Christian should not defend what he did.

[@evelynwaugh4053]

Power and money often corrupt. My apologist reading stopped with C.S. Lewis, and I am not an evangelical, so I wasn't aware of this fellow. There are wolves in every faith's fold.

[@lulumoon6942]

@@evelynwaugh4053 Truth.

[@seatedwithchrist8268]

Agree!!

[@annehooper2151]

@@evelynwaugh4053 A very good apologist is Josh McDowell--very smart, and not arrogant or manipulative--has written several books and I have read his biography--as an abused child he searched the Scripture when grown, to prove it was a lie--and believed--also forgiving his abusive father and developing a relationship with his Dad before his death and leading him to believe also. Josh McDowell is worth reading.

[@vals74]

@@evelynwaugh4053 - I believe that anyone in ministry is more vulnerable to attack by the enemy of our souls.

[@PangloriousFam]

It is sad how much damage a man's sins can do to his work. Thank you for your clear and direct handling of this topic, Dr. Grande. Looking forward to more videos in the future.

[@ladymopar2024]

I was looking for this comment I agree

[@nthompson2474]

I agree.

[@butterflybeatles]

What sin did Ravi Z commit? Nobody seems to know. And don't tell me that opening a spa is a sin.

[@lazzy2012]

Billy Graham said: “Preachers are like airplanes. You only here about them when they crash.”

[@erikparent8176]

Good one!

[@lillianbradley3483]

No, not much is said about David Wilkerson or Angus Buchan.

[@bethn9615]

Uhhh not really I’ve heard good things about Ravi for years. The silence from the evangelical community is only deafening when their religious leaders “fall” aka sexually harass women.

[@Jessica-iq6kj]

@@lillianbradley3483 what happened with David Wilkerson? I liked his ministry.

[@availanila]

@@bethn9615 as someone who knew about his fall and not even one of his fans kinda speaks wonders of how they haven't kept silent.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Your dry humor is funnier to me than most professional comedians.

[@Subeffulgent]

I totally agree 👍

[@SujaaniPrem]

He jokes on methods of thinking as if its the right choice making it more absurd, but his pitch is smart, on the moment.

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Yesss indeed

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Life is tough I know God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change...

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Lol, one of the few things in my life I’ve really been struggling to accept. Thank you for this comment. I needed to know I wasn’t the only one hurting for the blinds. I think I’m ready now to accept as well.

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[@raerae2589]

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[@fandude7]

As an admirer of Ravi's work (not his behavior), it's truly tragic. Good analysis of the situation. May the victims find justice and healing from the evil that has been done to them.

[@billybob-vy4sw]

Were u ok with his islamophobic remarks?

[@LumbridgeTeleport]

@@billybob-vy4swyes of course, many people are hurt/ worse by Islam

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in a pale peach shirt like this.

[@Ali-kb8gr]

Lol

[@mrsapplez2007]

Haha. I've missed your comments. I'm back on track

[@BigZebraCom]

@@Ali-kb8gr :)

[@BigZebraCom]

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[@BigZebraCom]

@@lesliecas2695 I used to have a shirt just like this one! I wore it out! I could have used 10!

[@CoffeeLover-mz7bk]

And Ravi Zacharias bragged about never being in a car with a woman or alone in an office with a woman. He knew what to say and when to say it. Very manipulative.

[@fruhbisspattv5259]

If you have 2 women at one time in your car or office, it´s technically okay to brag, you would never be alone with a woman.

[@painteroflove]

Yah, it adds something negative. Better to simply keep one's mouth shut rather than to compound the wrongdoing by proactively lying. He doth protest too much.

[@brendakauffman2222]

Predatory and very much like behavior a narcissist, psychopath or sociopath would have.

[@florianstumpf4349]

@@fruhbisspattv5259 ein Schwachsinnsargument perfekt ausgehebelt, sehr gut! 😃👌

[@fruhbisspattv5259]

@@florianstumpf4349 Haha, Danke Dir!

[@Shelf_Improvement]

I really appreciate Dr. Grande's fair-minded approach. I'm glad that his ministry investigated and admitted to the harm he had done. He clearly had a problem and instead of admitting it he abused his power to victimize people, and as a result has probably shaken some people's faith.

[@lazzy2012]

The gospel doesn’t rise or fall on Ravi. The “Best” of men, are just men at best

[@deemariedubois4916]

Amen.

[@jullietowner2226]

Amen

[@lazzy2012]

@@kr50401 from Jesus... people, although well intended aren’t perfect. That doesn’t excuse immoral behavior, but if God shows Grace why can we? This is the very reason we look to Jesus, not to man... first problem, of our age is making “celebrities” out of people, because at the end of the day no one is without sin, so should we throw the baby out with the bath water?

[@lazzy2012]

@@kr50401 how come you’re an ex believer? (I’m asking seriously btw)

[@Pablo-gl9dj]

Ravi thought he was the best. He was not fake but was a giant fraud

[@theprotector1234567]

Can we get a psychological analysis of Pat Robertson?

[@greentooth3097]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

good call!

[@lelleithmurray235]

WOAH! Now that would be interesting!

[@lillianbradley3483]

That's like analyzing dry toast.

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

@@lillianbradley3483 and only toasted on one side (and burnt)

[@factenter6787]

About 10 years ago I attended a talk by Zacharias on a university campus in my home town. The audience was impressed with his brilliant apologetics and philosophy. What a tragic disappointment he turned out to be. Eloquence need not be conflated with piety. There was a very well spoken man in my church who was invited by the pastor to give sermons. He preached brilliantly. Just one slight problem: he was incesting two of his children. He was exposed, banished from the church, and his wife divorced him, got full custody of their 5 kids, and took possession of their homestead and business. He wound up losing everyone and everything of value to him.

[@DonaldSeymourjr]

Doc you killed this analyst! Kudos and respect, it was very balanced.

[@rayross997]

I like to be called Dr. Ray having earned my PhD as a teen, I was a Post Hole Digger.

[@yasuke9317]

I call myself "Esquire' cause it sounds cool.

[@frenstcht]

Can do, Dr. Ray.

[@elainearchibald9020]

lol Dr. Ross

[@deemariedubois4916]

Dr Ray it is!

[@JustDr.S]

Sup, Dr. Ross?

[@exoticbarbie1000]

This is very unfortunate my grandmother loved him and his teachings. I’m praying for the victims involved.

[@polarbearsrus6980]

They follow the man with a message and that's not the same as following God or Jesus. That's the mistake innocent people like your grandmother make, sad.

[@lillianbradley3483]

I loved him too. I still do. Someone's failings shouldn't change our love for them. Disappointed, oh yes. Stop loving him, no

[@polarbearsrus6980]

@@lillianbradley3483 I have a hard time loving a person who uses gullible people. You'll do what you feel comfortable with; that was my opinion. Take care.

[@icturner23]

Belief in gibberish like prayer is what led people to trust this guy.

[@icturner23]

@@lillianbradley3483 No, you definitely shouldn’t love sexual abusers.

[@janakakumara3836]

As the President of the Honorary Doctorate Recipients Association of America (HyDRA), I find it deeply offensive. We have many distinguished members - Dr. Evil, Dr. Strange, Dr Who. etc. It is time for "real" doctorates to stop pissing on us and get back to writing those grant proposals.

[@mrooz9065]

Official killer comment of this vid.

[@stevegallant3395]

Does Dr. Seuss have the proper credentials?

[@catchtwenty22]

Ha! You got me for a second

[@--Skip--]

Good one!

[@santinosamuel5301]

Given his level of intellect (only) ,he has surpassed mere paper that many PhD holders possess.

[@dontbeapharisee9486]

Hi Dr. Grande, I was just waiting every day since this news about Ravi came to the airwaves to get your expert analysis. It was finally done today and was so precise and self explanatory. He knew what he was teaching is right. However, he violated it knowingly. Thanks for your analysis.

[@nathansmith6365]

Again...we see the obvious relationship between religion and narcissism....and of course....abuse.

[@patsmith9284]

Using a position of power to engage in inappropriate behavior is disgusting. He is far from the only one in the ministry that has engaged in this behavior. He has seared his conscience .

[@juditharsenault2131]

It was criminal behavior and his ministry covered up for him.

[@yes0r787]

The plant grouping looks good and happy today. Dr.Grande, maybe it's a tall order but would you please share some suggestions on how Americans can reduce hostility among differing political groups and encourage understanding and sympathy? Life is short, we are wasting time arguing, we can do better.

[@rayross997]

Excellent request!

[@natalielawyerchick]

I like this

[@megalopolis2015]

We start by respecting the people we disagree with, even if we greatly dislike their views.

[@ladymopar2024]

Yes plz

[@lynnv8501]

I have friends who don't agree with my politics. Sometimes we agree, sometimes not. Recently I felt disrespected because one of my dearest friends unloaded on me, without giving me the chance to respond. I don't know what to do. I'm flabbergasted.

[@lnc-to4ku]

"....the answer can be found if one can figure out the difference between ten times zero and a million times zero." 😂 Loved that one!

[@lindsey4178]

This situation was heart breaking to a lot of Christians. Ravi was not one of the teachers I particularly looked up to but I HAVE listened to a lot of his material and appreciated his views. As a Christian myself, I tried to be gracious when the first allegations started to come out (this was BEFORE the evidence of everything came out). We all have things we struggle with and we can't expect teachers to be any different. But once the report was released showing that he wasn't just sleeping around but actually ABUSED and took advantage of these women, I was shocked. This mans material, no matter how much he contributed to Christianity, should be erased and I don't understand the people who are still defending him. I can understand the disappointment and confusion of those who came to Christianity bc of his teachings but this is just too much. The most disgusting part of this (from a Christian point of view) was the fact that he manipulated these women with their faith and actually PRAYED with them, thanking God for the opportunity to abuse them. Horrible, awful man. I can't wait for the Christian community to put Ravi Zacharias behind us and move forward with teachers who reflect the lifestyle we teach.

[@incrediblystupid8483]

Outwardly he behaved like and praised Jesus. Secretly he denied Jesus by his actions all the way to the grave and was more like 'his father' then his brother Jesus. Dont worry about Christ sheep, they know His voice and will not follow a stranger!

[@JMM33RanMA]

This kind of behavior is fairly common among Evangelical preachers like Bakker, Copeland, White and others who appear to be in the ministry for power over others, and, of course, the money and other gratifications. The Protestant Reformation came about to oppose the corruption of Christianity they saw being perpetrated by the Roman Church. However when looking at the corruption of the Evangelical ministry we can see that Protestantism has followed the same path of worldly corruption that they once condemned. One of the main abominations seen by Martin Luther was the sale of salvation [indulgences], and that is exactly what many Evangelical pastors are doing, offering salvation for money and a princely lifestyle.

[@eanovak8429]

Bravo! Bravo! These devils must be stopped, and the communities must stop letting them hide and carry on. I tossed the one book of his in my bookcase into the recycle bin, I don't want it resold at Goodwill. Men like him, make all Christians look bad.

[@Lisared023]

@@james8816 I didnt find his message as "feel good" or fluff.

[@plipogamez3173]

Chillax, do you want to pretend Ravi's lectures no longer exists? Christianity is about facing troubles and dealing with them. The man was flawed, as are we all. Stop virture signalling, deal with the realities of life.

[@DoctorAkke]

I really liked him but I can no longer use any of his quotes and I feel like throwing away his books. I might be drastic but this is something hard for me to process or forgive, at least for now.

[@natashamudford4011]

Mike Winger did a video about this subject, and threw away 3 or 4 books on camera. I don't have any of his books, but recall that I enjoyed the few talks that I had heard. Don't know any quotes. I feel bad for his fans/followers, organization, family, and especially his wife. I pray that all who have been hurt by this reveal will be strong enough in their faith to continue in true faith, and not fall away. Prophecy indicates a great falling away will happen... perhaps this is part of it.

[@catherinepositano8544]

I know exactly how you feel..I also went a long way to hear him preach...the whole election 'thing' in the U.S. has had me seriously look into the Televangelists...and I'm HORRIFIED by the whole lot of them...we should have a Global Bonfire of all their products!

[@SujaaniPrem]

Don't put the books away, there is talent, like Michel Jackson might have or not pass through bad things, but his music remains a gift. This woman were in part, part, it would not have moved so far if they had given it to be a part of his request. Once again, there is no problem with being very sexual, I don't think he obligated on his privacy, surely he was odd. Id rather pay a working woman on the field and not confuse things as they are, specially having an image towards anything to the public.

[@catherinepositano8544]

@@SujaaniPrem there's a problem when he's a minister...

[@JMM33RanMA]

@@natashamudford4011 The falling away has already happened, just look at Bakker, Copeland, White and the pastors who have replaced God with Mammon and Jesus with Trump. Is there any further that they can fall?

[@Adara007]

Thank you for a balanced analysis, Dr. Grande. As an INTJ who grew up in a rather religious family Zacharias was a name that was heard often. I remember when the allegations that he claimed to have have been a Professor at Oxford came out and I did a bit of research and was disgusted to learn of his abuse of women. Hopefully the evangelical community can learn from this, avoid putting people on pedestals and help the survivors of abuse instead of being in denial that any abuse occurred.

[@drjcw]

Ravi was a professor, and he did speak at Oxford, so he was an "Oxford professor. "😀

[@moinmoin4366]

@@drjcw agree, he professed to be a Christian

[@Jeb9221]

I'm really torn. I wish to say that the fact he engaged in habitual, grievous sin didn't mean his messages were wrong. Yet I know there are victims out there enduring the consequences. What's most disturbing was the predatory nature of his actions. They seemed premeditated 😞

[@winnieloh4279]

Reminds me of King David except for the part that King David was a man after God’s heart, had repented and suffered the consequences of his sins throughout his life into old age.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

I respectfully feel that honorary doctorates are generally recognition of significant impact in some area of culture but still spit my coffee at Dr. Grande’s joke. Thanks a lot.

[@fruhbisspattv5259]

The sad thing is, honorary doctorates are also given to the biggest donors of the Universitys.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

@@fruhbisspattv5259 Shopping for doctorates, eh? I am curious which august institutions engage in this. There should be a list of shame.

[@fruhbisspattv5259]

@@jamesjacocks6221 Problem is, it´s so hard to prove. They can always say, it´s because the person is culturally significant and has a lot of merits, But think about the fact, that very many rich people have several honorary doctorates. Very many.

[@jamesjacocks6221]

Unfortunately one can not argue using such ineffable statistics. Many people with rich academic careers are successful. I am hoping that someone will question the value of an Honorary Doctorate of Divinity. The best sounding part is the first, some seem to claim to be the second. To these tired agnostic eyes there is a lot of flim-flam associated with revivalist Christianity in general. I have lived through two Christian Revival movements and both were largely spelunking. @@fruhbisspattv5259​

[@fruhbisspattv5259]

@@jamesjacocks6221 I posted a websitelink to (it sounds extremely odd) some kind of an online-shop which sells honorary doctorates, but I think, youtube censored my post. It vanished into thin air. So please, put the words " buy honorary doctorates" into Google. It´s such a shame. On this earth everything that´s got some kind of worth will eventually be sold by someone.

[@henrymadadabariju4094]

I still love and respect Zacharias... He saved my life via his messages at a very difficult situation I was in 2011... His character might have been dented but his work and ministry is still intact for our generation and generations to come... I love you Ravi, continue to rest in peace.... Lots of love from me here in Nigeria, Africa

[@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED]

Henry, his character was not dented it was chronic and profound in its deception

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I’ve never met/listened to someone with such dry humor, the way Dr. Grande exhibits with these often grim topics. I giggle every time 😄. I find it so unique. Idk just love it!

[@evelynwaugh4053]

Is there a semester in middle school, and then again in early high school on the psychology of sexual coercion? Whether the abuser is the Weinsteins and Epsteins of the world, or the more common factory, restaurant, office supervisor or professor, sexual exploitation is going to be encountered by most young women, and even by some young men. Being able to see it clearly might be preventative.

[@briore3856]

That fire fighter analogy, tho? Burn!! I’ll show myself out.

[@Ron4885]

lol, Brianna :)

[@BucketHeadianHagg]

omg, that was such a cute and funny comment! You made me laugh so hard already , and it's only 5:45 in the morning! Hahaha! Thank you for starting my day out right! Hugs from Las Vegas!

[@tinkerchristoferson7672]

🤣🤣🤣

[@sam314]

Lmao...

[@gracie.arnold]

sadly .. we hear of these 'goings on' after he has passed. all i can tell you is that for decades i was deluded and on the wrong path, after the death of a friend that meant the world to me but was an angry man and i missed the oppotunity to witness to him, i was scattered.. my soul was in danger and my heart was bled dry... i clicked through radio stations and one of the channels had ravi's teachings on the air daily. i took great comfort in hearing his teachings. i cant blame another human for thierr fleshly sins because my past would have had him roll over in his grave.. I still love him. im sorry he had this struggle

[@barfymann362]

"I'm definitely diagnosing and speculating about what I'd like to happen in a situation like this" - Dr. Phil

[@Jessica-iq6kj]

😆

[@sharonbielski2792]

My heart is breaking 💔 😢 😪 when anyone falls from teachings of God. It's between him and God now.

[@oliviagreen7423]

Today's shirt is Muuaah! Uplifting spring pastel😍 And I'm not sure what shade to call it (peach?apricot?) but it's very complimentary to your skin tone😊

[@alimar0604]

Olivia, I have been a keen observer of Dr Grande's shirt collection and while I like the peach, I lean more towards the pink and pale blue. I am now also following his plant collection 🇬🇧

[@oliviagreen7423]

@@alimar0604 He heard you👂 Today's Meghan McCain vid features a pale blue shirt😀👏

[@hikerlarrypackgoaterrobins8575]

In my mind, his misdeeds does not invalidate his message. He was a great thinker and a great apologist. That having been said, it has been incredibly disappointing to have these allegations come forth and apparently be true. Those of us who loved and honored him are extremely hurt that he would fall prey to these behaviors that are so bloody common to man. Billy Graham still stands out for his insistence that he always be accompanied by another man, in order to provide both protection and accountability.

[@meverly4133]

I liked your perspective on his followers and how they can reconcile their faith in his message with the bad deeds he did. Reminds me of the Nietzche quote: “There is a false saying: “How can someone who can’t save himself save others?” Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?”

[@TwoBassholesandaKaren7107]

I also have difficulty with the “No true Scotsman” argument toexplain away wrong doing by a member of a group. Good call to say one can believe and be “fallen”.

[@JuxJacy]

Predators are drawn to the church. Think about it....it is a group of people who believe things on faith instead of logic. That makes them highly gullible. Christians have deference to authority and are trained not to question things, that doubt is evil. This is fertile ground for predators. They know they are likely to get away with it. That's why so many church leaders are like this.

[@lillianbradley3483]

@@JuxJacy He wasn't a predator drawn to the church. Predators look for a type and Ravi certainly did though it breaks my heart to say so. I loved Ravi. I hope he cleaned up his accounts before he left this world.

[@TwoBassholesandaKaren7107]

@@JuxJacy I agree predators are drawn to people of faith. They sniff out vulnerability. So with that said I stand behind the logic of “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Buyer Be Aware that there are plenty of predators in logical atheistic circles as well. They go for any vulnerability they can exploit. Logical individuals are not immune. Christianity has a long philosophical, logical tradition as well. They aren’t all evangelical fundamentalists. So having faith is t necessarily a vulnerable trait to exploit. It can be. Predators should be the ones we focus on and why they predate versus being vulnerable. In fact, not being vulnerable tends to be a sign of psychopathic behavior. Being vulnerable is a human trait necessary for empathy and compassion. Predators exploit vulnerability.

[@JuxJacy]

@@TwoBassholesandaKaren7107 "Christianity has a long philosophical logical tradition as well". No it doesn't. The exact opposite actually. Really fucked up that you equate not being a gullible rube to being a psychopath. You can absolutely have empathy and compassion without blindly believing any bullshit someone spews at you. I am not sure how you say you have to be a sucker in order to be a good person with a straight face. Also no. You don't find these sorts as often in atheists circles. Not at all. They are predominantly in religious circles. Sorry that's just a fact.

[@JuxJacy]

@@lillianbradley3483 Wtf does that mean? You hope he asked for forgiveness so he was absolved and is in heaven now? REALLY? You are HOPING the victims didn't get any justice in the afterlife. I don't understand people like you.

[@BigZebraCom]

Just a reminder I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating what could be happening in a massage parlor like this.

[@alimar0604]

🤣🤣🤣🇬🇧

[@BigZebraCom]

@@alimar0604 Hey! thanks for the emotes! :)

[@jackiehubert]

As someone who supports a lot of post-evangelical people my heart goes out to the multitude of people who grew up with the teachings and abuses of this section of evangelicalism ❤️

[@bby31]

Great video! I just found your channel, I love that you don’t speak over eccentrically. So many youtubers these days over emphasize their speech and speak in such highs and lows, forced character in their voices. All this to say-you have a great speaking voice.

[@kjlcr]

Thank you for addressing this subject. I am a Christian and it was a heartbreaking revelation. You spoke in a kind manner concerning a horrible situation. How true it is for Christians to keep our eyes on Christ the author and perfecter of our faith. Not people. He did inappropriate and sinful acts . He knew right from wrong. In representing himself as a Christian he was a hypocrite. Yet, Christ remains the Way the Truth and the Light. We the messengers are flawed and need to keep focused on Him. Thank you for the sensitive way you addressed today's topic. I always learn something.

[@h-lorolltide92]

I'm begging, PLEASE do an analysis of the Christopher Porco case!!! I would love to hear your thoughts, particularly how his Mother defended him. It's such a bizarre case!

[@BurroGirl]

Wow the last 2 sentences of this analysis were so on point and important. Thank you!

[@FrancesShear]

Dr. Grande where do you get all of that intellectual energy from when coming up with so many case studies in only one day? Will I ever get to meet them?

[@walterhoughton8734]

Thank you! You pretty much covered what my problem with all those casting stones. He may not have walked the talk ... but how does that negate his message? If he condoned his behavior, rather hide it .... Yes, I would agree. But how many so called Christians say one thing but do the other. You nailed it. Thank you.

[@cookedgooseinfl4597]

Thanks for this cogent dissection of this tragic case. The truth of the gospel is not changed but it is a horrific abuse.

[@threehappycampersvlog3988]

Honestly doc, I was shocked after reading the title, I jumped in and straight right away watched this video. I am fan of Ravi. He resonates Christian values, bright, apologetic and very critical. My Christian belief had not shattered after hearing this. We are human, we sin, I pray for Ravi’s soul. Whatever could have happened before his death. Could he ever by any chance ask for forgiveness? God bless his soul.

[@michelefizer2774]

Hello Dr Grande!! Can't wait to watch. 🤩

[@namelessentity5851]

Can I still claim to be "the Doctor of Desire" sans an actual diploma?

[@DonDraperism]

As a Catholic I always admired Ravi Zacharias and encouraged friends to listen to him. I thought his arguments for theism and the Christian faith were very good. I once saw him speak in person. However, being Catholic and knowing what our church has gone through I knew this happens more times than not. I feel terrible and pray for the women who were just trying to make a living. They are victims of a man who at the least committed sexual misconduct and who was obviously a fraud, living a double life.

[@bethluther3950]

Thank you for your respectful treatment of this situation. Over the past years I’ve appreciated his logical approach in apologetics. He never was one who lifted on verse out of the Bible and built an entire faith system on it. You could follow his logic with truth. It may be a human characteristic to elevate teachers/leaders into positions where they think they are ‘more special’ than they are - maybe it has been that way ever since humans lived in community with each other. All I know is that now that I am 77 yrs old, I can clearly see that it happens over & over again - in many areas of life. But spiritual leaders stand out the most because people expect them to be perfect ..... and they are not perfect. This has been heartbreaking in so many ways. I admire the way this ministry has handle it so far . Many years ago I heard a very wise man warn people who are choosing a name for their new ministries: Never name a ministry after yourself!!!!! Again, thank you Dr.Grande for not being a ‘basher’. I sense so much truth in your analysis.

[@ericcrain2864]

Can you do an examination of The My Pillow Guy please Dr. Grande? Epic shirt btw

[@SujaaniPrem]

I think he did, did he? It was a man who had a company of pillows and supported Trump, is it the same guy?

[@ericcrain2864]

Yes he did. My bad. Thanks for the correction.

[@Jessica-iq6kj]

Lol yes! My grandmother bought a my pillow and it hurt her neck so bad after a week of using it she had to go to the doctor. Then she told my husband that he could have it, and he raved about it until a few weeks later he started having major neck pain.

[@justice3043]

As usual well done Doctor Grande

[@leahnjokik.1450]

Am still trying to process this a year on. Like you said being his fan this puts me o such a precarious position. But am happy to know that this does not necessarily negate his message. Thank you for your explanation 🙏

[@user-gq6lk6re2h]

“False prophet, wolf in sheep’s clothing”

[@lillianbradley3483]

No, just someone who deluded themselves into error.

[@waikikime2281]

These are the words of Christ, not mine. Come to your own conclusions who the Lord is speaking of: Matt. 7:22-23.

[@Rose-ez2fm]

He deluded the masses too. A false prophet indeed.

[@lillianbradley3483]

@@Rose-ez2fm He's not a false prophet. He's just a sinner.

[@vals74]

@@lillianbradley3483 - he is guilty of both. Especially since he was preaching. “.....For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required.” -Luke 12:48

[@bronjo9343]

I liked that title. hypocrisy doesn't negate a fact, or a logical argument. this title cuts thorough "bias" and flawed thinking

[@icturner23]

Ravi Zacharias didn’t have a logical argument, though.

[@bronjo9343]

@@icturner23 maybe you're right but regardless, the worldview he represented had enough of them. :)

[@hurdygurdyman1905]

@@icturner23 I'll take the bait. Go for it and explain what you mean.

[@Wildflower95694]

Sometimes the topics aren't ones I am familiar with, but I still get so excited to see your posts. The voice of clarity and levity are so gratefully received.

[@ryangilchrist6071]

He had a doctorate punch card. The tenth honorary doctorate gets you one for realsies doctorate.

[@sarahalbers5555]

A doctorate in the science of Scam-o-rama!!!

[@mryee5540]

I struggle with my daily sinful thoughts and he's here with 200 women on rotation 🤦

[@DrumWild]

This does not sound very healthy. They've got your brain and emotions tied into knots. Sin is a religious construct that does not exist.

[@lasura]

@@DrumWild Well said!

[@anjachan]

@@DrumWild true !!!

[@raycarnis9540]

Do you think he had one of these ticket machines?

[@easttowest5984]

Stay strong Louis, take it to God. We all struggle.

[@secerts711]

As a Christian I was Leary to listen to this because I did have respect for him before this scandal and was very surprised and hurt by what he did to those women, his family and the ministry. However since I tune in almost daily I know you give insightful commentary and so I watched. I was not disappointed. You handled this subject matter fairly and balanced and helped me in trying to figure out even more how something so sad and completely terrible such as this could happen. Thanks Dr. G

[@DonaldSeymourjr]

As a Christian, one thing that I have learned is to be transparent with a brother in Christ about my struggles. And also, not to judge. This analyst was truly a blessing.

[@ay613]

That's good I'm a believer too.

[@DonaldSeymourjr]

@@ay613 that's what up!

[@SavingHearts]

Thank you for this analysis. I like Ravi and appreciate the respectful way you discussed what may have happened. This has been devastating to the people who admired him and who changed their lives partly using his influence as a catalyst. I enjoy your channel very much! Thank you.

[@derekdietze]

Please provide an analysis of Dr. Todd Grande and his apparent obsession with not diagnosing anyone.

[@--Skip--]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cindyb8775]

Thank you Dr. Grande. I was a devout believer in Ravi. I have really struggled with how he could do this and truly believe and not confess it. You have brought me a great measure of comfort and understanding. Thank you Thank you Thank you. It has really troubled me.

[@BeachsideHank]

"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." -Susan B. Anthony

[@cheriann6461]

Fascinating. I'd never heard of this man, but the conversations surrounding this video are quite interesting.

[@billhildebrand5053]

Where have you been ¿

[@adrianamaclennan7832]

Thank you for speaking on this!! I was crushed when I kind out about Ravi. It’s just so sad

[@davidmenke7552]

I really enjoyed this one, doc! And just a friendly reminder that it would be awesome if you did some more clinical role play videos!

[@regenia8738]

I agree. I learned a lot from those as well.

[@loulabelle5082]

Yes, please do. As a mental health nurse (specialising in drug induced psychosis and drug rehabilitation) I believe these would be helpful and informative to those already in the mental health care profession and for those who want to access these services. Plus, anything that normalises mental health and decreases the stigma of it is always beneficial.

[@405OKCShiningOn]

It's ok don't feel bad. I was misled too. I followed rzim for a while in my teens and 20s but stopped after I found the environment to be toxic. I'm sorry to have learned it. Thank you Dr Grande

[@winstonl.sayson4456]

Thank you for providing a rational and reasoned response to this horrible scandal. This scandal is a body blow to the body of Christ. This is a wake-up call for Christians to reaffirm that our faith rests in Jesus, not on humans.

[@MyelinProductions]

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” St. John 14 Amen

[@FrankBenlin]

If anyone ever wonders about Dr. Grandes (alias Dr. Big) qualifications, go to his channel and dig deep back six years through huge bank of videos and prepare to be amazed. He is very modest about his experience and knowledge.

[@oscarmaidana9294]

You could your said it.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

I think so too.

[@--Skip--]

Which is refreshing!

[@billhildebrand5053]

Also, his birthday is Feb. anyone know exact date ¿.

[@rejaneoliveira5019]

@@billhildebrand5053 Feb 15th

[@whatevawhateva8684]

😂Dr. Grande, the way you keep a straight face making these jokes without cackling up is what even cracks me up 😂. You are good at throwing a few laughs in there. Thanks for these videos, I enjoy them all

[@ebonyx800]

You're conclusion was spot on. Thank you for the clarity.

[@63Fortunate]

Excellent analysis Dr. Grande. By their fruits you should know them states the holy Bible. He was not a Christian.

[@eanovak8429]

Phony charlatan is all he was.

[@jonnylumberjack6223]

if you think everyone who calls themselves a Christian lives by Jesus's teachings, all the time, you are sadly mistaken. In fact, is that not the whole point of Jesus - human beings "sin" all the time, and he came to die so we could all be forgiven? And who are you to judge, I thought only God was allowed to do that?

[@eanovak8429]

@@jonnylumberjack6223 Forgiveness is the charlatan's get-out-of-jail-free card. A super sinner pretending to be a "man of God" makes the sin a thousand times worse.

[@BurroGirl]

I was raised Catholic. I don't participate in organized religion any longer, but regardless of my own beliefs or lack thereof, if there was one thing that bothered me ever since I was very young, it's Christians passing judgment on or expelling "sinners" from any Christian church. That is completely contradictory to Jesus' teachings.

[@BurroGirl]

@@jonnylumberjack6223 THANK YOU!!!!

[@CastawayHikes]

Dr. Grande, are you a believer? Your coverage of prosperity gospel charlatans and now Ravi has stoked my curiosity. Either way, I love your channel and your perspective

[@kuyajeff6552]

Same here, I am a believer, and the way Dr. Grande is sympathetic to us folks in the pews while excoriating the wolves in sheeps’ clothing is heartwarming and tragic at the same time.

[@gaton6116]

I've been expecting this

[@MrJohnverkerk]

The best yet from Dr. Grande. Beautifully done.

[@kevinhornbuckle]

Do people in this category qualify as victims: massage therapists who give a massage that includes sexual favors and accept extra pay for it and keep it a secret over a long period of time so that their customer will return for more massages?

[@painteroflove]

I think some people did come forth but were not believed. I have to admit that you make a good point about anyone who agreed to a return visit. Did that happen with anyone? It's hard to make judgments when we don't really know the circumstances.

[@stevedriscoll2539]

Oh, don't ask those kind of questions...get you in big trouble 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jongodsey8472]

Dr. Grande, can you do a video on nouthetic counseling? I found a website of former seminar students that said they were required to do it and made it seem like Christianity was borrowing from Scientology's auditing therapy. Apparently, someone at their seminary committed suicide under the treatment and they now require people to sign legal documents saying they will not sue the university if they are damaged mentally due to the sessions. They are also disciplined if they go to regular therapy. The whole thing seems shady

[@evelynwaugh4053]

That would be very interesting. I can see how a seminary would have an interest/stake in their students' suitability, fitness and calling, but psuedoscience and unqualified counsel is scary.

[@rumbashane]

You are the only person who hit my deepest concerns and questions I had about Ravi and his message . I have yet to hear any Christian and Christian leader acknowledge and answer what you did at the 9:15 mark. Thank you! You have no idea how much that helped me.

[@schrodinger6429]

Hypocrisy and truth are two separate entities. Even if I'm a smoker and advised others not to smoke may seem hypocritical; still, doesn't change the fact that smoking is bad for one's health and good enough reason to quit.

[@pearlskis9741]

I listen to Ravi's sermons occasionally even after he died and hearing all this about him I still can't process how could he. But besides that it just doesn't feel right that more people talk about this. Cause his sermons are so good and people wont listen to them anymore.

[@jdr9419]

Six doctoral degrees? Hilarious! He must be beyond thinking himself something special.

[@user-gq6lk6re2h]

Narcassist

[@raerae2589]

You forgot pathological liar.

[@lillianbradley3483]

He was brilliant.

[@brotherandrew3393]

Dr. Grande, your comparison with a criminal cop is spot on. From a Christian standpoint it is exactly the same. We know what is requiered but we sometimes find "reasons" to not obey God which is always a bad choice. That does not mean that we can not share true divine truth. There have always been such "carnal" Christians. That is why Paul is warning us to live after the flesh. RZ already stood or stands before God, his Judge. Therefore we don't have to try to judge RZ. And let us not forgive that all of us is in need to be saved by grace through faith until we make our last breath.

[@autumnedwards4448]

I love your analogies Dr Grande! Your breakdown of a topic never fails to intrigue me. Please keep up the awesome work!☺💙💙

[@mremboblog]

Please analyse John Maccarthur. There is too much smoke around him!

[@karenrobargemacon68]

I second that suggestion!!!

[@LDiamondz]

By this reasoning, I'm an Olympic swimmer! (I swam in an Olympic sized pool many times) 😆 Very good balance of logic and faith, Dr. Grande! Thanks. 😗

[@billhildebrand5053]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/epayqH-HmqySjqM. At 1:11 to 2:15 he (Ravi) speaking to the parliament at Bucharest says “ we always know how to define truth when we are the victim of a lie....when we are victimized by a lie, you know exactly what the truth is: when you are the instrument of untruth, you do not know what truth is...”. At 27:25. To end. :32 he talks about receiving another doctorate.....wow...

[@dahna4822]

The “Honorary Doctorate” Comments😂🤣😅 LOVE IT!!!

[@judithlewis8079]

You are so kind. I am a Christian, also, but I have not found a Church which I can comfortably attend. There are other reasons, of course, but I admire your kind objectivity. Bless you.

[@ckierdal]

Very entertaining and insightful channel. Consider covering the disappearance of Emma Fillipoff; not many may know her story outside of Canada.

[@SujaaniPrem]

I have asked him on the private of his Patreon, he is looking on the case he said. I was his room matte on the shelter, she was never acting crazy moving the furniture. Her mother Shelly knows from other woman living in there, she is just very discreet but it got out of handed in the media. Also she was never around homeless, etc... I think is normal to be distress on the days she was put on the streets from the Shelter and maybe she was simply afraid moving to more afraid, for a reason.

[@ckierdal]

@@SujaaniPrem Thanks for your input. Though I've read that quite a few staff and residents had witnessed odd behaviour and paranoia, and she'd stayed there quite a bit before her disappearance. Isn't it possible the furniture incident occurred when you weren't around?

[@SujaaniPrem]

@@ckierdal She was being stalked from Ontario, she left her job in Victoria because of Julien. She never went many times to the Shelter was only two months. Being afraid is not being odd, being pushed by the Shelter and triggering her is another with the Stalker. An educated lady is not used to that. Even if she had money in the bank, she would have like to move on and safe. Fear does not make people think well with poor choices. She was very kind and respectful. People saying she had mental illness because she was watching the stars, or pushing dried leafs with her feet joyfully for liking nature, now that's odd. Instead of looking for Julien and why is she stalked. Sorry, I'm the person who was next to her trying to get her the emergency bed and the Staff put her hold to chit chat on their office. I asked to please give her attention that was becoming more and more vulnerable. In a situation like, a rapid change in 5 days... My main concern is that they have let free the stalker and reason, by covering their bad behaviour in the Shelter. Also the police can't look into darkness, Canadian police is not as the American Police who are more determine and not nicely agreeable. But of course they are not used to have those cases, their society has no crimes of those types as to follow an investigation.

[@ckierdal]

​@@SujaaniPrem I hadn't heard an account this close to the incident before. I must admit that I leaned towards it being a psychotic episode, though I'm not qualified to judge, and it doesn't look like anyone who could do so had a chance to either. I'm left with so many questions; I suppose that's what makes it such a captivating case. I hope she turns up to answer them some day. I'll disagree with you on Canadian police being pushovers: at least in Ontario where I live, investigators are held in high esteem around the world, being pioneers in quite a few areas.

[@StarlahMutiny]

By the reasoning in this, Im a firefighter now! 🤣

[@mrsapplez2007]

The day I come back to watching yt and THIS JOY is what comes up. Brilliant

[@ianyoung5116]

This issue has been weighing on me heavily over the past couple of weeks. I listened to Ravi at times and looked up to him. I feel so much for his family that he deceived. A lot is being said by many commentators and it must hurt them - your analysis was fair, measured and separated the man from what he claimed to believe. I was surprised and glad to hear your take on it. Respect

[@hhhhhhhh6008]

Can you do Martin Bryant (port Arthur)

[@catwhitt]

The plants on top look happy. I feel zen looking at them. Maybe give the plant on the bottom a buddy. This story is about what happens when you take religion to another level until it is no longer about Jesus and God and more about the pastor or minister. Followers are then following the minister and not God.

[@christendenise220]

I really like Dr Grandes videos, he sheds light on issues and topics I never knew existed. Like I knew a little bit about an issue, then Dr Grande blows the details wide open, love it....

[@ryanguzek361]

Always a worthwhile video