Burning LiPO Batteries • IMPORTANT LESSONS LEARNED • Do LiPO Bags Actually Work?

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@William_NS
@William_NS Жыл бұрын
Every single person in any part of the greater RC hobby needs to watch this video! Thanks for this video, guys! Well done!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree. Thank you.
@glenncain
@glenncain Жыл бұрын
thanks for rcvr team for running this experiment, one which a good number of people have yet to have an experience with a lipo reaction and probably have no idea what a reaction looks like
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple of lipo fires, but this taught me quite a bit.
@asul996
@asul996 Жыл бұрын
The bags performed better than I thought. Fire only happens when Oxygen is introduced by opening the bag. Good job guys, I leaned a lot. Thanks
@cflin4637
@cflin4637 Жыл бұрын
The problem with lipo fires is the reaction supplies it's own oxygen. That's why you can't just smoother it. Like they said in the video, you need something to break the reaction..
@owen.user123
@owen.user123 Ай бұрын
@@cflin4637 is it the same with lithium?
@WillyFPV
@WillyFPV Жыл бұрын
Thanks boys. I treat them with respect. For sure! Thanks for the sacrifices!! Im buying me a lipo bag for my filing cabinet.
@djsolstice8964
@djsolstice8964 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I, like many others have that smaller Lipo pouch bag. Good to see it tested. This gave me some Ideas based on what I saw here: 1) Keep a smoke alarm IN the bag, you'd hear it if your in another room...which let's face it us what most people do. 2) Store less batteries per Lipo bag, have multiple bags with only 1 or 2 batteries in there. 3) Make note of total cell in your bag. If you know there is a 6s and a 3s in there. Count the pops off ass the burn up. If you haven't counted to 9, wait. 4) Would a sacrificial non-pressurised container of non-flamable expanding foam in the bag help. Idea: it breaks out of it's container from the heat of a broken cells, then quickly fills the bag volume with foam, thus reducing oxygen volume in the bag = more time to act and get that bag outside away from valuables.
@robflyrc
@robflyrc Жыл бұрын
21:15 Smoke is intelligent form of life. Whenever you have barbecue, camp fire or lipo burn, it will find you. 🙂
@davidpaker626
@davidpaker626 Жыл бұрын
You know it.😂
@GlobalSourcing
@GlobalSourcing Жыл бұрын
I would love to see these on top of something flammable like carpet or wood to understand if these would be hot enough to burn material through the bag
@nindieboy4194
@nindieboy4194 5 ай бұрын
@@GlobalSourcing I don't know if it's like that, but I imagine that there is some kind of buffer to the ground so it won't get hot to burn the ground where it's standing. But I don't know.
@Deses
@Deses 3 ай бұрын
You would have to be very dumb to store a bag full of batteries on a flammable surface. Bag goes on a concrete or metal surface.
@TheGoodShepherdsSheep
@TheGoodShepherdsSheep Жыл бұрын
This gives me much more confidence in my lipo bags. Thanks guys 👌
@DaDuTchMan2357
@DaDuTchMan2357 17 күн бұрын
I'm late to the party. But I wanted to show my daughter the seriousness behind lipo batteries. She just started flying heli's (high spirited 18 yr old😊). And she has learned ALOT...from this video. I read in the comments someone mentioned everyone needs to watch this video in the RC hobby. And he's 100% correct and I hope it shows upon search. Best video I've found and appreciate the time you guys have taken to educate us. You're making a difference, thank you!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 17 күн бұрын
Glad to hear the video is helpful, that's what it's all about!
@manuelsolano7525
@manuelsolano7525 Жыл бұрын
Nice job guys. I usually store my batteries in an ammo case
@dannyherbert4482
@dannyherbert4482 Жыл бұрын
I've just watched a video of a Lipo fire in an ammo case, you should probably get a Lipo bag unless you want your ammo tin spitting flames 2 foot in the air like a flame thrower
@DATDUDEJT09
@DATDUDEJT09 6 ай бұрын
@@dannyherbert4482 🥴😵‍💫😮😧
@thingsyoudidntknow1745
@thingsyoudidntknow1745 Ай бұрын
Does this work for lithium ion or just lipo
@Mr89Falcon
@Mr89Falcon Жыл бұрын
Just purchased one of these bags on Amazon and was wondering the same thing…do these bags perform as promised? Thank you so much for this important “community service experiment!” I feel much better about my purchase now👍🏼
@jimross898
@jimross898 Жыл бұрын
I ran a similar experiment with similar results. While not perfect, the lipo bags are a worthy investment that buy you time. Also thought of something else. How many of use bring a fire extinguisher when we fly? Another worthy investment. Shitty to lose a battery or plane but worse to light the surrounding area on fire.
@DannyFPV04
@DannyFPV04 Жыл бұрын
Getting a bag right now!!! I’ve got a few older batteries and I’m convinced these work!! Great video man.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I ordered a replacement for the bag I destroyed in the video.
@DannyFPV04
@DannyFPV04 Жыл бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews good review and great realism of how the bags react. They seem strong!!
@motovick
@motovick 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, I put mine in individual pouches inside the bigger bag to avoid a chain reaction. Your experiment reassured me that it should be relatively safe.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 5 ай бұрын
Even more protection--doesn't hurt. Good plan.
@mtb4maine
@mtb4maine 3 ай бұрын
Good idea, I use those “Bat Box’s”. I should probably have lipos in individual bags inside.
@calmarcalmar
@calmarcalmar Жыл бұрын
9:50 why .. at 3.8volt they won't burn? or hardly? 20:00 IF they would catch real fire, maybe they would burn all together quickly, but since it's only smoking?
@davidpaker626
@davidpaker626 Жыл бұрын
Hello, how are you? They will burn at 3.8 V per cell. Just the fire will be smaller and shorter. Because there is less energy stored in the packs that it would be if they were fully charged at 4.2 volts per cell. No fire is a good fire, but definitely a smaller fire is better than a big one.😂 Plus good maintenance and handling of the batteries such as not overcharging ,over discharging, overtasking the batteries and maintain them at storage voltage and balance just makes for a healthier battery, not very likely to just burst in flames all by itself.
@jlarson42
@jlarson42 Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration. Very important information. I have three of the box style lipo bag. I always store my lipos at storage voltage in those bags. And I don't charge unattended. 🤓
@tomedwards1359
@tomedwards1359 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I learned that even if one cell goes it does not mean all will go. Regards from New Zealand
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I was very surprised at this outcome. Thanks for the comment.
@Moonknight_FPV
@Moonknight_FPV 9 ай бұрын
must watch thing , thanks guys for all this effore , a like is not enough .. i give full it full credit
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@TravisMCP
@TravisMCP Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. What I have done is put each battery in it's own single fireproof bag and then put those into a bigger zip bag like you have. I wonder how they would do. Also interested in what a charge fire (while it is over charging) looks like. But this is super helpful!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I'm going to do a v2 video with some of the more common requests. Thanks for taking the time to leave a suggestion.
@MrDocdoc89
@MrDocdoc89 11 ай бұрын
I put 3 in a bag and then 3 bags in an ammo box.
@dylanbuckner152
@dylanbuckner152 Ай бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews by chance do you have a timeline of when? Thank you for the information
@farmerjohn2262
@farmerjohn2262 3 ай бұрын
Do they make Lipo bags that will hold a Tesla? 😂
@pedellbills130
@pedellbills130 13 күн бұрын
@@farmerjohn2262 that’s funny!!!
@martinwhitaker5096
@martinwhitaker5096 5 ай бұрын
Another useful test world have been to surround the bag with something flammable, e.g. straw. After all, the objective of these bags is to prevent the fire spreading.
@slackerinmotion
@slackerinmotion Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your demonstration. If you must put out or contain a lipo fire whether as a result of puncturing or overcharging, what is the best way (personal experience or published results) to do so? Pouring sand over? Submerging in water? Covering it with a bucket? Other?
@Patient-9
@Patient-9 5 ай бұрын
If it happens, it will burn too hot to really put out, but it will only react for a short time. You mentioned covering with a bucket, yes, that will help protect items that are close and help smother remaining flames after the reaction. (metal bucket, not plastic). Basically, protect whatever you can, but when they go, you can't stop them. Keep the batteries and charge areas isolated as much as possible. Create a mental plan, know how to react, and don't panic. I keep a cheap mini BBQ grill with lid right where it needs to be. A cheap little grill is the best money you'll ever spend, if it is needed!
@pjpankratz8829
@pjpankratz8829 Жыл бұрын
Great test and showing that these bags do help and increase the safety factor.
@brianreardon7700
@brianreardon7700 9 ай бұрын
Big time!
@marcandreasson87
@marcandreasson87 3 ай бұрын
great video guys, I am getting back into RC after 40 years away. I've bought all the bits for my boat. I haven't purchased any batteries or charger yet. I am all spooked out now. I have purchase lips bags and will now buy a metal container to put lipo bags in. I am reading all the do and don'ts with lipo usage and safety. The lipo bag did burn as you said because you introduced oxygen. When its was still zipped up it did its job and gave you enough time to make the next safety move.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 3 ай бұрын
Don't be spooked. 4.2 max charge (4.15 for longevity) 3.8 storage (don't ignore this) 1-1.5c charge rate only (5c is abusive) 3.6v/c - stop flying 3.3v/c - stop flying right this instant
@LucasSouza-ky2ld
@LucasSouza-ky2ld Ай бұрын
I'm looking for heat/fire and water protection for batteries, from in and out, that will be partially outside, thank you for making this video, very helpful!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Ай бұрын
Lots of people like ammo cans. I would probably want to provide some kind of ventilation for those though.
@hankweiser9859
@hankweiser9859 5 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that you did this video. I have battery bags and was very curious to see good testing on them. Great job. Good content.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ThoaiNguyen-b9g
@ThoaiNguyen-b9g Жыл бұрын
could you test with full discharged batteries. Is this safe when battery has no energy.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I am planning a v2 of this video. So keep an eye out on the channel.
@KOFPV
@KOFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Great test. I've always assumed that the fire would become uncontrollable with multiple batteries. It's good to know the bags work.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@i9.4Mee
@i9.4Mee 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show this guys!
@shadowviper957
@shadowviper957 9 ай бұрын
Any ideas on where or how to dispose? My local shop doesn't dispose them anymore.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 ай бұрын
Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWq2qGuIpb57ra8
@thomaswalton9089
@thomaswalton9089 9 ай бұрын
I just received some bags and was wondering the same thing lol thanks for the test
@andrewscott4712
@andrewscott4712 3 ай бұрын
Excellent video. I have a 10.4Ah lithium ion battery for a wheelchair which I'll be taking on an aeroplane and it was so good to see how well these bags help contain a damaged battery making it a bit of a no-brainer decision to get one. I appreciate it's a different tech but is it reasonable to assume that Lipo and Li-ion batteries behave similarly when damaged ie the bag will operate as effectively with a LI-ion battery? Perhaps airlines already use them but the effectiveness suggests that their use should be mandatory on flights.
@Rekmeyata
@Rekmeyata 9 ай бұрын
Interesting test, BUT, if that bag was set on top of carpeting, would the bag have gotten hot enough to melt and ignite the carpeting, thus burning down a house?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 ай бұрын
Since we didn't test it on carpet inside a house I have no way to answer that question based on observable fact. If had to guess, I'd say no. The bag wasn't hot enough to initiate a fire on nearby combustible sources.
@RyanEssonYoung
@RyanEssonYoung 6 ай бұрын
I would be curious to see the difference between a 4.2V/cell and a storage voltage battery.
@crow7291
@crow7291 2 ай бұрын
What i took from this is to keep your batteries in separate bags, that way they can't set off other batteries. Might seam over kill but its better than losing all your batteries or you home or car.
@dr.razorx
@dr.razorx 6 ай бұрын
Now i am more confident on my lipo bags 11:06 we can see fire. Thanks for the video
@f2f.photography
@f2f.photography 11 ай бұрын
This is a must watch!!!! Thank you so much.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 11 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@paulmeynell8866
@paulmeynell8866 Жыл бұрын
The one thing I wanted to see ,was did the outside of the bag get hot enough to set fire to things on my desk? Paperwork , plastic items do the walls of the bag insulate as they are supposed to? Brilliant video thanks
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
We're going to do a v2 video. Keep an eye on the channel.
@IceBergGeo
@IceBergGeo 21 сағат бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews did you ever create that v2? I can't find it if you did.
@chickwithstick7695
@chickwithstick7695 Жыл бұрын
I literally just opened that exact lipo bag today... Guess i'm about to find out if I need to return it
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I think you'll be happy with it.
@shadyhazza
@shadyhazza Жыл бұрын
A test I'd like to see is if they stabilize inside the bag - i.e. leave it for 24 hours closed - does it ignite when you open it?
@stormorc2057
@stormorc2057 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for tested these! Very Helpful.
@Joneszee1969
@Joneszee1969 Жыл бұрын
That was a great video, I always wondered how those bags would react. I also keep my batteries in a ammo box, curious how that would react in this scenario. Thanks again for the video.
@js32257
@js32257 Жыл бұрын
You should make sure the ammo box is vented somehow. You don't want to build a lipo bomb.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Joneszee1969
@Joneszee1969 Жыл бұрын
@@js32257 yes, I always leave the top unlocked and cracked open a little…
@TheLostSquadron
@TheLostSquadron Жыл бұрын
@@Joneszee1969There is probably a gasket in the lid you can remove. It's to waterproof them for ammo, but will leave an air gap if you pull it. I'm using about 4 of these to store batteries, but fortunately have never had them tested. I'd like to see the results, too!
@dingalarm
@dingalarm Жыл бұрын
I would also surround the batteries with sand-filled ziplock bags, to assist with extinguishing any fires.
@brianchambers1515
@brianchambers1515 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to say the material that is around the zipper is what was on fire and on the first bag ignited when oxygen was introduced I think a lot of times when we get the fire right off the bat I think multiple cells erupt at once excellent video guys I shed a couple tears 🥲when I seen Good batteries being used but it was for the best👍🏻🤠
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was for safety education. So worth it.
@PaekSukis
@PaekSukis Жыл бұрын
Man. I dont think that bag would work. But this test shows that it does. Thanks for the video!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Ditto. I thought a lipo fire would cut through these bags quick.
@PaekSukis
@PaekSukis Жыл бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews or is it because battery technology has improved? 🤔 Less fire, more smoke
@ChainsawFPV
@ChainsawFPV Жыл бұрын
I like my old ammo cans to keep my lipos in. the "exploding" part, is 99% because the charger malfunctions, causing overcharge of the cells. When overcharged, they are explosive.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 Жыл бұрын
They are also explosive depending on who we’ll they are built. How tightly the pouch is sealed and how strong it is. I’ve seen tests where the cells to pop and make a bang. But most people who say “LiPo explosion” really are talking about round cells like are in e-bikes and computers. Those almost always make a loud pop. Just the nature of their design.
@mappsbux621
@mappsbux621 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sacrificing batteries for our benefit! It looked like the larger bag’s zipper is what burned, not the bag. Is that what you saw? Thank you.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
The teeth on the zipper survived. The zipper material separated from the bag. The fire probably burned the thread allowing the two materials part.
@terriireland7251
@terriireland7251 25 күн бұрын
Can you put fires out with a fire blanket?
@pedellbills130
@pedellbills130 13 күн бұрын
GREAT VIDEO GUYS!!!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 13 күн бұрын
Appreciate the support!
@ronaldcobbs5260
@ronaldcobbs5260 Жыл бұрын
I use both of those bags. Excellent experiment. Thanks
@BBFPV
@BBFPV Жыл бұрын
Now i want to overcharge a lipo under water, what will happen?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmmmm
@stevejobson3399
@stevejobson3399 Жыл бұрын
I think this video will save so much damage and very likely save lives. Cheers lads.
@xrotor7813
@xrotor7813 4 ай бұрын
I wanted to thank you for doing this test. I would say there are a lot of people charging lipos on pine or ply shelves, wood work benches, etc.. Do you think that these surfaces might ignite. I was thinking it was too bad you did not chuck a board under the bag at the same time. I use a shelf made of drywall to give some extra fire resistance. I wonder if I should switch to concrete backer board for even more fire resistance.
@Retset
@Retset Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for taking the risks for our education. I only charge outside, apart from the little 1S for indoor whoop flying which are charged in my office in a tin.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad to help.
@lev_on_heli
@lev_on_heli 5 ай бұрын
Ha, I have the small bag from your video, I'm glad it does its job! Thank you very much for the test!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@roberttelfer3150
@roberttelfer3150 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, I have always kept my lipo's in these type of bags. Nice to know that they contain the burning flames 👍
@EagleFPV43
@EagleFPV43 4 ай бұрын
Great informative video. I just wanna know, were the batteries fully or storage charged? Sorry if it was mentioned
@pureheroin9902
@pureheroin9902 3 ай бұрын
Fully charged
@MountaineerFPV
@MountaineerFPV 10 ай бұрын
Double bagged and in 50cal ammo cans, that is how i roll for my FPV Batteries. Although i have never seen or heard of one blowing just sitting in storage. Awesome test. 👍👍🇺🇸
@malcolmeccles3783
@malcolmeccles3783 3 ай бұрын
So if this happens in your house, is it best to leave it alone or try and cover in sand?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 3 ай бұрын
If it happened inside a house I would do whatever I had to do to get it outside the house.
@andreaspap
@andreaspap Жыл бұрын
i admire your courage to be there with so much bad smell. Thanks for the video it's good educational video
@raffman4266
@raffman4266 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vlog!! This is one of the best !!
@eddymut
@eddymut 8 ай бұрын
I have ten small 1s batteries. I think this bag will cope with them if something happens
@lexicase8805
@lexicase8805 Жыл бұрын
I keep my lipos in a steel ammo can from the military surplus store. They're dirt cheap, and if they keep ammo safe im sure they can contain a few lipos
@cyberess1000
@cyberess1000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks this an excellent video, I wondered just how well the Lipo bags work, really good is the answer.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
They surprised me--that's for sure.
@ShoddyRC
@ShoddyRC 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. The price of burning all those batteries probably add up quick!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 ай бұрын
Those batteries did cost $$, but we burned batteries that had been taken out of flight service due to age/puffiness etc... You're welcome for the video...
@jumpstartfpv
@jumpstartfpv Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Sharing this with my flying buddies.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bcc1955
@bcc1955 10 ай бұрын
Makes me add trying to think about reducing smoke damage. Have seen box that has smoke filter.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 10 ай бұрын
Probably a good idea because the fumes are dangerous and it stinks.
@Leonards_life
@Leonards_life Жыл бұрын
Just FYI, my first battery for the Phantom, was dropped and hit a rock. It most definitely did pop open like an explosion...not super loud but exploded open into one very big fire!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Yikes!
@shadowviper957
@shadowviper957 9 ай бұрын
I use bags inside a metal ammo box. That would've been a good addition as well as I've heard the ammo boxes are really good as well
@raztaz826
@raztaz826 Жыл бұрын
I've seen people recommend a metal ammo box. I'd like to see somebody test that with the lid open a crack, vs with holes drilled, vs unmodified and sealed shut except for minimal holes for charging wires.
@AchronTimeless
@AchronTimeless Жыл бұрын
I saw a "test" from some company trying to sell their safe box showing the ammo cans would just explode, but they intentionally didn't modify the cans. The trick to keeping them safe is apparently to remove the rubber gasket allowing pressure to vent but not much airflow. I'll dig around and see if I can find the videos again but I think they might have been removed by now.
@raztaz826
@raztaz826 Жыл бұрын
@@AchronTimeless Neat. That's what I've been told elsewhere about ammo boxes, but I've never seen it tested.
@AchronTimeless
@AchronTimeless Жыл бұрын
@@raztaz826 I tried pasting a link but the spam filter must've blocked it, youtube is notoriously bad about letting you link to things in comments. The video title is "How to store LiPo battery safely - In depth LiPo fire tests" and includes an ammo box left open, closed with no seal, closed with seal, and with a bag of sand on top of an open can as an attempt to auto-smother the fire.
@raztaz826
@raztaz826 Жыл бұрын
@@AchronTimelessthanks!
@FrogHopper23
@FrogHopper23 Жыл бұрын
Hi I'm new to fpv. I have a question. I have a charger that put the batteries into storage voltage. After they are in storage voltage and I unplug them from the charger how long will they stay in storage voltage before I have to do it again?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I don't have the patience in my life to run that test. In other words--for a very very long time.
@OZSCQUADS
@OZSCQUADS Жыл бұрын
very nice.. I store batteries in ammo boxes.. I wonder how they would go.. one even has a breather hole..
@falcosparverius1
@falcosparverius1 9 ай бұрын
The bag is pretty impressive, it stops the chain reaction when the bag is closed and the oxygen is used up.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is impressive tech to contain that much energy.
@GunsNGloryShow
@GunsNGloryShow 4 күн бұрын
Now do the same thing with ammo cans, and other things that modelers commonly use to store batteries. Excellent video. Subscribed.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 4 күн бұрын
We are planning a round 2 of this video featuring a few different containers and fire inducing tactics.
@GunsNGloryShow
@GunsNGloryShow 4 күн бұрын
@@RCVideoReviews Cool! I'm new to the hobby and the channel and I like waht I see. Except the FAA which has no place here and these little IED's we use for batteries. I'd like to see something safer.
@MrDLRu
@MrDLRu Жыл бұрын
I always figured with these that it would give me time to toss the bag out of the house or car..They do work.
@bill72pa
@bill72pa 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for burning money and destroying your patio. Seriously, very much appreciated!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews 6 ай бұрын
No worries!
@johnrickard8512
@johnrickard8512 3 ай бұрын
I have personal experience with this phenomenon with an E-Bike project I had some time back. One of the batteries got shorted to ground and exploded, but none of the other batteries, including the one DIRECTLY ON TOP, so much as flinched throughout the whole ordeal. Not at the time, nor in continued service 🤷
@wingsounds13
@wingsounds13 Жыл бұрын
I Did learn something today. (Oh, wait... that's a different channel. 😁) I too expected a quicker chain reaction. Seeing an unburned pack right next to a burned one was a surprise.
@Z_question
@Z_question 6 күн бұрын
It's all about what chemistry Lithium cells you have. LiPo those bags will work fine for but if you have NMC, Li-NMC, LNMC, or NCM those are very violent that bag would not of contained the fire and the runaway is just as fast. I would recommend shielding if you want to pop one of those.
@brianreardon7700
@brianreardon7700 7 ай бұрын
I know it’s a ton of money but invested in an 800wh lithium sleeve from a company named cell block.. they market products for companies like ups fire departments defense ect huge lithium batteries.. I also have one of the boxes.. again it all depends on how much want to spend is it worth it.
@michaelfuchs1467
@michaelfuchs1467 Жыл бұрын
I use empty .50 cal. ammo-cans with installed overpressure release valves to store (and charge) my Li-Po packs. I either place these boxes on a concrete floor or on bricks, to prevent heat transfer to a combustible surface.
@cameronstolhand7149
@cameronstolhand7149 2 ай бұрын
I would think an ammo box would work even better and they cost about the same, however I wonder if a battery caught on fire in a sealed ammo case if it would make the case explode? Venting the case by drilling holes in it would fix this problem.
@GonzoFishingIreland
@GonzoFishingIreland Ай бұрын
I think with ebike batteries, there are far more cells and usually encase in a metal casing, which when the gases build up inside the casing could cause an actual explosion?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Ай бұрын
I don't think I would want these in an airtight metal box.
@andrewkosenko2757
@andrewkosenko2757 Ай бұрын
Please note that lipo battery fires are not in need of oxygen for burning, i.e. it doesn’t matter how much oxygen they have, the fire rate depends on the battery charge state (i.e. is it 60% charged or 100% charged). The battery has everything it needs to catch fire, but under normal circumstances those things do not mix, thus do not catch fire. It you mix it up (by puncturing the battery and allowing chemicals to mix, or by overcharging it, thus there will be no place for electrons to stay and they will try to break through in every direction, and as the break through the separator between the chemicals - fire starts). I didn’t want to delve into too much detail, so there it is, the simple explanation ;) putting sand or water is not about suffocating it, it’s to decrease the temperature, sand melts at pretty high temperature and is good for heat dissipation.
@capcata
@capcata 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Next test idea: Put flamable material next to the bag to simulate an incident inside a car.
@nypilot83
@nypilot83 Жыл бұрын
Great demonstration!!
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@arielcercado2864
@arielcercado2864 Жыл бұрын
Could have added a test putting a stack of newspaper on the bottom and let's see if the heat is also insulated or dampened enough that there is no secondary fires generated outside of the bag.
@garretpickens5745
@garretpickens5745 Жыл бұрын
A lot of newer batteries use a different chemical make up in lipos that produce more smoke than fire and I have noticed that fully charged or used around 3.6v a cell they still will burn almost the same if they go up but yes a fully charged batt is less stable sitting around.
@pmcasella
@pmcasella Жыл бұрын
good video on Batt safety, if your cheap, i see, you can still use the battery connectors Tx30 ect,.
@Tom-wl9sx
@Tom-wl9sx Жыл бұрын
Great video. Your tutorials, especially open tx and Edge tx have helped me alot. Keep on with the good work 🙂
@FPVJesus
@FPVJesus Жыл бұрын
John friend’s commentary is priceless.
@lambertodgr8
@lambertodgr8 Жыл бұрын
I had one caught fire while charging I immediately dropped it into a bucket of water . Fire went out in about. 5 seconds left it in there for 3 hours then dug a hole and buried it. I emailed local council for information on disposal . They replied that they had no information and told me to contact the manufacturer
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Ocne they're burned out/fully discharged, they're inert. You can recycle what you can and toss the rubbish.
@johnd9357
@johnd9357 Жыл бұрын
@@hayloft3834the bucket likely just cooled the battery fast enough to stop the reaction. With EVs there’s just too much thermal mass there for that to happen.
@kimkeam2094
@kimkeam2094 Жыл бұрын
After watching a couple of videos about putting out a lithium battery fire, it has been the introduction of salt, allowing the battery to discharge faster and reduce the resultant fire. The water/ salt cool the batteries and shorts them as well. That would be an interesting test. What do you think?
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
It doesn't sound practical to keep enough salt handy in all situations to rely on it. Frankly, if you're concerned about it, use a metal can.
@kimkeam2094
@kimkeam2094 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the response but I didn’t want you to think that it was a negative comment. What I was saying that I had read a report that suggested a bag of salt crystals is kept at the base of the container. If water is introduced to cool / reduce the heat, the salt mixes with it to render the cells inert quickly. I only asked your opinion, nothing else. Have a good day.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was a negative comment, just impractical.
@chrishard7616
@chrishard7616 3 ай бұрын
I didn’t read it as a negative comment
@Zamicol
@Zamicol Ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words!
@FlyMIfYouGotM
@FlyMIfYouGotM Жыл бұрын
They burn better and much hotter if you set them off by severely overcharging.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
We considered the fact overcharging would require a purposeful misuse of a charger where a puncture could be unintentional. That said, we intend on a v2 video where we'll put the overcharge to the test as well.
@nsarboc
@nsarboc 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this!
@sRoGoRs
@sRoGoRs Жыл бұрын
I had a battery burn my quad and the whole battery looked toast, it turned out one cell and I had the best 5 cell battery ever, after that. It's still good and strong.
@Jasonoid
@Jasonoid Жыл бұрын
From someone who has experienced a lithium runaway event with a 16 cell fridge pack having metal encased cylindrical cells, they have a much louder "boom" and actually explode and send fire balls all over the place. You have to run and duck for over!
@JakeBullit123
@JakeBullit123 Жыл бұрын
Hope your lungs are OK after being downwind of those poisonous gases.Good test,and reminder.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
I'm still standing. Won't be the worst thing I've inhaled.
@DGriffiths-c5u
@DGriffiths-c5u Жыл бұрын
Nice to know. Thanks.
@RCVideoReviews
@RCVideoReviews Жыл бұрын
Sure thing.
@ItAintMeBabe99
@ItAintMeBabe99 7 ай бұрын
Wow, that must have been expensive !
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